Snap On is like fine dining with good silver. "Sporks" will get the job done, but it's just not the same. Ps. I think the word you were looking for is 'snug'. I used male/female analogy in a boardroom discussion and it turns out the medical director was gay...Apparently 'Married' is the new political correct term for fitting one in the other. Not pulling your leg. They could tap me over with a feather. World is run by pansies brother.
@@MiguelMartinez-hm1hg And I’ll add who the hell cares. I’ll say whatever I please. I’m not responsible for other peoples “feelings”. 2023 is a total dumpster fire PC speaking. If the word is in the Webster dictionary it’s perfectly acceptable in my eyes.
I never thought snap on sockets were superior to any other sockets. Until I had a stuck 11mm bolt. My milwaukee wouldn't take it off and was almost about to round it. then I threw my buddies Snap-on 11mm semi deep and it loosened with ease. made me a believer I now have about 1500 dollars invested in snap on sockets
I tend to agree to a point. Although since switching to Sunex for all my impact stuff(MATCO rebrands these) I’ll say I can’t tell the difference. If the bolt is that bad I use specialty sockets anyways. Different topic but I always thought my Snap On flank drive wrenches were the cats meow…. Well I was wrong, another American tool company Wright tools makes a weight grip 2.0 that makes the flank drive look like a turd in comparison. Hate to say it. And I own a ton of Snap on and love the stuff. Just goes to show not everything a company makes is great. My new favorite for non impact sockets is KOKEN Japan. Best quality I’ve found!
I'm thinking about replacing all my Taiwanese sockets with Williams USA, still undecided tho... being I don't use them professionally, yet... would like to tho eventually so im trying to think ahead.
If I could start over I’d just buy mostly all KOKEN sockets and ratchets. They are simply the best you can get. The Japanese are masters at their craft (Kaizen)🇯🇵👍🏻.
I just became a diesel technician apprentice and am slowly building up my tool set. Right now I have a smaller box that’s full of cheaper stuff like harbor freight, sunex, gearwrench, and husky. I only get 15 an hour so it hurts my wallet to try and get snap on stuff but I work with my dad and he was 100% of snap on stuff and I love them so much
Take a look at the Williams Tools sockets if you want Snap-On. They’re made on the exact same machines as the Snap-On and they have a lifetime warranty. Same steel, same broaching, the only difference is the name and the price.
@ecleveland1 also the cat branded sockets are Snap-on. Alot of the CAT branded tools are the exact same as Snap-on! They are a lot cheaper and also have the lifetime warranty!!
What I find amazing is how many "Bash & Beat me up" over spending so much $$$ for Snap On and MAC, I also own some MATCO and Cornwell. Yet the other techs always seem to want to borrow my sockets, specialty wrenches, etc. I won't change other people's opinion of HF tools, just as they won't get me to change my opinion.
im a Snap-on nut. jackets hats bbq grill/fridge mugs etc. i do have a bit of tools but alot not. 41 years mechanic. in 2 years im checking out of it for wood working (hopefully) great video. JDTVCO sent me to ya!!! Be safe everyone out there
You pointed out one of my frustrations at times... there is no consistency between what it means to be shallow, mid or deep. This is because I generally buy a set and end up filling in sizes from other brands as needed. However, on the functionality side, I see an advantage if you are buying a lot of tools to have multiple stages of lengths. You could really get a shallow, mid-shallow, mid, shallow-deep and deep, really giving you options should you need them.
The shallow chamfer on the Snap On and Mac sockets also adds strength and mass to the sockets. Mass doesn't mean much to the chrome sockets but it does to the impact sockets. Also the extra length of the Snap On sockets adds further mass. These little details add up to better sockets.
When actually measuring the demensions with my calipers on the fastener opening of sockets I have found Koken to be the most consistent by far. On a six point socket, when I measure from one flat to the other, most sockets vary by .002 - .004 It's not a big deal, but Koken sockets vary by maybe .001 They also have a tighter fit to the fastener than most sockets. Even with the regular line of Koken sockets. The z-series Koken sockets are even tighter to the fastener, but I have actually ran onto problems with the z-series being to tight of a fit.
Hi my awesome brother CP, this is a great review and comparison. I've have noticed the same with different brands of sockets to though out the years. I think it's great that you are showing the viewers that there is a big difference in some brand names. Pro vs less expensive sockets. Thank you sir. 😎
I buy Williams USA sockets. Same broaching, same fitment,, exact same socket as snap on pretty much just 1/3 the price. I also like proto and Wright as well. One place you should always spend money on quality is wrenches. Sk isn't bad they just remind me of usa made craftsman. I prefer Williams over sk sockets. I like mac and snap on ratchets.
@@gtcam723 it is, you cant tell the difference between the 2. the snap on have a little better chrome finish but nothing crazy. another thing the snap on have ever so slightly better finish work as in around the base the rings are beveled more. stamping for size is different. thats about the extent of it though. it isnt anything that is going to warrant you overpaying for a socket set thats for sure. none of my williams are rusty etc. they are still mint just the same. they dont fit nuts or bolts any different than snap on sockets. they are 1 in the same.
@@parkersgarage4216 lol as compared to a 22mm Gearwrench socket I have that rusted in the case without ever being used. Only socket in the set that did too. Lol I swear I’m done with them for everything but their ratchets.
@@gtcam723 oh lol, well I can tell you they are much better than gearwrench sockets. I have some of those. I much prefer the Williams by far. The gear wrench are good beater sockets though. Also good to throw in a bag and take w you. If u lose 1 u don't give a shit lol.
I prefer sockets that's broached all the way to the bottom. I ran into too many instances when my ratchet bottom out against frame or component of the thing I'm working on. I usually stuff paper towels in the socket for when I need shallower broach.
I’ve got the Koken nut grips and their Z ultra shallow sockets in 1/4”. They are both really nice. The nut grips work on stainless steel nuts and bolts where obviously magnetic doesn’t and the z sockets are even more shallow than the Snap On low profile sockets unless you use them with a ratcheting wrench or the fun dip ratchet.
I love snap on tools used them for forty years. No problem except for line wrenches rounded every fastener itryed. I used mat co and mac.Mid length sockets were my favorite when they came out.
Let me tell you. I’m 45, just started thinking about working on my own cars. Been doing a lot of research. I have so many questions. CP you put the whole good, bad, ugly in tools. I needed that. I don’t think I need snap on or Mac if I’m working in my garage twice a month? Not much wear and tear on car or sockets. I feel like that would be a waste. Here’s a question. If I’m trying to drill out a bolt say on my diff, what do you think would break first? The bolt or the snap on socket? Let’s say I had mid range socket, koken. Same bolt. Just want to make sure I give my car the best care I can. At least let me do my part on my end. 😅
I do have some cheap husky thin-walled 6-point deep well metric sockets and they are a night and day difference from my Ko-ken Z series sockets. They also do not fit the “fix” on the “wobble fix” Ko-ken extensions. The geometry on my professional sockets is far superior and the lower tolerance machining means the sockets fit the hardware tightly and without ‘slop’. I bought the husky’s because I needed them for a project that day and could not wait for a shipment from Japan. Now I wish I would have just waited… they are garbage by comparison. Will they get the job done? Absolutely, but will you enjoy using them nearly as much as a Ko-ken socket? likely not.
Good evening to my good friend CP! My nights are SO MUCH BETTER when I see your notification appear! It hit 90° today here in Cincinnati. Too soon for that! After your video is over I'm going to watch the Monaco F1 practice session (my boys in red seem to have found a few ponies in the past two weeks). Have a superb everything and a great Friday. Give Henry a kiss on the noggin for me!
Hey.. if you purchase Koken.. go to google and put in koken tools.. socket sets.. etc. You can get a lot better deal on them purchasing from someplace else...
Hey dude! Got a few questions. I want to have “less” tools, but higher quality. I was thinking to buy just an impact sockets. Is it a good idea to only have impact sockets since I can use them with regular ratchets? Or should I buy a set of regular sockets as well. Like I said, I want to have less tools to keep up with, so if I can just buy one set of high quality tools that would be ideal. Hope that makes. Keep up the good vids
Always start with impacts. You can run an impact socket on everything but can’t run chromes on an impact. Chromes are super nice for tight spots tho but if I could only have one type it would be impacts.
That minimized chamfer on the SO sockets also helps when you have a partly obstructed bolt head as you’ll be able to make more contact that you would with one of the heavily chamfered pieces. In wrenches, ratchets, and sockets, I own some Snap On sockets and a long handle 3/8” QR ratchet. A ton of Gearwrench (love their 90t ratchets), some Craftsman, a bunch of Milwaukee, some Dewalt. Oh and some Tone as well.
There are certain situations where the depth of the shoulder in the socket is very important. Specifically starting nuts on to studs. Snap-on does have a much thinner wall thickness than any other brand out there. Snap-ons shallow sockets are smaller than any other brand which is great for accessibility. Snap-ons wrenches and sockets are broached to a much tighter tolerance than other brands Downsides: Snap-on chrome sockets cannot tolerate being used on impact guns, they will crack. Snap-on 3/8" drive sockets, the deep sockets have three different lengths. Which is a problem for CAC, and some constant torque hose clamps. The socket is not deep enough. This is incredibly frustrating. Snap-on does not make a extra deep sockets for hose clamps anymore. So I have to keep 4 sunex sockets in my box. 5/16, 10mm, 7/16, and 1/2.
I tried to buy all 6 point SK USA sockets, but just before I completed my set, the Chinese took over and I had to complete my set with Wera. I mostly work with AF, so I have those by SK in standard and deep in 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2", I also have metric SK 6 points in 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2". My 12 points are by Duralast but I hardly use those. I don't have any snap on because I consider them over priced and I can't buy from their tool trucks, besides I don't use my sockets enough to justify such an expense. (My old cheaper sockets have been relegated to an old toolbox somewhere). I do have Snap On ratchet wrenches amongst others, but I didn't pay full Snap On prices for those)
Picked up a deep set of Icons just to check out a while back and was surprised that they were shallow broached. Very surprised. Most of my chrome sockets are old Armstrong, SK, or Williams and none are like that.
Any suggestions for me upgrading my metric combination wrench set . I have a bunch of mismatched wrench’s to make a set. Thanks for being honest and unbiased on your reviews.
Rivisiting this video again. I think you’re going to inspire me to actually work on a tool channel. Also, I’m starting to think I’d like to design my own set of ratchets lol
@CP the tool addict you should check out the Felo deep magnetic sockets they are unique. On another subject have you seen or heard about the new Snap On 14.4 volt mini right angle drill. I t was the first thing I saw when I got on the truck today and apparently I'm the only one in my area to have it. It uses its own special mini drill bits that come out of a Blue point right angle drill adapter kit. Any way you should look into it. I don't know if anyone makes anything like it.
Yes I saw it 2 weeks ago to bad the dang thing doesn't have any bits lol its very cool I liked it until I asked about drill bits and it only has one right now lol
@@CPthetooladdict YA409 is the drill bit kit but the individual drill bits are YA409 push space bar and then the size say 18 for 1/8 and then L M or S for length so YA 409 18 M is the item number for the medium length 1/8 bit on the online catalog.
I find different situations for shallow & deep cut sockets (how far in the nut goes) lug nuts especially with chrome caps deeper works better in those situations..gotta have both ...Thanks buddy..
Nice video would like to know your favorite socket brand and why. Mabe a video on your fav tool truck brand and mabe fav cheap brand. Thanks for making Great content
I prefer the shallower broached sockets in general. The deeper broached sockets excel whenever you're trying to remove those long acorn nuts or long lug nuts. Hey man keep up the good work! 👍🏻
If someone already has a full set of snap on impact sockets that they use every day and a set of Matco silver eagle chrome sockets that’s only used when an impact socket won’t fit, is it worth it to upgrade the silver eagles to snap on? Also any downsides to using the impact sockets constantly on hand tools and impacts?
I would not think so upgrading chrome isn't probably necessary unless you just wanted to.. and yes the downside to using impact is they wear out faster have a fatter profile so could cause clearance issues and in some cases don't have the depth.
Could you do a video on ratchets ? Compare different brands and give your thoughts on what would be considered professional and what’s the best for dyiers
What a game changer when I started using Snap On mid Lengths. I just wish Tekton would step up and do a mid length. Surprise nobody’s done a mid length and a half inch drive socket (that I know of) Love the channel CP keep up the good work. 👍🏻👊🏻
@@russellpottenger8584 I think in 12 point but not 6 unfortunately. I don’t find I need 1/2 in mid length but I mainly work on Toyota/Lexus/Chevrolet stuff
@@CPthetooladdict both opinions, just looking to start building my better box and send the craftsman stuff to the home box or give it to a kid starting out.
Mac deep swivel impacts are more mid length than anything, can’t tell you how helpful that feature has been. Matco’s are the same. Snap-on’s on the other hand are actually deeper.
So I will agree that Snap-On makes some great stuff. However, virgin steel isn't a term with any real basis outside of not recycled. Honestly, if they said more about the types of steel, it would be more to me. The fact is, I don't expect anyone to use recycled steel because you want to know what it is. When people say the type of steel... that is where my interest jumps up.
Wow! While a vast majority of the steel in the U.S. is recycled, it is inferior in quality to “virgin” steel from freshly mined materials. Recycled steel often comes from automotive scrap, which contains copper impurities that cause cracking when reused Seems like you needed a refresh in your education.
@CPthetooladdict only about 40% of steel over all used in manufacturing is recycled. Small products are much harder manufacturer using recycled steel if they will be stressed. But virgin still means nothing compared to S2, A2, 3V, etc. And all they say is special (not even virgin) and taking more heat. So we know they are using an alloy steel... which is what steel generally is. Could have missed a virgin comment somewhere.
Oh dam CP now to show me the MAC sockets are different length now I feel like getting some of them sometimes you need a socket no to long and jet no to short I know I have little extensions but some times you just need the correct length socket thanks for this video great content
Guys that want to save money need to look into Williams tools made and owned by Snap On made in USA priced in the same realm of Gearwrench and cheaper on a lot more stuff. Don’t look on Amazon look at protools.
I know this is a older video but I am just getting back into the field and don't have any expensive tool I have a lot of tekton sockets and some tekton long double box wrenches and the rest of my wrenches are kobolt and hf I hate the hf ones but the work for now some times lol I am a r&r guy in a trans shop what should I start to get off the truck first I know my sae wrenches are junk my metric gets the job done I know I need impact 3/8 I just have chrome and I use a impact on them all day so I will break one eventually I get that what would everyone recommend I am on very tight budget right now so I can't and don't want a 400 a month truck bill so I have to spend money wisely and am just lost cause I know what I need I just don't know what is the most important if that makes sense I also could use impact swivel sockets but I have an adapter and it works for now snd help from you and or the viewers would be great
Just got a little 13 piece metric set of shallow 1/4 inch gearwrench sockets, they are alright 4mm to 15 . I guess for 22 off amazon they are great for the price, and these wont be at my work box getting really used and abused so it will be ok for the garage. I keep the real silver (snapon) at work
Snapon sockets also hold very tight to specification for the size - there is a min/max tolerance range for sockets, and they generally hold pretty tight near min (closest to exact size) so the chance of rounding is minimized. That said - I have all Snapon because I was lucky. Would I make fun of Gearwrench? Absolutely not. They are a good, affordable product. I had alot of Gearwrench and still have some. For a weekend wrencher, they are a perfectly fine product.
I disagree its a cheaply made product that has built a name and down graded the quality they used to make a great affordable tool that is absolutely been diminished over time.
Im surprised you don't have some DeWalt impact sockets. That's what I got on the cheap, but they're not super China cheap. They're Taiwan and i beat the ever living hell and they're all fine.
I understand, lot of factors take into play. For example an auto tech that depends on these tools everyday to make a living is different than the occasional do it yourselfer that works on car only as needed. Maybe 2 or 3 times a year. As to other factors, some people might have disposable income, they can go buy a 45 piece socket set from Snap-on for $900, but that might be different than someone struggling with rent, food, wife and two children. I think most people rather buy diapers and buy their lady a perfume than splurge on a socket set. That's like saying I don't understand why people just don't go buy a 2024 Mercedes and rather struggle buying a used water pump at the junk yard to fix their 98 Corolla. Even with professionals, I see many of them at Harbor Freights. By the way, I agree with you. I HATE working with cheap tools, I think its a great investment. My tools have to be USA. No China, NO Taiwan, etc. I hate when tools fails and they always do at the worst time.
Hey cp. Been doing a lot of research. Are the Mac sockets the same as proto? I was going to order a half inch driver impact sae set for my collection and they look identical to Macs. And the like half the price
Not exactly the macs have knurled stamping on the bottom and they are etched and the proto have none plus they are bullet shaped vs the tapered style of mac.
@@CPthetooladdict are they both made in the same factory? I have to meet up with my Mac guy on my way to work. We don't have a dealer and I'm thinking about saving some money by ordering proto, is it worth the savings to switch or should I stick with Mac?
Hey I rate snap on over gearwrench just snap my handle on my 84tooth flex head really like the ratchet but didn’t hold up like my snapon but gunna try a Mac or matco next and see what there like what your perfect 3/8 flex head ratchet ?👍
CP is right. Try a Mac Axis 3/8 drive 90 tooth ratchet. They are Awesome sir. I have qty(3) of them. All are 13 inches long. A non locking flex head with comfort grip and the same ratchet that is the bent handle offset design. And the third one is full chrome fix head ratchet. Very strong ratchets. I love them all. 😎
There are some cheaper brands out there with tighter tolerances. Client Graphics has a good video on tolerances for different brands. One thing to note, the looser tolerances can be helpful if you live in the rust belt / constantly dealing with fasteners that have a lot of build up.
@@CPthetooladdict yeah, most of these brands only have one line of sockets. So try try to balance fitment for a wide range of applications. Tight enough to not to round off a new fastener, loose enough to take off the rusty stuff. If you're using cheaper sockets you definitely want to be using the 6 point sockets on hex fasteners to avoid rounding. Of the cheaper brands I think Gearwrench, Icon, & Tekton are among the best. Perfect for a weekend warrior. Icon tends to have a tighter fit of the three.
@@CPthetooladdict @CP The Tool Addict Based on ClientGraphics's testing, the Icon and Tekton are virtually the same on the Rockwell hardness scale at 44.4 and 44.5 respectively. The Gearwrench scored a 44.8. so there is not much of a difference between the three. However, all of them are quite a bit softer than Snap On, which came in at 49.4. There is a trade off though. The harder the steel, the more brittle it becomes. This is why Snap On sockets tend to crack before they "egg out". But Snap On may very well have the best balance in that regard. The only brand that came close (of the ones tested) was Husky at 48.2.
I really like Chris but he's not a mechanic and testing stuff for strength is pretty subjective especially when tools that last make me more money than tools that break diy people have a hard time grasping this concept because they don't use tools everyday.
@@CPthetooladdict Not the deeps... which are the ones that matter, I suppose. I'm maybe a little spoiled with a NAPA distribution warehouse here in town. Usually no wait for tools that are ordered. May be skewing my opinion a little.