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The best speaker you probably haven't heard of. With Purifi & Satori goodness!

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@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

If you would like to support the cause: Patreon: www.patreon.com/erinsaudiocorner Contribute via PayPal: www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=CLHSW4L9SBSLY Generic Amazon Affiliate Link: amzn.to/34FsL0o (^ earns me a small commission at no additional cost to you)

@bbfoto7248 2 года назад

Many thanks to the owner of these speakers for loaning them to Erin for this test, and for driving 10 hours from Kansas to pick them up!

@frosty6845 2 года назад

I think this is the best speaker I've seen measured that didn't use DSP

@conduit242 2 года назад

Hales Revelation 3. Sadly unavailable now.

@bbfoto7248 2 года назад

@Erin's Audio Corner 👍 Just for Search Engine function alone, you might want to include the manufacturer's name and model number of the speakers in the title of the video, or at least in the description.

@picassoimpaler3243 2 года назад

Oh man, someone made the exact speaker I wanted to DIY. That's pretty exciting, cause these look awesome

@BestKiteboardingOfficial 2 года назад

Thanks for taking the time to review this speaker Erin, $10 donated via PP.

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

Wow! Thank you!

@pennfootball71 2 года назад

YG Acoustics have aluminum ridges CNC machined into the cabinet to get rid of all resonances so well they act as good as an open baffle in a cabinet that is sealed. Another good company at this is Rockport Technologies and have a box built in a box.

@bhupendrapatel9686 2 месяца назад

Excellent review Erin, thank you.

@LynnXternal 2 года назад

Yess! Thank you! I've eagerly been awaiting this speaker review =)

@aaronschen9896 2 года назад

Impressive, seems well worth the price actually

@thunderpooch 2 года назад

Brilliant choices. Safori and Purifi always impress

@JaytheP 2 года назад

Oh I’ve been waiting for your review of March’s Sointuva. I remember seeing him announce it on ASR a while ago, gorgeous looks and sound. Would love to see a DSP version of this from March

@canepaper967 Год назад

2:48 bitumen is asphalt, very heavy and cheap and has good vibration damping.

@bjtaudio 10 месяцев назад

it the best little bookshelf I have ever seen. very nice drivers

@stephanemorency9260 2 года назад

Great job!! Thank you. Maybe my bad but no where I see how amazing it sounds, data being one side of the story. Tks.

@pocket5s1 2 года назад

My sister and I were talking today about the time we attended a Phil Collins concert many, many years ago and there you are wearing a tshirt on the same day

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

I’d love to see him touring with Genesis but apparently his health is really bad and I don’t think I’ll ever get that chance again. :/

@pocket5s1 2 года назад

@@ErinsAudioCorner I agree :/

@randallbessinger1309 2 года назад

My nephew and I saw them on their recent Chicago tour (actually went to both concerts). He did the entire concert sitting and walked on and off stage with a cane. It was a really good concert and he still sings well, but a little thin. To be expected based on health and age. I enjoyed it😀

@word2RG 2 года назад

great choice for review! thank you

@ericmoss6110 2 года назад

Unrivaled passive performance, super impressive.

@citroeniste2011 2 года назад

Outstanding review (as always) of what looks like a fantastic speaker, though I'm still surprised every time I see that Satori WG tweeter - I don't think anyone else sells a naked Be dome, for good reason. They really need a grille on it. If SB doesn't do it I hope Alan considers doing something like TAD does on their Be concentric drivers (grille over the whole thing with a scrim behind it). One aspect of the performance you touched on briefly that especially impressed me is the vertical directivity - what hole there is points down to the floor! Moreover, the response above axis looks good enough to easily pass the sit-stand tonality test if you place them at seated ear level (most stands are too short, but another pet peeve for another day...).. That's just exceptional control of the forward lobe.

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

Thanks, Jay! And I 100% agree.

@tetraktys6540 2 года назад

Why does the tweeter need a grille?

@hideopalescent 2 года назад

@@tetraktys6540 Beryllium is brittle and very fragile, and the dust is highly toxic if inhaled.

@C--A Год назад

@@hideopalescent Wrong! Beryllium tweeters are only toxic in the raw material, and during the manufacturing process. Once the speaker is manufactured the Beryllium tweeter doesn't give off any toxins into the air 👍🏾 If a Beryllium tweeter has a grill cover it's simply a aesthetic or performance choice by the speaker designer/manufacturer 👌🏾

@Voidrunner01 Год назад

@@hideopalescent You're not going to get any dust generated by the tweeter dome unless you take sandpaper to it and snort the dust. And even then, you'd be hard-pressed to get enough exposure for any serious issues. It's a problem during manufacturing with occupational exposure, yes. For the end-user, not so much.

@willbrink Год назад

I like the tech and look of those speakers. Would love to compare them to the ATC SCM 19v2 I have, still my reference stand mounts.

@ebkesq72 10 месяцев назад

Erin-great review of a very interesting speaker. “Bitumen” is a synonym for asphalt and is pronounced “BITCH-you-min.” (I know this from my days working for a roofing consultant).

@HotSause 2 года назад

Love the tutorial aspect of your analysis with your cursor hoovering on the focus area. Learning more each video. Didnt know your Amazon affiliate can be used with stuff off topic. You should emphasize and remind us more often. Does the link work with Prime subscribers?

@zackpetrovic3029 2 года назад

Woo, I'm from Australia and yep never heard of it. Would make a great DIY project if you can afford it, but could use more info on the crossover

@peternemeth4947 2 года назад

ProAc uses the same material for internal damping of it's cabinets.

@dilbyjones 9 месяцев назад

Just found this brand . Really great one.

@PKAWA 2 года назад

I'm very curious how these would compare to the Buchardt A500 purifi speakers.

@johnbeeck2540 2 года назад

Nice testing and explanations!

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

Thanks!

@josephpearson2 2 года назад

How does this compare to the Philharmonic Audio BMR?

@shining31 2 года назад

Nice speaker & review. Is there a slope rate you follow to analyse the estimated in room response ? Or do you just try to find the tendancy and then see what is popping up ? (Or down :) )

@juicebox853 2 года назад

I am a fan of passive radiators.

@michaelrobinson9643 Год назад

Erin, how well does it produce kick drums and explosions etc? I note you remark on that in some other reviews and for me the instantaneous response on some sounds is a "problem point" or struggle. I'm actually looking at these for myself and would find a few extra independent remarks valuable.

@chadlejeune9834 Год назад

I know this is late and you probably won’t see this Erin, but do you remember your impressions of the soundstage and imaging of these? Looking to upgrade my LS50 Metas, and need something that will perform at louder volumes without as much distortions and compression. I’m addicted to Kef’s imaging and deep soundstage, and wondering if these would perform similarly in that regard.

@adamdonastorg2685 2 года назад

How would you rank these vs the perlisten 4b?

@wadimek116 Год назад

Assuming your using eq and subwoofer handles below 80hz. Is smaller speaker like this that uses high end drivers better or would you choose JTR ht210? Unfortunately because Im mostly doing similar speakers DIY I can't really listen to them before buying but Im curious what is ultimate high end in terms of sound quality at 96db if we include subwoofer

@Phloored Год назад

I bet these would sound awesome as a tower with active electronics. Easily go down to 20htz with the hypex fusion amps designed by the same guy who designed the woofer in these.

@mutsukabure 2 года назад

I own a pair of these. Best sounding speakers I've heard.

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

Cool! What do you like about them? Just curious.

@mutsukabure 2 года назад

@@ErinsAudioCorner They go deeper than the much larger floor standers they replaced, exhibit no noticeable bass boomey frequencies in my room, are dead silent (no quiet hiss without music playing), and just feel completely at ease no matter what is thrown at them in my opinion. I'd spent a long time trying different speakers, and the ones I liked most in the past always made something specific stand out in a piece of music that I really liked, usually it would be an instrument that would get my attention. But these speakers nothing stands out within music, everything just sounds awesome and I feel like I can just listen to music more and not focus on what the speakers are accentuating.

@michaelrobinson9643 Год назад

@@mutsukabure Hi, I'm wondering after your time with the speakers if you could offer a perspective on how they do in action movies and music with very decisive dynamic needs like kick drums. Do you get that visceral 'kick' from them and a sense of the real fullness in the notes? Do they have the dynamic range to play a movie at reference (I'm assuming you have decent amplification that isn't the limiting factor)? I would be using a sub with them (I'm considering them now on my shortlist) and listen at about 3m.

@supercompooper 2 года назад

Sold out!

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

They’re custom made, I believe. I think I saw the site says a 4 week delivery time. I didn’t ask the guy who I borrowed them from how long it took to receive them.

@andrea585ny 2 года назад

Hey Erin, thanks for the great review! How do these compare to the Selah Purezzas?

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

Quite different, especially in the top octave. The Selah were much wider, IIRC. "out of the box", though, I think I'd prefer these overall. With EQ, I'd possibly lean toward the Purezza.

@andrea585ny 2 года назад

@@ErinsAudioCorner I've been leaning toward Purifi based speakers lately but they're all pretty pricey for me. Though I could probably diy a pair of Purezzas for under $2k. Thanks so much for your help. Your objective/subjective style of review and wealth of information is invaluable and it makes you one of the absolute best audio channels anywhere. Cheers!

@cowboytonydee Год назад

I'd be curious to see how they compare to Dynaudio Special Forty

@bryanbassett2110 2 года назад

Fun fact: the fellow that designed these uses Mundorf AMT's in his home speakers.. (mundorf ftw)

@simpleidindeed 2 года назад

Thanks for the reviews always. Would you mind if I ask you to upload both normalized and not normalized of Contour Plots when you post a review on your website?

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

I used to but I stopped recently. Server space costs money and since I've started adding Group Delay and Step Response, I swapped them out. The non-normalized is found in the globe plots. It's the same data, just presented circularly.

@simpleidindeed 2 года назад

@@ErinsAudioCorner Got it.

@jeremybernardi1986 2 года назад

Great review. How do these compare to the BMRs? Worth the price differential?

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

I can't really say, to be honest. Especially now that the BMR has changed from what I reviewed.

@jeremybernardi1986 2 года назад

@@ErinsAudioCorner thanks for responding. I'm stuck on decing on my next speak between these and the R3 or going down the diy route with the CSS 1TDX or BMRs. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated

@jmpsmash 2 года назад

With the PR right behind the woofer. Are there any leak of midrange through the PR? If not, what's done in the cabinet to prevent that?

@RennieAsh 2 года назад

2:19

@thunderpooch 2 года назад

Love this design. And yes, you could easily build this at well below half their cost

@f1shb0n3d 2 года назад

The retail price of all components minus the enclosure, crossover and excluding tax shipping is around $2435: Item Price Count Total Satori TW29BNWG-4 Waveguide Tweeter $494.70 2 $989.40 "Purifi Audio PTT6.5PR 6.5"" Passive Radiator" $177.00 4 $708.00 "Purifi Audio PTT6.5X04-NFA-01 6.5"" Woofer - 4 ohm" $369.00 2 $738.00 $2,435.40 Manufacturer is not making much money on these. You can do much cheaper only if you use cheaper tweeter and without the passive radiators which will be a completely different speaker.

@RennieAsh 2 года назад

@@f1shb0n3d not to mention the 1.6kg of copper inductor per speaker

@frosty6845 2 года назад

I doubt enough of these are made at a time to bring the cost down

@markceci9896 2 года назад

@@f1shb0n3d Actually, the ratio of markup is super-low. I don't know how they make any money. Maybe they get a great discount on the drivers? Most of the time, driver quantity discounts aren't that great.

@Nightjar726 8 месяцев назад

That’s kinda narrow dispersion? How’s the soundstage on those ?

@flipperflapperdapper 2 года назад

Would LOVE to see you measure a Salk BePure2 for comparison!

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

I'd be willing to but would need them to loan me a set for review.

@rickg8015 2 года назад

How are they with low level listening compared to more efficient speakers in the same price bracket?

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

To be completely honest, I didn't even test them at lower volume. I was listening at about 80dB at 3 meters on average but not much below that.

@astra004 2 года назад

@@ErinsAudioCorner That’s the fun range for me.

@thuxtech9517 2 года назад

what is the crossover point on these?

@ferdinandbardamu3945 2 года назад

This or the Perlisten bookshelf?

@ArmandoGarcia-rz1ij 2 года назад

What is the lowest you think they satori can be crossed over?

@truetaylor8648 2 года назад

Depends Heavily on your slope and intended output requirements, but 4th order LR you can get away with about 1400hz at pretty impressive levels. I'm typically ending up at 1700-1900 for most of my designs :)

@hamzatatta952 Год назад

What’s the d. B.

@henriksrensen3220 2 года назад

It meauseres good. But is it great sounding?

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

Yes.

@vikassm 2 года назад

So, what do we need, besides a miracle? Tar sheets. Lots of tar sheets.

@anandshah71 2 года назад

Erin how do you compare them to Dutch Dutch or Ki3

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

I’d take the DD8c.

@cowboytonydee Год назад

Kii 3 is highly superior to the D&D from my knowledge

@anandshah71 Год назад

@@cowboytonydee hear them , I did both are outstanding but my money is on DD if I had a choice

@C--A Год назад

@@anandshah71 Yep forgetting measurements most people prefer the sound of the D&D compared to the Kii3!

@TexasCorgiGun 2 года назад

4k is a lot of money for that little speaker.

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

Total up the price of the raw components. The tweeter alone is $1000/pair from Madisound. Dealer price isn't much better (I know).

@pliedtka 2 года назад

Not it's not. This thing is quite underpriced for what it is.

@TexasCorgiGun 2 года назад

@@ErinsAudioCorner That's good to know, thank you for the info and the review.

@ChannelBri 2 года назад

Where is the kit?

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

@@ChannelBri www.marchaudio.com/product/sointuva-wg-speaker/

@RennieAsh 2 года назад

Bit-tu-men or bit-chu-men is how it's said afaik

@josegazal701 2 года назад

Only best speakers here. 😁

@Pete.across.the.street 2 года назад

Does the Be tweeter get fatiguing?

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

No. Not at all. I use Scanspeak Be tweeters in my car.

@chinmeysway Год назад

And the company name is? ?

@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah Год назад

March Audio

@ctberg1 2 года назад

Are the surrounds rotted out or is that the actual shape of them?

@freelancer1499 2 года назад

How is this nearfield if close to a back wall?

@glengatt3941 2 года назад

So there is nothing better at 4 thousand $?

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

Passive, in this size? Not that I'm aware of.

@quant2011 2 года назад

Holy Moly! There is at least $2k in just drivers in these speakers per pair! DIY community will cringe and yell - they match 97dB tweeter with 82dB woofer! WTF? Unforgiveable sin

@quant2011 2 года назад

For $4,000 we could buy 4 eminence woofers 15 inch per side, one Alnico SEAS midrange 850$ and still have $350 for tweeter of your own choice. Mount it all on open baffles. But hey, if you think 96dB with such cone area will sound more distorted vs 6.5 inch with 83dB...... go ahead ;)

@st170ish 2 года назад

Go Aussie oi oi oi 😉

@h4tch3tt74 Год назад

Damn $4,000 after taxes get applied. Waaaaay to rich for the vast majority of people out there.

@OitbCZSf0bUiQAMXK2Mz 2 года назад

First

@colbylaro9361 2 года назад

What a quick draw

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

@Colby laro that's what she said!!!!

@TexasCorgiGun 2 года назад

@@ErinsAudioCorner Lol

@colbylaro9361 2 года назад

@@ErinsAudioCorner lol...I actually lol.

@m.j.s.3838 2 года назад

Kinda lazy intro to such a fine product. You didn’t put the name of this product in the title or description. And, you didn’t find out how to pronounce the name. Good review otherwise.

@improvingshooter5423 2 года назад

Was this a paid review? Or did you actually pay full price for these speakers?

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

First off: I never get paid for any reviews. Nor do I get free product for review. These were loaned from the person who purchased them. The owner actually drove 10 hours from Kansas and picked them up from me yesterday because he was nervous about having them shipped back. 👍

@improvingshooter5423 2 года назад

Great to hear! Sorry if I seemed like a jerk, I read my comment again this morning and it came across more passive aggressive then I intended, I was genuinely curious to know if you bought them. Thanks for the content!

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

@@improvingshooter5423 I appreciate the follow up. TBH, I read your reply and was like "wth?" but just let it slide. I appreciate you following up. :)

@NeverTalkToCops1 2 года назад

$4000. More audiophoolery.

@ErinsAudioCorner 2 года назад

That's easy to say. But... Show me a passive bookshelf speaker of the same size that is cheaper and has better performance. From linearity to compression. I don't know of one.