They really were a professional punching bag this entire match. Jamakus investing so much metal and apm to kill him instead of helping top lane lost blue the game
Do Jammacus and Vanaja have beef? Also, it pains me to see a high OS player knocked out, and no one donates things to them. APM is the only finite resource in BAR. You can’t afford to waste it. If someone gets wiped and doesn’t quit, teammates should prioritize donating to them to get them back in it.
If you're ever playing Navy, fighting a duck swarm there's a simple counter that works every time. PUFFINS. Literally hard counters the little buggars and they're cheaper + faster to make. Using torpedo gunships will make your life MUCH easier dealing with them as the ducks can't fight back and are too slow to evade their torpedos.
Those ducks look to be a bit of a broken unit, you shouldn't be able to counter an actual entire navy with under water spam bots from a land fab imo. I see someone saying you can counter them with torpedo bombers but that seems dubious to me, bombers in this game evaporate the second a fighter gets out of the air fab. Subs seem entirely useless for how fragile they are too. But that was already kinda the case in total annihilation... I think, it's been a minute. You seem to always be better off overall just spamming more destroyers since they have way more roles they can play than just fire torpedos.
I suspect they could easily nerf them indirectly by giving depth charges & torpedoes a bigger AoE. That wouldn't affect anything else that much but it'd prevent such tight balling of Ducks. Maybe there's a case for using naval mines/amphibious rolling mines against them, as they are currently? According to the website Ducks have almost exactly the same HP and damage output as an Barracuda attack sub (which are supposed to counter other underwater threats!) for about a third of the cost, they're just more efficient than anything else in the water, which doesn't make a lot of sense. The balance of most underwater units feels way off, IMO.
@@xeroprotagonist ducks are the only viable option to contest water as a land player. They are very strong yes and they do need a nerf. but I do hope they add more variety of units that require more brains to use to contest water.
@@angry_strawberry2733 yes! IMO a team that gets forced off the water should be able to push opposing navies back to their coasts and get back into the water by taking air superiority and threatening them with torpedo bombers, but T2 AA ships just annihilate all aircraft. I think if they were changed so they worked more like Screamers/Mercuries instead of flak, navies would be able to contest aircraft without being invulnerable to them. The game also needs T2 seaplanes and hovercraft, or maybe the existing seaplanes and hovercraft should be moved to T2 and powered up.
@@angry_strawberry2733 Why does land need to be able to contest water? Nobody seems to care that water players cannot contest land superiority. If you lose water then thems the apples. Unless we get the walking boats from supcom, then ducks being as strong as they are have no water equivalent. The counter to a water victory is air, not just more ground.
@@Procrastinater let me rephrase that. There need be more valid ways to contest water. You say air is the counter. But just add 3 flak ships and air cant do anything anymore. Navy as it is right now completely obliterates land and as a navy player there are many many ways you can contest land however the opposite is not true. This is the problem with navy in this game. Once its lost you cannot really do anything against it anymore and its why so many people do not want to play with water maps.
Its always a pleasure seeing players rebuild after losing their base, it is crucial to win games. And really painfull to see when some players disconect after the first bad battle. PS: Second time seeing you having problems pronouncing my name, haha. It comes from the spanish words "sacro imperio". Can be abbreviated to "sacro" if you wanna cast more of my games without having a stroke. (in general your pronunciation is correct)
