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Hello, and welcome to MiamiCentral Station! Today we are going to be taking a ride on Brightline’s premium class from here in Miami up to West Palm Beach.
Check out the previous video where I flew on an almost empty flight to Houston on United! : • A Virtually EMPTY flig...
--- Train Information ---
Train Number: 7:48am Northbound
Train Consist: Siemens Venture Train Sets
Departure Time: 7:48am
Arrival Time: 9:00am
Journey Time: 1hr 12min
Seat: 11C, Coach 1
Top Speed: 80 mph
Ticket Price: $34.00
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Комментарии : 138   
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 2 года назад
So excited that Amtrak is getting the same trains for the rest of the country! This Siemens Venture coaches + Charger locomotive combo is a winner!
@FreshApplePie
@FreshApplePie Год назад
depends on the lines too though that said i dont know if they are planning to have dedicated rails but if amtrak acela is anything to go by, the locomotive is not the problem, the service needs to be consistently fast or the locomotives potential is wasted
@currentfaves65
@currentfaves65 2 года назад
15:39 Identical layouts of each station sound like a good idea. Easy to navigate.
@RSDX99
@RSDX99 2 года назад
Beautiful station, beautiful train, the only thing missing seems to be passengers.
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips 2 года назад
It certainly seems that the passenger numbers are low. But that being said, this was an early morning service in the opposite direction of what would be normal commuter traffic, so my bet is that later trains are more populated.
@Ven100
@Ven100 2 года назад
I've been on packed Brightline trains before. All depends on the time of day. Not to mention they just re-opened a few months ago.
@AC-ir3od
@AC-ir3od 2 года назад
High gas prices will remedy that 😂
@Ven100
@Ven100 2 года назад
@@AC-ir3od It already started
@thewatcher305
@thewatcher305 2 года назад
Just wait until they build this to Orlando, it’s going to be full of travelers
@samtrak1204
@samtrak1204 2 года назад
My first and last trip on the Florida EastCoast Railway was in 1954 when I was a 9 year old kid traveling solo from Daytona Beach to Jacksonville and beyond. My second trip was on Brightline in 2018 between MIA and WPB so I can't wait to fly down from DC to ride Orlando extension to Miami and I hope to God trains will carry a cafe car so passengers can mix and mingle and tell tall tales over a very martini or ice cold beer.
@FunkbutterMindshiftingFactory
@FunkbutterMindshiftingFactory 2 года назад
Brightline looks like THEE way to travel and those depots were pristine. Great video, thank you!
@javianjohnson8746
@javianjohnson8746 2 года назад
Been hearing a lot about Brightline being an up-and-comer. Looks like a beautiful train with clean facilities and bright colors that stand out. Even though I don't live in Florida, I do hope it succeeds
@duffman7065
@duffman7065 2 года назад
Wow! This is a fantastic example of doing something the right way. Trust me, coming from Australia, our rail infrastructure leaves a lot to be desired and is not a favoured option to travel to regional areas, with the exception of a couple of cross country rail journeys which in all honesty, are prohibitively expensive. Great video and review as always.
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips 2 года назад
When I was Visiting Australia a few years back, I really only got to see the rail network around Sydney, which looked to be comprehensive enough, but I'm sure that once you leave the city center, things start to get weird.
@duffman7065
@duffman7065 2 года назад
@@LonestarTrips Sydney rail is good for what it covers. Our interstate and regional is where it falls down unfortunately. Long distance rail travel is not something that is a big option. Rail services in NSW were replaced with bus services around 30 years ago for a number of reasons but in my opinion, there really is no substitute for a rail journey through the country.
@badgerattoadhall
@badgerattoadhall 2 года назад
@duff Different states have different gauges right?
@duffman7065
@duffman7065 2 года назад
@@badgerattoadhall yep, although there are also mixed gauges in each state just to confuse the whole thing.
@Neville60001
@Neville60001 Год назад
@Lew Rod, that's just a bunch of fat shaming bullshit.
@richardnelson-ux1zz
@richardnelson-ux1zz Год назад
I think this high speed train would be.ideal for California and many other places
@shreychaudhary4477
@shreychaudhary4477 Год назад
like the locomotive+trainset? or something else?
@AB-fm2zn
@AB-fm2zn 2 года назад
Great video. Thank you. We're actually looking to move in the downtown Brickell area and knowing this will eventually go towards Orlando and Tampa is mind-boggling. We're currently in NYC and yes we do rent cars when needed but we want to duplicate the lifestyle we have here in New York down in Miami, basically car free environment and having everything steps away from our residents. Knowing this will be around the corner is very appealing. Thank you again.
@horrorandcrimebyjondriscol3997
@horrorandcrimebyjondriscol3997 2 года назад
I miss Miami! Thank you for sharing!
@ZapFlashD
@ZapFlashD 2 года назад
I can't wait to start traveling for fun soon! Brightline looks like such a sweet ride!
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips 2 года назад
Travelling for fun is always a good time, and Brightline is absolutely the place to start!
@trueanimationfan6542
@trueanimationfan6542 2 года назад
I remember the first time I rode it (August 2018). The skylight at MiamiCentral sorta reminded me of Kyoto Station in Japan
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips 2 года назад
I haven't had the opportunity to visit Japan (yet), but I'll be sure to check out Kyoto Station when I go!
@rgruenhaus
@rgruenhaus Год назад
Amazing what getting off the CSX tracks does for train service!
@alexverdigris9939
@alexverdigris9939 2 года назад
Nicely put together video, good job.
@sd1jrrt
@sd1jrrt Год назад
Thank you so much for a wonderful, informative coverage. Best regards from New South Wales, Australia 😀
@lewisepicfootycontent5934
@lewisepicfootycontent5934 2 года назад
Been subbed for awhile always love what you do
@enjoyslearningandtravel7957
@enjoyslearningandtravel7957 2 года назад
Thanks for this very well described video! I subscribed to your channel. Can’t wait to take Brightline when it finally comes to Orlando, maybe I will be one of the first on the first train, But besides liking trains I just think it’s a convenient stress-free way to travel. Also I noticed that the train both inside and out looks as good as the ones in Germany and the seats and the bench seat looks even better.
@Zayn2728
@Zayn2728 2 года назад
Nice video! I know Brightline west is their next project. Wonder if they connect New York and Chicago someday!
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips 2 года назад
I hope they do! I think Brightline west will be the first real test of their high speed capabilities, and hopefully they'll look to expand from there.
@MTANewYorkCityTransitFilms
@MTANewYorkCityTransitFilms 2 года назад
Nah. Doubt it, no point. Brightline I think will stay exclusive to Florida. NYC and Chicago are already connected by Amtrak.
@AC-ir3od
@AC-ir3od 2 года назад
@@MTANewYorkCityTransitFilms Amtrak is garbage and an embarrassment ….if not for the government money Amtrak would’ve been out of business long ago.
@MTANewYorkCityTransitFilms
@MTANewYorkCityTransitFilms 2 года назад
@@AC-ir3od okay but I didn’t say Amtrak is great. I said that nyc and chi are already connected by train so there’s no reason for brightline there
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 2 года назад
@@AC-ir3od In all fairness, Brightline would be gone in a jiffy too without subsidies. The only reason they exist is because the state of Florida decided to give them very preferential land deals in addition to all the state and Federal subsidies they are constantly receiving. A subsidy is still a subsidy even if you try to hide it in a land deal. Let's not delude ourselves about transportation infrastructure. It is virtually never "profitable" in the traditional sense. Highways aren't profitable. Airlines are only profitable because we pay for everything for them including airports and air traffic control. What transportation infrastructure is supposed to do is to foster economic development in adjacent economies. You can then capture that "profit" via local taxes specific to the transportation corridor. This is how all transportation infrastructure is monetized everywhere and it works surprisingly well.
@Perich29
@Perich29 2 года назад
they were going to break ground for the brightline west this year but Fortress invester push it to next year, the Brightline west which runs From Victorville CA to Enterprise NV
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips 2 года назад
I had heard something about that, but I was unaware it was being pushed back to next year. Unfortunate we’ll have to wait until 2023 for construction to begin, but at least we’ll have the Orlando expansion to tide us over until then!
@Architect98
@Architect98 2 года назад
Go Brightline and Florida!! 👏🏻👏🏻
@mvm8506
@mvm8506 2 года назад
very informative, thanks for sharing
@douglasengle2704
@douglasengle2704 2 года назад
Thank you for the video. I'd like to see some actual train speeds while on board. Smart phones can download GPS based speedometer apps that can be used to display current speed. Train speed will be more interesting once the fast tracks open up to Orlando. I'd still like to what the speeds are on the costal tracks. I thought Brightline was going to get these tracks up graded to 110 mph. 110 mph is the maximum allowed speed with at-grade crossings in the United States, with the exception of at-grade crossing with removable barriers that allow 125 mph. There are no removable barriers at-grade crossing in the United States at this time.
@ruthmcsweeney179
@ruthmcsweeney179 2 года назад
Really Professional video as always 👌🏼
@lorenzlorenzo1975
@lorenzlorenzo1975 Год назад
Well done America. A good start to catch up with the rest of the world.
@ghighlandchieftain4462
@ghighlandchieftain4462 2 года назад
Wow brilliant video . I am new subscribers to your channel
@JonSkinner1944
@JonSkinner1944 2 года назад
Thank you, for your thoughts on your trip.
@therealburrito3164
@therealburrito3164 2 года назад
its still weird to me seeing something Im used to seeing in the Europe join us here in the United States. But I absolutely love it .
@murdelabop
@murdelabop 2 года назад
The security theater would not be a plus for me, rather it would put me right off. I have to deal with that nonsense every day at work at an airport, and I don't want to have to deal with it during my off time. Plus, I often carry tools, which the security theater won't allow on. No thanks. Hard fail. I wish them well, but I won't be riding them as long as they persist with the security theater.
@inthedaysstillleft1257
@inthedaysstillleft1257 2 года назад
Thank you for this excellent review. Do you have any experience with parking (short term or a few nights) at the Bright line station in West Palm? Did it look safe, secure? Thanks! New subscriber here.
@amsunshine0
@amsunshine0 Год назад
I am concerned about that too. I read that there will be parking passes but know nothing about the cost or how secure the parking lot is.
@superpowerddt
@superpowerddt 2 года назад
Found you in reddit and enjoyed your video. I have liked and subscribed.
@surfliner456
@surfliner456 2 года назад
Love brightline!
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips 2 года назад
Me too!
@xevious2501
@xevious2501 Год назад
Its obvious that pedestrians have not yet adopted the use of the train, it will come in time, but their first major hurtle is the simple fact of transportation after youve reached your destination. Florida is one of those states that you simply need a car to get about. uber will not cut in unless your staying in a small city. but if your doing any getting around town you must have access to a car. And as such the question is.. will people have that sort of access upon reaching their destination? If theirs very cheap and affordable rentals, then they may have something, but if renting a car is expensive, then im afraid most people will opt to do their entire journey in the personal luxury of their own car. 24hr access to go anywhere at any time. The train needs to connect floridas major cities, Miami, Fort Lauderdale. Orlando , Tampa, Saint pete clearwater, Sarasota. Routes that could make daily commutes possible.
@amsunshine0
@amsunshine0 Год назад
I would love to see this train go all over the country. See this go to Pensecola, New Orleans, Alabama.
@amsunshine0
@amsunshine0 Год назад
Yes. I want to take this train from Orlando to Miami. Take my niece to the Zoo Miami. How we get there sounds like it takes a long time train and bus. Uber sounds super expensive. I heard there are 🚎 but can't find any with info on going to the zoo. We have to do better with mass transit.
@xevious2501
@xevious2501 Год назад
@@amsunshine0 Thats amtrak
@xevious2501
@xevious2501 Год назад
@@amsunshine0 The train service must also adopt ev rentals, or very low cost ice rentals. but even then, the question is, why would a person take a train only to then rent a car and needless the say the hassle in returning it. Like LA its the end destination thats the problem, you still need a car to get about, UNLIKE NY whos vast train infrastructure see's to stations but a short walk from ones destination.
@enjoyslearningandtravel7957
@enjoyslearningandtravel7957 2 года назад
I’m looking forward to your new, next video of Orlando Brightline train station, I hope you create it soon.!
@copmoncur6131
@copmoncur6131 2 года назад
Goodnight To You Brightline My Amazing Train Friend And Brightline You Are Very Handsome
@pjinnj35
@pjinnj35 2 года назад
I hope I can ride it on day. It look like Amtrak south the new generation
@ADpre
@ADpre 2 года назад
This reminds me of the trains in Europe
@Fishing-gw3wy
@Fishing-gw3wy 2 года назад
New sub. Great content 👌
@michaelmorales1475
@michaelmorales1475 2 года назад
Nice.
@carlsmith5545
@carlsmith5545 2 года назад
Yeah the stations and trains are nice looking but that's it. Now add speed and it all would be fantastic. How about a Japanese maglev super train from Miami to New York city stopping at a few major cities in between? Now i know that a maglev super train would cost about 65 billion dollars for the northeast corridor. Japan even offered to contribute 5 billion dollars on the maglev project. When completed, it can travel at speeds of up to 375 pluss miles per hour. This means i can board in Washington DC and be in my office in new york city in an hour or less. Try that in your beloved cars or on the slow and lethargic trains called Amtrak. The United States of America, what in the hell are you waiting for ? Highspeed bullet trains and maglev super train technology, the new american dream...
@dennisyoung4631
@dennisyoung4631 Год назад
Bummer. I hoped it would get up to *A Hundred and Two!* Pink? P-pink train? Is this train named? Named B-Blaine? (Or was Blaine the train’s *designer?* )
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Год назад
Ha, each of Brightline’s trains are named after a color, like BrightPink, BrightBlue, BrightGreen, etc. They also have a few duplicates now BrightBlue 2 and BrightGreen 2, although I think the whole fleet will have duplicates with their new set of 5 trains.
@librarian16
@librarian16 Год назад
Are there lifts at the stations for people like me who can't use stairs and escalators?
@shreychaudhary4477
@shreychaudhary4477 Год назад
The station feels too airport-y for my liking, but I'm probably biased from the glory that is BART stations
@amsunshine0
@amsunshine0 Год назад
What is the quickest and least expensive way to get to the Miami Zoo from the train station?
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Год назад
I think taking a bus from the zoo to the Dadeland metro station, and then take the train from there is the cheapest method, fastest I would assume is driving/getting a cab or Uber, but that won’t be cheap.
@annhenry1226
@annhenry1226 Год назад
high speed train just as fast as driving to Miami for higher price than airfare.
@nolantherailfan5048
@nolantherailfan5048 Год назад
11:55 I hear you talking with someone
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Год назад
Haha nice catch. I was chatting with the car attendant about what I was doing and why I was filming.
@nolantherailfan5048
@nolantherailfan5048 Год назад
@@LonestarTrips I wish we had more passenger trains like this
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Год назад
@@nolantherailfan5048 Agreed 110%. It’s a shame that there aren’t more privately funded railways in the US. That being said, Brightline has shown that it’s more than possible, sho hopefully more will come in the future.
@nolantherailfan5048
@nolantherailfan5048 Год назад
@@LonestarTrips I hope brightline expands all over Florida from places line Pensacola Tampa or jacksonville
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Год назад
@@nolantherailfan5048 From what I understand, that's the plan. I think Tampa is next on the agenda, followed by Jacksonville. They're also looking into a high speed line from Las Vegas to LA, but I haven't heard anything about it as of late, likely due to all focus being on the Orlando expansion.
@sachabunniksglobaladventures
@sachabunniksglobaladventures 2 года назад
Very interesting, cant wait until its built to disneyworld in the future
@heaven4hockeycards
@heaven4hockeycards 2 года назад
Can we bring an electric scooter in?
@microfarming8299
@microfarming8299 2 года назад
What kinda camera you are using?
@keeli5575
@keeli5575 2 года назад
1:30 America is so broken
@kogo21
@kogo21 2 года назад
song at 11:00?
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips 2 года назад
Song is "Sunset Dream" by Cheel in the RU-vid Audio Library!
@kogo21
@kogo21 2 года назад
@@LonestarTrips thank you!
@mroctober9165
@mroctober9165 2 года назад
I'm jealous...in California our trains suck!
@TohaBgood2
@TohaBgood2 2 года назад
Lol, the San Joaquins literally uses the exact same equipment, the same Siemens Charger locomotives and now the same Venture cars. It also has the exact same average and top speeds, but it's more popular with riders and serves more stations. Amtrak is now buying the same Siemens equipment for most of the rest of the intercity routes too.
@havenzhai5187
@havenzhai5187 Год назад
How much of this is covered for by the taxpayer?
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Год назад
In all honesty, I’m not sure. Brightline is a privately owned and operated company, so the majority of their funding comes through private investors and revenue from service, however it’s possible the government provides some form of funding as well.
@rgruenhaus
@rgruenhaus Год назад
Put a robocop on the train when in ghetto graffiti areas
@jslasher1
@jslasher1 Год назад
The video is out-of-date. Face coverings are no longer mandated on any form of transport in the USA.
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Год назад
This video is over a year old. A lot of things have changed since then.
@coreynorthbird4691
@coreynorthbird4691 2 года назад
We need more tesla on the road
@tallflguy
@tallflguy 2 года назад
This is just a overpriced commuter rail that no one uses. Tri-rail is a better option and stop by the same cities. That probably will change when the Orlando extension is done, but for now, I’ll stick with Tri-Rail.
@ThePrissy11
@ThePrissy11 2 года назад
Beautiful train line but it has to stop hitting cars👍
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips 2 года назад
That's hardly the right way to look at it. People need to stop going around crossing barriers. The train is fine, but the people breaking the law to save a few seconds are not.
@ThePrissy11
@ThePrissy11 2 года назад
@@LonestarTrips Trains on the East Coast have a warning system to prevent those things. Just saying.
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips 2 года назад
@@ThePrissy11 Where and what systems? I would love to see what implementation has been used. I would assume that, at least in Brightline's case, the trains are moving too fast for such a system to be practical, but if something exists that could be added to the railway to increase safety, I would love to hear about it.
@ThePrissy11
@ThePrissy11 2 года назад
@@LonestarTrips I think it’s called “Positive Train Control” which was mandated to be installed on trains to avoid accidents. Look it up.
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips 2 года назад
@@ThePrissy11 Positive train control (PTC) is designed to prevent _train-to-train_ collisions, not train-car or train-pedestrian collisions. Additionally, PTC is active on 57,536 miles of railway across the US, including on Brightline. Unfortunately, people's actions are just too unpredictable and sudden to create an effective system of stopping trains before accidents. Plus the size and speed of trains makes it almost impossible to stop them before an accident occurs.
@teviblekhman1628
@teviblekhman1628 2 года назад
8:38 I don’t care.
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips 2 года назад
Well that’s a shame. :(
@R262SubwayTrain
@R262SubwayTrain Год назад
Rude
@godofdestruction4636
@godofdestruction4636 Год назад
No more masks 😉
@Carlossantos-wg8rs
@Carlossantos-wg8rs 2 года назад
$100 ONE WAY FARE IS A RIP OFF CHEAPER TO FLY
@Ven100
@Ven100 2 года назад
Talking without a clue.. The only ✈ fares cheaper are Spirit/Frontier (sometimes American). Did you factor in carry on fee? What if you have a checked bag? What if you have both? Got a bike with you? I can take these items myself onto the train. So while you're arriving at the airport (which isn't at city center), 60 minutes early before the flight (vs 5 min 🚆), only to be crammed in TINY seats (✈17" wide vs 🚆19" wide & FAR more legroom), then to be dropped off OUTSIDE the city center, I'll take Brightline, while using Wifi the entire time and looking out the window. Cruising up to speeds of 125 MPH..
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips 2 года назад
It's certainly pricy, but same day travel for $100 is WAY cheaper than any flight between Miami and Orlando. I had the misfortune of having a train cancelled between West Palm Beach and Orlando, and thus had to make same day accommodations between the two cities to ensure I made my connections, and tickets were almost $200. I would have loved the option to travel by train for $100 to Orlando, and seeing as ticket prices don't fluctuate with respect to departure date nearly as much as airfare does, it's a super sensible option for same day trips. Plus it's way more comfortable to travel on Brightline.
@Carlossantos-wg8rs
@Carlossantos-wg8rs 2 года назад
@@Ven100 So stop the bull about global warming, when is this expensive to keep many cars off the road
@Ven100
@Ven100 2 года назад
@@Carlossantos-wg8rs Again, talking without a clue.. I didn't mention anything about environmental impact but since you stepped in it, yes the train (even diesel) is far better than either ✈ or 🚘. I didn't mention your travel cost to the airport to destination either. Brightline offers Brightline+ for pickup/dropoff within 5 miles (currently free - we'll see when Orlando opens). In fact, on my most recent trip Brightline (they remembered me from a previous trip 😎) even dropped me off at my destination 15 MILES away! Even if you take Brightline+ out of equation and just compare Uber costs, the centralized location of a station vs airport gives average to the 🚆. Lonestar is right about same day travel but I was at least comparing Frontier/Spirit booking a few days early. You STILL need to add carry-on/checked 🧳 fees. Even then, the experience between the two is NOWHERE close..
@Carlossantos-wg8rs
@Carlossantos-wg8rs 2 года назад
@@Ven100 I'm talking not you environmental people that complain about climate, but don't make transportation affordable
@alphaomega1969
@alphaomega1969 Год назад
Thanks to China for funding the project.
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Год назад
What?
@alphaomega1969
@alphaomega1969 Год назад
@@LonestarTrips Gov. Rick Scott and his wife had an enormous, hidden financial stake in a Chinese railway company that supplies components to the U.S. contractor building Brightline passenger trains for All Aboard Florida, a venture the governor strongly backed.
@alphaomega1969
@alphaomega1969 Год назад
@@LonestarTrips Same thing with Elon Musk.... The Chinese designed the Tesla's autopilot and FSD source code and not to mention Tesla, SpaceX, Solar city are all Chinese rebranded technology incase you didn't know.
@LonestarTrips
@LonestarTrips Год назад
​@@alphaomega1969 Okay, but China didn't fund the project. From the article you directly quoted from, it sounds like Gov. Scott used the creation of Brightline and the selection of Siemens for personal monetary gain through his at-the-time 50-50 ownership of CSP Victall, which provides parts to Siemens for the trains. Additionally, from what it sounds like in the same article, the partnership was announced after Siemens was selected as the manufacturer. The only real shady thing that occurred was that Gov. Scott knew that he was a majority shareholder in CSP, even though it was a part of a blind trust, and either made the partnership happen, or told someone else to do so, which would result in CSP supplying parts for Siemens. The company was then sold, which netted Scott a lot of money, but none of it was put towards Brightline. Also, in response to your other comment, it sounds like the Chinese company stole Tesla's autopilot and FSD source code, which was given to them by a former Tesla employee, not the other way around. As far as the rebranded Chinese tech, if the private world is anything like the military world, then China would have stolen Tesla, SpaceX and Solar City designs, and rebranded them.
@alphaomega1969
@alphaomega1969 Год назад
@@LonestarTrips Concerning brightline the US dont have the capital to fund the project, to simply put it. Why do you think every entrepreneurs rush to China to get their dream come true? The Chinese government gave a loan to Elon Musk because he could not afford autonomous machinery to build the Tesla cars. Please do your own research instead of blindly believing the news. 95% of Tesla part and component are made in china, electric motor, battery.... Elon Musk thought the FSD software he bought from the Chinese engineer for $10,000 was for all car but found out it was for each car lol Chinese supplier sell the FSD source code for $10,000 and thats why Tesla charge $15,000
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