The Best Video game we don't talk about 

Rod Woodson is a stud

It is THE best kicking system, especially because you control the long snap

Yeah that's one I was shocked everyone disagreed on this with haha.

I'm in the minority then. I fucking hated kicking in APF. I'll take the slider any day

Never gonna happen. The game would have to be built from the ground up to get current with the times. It would cost a ton to develop and they wouldn't be able to sell enough to make a profit. Additionally, the game would only sell for $20-$30 max because no one would pay $60 for it over Madden.

Jeremy Jefferson Then why is it that Adis Football gets better every year and have a team of like 6 ppl and a tiny budget? It’s def possible! They can easily buy an engine and build off of that or build off of their old engine and create a new engine using the old engine as a foundation. I doubt 2k will ever do it again but I think within a year or two we will see Axis rival Madden like 2k did but without NFL license or I predict we’ll see an AAF game or an XFL game if they succeed but we def need another game like 2k8

EA got scared again and bought up a bunch of retired players rights through there NFL/NFLPA collusion. Just so they can nickel and dime everyone for Madden Ultimate Scheme.

McFaulkner 15 the old 2K is gone. They ruined their amazing b-ball series

@@dontdoittoyoself6786 my guess is they did that for ultimate team

Ryan Mason hive thought about that as well

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With King Javo's new editor, you'll be able to do these things. Comes out 12/8/18.

@J H God damn can a dude not wish for something lmao

That would be cool. Go from playing in small stadiums to pro ones for the state title

I wouldn't say every team was balanced, the game certainly favored certain team builds, especially for skilled positions. It disrespects linemen a lot.

I appreciate the idea, but he's right that there should've been a way to unlock new builds. I like to create a player for myself to play as, so the skills for created players were lame (1 for bronze, 2 for silver, 3 for gold - should've been 2, 3, 5, respectively... there were some bronze with 5, why can't my created at least have fucking 2?), and to restrict yourself to one specific team build as well... I don't know what the solution should've been. Unlockables, maybe? Maybe you have to win the championship to unlock a higher, better team. Maybe you start with just 3 silver and 8 bronze, then unlock the 2, 3, 6... then 3, 4, 4, then 5, 5, 1... something like that.

yeah i loved 2k5 but 2k8 has much better gameplay

Exactly

Passing controls for 2K5 was better than 2K8.....

Only thing is that they should add a franchise mode

Have been since I didn't get NFL 2K6...

Sin City Quinn honestly... maybe even once for every console generation would be okay

Manny Yojo Id be down for that!

connor shaw is based. he got robbed out of starting for the bears in '16 cause of his broken leg.

Virtual Varsity good points. A lot of people here agree with you too. I just remember hating it as a kid 😭

@@KofieWhy oh no doubt I avoided kicking at all cost at first. But know I still play this game and I really enjoy the mechanics especially since with the changes to kicking rules in the NFL field goals are no longer thought to be sure points.

Not arguably. Definitely.

Way better. I think 2k5 is slightly overrated from a gameplay perspective.

The idea for 1 was really good, although the graphics are so old it's hard to play. 2 was even better, IMO, especially with how they built on the story from the first (having those rookies from 1 be established players, having the captains aged - Kwazi Mbutabe is fucking awesome, love how he was still churning out yards later in his career); be cool if they tweaked some things to improve 2 and make that 3. My suggestions: A few cosmetic things, so maybe not that big a deal, but: 1 - Your player's voice was really... like, he made a choice, you know? Which, if you made your character from, say, Texas... not really the right accent. A few options would've been nice, or maybe something a bit more generic? 2 - Not that it mattered in game, but... 6'2" 180 lbs? A 6'2" 180 lb TE/LB is insane. Also, I saw him: he wasn't 6'2" 180 lb. Let you pick, right? (Or at least a specific height weight for all positions... even if you're going to go with only one height/weight no matter what... would've 6'3" 230 be at least reasonable for any build? A bit tall for a HB, big for a CB... but not unreasonably so, considering he's a two-sport, 1st overall pick type of athlete.) 3 - It would be cool to merge the team aspect of 1 and player aspect of 2 and go for a game based around 2-player co-op: you get the 1st overall pick and get a superstar, then you or your buddy can also be a star in the 2nd round (or maybe you have two top-20 picks because you traded back last year, something like that?), so you can create *two* (one-way) players to build your team around, and this way you can go offense/offense or defense/defense. You could be a QB with your buddy catching passes from you as a WR or TE, or compliment each other with QB and HB... or both are punishing LBs... whatever. I played 2 with a buddy, and he was the HB and I was the LB... but it was the same person. Would've been cool to have had some ability to customize Franchise a bit, and to have one for each of us. Also... even if there's no story past year 3, you should be able to play out his whole career (and season stats shouldn't disappear after you move up, you should have player cards for team and player stats season-by-season).

Yes, you could challenge plays. It was actually much better than madden imo in this respect. Every game was full of close calls, such as 1st down or short, in or out of bounds, fumble or not, interception or not, complete catch or not, etc. You really had to choose wisely when to use your challenges. Also, unlike madden, basically every play could be challenged. For example, if on a 1st and 30 you threw the ball for a completed pass and they marked it as a 16 yard gain, but you thought you weren't down until 17 yards... you could challenge... and you know what, sometimes you would get a few extra feet or another yard, etc. When you did challenge the refs would got to the booth and the commentators would show a replay you could watch. Many times you really had no idea what the final call would be until the refs announced it because the plays were just so close. During online games players would often no huddle on close calls that went their way on offense so the "tv replay" wouldn't show while picking plays. If a player paused the game and watched the replay in the pause menu they would lose the ability to challenge. This created a good number of should I or shouldn't I challenge moments on defense when playing online. Final note: I probably banged my controller on the floor a few too many times playing APF 2K8 because I lost a game due to not having any challenges left. Frustrating at the time, but again, it made the game that much more fun. Speaking of online play, it was also better than madden in the respect that you actually had penalties online. I never see pass interference, holding, or other calls of that nature online in madden. The only penalties I see online in madden are offsides, jumping, delay of game, and kickoff out of bounds.

and it wasnt just that you were able to challenge but that you could decide what to challenge. Did the pass hit the ground, was the spot incorrect, etc. Waaaay better than half assed madden when you only can select to challenge play and then after 2 random camera angle replays you get the same ref animation.

Exactly Monopolies in all aspects should be illegal

Dion Sanders champ Bailey Richard shermon Patrick Peterson this guy doesn't know football

Don't forget Revis, Rod and Charles Woodson and Darrell Green to toss out a few more Gold CB's!🏈😏

Nigga no

the king of utub e what’s better?

Brian Ariel thanks yo

@William Almendarez for starters I've only played the demo of 13, and bought "25" and 18. The things i don't like: ragdoll glitch physics!!! Just about after every play, players will trip over others and almost teleport back up Slowwwww menus! Not to mention they're just about the same menu every year. Sorting players ratings! When you press the sort button, it freaking puts the low number on top. No one wants that.(just press it twice yeah i know, but it shouldn't be this way) Whenever you edit players in any madden that isn't 12, once you leave editing that player, it goes to all players. In m12, if you edited the 3rd player down of the DT, once you back out of editing that player, you go back to that player. And in 12 these are quick loads too. M12 just feels almost perfect to me in so many ways and every game after just takes good things out, 12 even has undrafted free agents that fill the roster to 75 and they normally look awwwwesome! That's just my opinion that they look awesome though. These are just few examples that i can't stand about newer maddens

I found that I liked having a gold safety and a gold pass rusher. Then I'd use silver for my QB, RB, and WR1 Filled out the rest of the squad with bronzes

You sure can buddy

@@KofieWhy I have a 360 S and a 250 HDD on the way. Is this all i need?

@@jermel2122 Honestly, I've never had to do anything special for it to work lol

@@KofieWhy It just played on your 360 or do you have the OG Xbox?

@@jermel2122 Works on both

In a way yeah. They're the only game allowed to have the NFL

They did make a new Mutant League Football on the Switch

dreamcastboy99filmz is back had no idea, and upon minimal research, I realized that, that game was a lot more arcade-y than I remember. For some reason I remembered it being just a skin of Madden with harder, more ridiculous hits!

@@3serio Actually the new Mutant League Football on Switch, Xbox, PS4, etc. is a spiritual successor not made by EA

Simply put, there's no money in it. Football diehards will probably buy it for sure, but in 2ks eyes that probably not the biggest market.

They tried it in 05. David Stern said no.

They have funding secured for 4 seasons they arent going to flop like AAF

Atom Knight welp

You liked Back Breaker?

Derek Andrews hell yeah, most fun I had playing a football game

I see Jerry Rice and B Sanders but that aint John Elway thats matt stafford in his old bulldogs uniform

HeyItsChris ! No