I can’t tell you how grateful I am for all your content, how you’re embracing AI the right way, teaching us, and being so dependable! You’re my favorite RU-vid channel!
Thanks for sharing your process. I’ve been playing around with Sudowrite for about a month and just started using the free version of Chat GPT 3.5 for brainstorming and saving my Sudowrite word allowance for actual prose. I still have a lot to learn but am very excited by the possibilities.
Actually if you read the next sentence about the POE sub, you are not restricted after X messages. You are just may not get the same performance or availability. worst case you may need to wait for availability or speed at times
These are interesting videos; thanks. I have done some writing with all of the AI-thingies that I can find, so far being ChatGPT+, Bard, Jasper, Rytr, NovelAI, Verb ai, Sudowrite, Poe: Claude+ and Claude-instant-100K ... free or 1 month of playing around. I've two videos, one about Sudowrite as it was impressive briefly, and then ChatGPT+ vs Claude. Almost, all of them go off into tangents: unknown characters, spaceships, and other kind of creative stuff ... they all need quite a bit of guidance. The only one that I was able to complete an entire screenplay (110 pages/minutes) with was ChatGPT+ over the course of several days ... not bad from idea to first draft and "someone" (ai) else does most of the typing. It kind-of-sort-of remembers what "we" were working on together in a particular named chat session. All of the others completely forget ... that alone makes ChatGPT useful; not having to start over again each day. I want to like Bard (too squirrelly) which will most likely replace Google Search; the idea of the Story Engine in Sudowrite is nice but it veers off course too much; NovelAI has a nice interface and text exporting, but it's writing is whacky; and so on.
Whats your advice for longer writing on Chatgpt? I find that it's not only short but adds parts that finish the story instead of leaving open for the next chapter
Yep. This is the biggest issue for ChatGPT and why I still recommend Sudowrite for long form fiction. Hopefully OpenAI allows you to have longer responses eventually.
@@milestrombley1466 Yes. I also tell chatgpt... something like the following, on a separate line after the scene detials.. ."Do not write after this/that. Do not add anymore to the story." Works most of the time. Before that, in the prompt, I once again let it know we are only doing this scene, or this part of a scene, or even just want one or two more paragraphs etc.
Very new to all of this soo…. So appreciate this video AND the comments. wasted 1/2 day because @claude doesn’t respond in slack. Since not familiar w slack either assumed there was something not set up correctly. Now seems it just isn’t an option for us new users Thanks again to everyone
Ah, it seems it won't be long at all before these AI tools are able to help us with sequels to existing novels, something I've been dying to see. I may experiment with dropping a novel in Claude 100k, see if it can generate a detailed outline and character sheets for a sequel, then throw that info into Sudowrite. Exciting stuff.
Yep! Although I’ll say you can still use it for sequels right now. It doesn’t need to be able to read your first book. It’s up to you to provide it that context. Because even if it can read the first book it’s going to get a lot of things wrong. So it will need plenty of adjustment anyway.
Yeah, I think some who already had access to it still do, but newcomers don't. I had access to it through someone else's workplace, but now I don't and can't get it for myself, unfortunately.
I am blown away at what Claude did to my book. Thank you But now I question.. is it legal to use those edits? And will it be detected as Ai? Discrediting me as the author? Thanks for your time
Claude still works fine for me in Slack. I subbed to Sudowrite, but I'm having difficulty getting the prompts right for the story beats. I think Sudowrite is probably better for people who already know what they want and how to articulate it, vs working with Claude in a more collaborative way. I hope they keep Claude, if not free, then at least in such a way that I can still collaborate with it on scene building
Has Claude changed recently to disallow requests for actual writing? I keep getting admonishments whenever I ask it to write or rewrite anything more substantial than a sentence or two.
claude is still working for me in two existing slack workspaces, but i tried to set up a new one (for collaborative work), and here i was able to install the claude-app, but it doesn't work there.
Also, how do you stop story engine from repeating beats in the pros. Ive found it having the same conversations 2 or 3 times in a row and thats how i ended up burning through my words.
It's not actually true that SW uses gpt4. I've had in confirmed by the devs that its main API use is 3.5 But more importantly, have you not found SE to be increby buggy when writing the prose for chapters? I've not gotten a clean pass from it without doing a lot of work trimming and reorganizing the braindump, synopsis, chapters and beats so that it doesn't get confused about what info to include and how to work it in. And even still it often insists on nonsensical, inaccurate or mixed up output
The main API in Sudowrite uses 3.5, but Story Engine uses GPT-4. I checked with them. And I'm not sure what you're considering as bugs. A certain amount of trimming and reorganizing for all of that stuff is necessary in nearly everything I've used. Story Engine is the best I've seen by far, but there will always be a need to do a lot of editing to the prompts and the output because AI doesn't always know our intent. If it's not in the prompt, it won't be in the result. A "clean pass" like you say, is unlikely to be available (yet) in any AI program. But so far, Sudowrite does a better job than ChatGPT or Claude does.
@@TheNerdyNovelist then we have gotten conflicting information from the same people :/ and I certainly don't expect perfect output. I'm used to the trimming and adjusting. I just found SE to need a massive amount of baby sitting. But it could be that I'm doing it very wrong 😝
@@MichaelMartinYapNational I'm not positive, because it doesn't show unless you've run out of words so I can't see it currently. I'd look under your account settings, especially where you can see your plan or billing.
