If anyone fancies watching my original review of the bones spf wheels, you can check it out here - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-K9lCkhVyQhs.html
@swur1z350 to anyone else wondering the same thing - I would always put one together, selecting each part. It may seem daunting but once you know what's what and how to find the right sizes and hardness you will easily be able to select the appropriate parts for your choice of terrain. Also you can select ANY deck you want this way. Sizing with a popsicle is simple with trucks (unless you prefer wide or narrow trucks which you won't know, so go for the advised size) - basically get as close to the width of the board as possible. Independent make sizes for practically every size deck or something very close. Also they are a great beginner choice due to the pro quality at decent pricing and having a truck that's 55mm tall (with the standards) let's you run bigger wheels like 56mm without risers, even bigger if you have tight trucks. Thunder and venture, aces also are the main and best companies in the order I mentioned them, with indys being no.1 in my opinion as they work on Vert, Street, everywhere, and thunders, aces and ventures are lower so don't lend themselves as well to parks and Vert unless that's your preference. 53/54mm are a good bet to start with. Not too big, not too small. Bones Reds bearings or Bronsons g3s And Bones hardcore bushings if you want to add some extra control and quality to the feel. The only thing some people get confused by is that the truck companies use different numbers to name their trucks but a graph chart thing is easily findable online. Old school shaped decks you probably want to look at getting a truck in between the sizes of the front and rear truck widths of the board. Cool shaped decks like Welcome Skateboards have a shape guide which advises the size for each shape and i find is a useful tool when looking at other brands that are similar shaped. Hope this helps someone 🙏 😊
I enjoyed this review, however I think the most important difference between the 2 wheels you reviewed has got to be their size. 60mm / 54mm is quite the massive difference, especially when the 54 are down to 53/52 already. by the way I like spitfire conical 54mm - not the conical full, the regular conical.
It's because 1. you get used to it (not riding with stiff legs helps), 2. you use riser pads / shock absorbing pads , 3. ride bigger wheels if necessary (some streets don't feel good even with 80A soft cruiser wheels in size 52mm, at that point you will HAVE to go up in wheel size and width regardless of durometer) and 4. you skate where skating is most comfortable. In some areas of the world this means taking the bike or bus to visit the skatepark, instead of cruising the city on your skateboard. Or it means cruising the bike lane or roadways, instead of the sidewalks. Especially tech street skater will ride like 52mm 100a or 99a wheels and still can very much do whatever they want. Ricta Clouds 92a 52mm wheels are a nice 'hybrid', but as said, with shock pads and hard wheels it is very possible to street skate comfortably. Honestly, I'd much rather ride Spitfire F4 Conical Fulls 52mm 101A on streets than 80a 52mm 'cruiser wheels'. The stickiness is going to ruin your day when doing tricks. And let's face it, street skating is mostly about tricks. If you just cruise through town and pop an ollie here or there, then YES definitely go with a softer cruiser wheel. But if you intend to do a lot of tricks too, soft wheels won't do you good. (Trust me, I've bought a LOT of soft wheels to find the best hybrid for streets in my area, which are truly rough.)
@@PHeMoX Hey my man, you seem like you know what you’re talking about from experience. With that being said can you please help me? Im new to skating. I have a pair of wheels for the skatepark and I really need a pair of wheels for the street because the roads around my neighborhood are rough, but I also want to be able to do tricks on my board, any suggestions?
@@ls1lando90 either bring a tool and swap wheels when you get to the park, or just train to ride and do tricks with bigger wheels. what size are your wheels? edit: I ride 54mm Conical fulls and they’re pretty beefy for flatground/street but it’s definitely more than manageable. perfect wheels for park too, picks up speed fast and they last a long time
I was a long time 54mm STF rider even tho I was skating mostly park. When I started skating vert I setup some 58mm SPFs and totally agree with everything you've said about them. During lockdown I won a contest and got a new complete for vert that had Spitfire OG Classics 60mm 99A and they actually feel more slippery than the SPFs, not sure if that's because the SPFs were flat out of the packaging and the Spitfires have the ridges, but interesting none the less. I think if I had to go back to a middle ground I would pick a 56mm STF, good amount of slide and flat spot protection but also grippy when needed.
I have 54 STFs and they are great for the concrete park and the concrete bowls and quarter pipes. But wanted to try the indoor 6’ mini ramp. Wood surface, birch I think. Would the STFs be good or would it be better to get something like a 58 SPF?
@@chriskunce3331 in my opinion, you would be fine with the 54 STFs. The park I skate with the vert is birch surface and I never saw an issue with slipping. Also imho 54 is a good middle ground size for transition learning + street. I skate my 54 STF setup for everything other than vert.
In my opinion the Spitfire Formula Four 99A Conical Fulls are a very good hybrid wheel for park and streets. The Ricta Chrome 99A Nyjahs are very good too (and they slide great too). And honestly, my Spitfire Formula Four 101A Conical Fulls do work fine in the skatepark. You just have to accept they get in a slide on any surface that's either super solid or slightly wet. I'd still pick those slippery wheels over sticky Bones wheels any time though. I've had softer Bones wheels and it never felt right. I skate on very rough streets a lot, but softer wheels didn't really work at all for tricks. I do love the Bones Rough Riders I've got for my cruiser board though. Another somewhat okey hybrid if you're not someone who does powerslides a lot are the Ricta Clouds 92A wheels. At 52mm it can be a very usable wheels for tricks. It won't do as good as the Spitfire harder wheels though in ledge grinds when it slides against the ledge (at too low speeds, but also just in general). Definitely a bit too soft for that stuff.
quick update: after actually skating the SPF myself, and a whole bunch of F4's too, I can say they are actually very different in how they feel. the spf are jarring on street, as expected, but great for slick surfaces, since they have surprisingly much grip. they do slide, but only really on smooth ground and not nearly as much as any of the F4's. the F4 slide very easily while feeling softer and more forgiving on rough ground, absorbing more vibrations. so contrary to what I said before, the size isnt the largest factor, its the formula itself. I learned this especially from my dragon formula wheels, which are down to 44mm now and still feel alot smoother on any street, than my 54mm F4's 99A, so thats something I didnt expect.
I think you're underestimating the influence of the size of the wheel and the width of the riding surface. Of course a bigger wheel will always feel more comfortable on vert. It's less about the durometer than you think.
Both are good wheels. I actually prefer formula 4 101a for skating my quarterpipe. I literally cannot do a backside pivot with the spfs bc of their size. May be due to my coping being so flush. Probably bigger coping would feel better with the bigger spf wheel im guessing. I also like how the formula 4 slide better on cement.
Nice review man, I'm skating formula fours at the moment 99a and I love them. Really want to try the 101s though as I mainly skate my local which is concrete. Seem to be impossible to get hold of in the UK at the moment though
do you find the 99a are sticky or easy to slide with? im hoping to be able to slide out of my 180s etc fairly easily and not sure if i need to go with 101 or if 99 will work
I had the bones stf 103a and I would shred street 24/7 miles and miles a day. The harder wheels helps me power slide and for my aggressive style they were awesome
I skate street a lot and where I live the ground is super rough and I’ve always felt that I can keep speed going with the spitfires rather than the bones stf’s. I’m skating the spitfire Jamie foy conical full 52 mm and they are the best wheels I’ve skated so far. I have tried the bones easy streets which are similar to the spitfire 99a but spitfires are still louder and faster
I use 52mm 99a stf to skate street and 58mm spf 81b in my local concrete park in transition/bowl. Formula 4s are also great but I just prefer Bones wheels.
I love spitfire but the draw back is they don't take well to spacers.its very very hard to find spacers that work without binding.most bones work very well with most spacers.
I’ve only ridden Spitfire Formula 4s. But will absolutely try a Bones SPF wheel at some point. I might get a pair soon just to not only feel them but also experience what they sound like. I imagine such a hard wheel has both a satisfying rolling sound as well as a click on landing.
Lewis Farley think you said so in an earlier vid yeah? Back when you started skating vert more or something some such. Enjoy your vids friend. High quality stuff.
@@RikRiorik Yep in the first review of the wheels. I probably should have mentioned it in this one too because I've had a few gnarly slams because of it 😂. Thanks mate, means a lot!
7:07 no pads and 60mm wheels, how can you ride that? My maximum wheels size was 56mm and I needed pads to avoid wheel bite. I'm on Indy Forged Hollow 149 (a bit lower than standard), and I need pads with 54mm wheels. I'll try Bones SPF 81b 56mm next.
Hey Bro im fairly knew to skating, 2 weeks in and I really need a good street skating wheel because the roads in my neighborhood are rough. What can you recommend me that will be good on rough terrain but not too big where I can still learn how to do tricks? Please help!
I doubt it . Skateboard wheels HAVE to bounce to be fast, regardless of hardness . Fork truck tyres dont need that quality at all . I worked in a urethane casting plant that made them ; they were made of cheap resin, miles away from the resin used form our wheels . In the back of the factory i found some old wheels left from the 1970s ; i had some of the same as a child and thought they were, at best, mediocre .
@@jimmytgoose476 Looking at an old wheel I have right now on a board I had in the early 90's...51mm Endangered series..has a picture of a Right Whale on the wheel dark blue wheel with white lettering..Says, "forklift compound the most kick ass formula in skateboarding guaranteed" on the inside of the wheel...they bounce a little bit not totally rock hard.
Its going to be marketing bs mate ; the early 90s was grim for it (sub 50mm wheels, wheels with one bearing, decks that broke when you looked at them....and clown trousers!) . The requirements of a fork lift truck tyre and a skateboard wheel are totally different ; if they really were made out of exactly the same shit you would have taken them off after 15 minutes and thrown them away . All good wheels bounce, regardless of how hard they are ; get one of those cheap-ass toy boards and try to bounce the wheels ; splat . Any of the quality brands bounce, its that rebounding that makes them fast (don't ask me how that works but its true ) .
Depends on preference brother I had been skating spit formula 4 53 and I just copped 53 mm stf 99a bones and they’re great way more board feel but definitely more slippery but all in all worth the money
@@LewisFarley ok cus i just took em for a spin outside my house on ashpalt concrete type surfave and.fell on my ass lol.. im used to 51 50mm darkstar 97a
@@jayo5858 99A is a good durometer/hardness for street wheels. between 52-56mm is also a good wheel size for street, that part is just preference really.
H,i ive seen you at Holmfirth skatepark. I skate both transition and street and flatground. What wheels would you reccomend for Holmfirth skatepark,Bones or spitfire? Im thinking about Spitfire F4 radials but what do you think?
Hey man, for park I really love bones more than spitfire, just feel smoother imo. If you're skating rough street ground too then I would say just go for the Spitfire F4's and you'll be happy.
If I may offer some constructive criticism... I have watched quite a lot of review videos on skateboarding wheels, and I felt this one was rather lacking in valuable advice. Here, you were comparing apples and oranges. Your video title implies a comparison between the compositions of 2 different brands, so that should be between 2 similar wheels, of similar shape, size, and function. But you were comparing entirely different aspects, so it's kinda obvious and unhelpful. Wishing you success though!
@@LewisFarley I’m planning on getting a quasi deck idk any others and I don’t know what other parts I need like the truck and stuff I need to know to put together my own skateboard if you can reply what truck I should get what thing for the wheels I NEED SOFT (the penny wheels are good for skateboard) my dreams are to start skateboarding but I need a skateboard first and I want to start off not doing tricks just cruising @Lewis Farley
I would never buy spitfires . I was given a set for my birthday and was stunned by how totally mediocre they were . Brand new, out of the wrapper , fresh bearings and they were significantly slower than my mini logos ; they felt dead . I used them for one afternoon and fucked them off sharpish . SPFs for me ever since .
Iam sorry, you are great at skating, but how do you not know about spitfire formula fours? You literally have to try to flatspot them if you want to flatspot them, doing like a little revert or little power slide on smooth ground is gonna do nothing. Spitfires are better than blend cause they slide better, get less flatspots, and just feel better. Bones in my opinion feel like plastic or just cheap and weird
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