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The Bible Got the Value of Pi Wrong - Neil deGrasse Tyson 

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@genebender5028
@genebender5028 28 дней назад
A cubit was an approximate dimension. Historically the distance from the elbow to the middle finger tip. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.
@kane3282
@kane3282 28 дней назад
Get given a book on how to save your soul and can't get over the fact that they didn't measure a circle to one decimal place
@gango23
@gango23 28 дней назад
And the priest shall cause her to swear, and shall say unto the woman: 'If no man have lain with thee, and if thou hast not gone aside to uncleanness, being under thy husband, be thou free from this water of bitterness that causeth the curse; but if thou hast gone aside, being under thy husband, and if thou be defiled, and some man have lain with thee besides thy husband--then the priest shall cause the woman to swear with the oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman--the Lord make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the Lord doth make thy thigh to fall away, and thy belly to swell; and this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, and make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to fall away'; and the woman shall say: 'Amen, Amen.' And the priest shall write these curses in a scroll, and he shall blot them out into the water of bitterness. And he shall make the woman drink the water of bitterness that causeth the curse; and the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her and become bitter. - Numbers 5:19-24
@memelord2208
@memelord2208 26 дней назад
⁠@@gango23What are you saying here, don’t commit adultery?
@gango23
@gango23 26 дней назад
@@memelord2208 The bible contains many passages like this, what appears to be a primitive understand of how the world works. If you don't think this part is inspired by god then what is it doing in the bible? If you do think it is derived from god then do you think this spell actually works/worked?
@Mad_Man888
@Mad_Man888 9 часов назад
That shows the authenticity of a book claiming to know the highest truth and getting a simple value of pi wrong.
@PLUMPARR
@PLUMPARR 28 дней назад
You don’t read the Bible to get good at math
@gango23
@gango23 28 дней назад
Or better at anything really.
@PLUMPARR
@PLUMPARR 28 дней назад
@@gango23 you read the Bible to strengthen your relationship with God
@AndroidHarris
@AndroidHarris 12 часов назад
​@@PLUMPARRyour non existant relationship with a jealous tyrant that made you wrong.
@redneckcoder
@redneckcoder 28 дней назад
Or the around measurement was inside and diameter was to the outside of a border.
@thundermug6538
@thundermug6538 19 дней назад
I looked into this too. This is the trick to the solution of the problem. A more careful reading would benefit everyone. Good answer.
@lukecronje619
@lukecronje619 28 дней назад
You said they didn't use fractions.. so they were right.
@zacharynelson5731
@zacharynelson5731 28 дней назад
Or it’s not a perfectly circular pond 🙄
@dncg4040
@dncg4040 28 дней назад
30 cubits around in the center, and 10 cubits across would mean that the pot is a few centimeters thick lol...Tyson eats his foot once again.
@memelord2208
@memelord2208 26 дней назад
That’s a good point, I didn’t even think about how the thickness of a vessel that size would effect the equation
@absolstoryoffiction6615
@absolstoryoffiction6615 2 дня назад
Depends on where you measure. Inner or outer ring of the pond???
@calvinwilburn2619
@calvinwilburn2619 19 дней назад
Third, we should consider 1 Kings 7:26, which states that this cylindrical vessel “was a handbreadth thick.” Since the diameter is given from “brim to brim” (verse 23), the 10 cubits is referring to the outer diameter (which includes the handbreadth thickness of the rim). However, the circumference may well refer to the inner circle (as this is more representative of the pool of water inside the cylinder), which excludes the handbreadth. So, even if we take the outer diameter to be exactly 10 cubits, the inner diameter would be smaller. A handbreadth is roughly 1/4 of a cubit; so, the inner diameter would be 10 cubits - (0.25 x 2) cubits = 9.50 cubits. This means the inner circumference would be 29.845. . . cubits, which rounds up to 30 cubits (not 31 cubits)
@HopDavid
@HopDavid 28 дней назад
Neil likes to say two basketballs can fit side by side through a hoop and that a hoop is four times the area. A basketball is 9.5 inches in diameter and a hoop is 18 inches. Area is a little less than 3.6 times. So Neil wants to make a big deal out of the Bible rounding 3.14 to 3? The bloated bloviator remains oblivious to his own flubs.
@johnirwin7979
@johnirwin7979 28 дней назад
If you accept 31 as close enough, then you would have to accept 10 as a close approximation of 9.549, so they didn't get it wrong. (Of course, both values are approximations, as any intelligent person would know.)
@reynaldosepulveda1126
@reynaldosepulveda1126 28 дней назад
InsightMolten Sea (Copper Sea) MOLTEN SEA (COPPER SEA) When the temple was constructed during Solomon’s reign, a “molten [that is, cast or poured] sea” replaced the portable basin of copper used with the earlier tabernacle. (Ex 30:17-21; 1Ki 7:23, 40, 44) Built by Hiram, a Hebrew-Phoenician, it was evidently called a “sea” because of the large quantity of water it could contain. This vessel, also of copper, was “ten cubits [4.5 m; 14.6 ft] from its one brim to its other brim, circular all around; and its height was five cubits [c. 2.2 m; 7.3 ft], and it took a line of thirty cubits [13.4 m; 44 ft] to circle all around it.”​-1Ki 7:23. Circumference. The circumference of 30 cubits is evidently a round figure, for more precisely it would be 31.4 cubits. In this regard, Christopher Wordsworth quotes a certain Rennie as making this interesting observation: “Up to the time of Archimedes [third century B.C.E.], the circumference of a circle was always measured in straight lines by the radius; and Hiram would naturally describe the sea as thirty cubits round, measuring it, as was then invariably the practice, by its radius, or semi-diameter, of five cubits, which being applied six times round the perimeter, or ‘brim,’ would give the thirty cubits stated. There was evidently no intention in the passage but to give the dimensions of the Sea, in the usual language that every one would understand, measuring the circumference in the way in which all skilled workers, like Hiram, did measure circles at that time. He, of course, must however have known perfectly well, that as the polygonal hexagon thus inscribed by the radius was thirty cubits, the actual curved circumference would be somewhat more.” (Notes on the King James Version, London, 1887) Thus, it appears that the ratio of three to one (that is, the circumference being three times the diameter) was a customary way of stating matters, intended to be understood as only approximate.
@Blue8474
@Blue8474 28 дней назад
Great explanation 🙌🏼
@jeremiahtatro4456
@jeremiahtatro4456 19 дней назад
being round on all sides describes an ellipse too...
@Uncivil_Dreams
@Uncivil_Dreams 28 дней назад
the bible is not a fkn math textbook🤦🏼
@Stabby_Dave
@Stabby_Dave 19 дней назад
Exactly - it's a work of fiction.
@saintemovie
@saintemovie 28 дней назад
problem with ancient ppl not having understanding of advanced sursd and it is possible that they just estimatted
@metgath
@metgath 28 дней назад
Except that my sister and her husband believe that every word in the bible is inspired by god and therefore 100% true and infallible. "If there are any errors then the whole thing is a lie." That last part is in quotes because they actually told me that when asked. just a small quote from the conversation. Also it isn't "advanced" unless advanced is almost 3,300 years old. Pi was discovered in approximately 250 BC.
@noahclay8632
@noahclay8632 28 дней назад
​@@metgathwhen we talked about the infallibility of scripture we do not include rounding errors such as this or with them saying that Jesus fed 2000 men. We also do this all the time today when we say we drink a cup of water it could be the 8oz, 6oz, 12oz, 10oz but we still drank a cup of water. Also if you were to measure a boul and it is 3.1415in you would just say it's 3in.
@metgath
@metgath 28 дней назад
@@noahclay8632 Actually, If I were to measure a bowl and see that it was more than 3 inches but less that 3.25 I'd say that it was around or approximately 3 inches. That would indicate that the number isn't exact. If I said that it was 3 inches then to my best measurement it is exactly 3 inches. This is a difference of 30 or 31 in the circumference. That is were the 3 vs 3.14159 comes from. We get that from working the math backward. The circumference is given as a whole number of 30. a whole number of 31 would result in 3.1 for Pi. The math simply doesn't work for a circumference of 30 and diameter of 10. What is meant by a cup is very clear based on the context. If they ask for a cup of water to drink then they don't really care how much as long as they get a drinking cup mostly filled. If a recipe asks for a cup then, in the US where I live, it is 8oz not 6, 10, or 12.
@saintemovie
@saintemovie 28 дней назад
@@metgath you realise we read it in context and not every thing is litteral we have to inteprete it in it's context and its language bc ur sis says smth not all historians back it
@saintemovie
@saintemovie 28 дней назад
@@metgath and 1 kings was 3490 yrs bc
@billmcleangunsmith
@billmcleangunsmith 19 дней назад
Says, "They got it wrong." Also says, "Decimals weren't a thing back then." You can't get pi accurate without decimals which weren't a thing. So,... they got as close as they could with what they had. Tyson is so arrogant that he doesn't even realize when he debunks his own debunking.
@KennethHarv659
@KennethHarv659 19 дней назад
It is not "One Kings 7", it is "First Kings 7" and just like a "foot" (12 inches) was derived from the length of the kings foot, a cubit was far more of an estimation. Although the cubit was regarded as a standard measure, its length varies in different sources-ranging from 17½ to 25 inches. If we go to The Amplified Bible, we find that its translators used the 18-inch measurement for the cubit, as we see in these verses describing the dimensions of Noah's ark. OK, I have to say it. If you want to know the value of PIE, just weigh that man.haha
@The-Light1
@The-Light1 27 дней назад
What a plant pot
@briankendall1978
@briankendall1978 19 дней назад
So that invalidates the entire Bible and the Christian faith is untrue?
@AndroidHarris
@AndroidHarris 12 часов назад
Yes easy
@fabbourdage1356
@fabbourdage1356 28 дней назад
When your ego goes To try to discridite God !!
@jessedunn9835
@jessedunn9835 28 дней назад
So the Bible didnt get it wrong. They correctly described it. Neal imagined they messed up pie becouse he is kinda a jackass who ignored they where not talking about pie. At all.
@ricfleming2584
@ricfleming2584 20 дней назад
Whoa!!! His math is wrong and hes a damn scientist! BUT, hes going after a flipping scribe? He should have said 31.4 cubits if he wants to be mister math.
@Bekindtoeachother96
@Bekindtoeachother96 28 дней назад
Maybe it was like a four-leaf clover that's round on all sides
@djforjesuschrist2384
@djforjesuschrist2384 28 дней назад
Flesh is flesh and spirit is of spirit
@Skyy-avari
@Skyy-avari 26 дней назад
PI is not an equation, it cant be solved, there is no definitive answer, so its crap. !!!
@photografr7
@photografr7 28 дней назад
God was wrong?!?
@memelord2208
@memelord2208 26 дней назад
Here’s two things to keep in mind. It says “round all about” but it does not say “it was a perfect circle”. Ovals are round on all sides, perhaps it was a circular tub, not a perfect circle tub. This next point is a bit weaker and more guessing, but a cubit isn’t like a foot or an inch. It’s based on the distance from your elbow to the tip of your finger. If it was a perfect circle tub, maybe one guy measured the distance across and another guy measured the distance around. Go find anyone near by with a similar height to you. Your arms may be a similar length, but more than likely not the exact same length. So if you both measured 30 cubits, you’d both have a different distance. That would mess with this equation in the ways Neil is discussing
@Tsunamiash80
@Tsunamiash80 28 дней назад
I got news for you... the bible got a few things wrong.
@zacharynelson5731
@zacharynelson5731 28 дней назад
Only if you’re incredibly pedantic and militantly contrarian.
@GWzzrd
@GWzzrd 28 дней назад
I'd love to hear this ..
@amandaaniicoleee
@amandaaniicoleee 28 дней назад
Interesting 🤔 care to explain
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