The big difference little cassette deck belts can make 

how some cassette players are constructed makes it very difficult yo try the "Bag-O-Belts" approach, because you need to disassemble and reassemble the whole thing. Especialy that the symptoms of a belt that is a bit too small and a bit too big can be exactly the same. And then you lose a snap ring or a spring and what was supposed to be an hour of repair turns into a week of search.

i would imagine vwestlife does it as a hobby only for fun which is what it should be (power to those who do make it their job)

Well said!

I wouldn't mind at all if they made a Patreon

I have limited ads on my videos, and would rather have none at all. But RU-vid doesn't tend to recommend videos without monetisation, so particularly for small-medium channels, it's a necessary evil. I know others feel the same, ads are not done for love of the money, believe me.

I’ve never understood why people use patreon. If someone wants to make a RU-vid video then great, but I’m not gonna pay you to do it.

Yep, and there where at least a few of these tapes from Tobacco companies given as a promotional with a carton of smokes, my dad(partly died from smoking) had a Best of Marlboro County Music tape in his farm truck for years in the 80's.

In the 1970s you could get the cassette recorder for free if you collected enough Benson & Hedges certificates. I have a scan of the 1973 catalogue and it was 12150 for a National Panasonic. It seems you got 5 in a pack so you would need to have smoked a lot to get one. The only free cassettes I have were pop compilations which you could get by sending in wrappers from McVities biscuits. Nowadays someone would probably claim that was encouraging children to eat unhealthily.

@@MrDuncl Marlboro at least here in the USA did the same in the 80's and 90's with their Miles program, it was 2 miles a pack if I remember correctly, as my dad had me help cut them out as a kid, and one of the rewards was a Marlboro branded portable tape deck with AM/FM radio, and later on a portable branded CD player(sorry can't remember who actually made them for Marlboro), I remember it taking thousands of Miles to get anything, even a stupid T-shirt. These days it makes me 🤢 thinking about how many people including my dad they conned, and helped kill with these promotional schemes/scams!!

@@CommodoreFan64 I have just had a better look at the catalogue. The cheapest items (like a set of candles) were around 300 certificates. The most expensive appears to be a Sharp portable TV at 33000 certificates. That is over 100000 cigarettes. The most ironic is a bicycle at 21800 certificates. Perhaps the fit looking pretty girl riding it is the smokers girlfriend. Of course back then if you switched to a pipe, girls would follow you like the Pied Piper ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uVTFDhue6pQ.html In advertising times have changed. In the U.K. most Formula 1 teams were sponsored by Tobacco companies yet it was very controversial (with TV companies saying they wouldn't show it) when a condom manufacturer said it was going to sponsor a team.

Oddity archive featured the ad for that on one of his episodes!

@@joshm264 Thank you for the tip on that channel! I didn't find that episode, but I subbed for the Magnavox Odyssey II video.

@@TechGorilla1987 here is AD - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Zifcn4jXb-g.html "5 packs a day for a while" Yeah, right.

So true. But what is a good quality belt these days? Arent't the expensive belts simply taken out of the "five dollar bunch" and marked up to appear "premium"?

@@jmi5969 Not hardly. And you can buy those from some sources and they make a heck of a difference. Even if they are, they are the ones that passed a "quality control" and dont have a deviation in thickness sometimes multiple times over the belts length. Watch the video and you will understand. I service 80-100 decks a year, and I make evey effort to keep the origionals because of this. If I have to buy belts, I always check the WAF afterwards. But you are probably right to one point, there are probably a good many people on fleabay doing exactly what you say. Another reason to stick to reputable sellers.

@@jmi5969 or cheaper And every batch made is different,,,, lets say you buy from xxx and later buy from xxx a year later their no guarantee that they will be the same quality. is their a vender that actually make belts? or has quality control from China.

Nice a new comment and about Vwestlife hope you have a nice day AMDRADEONRUBY

I wonder if that could be replaced or made heavier and balanced.

@@craigjensen6853 Not everybody is an audiophile. Keep that in mind.

I found an obituary for a Michelle Boule who died in Florida in 2017 at the age of 50, which sounds about right, because when she was on WFMU 20+ years ago she talked about previously being a school teacher in Kansas City. Still far too young to pass away.

Can you measure the w/f? 🙃

@@steffenbrix hmm. Theres a software w/f tool for pc isn't there? I'll have to look into that, been too busy with work to really mess with it anymore.

See my Incorrect Music Archive videos.

That's usually the case but I had a pioneer ct-S405 where the drive belt did impact W&F. Depends on the mech design.

Where did you order your belts and pinch rollers? I have a Aiwa AD-WX777 that I want to delve into.

Hello, don't know if you still use the account or not but I'm currently going through my own personal tape craze haha. Would be interested in buying the tapes/paying for shipping if you feel like selling them

I couldn't find it, myself.

@@Selrisitai Lonesome, Lonesome George Jones by Queenie Montgomery. Edit: I just noticed its on Spotify as well lol

Starting my kx1200u now.

Did the size of the belt affect your owe and stutter?

TMI

It's all laugh and giggles... until dad beats you up with a pair of old rusty jumper cables

@@yanikkunitsin1466 again TMI, consult a mental health professional.

@@rillloudmother Jee-whiz, settle down ma boy... It's just but an old rusty meme

Surprising come up with something to give constant low wow & flutter, no matter the size of the belt!

Ohhhh yes indeed square belts that vary in thickness as it turns adds the need for torque to move it, especially the tiny pulley on the motor. The governor circuit senses the slow down and compensates for the additional load. Now that it is past the thicker portion the governor is now sending the compensated power and now it is too much so again the governor compensates and by that time the thick portion is again going over the pulley. It makes it a vigorous endless cycle and on top of that the mass of the capstan is nothing compared to the very heavy capstans in the time of the GOLDEN age of cassette in its heyday. It's the same with the flat capstan belts (thickness of the flat portion as well as the width of the flat belt the result will be wow and flutter. Inconsistent thickness and inconsistencies in the width will cause speed fluctuations (wow and flutter). They don't put the time and workmanship into anything anymore with near about anything, from your bread toaster all the way to your vehicle. Nothing is made to last a lifetime anymore.

Because the tanashin was originally designed for boomboxes, so the flywheel is rather flimsy. All the old school hi-fi decks had around 3" cast iron flywheel smoothing out the the speed inconsistencies. That's why so many of them still sound alright even with old worn belts and bad lubrication.

Yes, they played it.

Depends on how badly you want to quit in the first place

I'd think a head cleaning tape would be required after playing it? The smell of burning plastic and tape might also be a bit more effective than you'd at first think. Oh, wait I think I may have misread your comment? (Just kidding!).

Interesting. what did you get the wow and flutter down to? how would cost for a flat belt?

@@musicstevecom Depends on the deck. Should be able to achieve close to original spec if motor is good. DM me I'll send you some info.

I think that flywheel is just too light for a flywheel)

This new cassette deck features not one but 2 low end mechanism, I thing they're the same than in chinese portable players, with a small engine and a flywheel made out of a cut steel sheet, that's nowhere near the older cassettes providing flywheels made out with a lathe. I do really prefer to rely on an older model, even if I have to fix it (belts and capacitors)

These mechanisms are made by CSG and do not share any parts with those used in portable cassette players.

You're shooting for the moon! 0.008% WRMS is a big ask on ANY deck! BTW, nice job Kevin.

There is no belt kit. You need to order the belts individually.

That's probably due to a chipped gear or a spring that is causing a gear not to engage fully.

@@vwestlife Thanks, I think it’d still be useful to see a demo, even if it’s irreparable.

@@StevenSmyth There's a great techmoan video about choosing out a walkman if you're just getting into the hobby, and part of the video talks about what it sounds like you're describing. Basically, if it's a "DD" or "direct drive" model of walkman, a plastic cog is snapped. Here's a timestamped link to that video that might help: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-A9wT2Y4W-T0.html

@@Atticore I’ve seen that one and it is great, but I’m working with all in one stereos with dual cassette decks, receiver and recorded player. Id like the cassette section to work.

@@StevenSmyth Damaged gears aren't irrepairable. While i wouldn't advise trying to glue back together a damaged gear, you can easily make a 1 sided mould with 2k kneading silicone and cast a copy of the gear from epoxy. If you're missing a tooth, you can make a partial mould of a short run of teeth and use it to recreate a tooth, and it doesn't really matter from what, ca glue and baking soda can be a very quick way, then copy the whole gear again.

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Good Idea, I think that would work, since the new belts are to tight and old ones to looses , would have to have to make slots for the 3 motor bolt holes and could even better add a fine adjusting bolt to move it in/out later if it works , I have a extra one I could try it on w the Pioneer ct-f900 has a lot of room to do it. I wish I had a mill (machine shop)😁

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