downward firing gives better sound effect when the sound hit the surface. This is my subjective opinion. But samsung book edge 4 has better downward firing speaker
@@Techtablets it's their Budget range laptop. They are keeping upward firing designs for zenbooks and proart series. It's the same with most manufacturers now.
Thanks for sharing and watching. Yes I try to cover everything and also what I didn’t like about it or any problems. That’s what reviews should also cover not just 100% positive things.
@@Techtablets agreed, that's why you are my go-to reviewer. At first, I will search it on your channel, if I can't find then I will go to other channels.
hot take: many notebooks suck not because of x86 chips but because of bad cooling with terrible fan curves and bad firmware with broken sleep states, bad power profiles etc and im sure manufacturers will manage to fuck this up with ARM chips as well
@@fireWireX4 I hate Intel however he is right on point. We live in rotten capitalism and everything that is not super high end will end up sucking hard, including laptops. So if you don't shell a fortune on something on average you get crap. The initial review samples are not crap of course, they will be super high end samples. It will start to creep slowly as competition grows, the first thing to happen to divert money to shareholders is to lower product quality to the bare minimum acceptable to average consumers. This works because only those that shell a lot of money are willing to reseach first. So you sell crap but present your super high end and they think they bought something good. While the pros that shell for super high end still get super high end and don't complain. This works for many different products, take nVidia for example: 4090 good overpriced card, 4060 cheap overpriced piece of shit, both are overpriced, but most 4060 owners dont think so because the super high end is much more expensive, so they think they have a good priced midrange gpu.
2024 is an amazing year for laptop processors. Besides the Snapdragon X Elite, we have the new Zen 5 APUs with RDNA 3.5 iGPUs, and well as the new Intel Lunar lake chips with Xe2 iGPUs.
You are right those keycaps are a nightmare. I had a client that was pushing 60 and she had to return the hp laptop because of the silver keycaps. On laptops I think black with backlit keycaps are the best.
Hopefully, they will fix the SSD heat, as that will age the storage much faster than it should. A design flaw and early adopters may end up stuck with a machine that has issues.
I'm sure they will add a thick heatsink and fix that. It's not hard. But it was odd to see it had no form of cooling even if it's not a super fast PCIe 4.0 drive.
Good job doing a thorough review as usual. Think Im more excited about the upcoming Lunar Lake setup which will give native 60fps 1080p AAA gaming without having to worry about finding native support for Arm. Have a feeling this will be the constant theme when getting this laptop; it willl always be, is there native Arm support? if not, then we are getting performance that's 3 years behind. Witcher 3 at 720p 30fps is just woeful. As for AI, it's just a matter of time before NVidia release AI implementation to existing RTX dGpus. When that happens 40 Tops will be a joke. Longer battery life is a big plus, but if that only applies to when doing youtube viewing and light browsing, i can get that by using my ipad/tablet. In order for new hardware to succeed, you need a killer app. Apple on arm is successful because the Apple ecosystem is that killer app. AI functionality is being trumpeted here as the sine quo non of windows pc. Well, not quite. It is not doing anything new here that is not already done better on existing and upcoming x86 platforms. With that said, have to give thumbs up to Microsoft marketing this time around, big improvement over previous iterations of windows on Arm. But ultimately, AI, Copilot reality here doesn't live up to the hype.
they are a failed project that even it their current state cant compete in power consumption the only competition you will see is a race to the bottom here, where intel will try to not sink, but it will they dont have a arm plan b, all they have is power hungry old intel cpu architectures now the fight is amd arm, nvidia arm, qualcomm and broadcom arm socs and cpus
Excellent review. As always. Hoping there will be a linux tablet. Oled 3k 10 - 13 inch . 4k would be even nicer, I like overkill. Second ssd slot woud be great.
Man this decade has been so nice for laptops - arm chips, OLED, 120hz, virtually all touchpads are really good with Windows precision, and keyboards are very decent nowadays as well.
Thank you for this awesome detailed review!! Would you recommend this laptop for engineering students (specifically computer engineering)? or basically software development?
You are great as always. I've reviewed the Galaxy Book 4 Edge 14" and I had similar issues with gaming. How did you get Copilot to work? It is not appearing on my laptop, nor Recall. I have Cocreate, live subtitles and webcam improvements with AI.
I want to review that new ARM Galaxy book with the 2 core turbo boost X Elite that can do 2800 single core score in Geekbench 6. Would be a bit better than this models speed.
@@Techtablets CUrious which region did you choose when starting the Asus? With Spain enabled, I do not have Copilot, and it happens the same to Germans
Around 2-3 hours battery backup gain over an Intel / AMD laptops is kinda depressing honestly. I was expecting an all day battery life. Also, kinda sad to see Linux could not be run on this, but I am hopeful that will be possible soon.
@@Techtablets True, the battery time jump is significant. Thing is, I kept reading stuff like dell xps 13 with snapdragon is going to give 26 hours battery, and so on. Expectations were a bit too high. But then again, the high res oled screen could be the one to actually blame in this case. With a 1080p non-oled display, we might actually get all day battery life.
Thanks for sharing the single core performance. The other "reviewers" went out off their way to not mention it at all cost... and now that we can see it I know why. Battery life is good though, cannot take that away from the product but the app transition is going to take a while.. so maybe we by gen 2-3, software wise, things are more practical.
That battery life result is disappointing. Looks like only the X Elite can match Apple M3 in performance, but then it falls quite short in efficiency. Still, I would be so happy with an X Plus Windows laptop that matches Macbook Air M1 in battery life and performance.
I enjoyed your review. Its unfortunate that they aren't marketing a 32G version for memory. With no way to expand memory 16G is a no go for use with CAD and program development.
My M1 Air has a 50wH battery (that has degraded to 91%) and it will easily go for well over 10 hours. The battery life is honestly a big disappointment since that was supposed to be the big (perhaps only) selling point of Snapdragon. So there's really no big advantage over an AMD or Intel chip, but there are some massive drawbacks. At least it's better than previous Windows ARM attempts.
in general, as a first time product, is quite decent, yes, if you read the comments, no one is being negative, it doesnt look as a bad product at all, future generations will be interesting
Great review. Out of curiosity can you test RU-vid 8k60 playback decoding? I know it's not an 8K panel. 👀👀 Also does it support 4K120 HDR output to an external monitor? (Not for gaming)
@@akyhne thx but that's not always true though since companies are allowed to support only part of the hdmi 2.1 spec but still call the port 2.1 for marketing. Samsung's Galaxy Edge arm laptop for example only supports 4k60 from its hdmi 2.1* port.
thanks for detailed review, one issue with intel/AMD apus is they can't handle dual display 4k with 120hertz it gets limited to 4k/60hertz, I wonder if the X-elite can handle this ? since 120hertz is much healthier for eye sight then 60hertz is.
I have the Asus Zenbook Duo 2024. since March The second screen failed. It's already spent 2 weeks awaiting undisclosed parts with Asus's repair partner in the UK. The RMA process and communication has been dreadful. I'd put a hold on buying any Asus products until they improve their customer and RMA processes. This is coming from a loyal Asus customer here. PS Great review and attention to detail as always!
Oh that's terrible! Thanks for letting us know so it jist failed no reason at all? Sounds like a ribbon cable or something must have failed not good at all and very disappointing plus the RMA process.
@Techtablets the latest reply today from Asus: "Hello Francis, Thank you for your response. The unit was sent in with damage on the bottom case and the damage has also impacted the mainboard and the OLED module. I have emailed the repair centre to push this repair forward. I hope this helps. If you have any further questions, please do let me know. Kind Regards, Michael_W" It was perfect when handed over. This is now a common experience to blame the customer and not honour the warranty and attempt to charge. I've already contacted Chris Walker the UK Marketing Director. It's sad to see such atrocious service. It's practically fraudulent. Have you seen the recent video content from @Gamers Nexus? It failed for no reason at all, some internal defect in the second screen.
It's a fine review but I would expect more from someone like you. In my opinion benchmark comparisons & charts are missing as well as a decent battery test
i wish you tested davinci resolve instead adobe premier pro since there is beta version of resolve that supported by snapdragon x elite which would have showed what hardware is capable of in video editing
Thanks for review, NGL this battery life is not good enough to tempt me. Will wait for incoming Intel and AMD and see how they pan out. Qualcomm really needed to push these out earlier (although hold up may have been on Windows end I guess).
Lol are you delusional? You will get 3-4 hours less in intel or amd laptop in the same config and same set of tests Next time use your brain before you comment
I have to agree. 10 hours of reported battery life is totally underwhelming. I've seen the latest intel and amd laptops easily surpass that. I'm very disappointed.
A very similar build laptop with 16GB is from Intel at $1k. An M3 Air is $1.6k. Qualcomm undercutting Apple but definitely not Windows laptops. Applications almost not a problem with Arm chips nowadays except x86/PC gaming. If there is a niche for this, it's business/travel laptop than can also do Arm/smartphone gaming very well. I'd expect the Microsoft Store to finally become more useful. Nice if you could test some Arm games like Genshin or Diablo Immortal.
Apple, Intel and AMD have all recently been discounting, so the price of the M3 MB Air is far from what you can get it for. I have seen £200-300 off for 16GB/512GB MB Air M3 on Amazon. It is very close to the Vivobook and undercutting some of the other X-Elite chips. Also, big discounts on the M3 MB Pro 14, around £300.
Spot on my own thinking there if you don't game then it's good, a good 300-400 USD cheaper and better battery life with Ultra 9 185H performance CPU wise. I will see if this has interest I might work on a gaming test with some native games. Plus test if my eGPU RTX 4090 will even work.
Oh and yes everything seems to run it's just a matter of if the hardware acceleration will work for GPU tasks like CAD and video editing as Adobe for my video editor works fine with ARM but no hardware acceleration for encoding. It will come eventually it's just a matter of time.
@@Techtablets Other reviewers talk about problems with games D4 etc. It looks like Prism is crap. If x86 soft will not work properly ARM will fail. IMHO. So waiting for MS next steps.
It is very pity you have not compared captions. Of course YT has translation into many many languages, much more then Copilot but accuracy would be interesting.
Great review! I agree with you on that gaming performance on x86 emulation is not good, but also it seems there's 4 different versions of the Snapdragon X Elite, and the one in this laptop is at the very bottom of the list (the CPU cores don't boost at all, and neither does the GPU.) Qualcomm should be more clear about this in their marketing materials.
@@williamcopeland2617 Mobile CPUs are good enough for daily tasks, since years. Everybody know that. Question is: For which software do I need more power? For me: Foto editing and resolve. Foto editing isnt optimized whatever software you choose. Resolve is in terms of Quick sync or just raw GPU power. My hope is I can get rid of my hated MBA M1 16GB - but it is unbeatable for the price! Yes sounds crazy, I know. I paid 1000€ (3 days old). No other NB can give me that smoothness while editing and exporting.
21:11 I wonder if these image queries are pre-generated, i saw another video of a person also reviewing this laptop and drawing a house on a hill and getting those 2 exact images. Although I will say the oil painting was different from the one on his unit
Seems to me like when it's running a program that's designed to be native on ARM, the performance is *almost* equivalent to an intel or amd chip from a recent generation, but with slightly worse thermal performance, and when it's emulating it ends up significantly inferior. Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely glad that there's more competition going on, but everybody was promising either significant speed boosts or massive improvements in battery life and thermals, and the result is just... not that. It feels less like a revolutionary new thing and more like when Intel started making their own graphics cards: great to have a third player instead of just two teams getting complacent, but if it doesn't do anything *better* then the only reason to get one is if it's cheaper.
you pointed out something important, we cannot identify an ".exe" architecture without using a 3rd party PEHeader reader...Windows should make this built-in to their file properties
Looking forward to some E-GPU reviews to see if the Adreno can be replaced in an ARM Native environment like Unreal Editor. We know whereabout the SoC's priced, and the first wave of Windows ARM laptops cost way too much... I'll wait for Zen 5...
@@Techtablets Thank you so much! I was hoping for more driver support (all around from the advertisement campaign) , but it looks like I'll be choosing between Zen 5 and Lunar Lake for my next work PC.
Im very interested how this performs on linux,(battery life and performance and software support) Most linux distributions should have built packages for arm64 so its should in theory be a better match than windows.
well, i wouldnt expect a big change, keep in mind windows is arm native here, only the apps and programms added later migth not be arm native, so the impact would be very specific and only noticeable in games bwcause under most common workloads i bet it wouldnt be noticeable
Well windows shwos an external GPU but no Nvidia drivers for ARM It seems. Maybe an external AMD or Intel GPU would work if there are ARM drivers for them?
Much ado about very little. This is definitely not as impressive as I was thinking and it would not be my first pick if I was going for a windows laptop.
Glad to see improvements but it's double the price of a macair m1, and doubt it has battery life or performance. Also apple has rosetta for x86 translation thats superior. Would like to see improvements but for now have a windows for gpu/work/gaming and mac for on the go.
So it has the infrastructure to attach an eGPU via USB4 however no drivers for ARM from NVIDIA or AMD I am afraid ... and it seems MS is locking these to Windows since you were unable to do anything about Secure Boot ... And it still will be for a very long time Intel and AMD only since usable software outside of browser/office/content creation is I guess non-existent ... same situation as Apple ...
I couldn't disable it or see where to stop that Ai upscale. I guess I should have dropped my desktop to 720p to stop it. It was late and I was very pushed to get this video out the embargo was 8 hours ago.
I’ll have to test those but I don’t see why they wouldn’t pretty much everything works but you want native arm versions if possible for the best performance. So they have arm ports?
battery life, less heat abd less noise, nothing else is a pluss, from there performance, compatibility and the expected problems down the road for a new platform should be expected
Great laptop and step forward from Qualcomm.. but a long way to go before these machines are anywhere performance-competitive on professional CPU/rendering environments. This is undoubted the beginning of the end for x86, and way overdue. But it will be a slow death.
Yes like games that are also made for ARM, Genshin impact or Diablo immortal. I was going to test those but I was more interested in X86 gaming emulated performance since MS said or claim it would be the same no performance hit, I beg to differ.
@@Techtablets yeah. x86 definitely will take quite a hit like in rosetta. but i can see this laptop running android OS and even macOS apps in emulation with minimum performance hit as they're ARM based. maybe microsoft/qualcomm need to start making or improving emulation for those platforms.
so if the game are arm native, will the 3d performance double or only around 10-20% increase? because as i learned, the gpu tflop are only half of radeon 780m.
The Copilot plus features run locally, any other feature runs over the internet. So, the draw me a house feature (plus) requires no internet, but asking a question does (non plus). At lrast, that's my understanding.
Thank you for referencing/ comparing to intel arc or 780m! Frankly, there was too much hype for these chips, no? Great battery life (though arguably i ultra/ amd 7th gen onwards were sufficient) and that's pretty much it. If one needs to video edit/ do graphic designing/ game with igpu it seems like they're better off with team blue or red. Every other task runs just fine ever since 2019 or so... Sure "maybe the next gen..." but haven't we been saying that for the last nth generations?
We have been saying the maybe next gen, it's here now if you don't need to game or GPU acceleration as very few app support that natively which is a pain. ARM Adobe apps work but late full acceleration like I showed with video editing. And now of course we have Lunar Lake, Strike point and the new Radeon 860M and 880M delivering much better iGPU performance Qualcomm needs to get that sorted for the next X Elite.
The big negative for the X-Elite is the GPU is worse than all rivals. Its CPU is okay due to having 12 performance cores, so that is expected. NPU is not important at the moment as there is little that makes use of extra performance.
