THE BIGGEST BETRAYAL / Star Wars: Jedi Survivor Part 9 

It is.

It is. If you go back to where you last fought Dagan, there's an echo of Bode picking up the saber

With the starkiller stance too

@@yahiko7701 exactly!

​@@yahiko7701That doesn't make sense for Bode, though. The reverse grip is usually used by people to compensate for lack of strength or smaller builds. Bode is clearly not either. I guess it's just personal preference on his part.

Well I think the difference lies in the motives for killing, Cal had nothing personal against the soldiers he massacred they just got in his way. Unlike Denvik, he is the cause of all his misfortunes (Bode). The death of Cordova and Cere, if Cal succumbed to his anger and killed Denvik there would be no turning back.

sorry for the incoming paragraph, this is just my thoughts! i think the reason you can love anakin and hate bode is that as much as anakin's turn to the darkside hurts, we KNOW what's going to happen. we dont feel the betrayal the same way because no matter what, we know he's going to become vader. but bode? fuck dude, i didnt see that shit coming. like you knew he was acting weird after we killed dagan but it was such a shock and it feels so much worse.

@@ghostb1tch61 It's the main character bias that we all suffer from. There are plenty of characters who are willing to sacrifice everything and everyone for the people they care for. However, we truly only see how dumb that logic is when villains or side characters do it.

Bode and Anakin are not the same character. Bode does not hate himself. Bode does not redeem himself. Bode doesn't slaughter younglings, and Bode isn't the chosen one.

Vader (Phase 3): Now I'm Motivated!

Jedi cant cut someone down in anger or revenge. Also, Jedi cant harm the defenseless. If Cal had simply deflected those bolts back at Denvik, it would've been fine, but he had disarmed him making him defenseless.

I think its not forced. These two understand each other a different way from the norm. Both from different ways of life and orders yet they understand each other. Even Fucking Bode called Cal on it when it cames to his happiness with Merrin around.

what

​@@_Beau2005_ cal used his force power to see into the past, everything the player did as cere is Cal reliving the events that led to her death.

Oh…$#!+…

@@IHATEBAYLE yeah i didnt even realize that until i read it in a post on reddit i believe,but still kinda cool we kinda got to see what happened

Ok

Actually that’s not his health bar that is his patience meter

Greez was probably the most necessary character in the series.

Yeah their relationship felt very realistic to me

Yeah their relationship and bond is one of the strongest parts of the game. Alyska is master a hater😂

Cal and merrins relationship just shows how powerful bonds of love can be, kind of like how Revan and bastila were in kotor, and in a sense it’s a reverse of that situation, Revan saves bastila from the dark side by using the love he has for her. Merrin saves cal from losing himself to the darkness with the love she has for him They have shared the same trauma with the looses of there families and friends they understand each others pain, both have saved each other from there darkness and that’s all because of that love they share It just goes to show how wrong the Jedi were in a lot of the teachings, even cal sees that. the force responds to emotions so in theory, if the darkness can be channel with hatred and rage, who’s to say that the light cannot be channeled with love and happiness. All that is really need to do is just control those emotions but still allow them to flow freely through. Perhaps this will be the start of that order with cal as the first Jedi with the help of his love merrin they may start a new Jedi order that closely resembles the Jedi order that Luke had in legend which were much more powerful

Not every character has to be in a romantic relationship

@@captaindc3889true but it raises the stakes and it honestly helps it too

I disagree with him just shooting bode. Ik I shouldn't but I mean- in front of his daughter? I'm surprised Kata doesn't have outbursts towards Cal everytime he tries talking to her. But yeah Bode was technically unarmed when his blaster failed. No way Cal's gun didn't have stun mode

What’s ironic is that you don’t need your hands to use the force. Dooku was technically still a threat as he could’ve still used the force.

​@epic-fictionalprojects4394 Bode had to be put down. You missed the point of his character arc. Towards the end he was being more and more consumed by the dark side, to the point that he started to attack his daughter and the range of the attacks just got increasingly worse overtime. They gave him many chances to give up but it was clear that no matter what they did, Bode wasn't going to stop.

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Agreed. Revenge is not the Jedi way.

@@jackson857 the jedi order is no more

I prefer the sith and the dark side

​@@houseofaction the Jedi way isn't exclusive to the order. But if Cal wants to be a Jedi there are still some things he needs to abide by. That's what Dagan was willing to kill his comrades.

Yeap, if you don't hit the brakes and keep acting out of anger and revenge you are a done deal. I mean everyone can lose their shit, even jedi are just people that can be overwelmed by emotion at some point but the important thing is to find the clarity and calm yourself down. That's what Merrin did there for Cal. Denvik was dead anyways, he said it himself, if it wasn't Cal, it would be Vader so letting him alive wasn't changing anything in the outcome but it saved Cal from going down the dark side

Respectful of course Alyska: not being a cal merrin supporter The cal merrin supporters : don’t lecture us Alyska we see though the lies of the Jedi, we don’t not fear the the cal merrin ship as you do

Difference of opinion does not in fact equate to "high level insanity" believe it or not.

@@adamparker43 Joke

@@ZaWardo151 That’s funny

Yea I don’t understand why she thinks it’s forced. It’s built up pretty well. Especially if you catch all the looks they give each other and pay attention to the dialogue between them

@@timothymance2710 my thoughts exactly. The moment she thought it was "forced" I rolled my eyes. Of course, bad takes can always be defended with "it's just my opinion", and then stop there without trying to see from the other point of view.

@@timothymance2710 The looks they give each other and the dialogue *are* kinda forced though. It all happens *very* quickly.

I agree. And this doesn't just apply to fictional works such as movies, video games, or books. I, personally, can confirm that it's possible in real life. My now fiancée and I met a little less than 2 years ago through a mutual friend, began dating about a year ago and realized we had a ton in common. Then, we went through some very dramatic times in both our lives where we were each other's rock. That's when we realized we were definitely feeling something more. I proposed a couple of weeks ago and she said yes. So, people who say that a couple must be together for a set amount of time before it's "real" or "true love" don't have a clue.

The thing is that Bode was right, from a tactical standpoint. When you start gathering large amounts of Force-sensitive refugees somewhere, the planet develops a unique signature in the Force that Vader and the Emperor would sense. That's aside from the military parts of this you mentioned regarding the logistics of funneling people there. The fact that the Jedi scattered actually improved their odds of survival. Yes, alone IF they were found, they'd stand no chance, but alone their chances of hiding successfully were better. Keeping the group of survivors on Tanalorr limited in numbers was actually the smarter play.

I also want to state that people were willing to forgive Joel Miller for doing something VERY similar to what Bode Akuna did. Just...Joel was the protagonist, Bode was not. There is the argument that Joel wasn't close to Marlene, and the betrayal there went both ways, while Bode did profess a close friendship with Cal (he called him brother several times). Personal betrayal always hurts worse. Though Marlene did NOT give the Joel or Ellie a chance to say goodbye, OR have a say in the decision, while Cal DID give Bode a few opportunities to stand down and try to reason with him.

​@@thedarkstarr11 So basically nothing like the Joel Miller situation. You started by saying it was similar and then listed basically everything that was different between them 😂

@@atharvawaikar9730 How is it different? Joel slaughtered all those Fireflies and robbed humanity of a potential cure to protect Ellie (even though it's what she would've wanted). Bode betrayed Cal and sold out the Hidden Path to protect his daughter. Both did horrible things for selfish reasons. If Bode was the protagonist like Joel, I'm sure all those people angry at him would suddenly be sympathetic. It's just that we've spent more time with Cal and have a stronger connection with him.

@@izilladkilla "Even though it's what she would have wanted." Soo you a psychic or something because the whole point was that the Fireflies did not tell anyone about the risk involved and the fact that all their previous attempts had failed miserably. Unlike the Bode situation where Cal hid nothing from him and involved him in every decision he made.

which really makes no sense since the magic of the night sisters is by definition the DARK SIDE.

Jedi cant cut someone down in anger or revenge since those emotions lead to the dark side.

Previously: Alyska: “I don’t want Bode to die.” Later Alyska: “Let’s kill Bode.”😂😂

what joel did was much worse, he literally damned the world by saving her

tbf Vader was fast approaching the system with his Inquistitors... so everyone there was f**ked with or without Cal lol

To be fair, Han and Leia's relationship moved fairly fast too. Fallen Order set up the ship tease, Battle Scars helped, but was unnecessary for the relationship to progress. In the end, it comes down to personal preference. Not everyone was for it. I was. I thought it was built up well enough...this is a game, not five seasons of Rebels, so I wasn't expecting a lot...and it was CERTAINLY less cringe worthy than what Anakin and Padme went through (I liked the relationship...NOT how Lucas directed it, because both actors are actually really good at what they do and I felt that he felt his vision was the only way to go about it, which meant NOT trusting two good actors to sell the scene like they were able). Still, nothing says you have to like the relationship. I think it served the character arc, and the story well. If there is a sequel though, I figure Cal and Merrin will have a child...and he'll end up like MOST of the other Jedi...y'know, killed off in a heroic sacrifice or something. Then ten years down the line, we'll get a Disney Plus series about their kid.

Seemed pretty damn obvious the route their relationship would take in the first game the moment Cal gave her the Astrium on Dathomir and their hands lingered awkwardly. You could tell they liked each other when they started talking. Both of them were survivors who found a kindred spirit. It’s a matter of opinion but sometimes less is more

Don't forget Anakin Skywalker

Not a sith. A dark Jedi