The BIZARRE CONTROVERSY Between the Green Bay Packers and Amtrak | Chargers @ Packers (1996)

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During week 3 of the 1996 NFL season, the Green Bay Packers hosted the San Diego Chargers at Lambeau Field. And since this was a gold package game, and Milwaukee fans had tickets to the game, Amtrak thought it would be a good idea to provide a service between Milwaukee and Green Bay for the first time in a quarter century. The result was an absolute and predictable disaster that seems comical as to how anyone thought this was a good idea
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@americanidol30 6 месяцев назад

In January of 1997, Packers fanes would travel south to New Orleans for Super Bowl XXXI. Which they won.

@benjaminrealy5661 6 месяцев назад

My amtrak to a game story: I lived in Ferndale MI. The first suburb north of Detroit. I lived right by the bus stop that cost only $1.50 at the time that took me to within a block of Comerica Park. So for $3 I had round trip transportation to a Tiger game. One day I decided to walk two miles north to Royal Oak to take Amtrak to the game. The closest Amtrak stop to Comerica Park was 3 miles away, so I either had to take a bus the rest of the way, or walk a total of 5 miles. (It was a beautiful day so I ended up walking) the price of the train ticket was I think $26, but for sure a little bit north of $20. It was only one way. But it was a memorable experience I'd recommend anyone doing once, but it definable isn't feasible to be my primary transportation to the game. Now $99 does sound high at first, but it's a unique experience and since there wasn't other reliable transportation for non drivers to get there, it might even be worth it for a one time experience. But, while I agree a bit overpriced, (I would say $60 would have been fair to all parties) it was the marketing that was the real killer. They could have done a train ticket/game ticket package. They could have had a former Packer as the ticket taker, but instead of taking the ticket, he autographs it. Basically the marketing they had in place was you have to already have a ticket to the game, you have to have no other means to get to the game, and you've got to afford another $100 to use our service. They just limited their potential customers instead of broadening it. I just hope amtrak at least offered bus shuttles for those 150 people who bought the tickets.

@PowerPackers90 6 месяцев назад

The 1996 Green Bay Packers. the reason I'm a football fan today and still IMO the greatest Packers team in my lifetime.

@DolFan316 6 месяцев назад

I'm 50, not a Packers fan, and I agree. Saw several of their games that season and most of the time they made it look so clinical and effortless. Even the 15-1 team wasn't as dominant.

@82dorrin 6 месяцев назад

As a Broncos' fan, I'm partial to the 1997 Green Bay Packers. 😂😂

@travismiller4320 6 месяцев назад

@@82dorrinI’m surprised you didn’t mention Super Bowl 32 happened in San Diego, as a Packers fan I remember going to English 12 the next day and seeing Broncos celebrating with Lombardi trophy while my teacher was reading a paper and commented “Look at them celebrating with our trophy” and he told me I “would get over it” and I did. That’s my first memory from that game

@christophercripps7639 6 месяцев назад

AMTRAK seems to be notoriously expensive outside the Boston-Washington corridor. Regular rail commuters are used to dozing on the train. Did it for 7 years. At least Milwaukee to Green Bay you can’t oversleep and end up well past your stop.

@chrisguardiano6143 6 месяцев назад

As someone who lives in Seattle who uses Amtrak for weekend trips to away games for the Kraken of the NHL & the Sounders of MLS in Portland & Vancouver at least once a year, I definitely agree with you about Amtrak being expensive. Heck I paid $175 for a one way train ticket to Portland for a Sounders-Timbers match a few years ago & I have seen prices for the weekend of that particular game as high as $300 for a one way ticket. It's even worse for Vancouver as back in July when I went up there for the Sounders-Whitecaps match, I paid $330 for a round trip ticket in just the basic class of seats.

@cancerstinks1 6 месяцев назад

Just more proof the USA really needs to overhaul their rail system.

@clintholmes2061 6 месяцев назад

Capitalism is the problem not the "rail system."

@nautgamingnautgaming9949 6 месяцев назад

Cargo trains are still reasonable because some things are too big to carry via semi

@cancerstinks1 6 месяцев назад

@@nautgamingnautgaming9949 yeah they fine. I’m obviously talking about passenger trains, bullet trains, subway train renovations, etc.

@TheSlothNerd64 6 месяцев назад

Yeah unless you're Sheldon Cooper, you're never going to take the train. Just drive or fly.

@andykillsu 6 месяцев назад

This is crazy that you put this video out with the Packers playing the Chargers this week. Because this weeks game vs the Chargers is the second Gold Package game this year. As a Packers club season ticket owner, ie I get tickets to all the games, and know what the traffic normally is, the traffic was insane driving up I-43... Like it was never this bad before compared to the last few seasons. I was planning on getting to the game 2 hours before the game. And I left my house normally when I would, but I only got to the game 1.5 hours before kickoff because the traffic was terrible. Traffic was backup up 4.5 miles trying to turn onto East WI-172 from I-43 (normally that would be like 1 miles max). And me getting to the game 2 hours early is pretty early, sooner than most people would normally get to the stadium.

@markm.j.lewandowskijr1171 6 месяцев назад

In the mid 90s there used to be a Amtrak "Bills Train" from NYC to Depew New York then a Blue Bird bus will take you from the Depew Station to Orchard Park to the Bills game for BILLS/Jets games. Amtrak must have tried to do some partnership with the NFL in the 90s.

@americangiant1003 6 месяцев назад

Not to get off topic but with the new Bills Stadium in Orchard Park opening, it would ideally to bring back a “Blue Bird” type bus running non stop express between Downtown Buffalo and the New Stadium. Although I have not (as of late 2023) been to a Bills home Game, I was stuck in traffic driving home to my then home in NYC after a weekend trip to Toronto in late October 1998. Most importantly hopefully NYS opens up a new HOV lane on Interstate 90 on the Western NY Thruway to handle both that express bus and cars/vehicles of at least 3 passengers on game days between Downtown and Orchard Park.

@boiledcabbageurinefarts7417 6 месяцев назад

The Chargers lost to both Super Bowl participants that year by a combined 87-17. The beginning of the end for the Bobbys.

@marcus813 6 месяцев назад

I hope Amtrak can bring a Green Bay/Milwaukee route back just for general purposes. As for going to football games alone, I do that all the time. However, that price point would've been prohibitive for me. I don't have a car, so I wouldn't be able to attend many (if any) Orlando Magic NBA games from here in Tampa if the Magic had such a package.

@philliefan94 6 месяцев назад

It seems like this could’ve worked if they had done two things differently: 1. Find a way to run multiple trains to the stadium leaving at different times 2. Give discounts on tickets for fans who show their game tickets I don’t know how possible this would’ve actually been, but it seems like it could’ve worked if it was.

@lsmftymf 6 месяцев назад

Most heartbreaking aspect of Amtrak is its prices are much too high. It's as if the prices were set by individuals coddling the petroleum and automotive industries, which most likely is the case considering that Amtrak is a government-operated entity.

@Deltron3031 6 месяцев назад

From where I travel to Patriots games 45 minutes away, the fan train is run by a regional rail provider (MBTA), and is only a little more time than driving. It also costs $10 for a round trip, or 1/5th the price of parking your car at the stadium. So a family of 4 still saves money (even before counting gas and maintenance) taking the train up. And based on the great value proposition, these always run full. Only negative is the one run time that arrives one hour before kickoff and leaves a half hour after the game. So it is difficult to mix in a restaurant or Hall of Fame visit pre and post-game.

@LegendaryDorkKnight 6 месяцев назад

I really think Amtrak should have tried to enter an exclusive deal with the Packers. They offer the Green Bay-Milwaukee trip for free to the fans who had the season package in exchange for a cut of the revenue. The Packers would probably raise the price of the season package a little, but let Milwaukee fans know that it comes with free transportation.

@CTubeMan 6 месяцев назад

This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about how the Packers themselves experienced their own travel-related disaster in Denver in 1978.

@travismiller4320 6 месяцев назад

My dad and his new girlfriend were going to take me to this game trying to buy tickets from a scalper, but we didn’t find a decent price.

@anitag1995 6 месяцев назад

OK so I don't think you had to mention 1971 was a HALF CENTURY ago. You could have left it at 1971 and not made us feel so old.

@daBEAGLE1017 6 месяцев назад

I miss County Stadium in Milwaukee.

@runrafarunthebestintheworld 6 месяцев назад

Too bad it's gone.

@timtebowsleftarm5368 5 месяцев назад

Amtrak is apparently bringing MKE-GB trains back. And hopefully much cheaper than this idiocy.

@broski89 6 месяцев назад

Yeah i would just drive

@chrisguardiano6143 6 месяцев назад

This is very similar to what happened with Newcastle United of the Premier League 3 years later in their match vs West Ham though instead of trains it is with buses. Newcastle at the time offered a season ticket package that allowed fans to go to 2 away matches (in agreement with the other clubs in the Premier League) of their choosing free of charge along with the away rivalry match vs Sunderland. This was in addition to all 18 home matches in the Premier League. As a way of trying to encourage fans to not deal with the traffic associated with driving, Newcastle offered a round trip bus service for all away matches. However like in this story, the cost of the bus service was absolutely unaffordable. It cost 150 pounds or $187 per person in 1999 money to use this service and for this particular match, fans would be on the bus for almost 12 hours at least (if not more if there was traffic which there likely was given how bad the traffic is in London). For some context on how expensive this service was, a round trip train ticket between those two cities cost 12 pounds or $14.98 per person, meaning a fan would have saved $172 if they took the train. They would have also gotten to the match quicker as it takes 3 hours 20 minutes to London by train (due to the UK having a significantly better rail service than what the US has) from Newcastle as opposed to 6 hours by driving/bus. As you can imagine, not many Newcastle fans took the bus as only 17 of them bothered to ride it out of two buses that could seat 110 people each. Newcastle lost a ton of money as a result & discontinued the bus service after the 1999/2000 Premier League.

@Jason_Maier 6 месяцев назад

Here's a full list of the games the Packers played in Milwaukee: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers_home_games_in_Milwaukee Interesting how most of the years at County Stadium, it was three games; with 4 games in 78 and 80. And if they aren't willing/able to do a Green Bay/Milwaukee Amtrak route; why not a dedicated game day round trip by bus?

@joedufek2810 16 дней назад

NFL working with Amtrak to revive for 2025 NFL Draft in Green Bay

@tornadotrick7991 6 месяцев назад

7:02 The Lions themselves TAUNTED us packer fans by having their entire sideline flex it us

@geowand 6 месяцев назад

And in a video about football....Jaguar Gator summed up why rail does not work in the US....and people should stop trying to make it work...Spoiler Alert...it won't,

@americangiant1003 6 месяцев назад

Geo while I agree that full 100% nation wide rail won’t ever work in the US, there is no reason why at least 75-80% of the country should not have some access to it.

@nautgamingnautgaming9949 6 месяцев назад

Over or under 1 DUMB DECISION from todays packers chargers game We have Lafleur vs staley two REGULAR GUESTS on this program

@HeHateMe1 6 месяцев назад

I'll take the over.

@MrJamieBattle 6 месяцев назад

Thank God i live and work along the northeast corridor 🚂

@americangiant1003 6 месяцев назад

Despite its many flaws ie overcrowding, weather ie Northeaster rain/snow storms, severe heat with humidity in the summer every couple of years, etc. at least most of the Northeast US mainly from Boston-NYC-Philly-DC has very good regional rail access compared to the rest of the nation.

@anthonyrivera3520 6 месяцев назад

Packers @ Chargers 2026 regular season, who wins?

@randytracy1742 6 месяцев назад

Right idea-wrong and Carl costly!!😂😂

@cmdrflake 6 месяцев назад

Well, you had to decide how got from Milwaukee to Green Bay yourself. The value was in the experience. It was their call.

@bronsonbamnallen1633 6 месяцев назад

Amtrak is ridiculous, but I enjoy a trip on the rails once in a while. Its also a nice place to sleep when you got to catch a really early one or really late one and great safe transportation for people who plan on drinking. But I cant believe it took over 4 hours to get from Milwaukee to Green Bay. Lol. This whole story is/was absurd. Typical of the Pukers. Neat piece of history about the Pukers playing in Milwaukee all those decades because I didnt know about any of that though.