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The Black Box of the Art Business 

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@PumpkinBecki
@PumpkinBecki 11 месяцев назад
So incredibly depressing that these works of art are hidden away in places like this, seen as framed money instead of something beautiful to be seen and enjoyed.
@edwardlutz935
@edwardlutz935 5 месяцев назад
Lol most pieces are ugly and are valuable only because of the game....
@OptimisticSatellite-zn1yn
@OptimisticSatellite-zn1yn 5 дней назад
Naziz Descendants
@turquoisegreene9625
@turquoisegreene9625 5 лет назад
Well... what did you expect? Safeguarding criminal's asses and assets has been Switzerland's job for 500 years now. That's why they are neutral. The criminals in power will never touch the place where their precious assets are.
@Leon_George
@Leon_George Год назад
That's... annoying, but really clever.
@DB-bc1tg
@DB-bc1tg 3 года назад
There's always been something very fishy to me about art prices in general.
@AFAskygoddess
@AFAskygoddess 10 месяцев назад
It's often money laundering, especially the crappy, abstract "art" pieces.
@anbus1018
@anbus1018 4 года назад
Thank you so much for showing this BEST DOCUMENTARY.... Enjoyed immensely....😮🤔
@fobbitguy
@fobbitguy 5 лет назад
Seems the perfect place for the stolen art pieces from the Gardner museum in Boston to hide.
@SilvanaDil
@SilvanaDil 5 лет назад
The world should raid Switzerland to see what's inside. You could be right; the Vermeer, Rembrandt's sole seascape, etc. could be there.
@kurtilein3
@kurtilein3 4 года назад
no, no. The theft must be in the distant past. They will not allow thugs who do hands-on crime with guns, ladders and crobars now. If you steal ten billion dollars with sophisticated methods, that is okay. If you steal one million or ten millions with crude methods and violence, you are not welcome.
@MikelGCinema
@MikelGCinema 5 лет назад
Oh the Swiss, over the years they have mastered the art of hiding valuables.
@squiremuldoon5462
@squiremuldoon5462 5 лет назад
They make good jews.
@kucingdterbakard3765
@kucingdterbakard3765 5 лет назад
Where is ze Nazi gold
@kikihunziker
@kikihunziker 5 лет назад
Mikel, it’ not THE SWISS. It’s one person at the time and mostly, they are not Swiss citizens. There are right- as well as wrong-doers everywhere.
@faycastle8732
@faycastle8732 4 года назад
There is nothing quite like excessive greed!
@jeanfrancoisturenne4070
@jeanfrancoisturenne4070 5 лет назад
“No filming or photography”. decides to make a documentary
@anAeijingBuffoon
@anAeijingBuffoon 5 лет назад
JeanFrançois Turenne: somethings fraudulent going on there?! The money people are a bunch of arseholes.
@marklewis4793
@marklewis4793 5 лет назад
..makes a doc worth watching.
@anAeijingBuffoon
@anAeijingBuffoon 5 лет назад
mark lewis how to make money?! Get something for nothing and sell it to some unsuspecting idiot for millions, not too much, just under a billion. 👍🏻, and put the money in a trust account -- whatever that is -- in an off-shore haven -- whatever that is -- and hang out with your fat friends drinking green tea. What a life?! Cover me, I'm going in.
@daikayll1897
@daikayll1897 5 лет назад
Jef ier , " GO ...GO ...GO..!!! "
@tomasbickel58
@tomasbickel58 5 лет назад
.. asked not to use a footage .. uses them ... ah .. tasteless Americans. .. P.S.: with a tiny bit of talent you could have worked around it.
@zwietnamu3605
@zwietnamu3605 5 лет назад
Maybe Portrait of a Young Man by Raphael is in Geneva freeport. During the Second World War the painting was stolen by Germans from Poland. Many historians regard it as the most important painting missing since World War II.It is suggested that, if found, the painting would be worth in excess of 100 million US dollars
@sharonb2061
@sharonb2061 3 года назад
A very good video documentary about art. Thank you for sharing.
@caseylevins9900
@caseylevins9900 5 лет назад
This is fascinating and disturbing at the same time. Very well done. The greed is saddening. I may just scrape by each day, but I sleep well each night. I feel sorry for how shallow these people are; it must be stressful.
@dixirose111
@dixirose111 4 года назад
Buy an art piece you can enjoy. It will take your stress away. Purchase from a local artist for a minimal fee. Choose a piece you enjoy looking at.
@spookywanker
@spookywanker 2 года назад
I am sure that their nights sleeping in their mansions must really eat at them night, and day.
@newearthman
@newearthman 2 года назад
@@spookywanker 🤣😂🤣
@InventaChris
@InventaChris Год назад
They worked hard for their money. The only shallow one here is you.
@dylantorrance6580
@dylantorrance6580 Год назад
@@spookywanker LL
@NilsBeh
@NilsBeh 4 года назад
This makes me so fucking sad. Imagine manifasting your deepest feelings into your paintings just for them to be stored in some swiss vault
@jonathangoldrick8279
@jonathangoldrick8279 3 года назад
it's called hoarding. Imagine how many of these works could be shown to the world, how many lives could be changed by exhibiting to the public. It's so sad that so many rich people do this. They will never understand Art or the human experience without the concept of ownership and commodity
@______brazil
@______brazil 3 года назад
As an artist, honestly I wouldn’t care; so long as I got paid.
@redram5150
@redram5150 3 года назад
@@jonathangoldrick8279 “hoarding” implies what they’re doing is wrong. It isn’t. It’ll end when governments stop stealing an individual’s wealth with taxes.
@johnkarford6430
@johnkarford6430 5 лет назад
Crazy how easy you hide behind a corporation
@juancantu6169
@juancantu6169 3 года назад
I live in Delaware which is corporation heaven and plenty of folks have hidden behind corporations mainly because the owners of said corporations did not legally have to be publicly named until just recently for transparency purposes of course. Here’s an interesting fact on Delaware and corporations - there are more corporations incorporated in Delaware than the actual population of Delaware. Actually, 66% of Fortunate 500 companies are incorporated here.
@texgal3990
@texgal3990 5 лет назад
Art ! Some of it so breathtakingly beautiful. But what a high price to pay for that beauty. And the art of body language says that some look worried and scared.
@Eliel7230
@Eliel7230 4 дня назад
When seeing the letters ' s.a.' on that building, it told me how this whole thing was going. Those letters are an abbreviation for the term "anonymous society". Business conducted in countries with this s.a. mark denotes that most, if not all, transactions are a private matter between those concerned and are usually secret in nature.
@mary_syl
@mary_syl 11 месяцев назад
People with aspiration complex need to understand that happiness remains relative. Richer or poorer, people are on average the same, they just worry about different things. But being rich doesn't make you happy. There's plenty on research on the topic and the happiness indexes of different countries on the world are very revealing. Make the best of wherever you are and above all, make love & friendship your priority 👍
@dragonlaughing
@dragonlaughing 5 лет назад
The billionaire chisels. If the dealer buys for himself and then offers to the collector, there is no fiduciary duty to the collector. The dealer takes the risk of buying and had the risk that he must stand behind the work for authenticity. The collector could have paid for an agent if he wanted to take those risks for himself. And, if chosen, his agent might not have the same access to art works
@paulsmith1981
@paulsmith1981 4 года назад
Certain dealers are claiming 50% of art sold at actions could be fakes. A situation that is no doubt somewhat caused by the clandestine practices of supper wealthy collectors.
@carissafisher7514
@carissafisher7514 Год назад
Seems like they could just compare it from a picture?
@brettblaster
@brettblaster 11 месяцев назад
@@carissafisher7514the forgers are even more talented that most of the artists that’s why they have to date the materials to find out fakes now
@TheSapphire51
@TheSapphire51 5 лет назад
The artists would be turning in their graves.
@kojikasumi7953
@kojikasumi7953 Год назад
I may have been offered that Modigliani early 2000’s … from another well known dealer family in NY
@truttman
@truttman 4 года назад
The art business operates solely on the "greater fool" theory.
@getoart
@getoart 5 лет назад
The shameful abuse of art for financial speculations...
@Amelia-yu6ii
@Amelia-yu6ii 5 лет назад
yea money sucks the soul out of everything
@weepingwillow-ud6xl
@weepingwillow-ud6xl 4 года назад
Ars longa, vita brevis. Money in the millions is similar to pesticide to organic food destroys the purity & goodness of art. That very pesticide should be sprayed on those snooty lot, with their highfalutin opions they're nothing but protentious sycophants.
@Larkinchance
@Larkinchance 4 года назад
Rumor has it that the Walter Keane collection is secretly held here.
@Khamomil
@Khamomil 5 лет назад
modern art is a vehicle designed specifically to launder money. Many art owners don't know squat about art, what matters to them is the resale value and the bragging rights when their guests see famous paintings hanging on their walls.
@Dre2Dee2
@Dre2Dee2 4 года назад
Oh! Rich people bitcoin! Ok, I get it now
@siewheilou399
@siewheilou399 2 года назад
Classic arts, and poparts created by CIA. Most modern arts are worthless both financially and artistically.
@dingusdingus2152
@dingusdingus2152 Год назад
Sad but true
@Kontorgh_art
@Kontorgh_art 10 месяцев назад
Wow, we need part two of this. Very interesting to watch.
@DLoveVitamin
@DLoveVitamin Год назад
The so called stolen painting titled "Portrait of a Man" could be another painting. The painting in question, that was displayed, had the name of the painting on the label on the back of the painting/frame, and it was not Portrait of a Man, it was however "Portrait of M. X". Modigliani did many other portraits of men, so the detectives claim is far from proof that this is the painting he is trying to recover.
@NoGoodHandlesComingToMind
@NoGoodHandlesComingToMind 4 года назад
Amazing documentary.
@reinaldoperez157
@reinaldoperez157 11 месяцев назад
Increíble e interesante historia del arte...y sus obras d famosos.y su valor .. monetario gracias
@onemorechris
@onemorechris Год назад
only 2min in: there’s something disappointing about things like wine and art that could be enjoyed but instead is sitting in some crate. it’s like the billionaire version of buying a toy and not opening it
@michealrawlings9281
@michealrawlings9281 5 лет назад
Trillions are in the free port. Nations and individuals wealth or net-worths are located there. Even businesses investments are there.
@fluffylee
@fluffylee 5 лет назад
It's always nice when you hear Peter Coyote's voice.
@weepingwillow-ud6xl
@weepingwillow-ud6xl 4 года назад
Get him to read you a bed time story then - I'm sure he would at the right price.
@thegreatreverendx
@thegreatreverendx 5 лет назад
Now it’s clear why Clifford Still didn’t allow his work to be sold.
@modfus
@modfus 5 лет назад
They still find their way to market from time to time. I've become a fan of his work.
@carissafisher7514
@carissafisher7514 Год назад
No one wanted to buy it.
@restoredaccess
@restoredaccess 7 месяцев назад
That was a staggering amount of art to give for inheritance duty.
@damianousley8833
@damianousley8833 Год назад
As the song says "art for arts sake money for gods sake".
@CHR588
@CHR588 Год назад
Art Values are Fabricated by those who sell the work, only time will prove what has enduring value
@alejaldo
@alejaldo 3 года назад
OMG, Rybolovlev is the Russian oligarch from Tenet movie!
@anderslarsen4912
@anderslarsen4912 4 года назад
Socalled "free ports" exists because they are condoned by governments. Governments control the legislative process and thereby the regulatory framework that makes "free ports" a viable option. "Free ports"......"free" from what? If governments allow "free ports" in their teritory, governments are part of the problem, not part of the solution.
@erbalumkan369
@erbalumkan369 11 месяцев назад
Most, if not all, of those works of 'art': i would not want it on my wall.
@johnpkorb2112
@johnpkorb2112 4 года назад
"Nothing is better, nothing is best… Take care of your health and get plenty of rest." Bob Dylan
@ericcleesak8074
@ericcleesak8074 3 года назад
C'mon baby & eat the rich , bite down on the son of a bitch - Lemmy Kilmeister
@walterblumenthal787
@walterblumenthal787 3 года назад
Oh art, joy timeless, immortal love.
@leobuckey
@leobuckey 5 лет назад
How can something be legally correct and dubious at the same time? 43:20
@express375
@express375 3 года назад
Very skillfully made doucumentary by a master of persuasion. Do you know who made it and who paid for it please?
@juancantu6169
@juancantu6169 2 года назад
Who would you guess made this?
@express375
@express375 2 года назад
@@juancantu6169 Jimmy Cranky
@margaretphillips3264
@margaretphillips3264 5 лет назад
All dealing in hideously ugly stuff I wouldn’t hang behind my toilet door.
@FactNinja
@FactNinja Год назад
A Russian oligarch suing somebody for fraud is laughable
@andrewhanson5278
@andrewhanson5278 5 лет назад
Do any of these people actually like art?
@pyewackett5
@pyewackett5 4 года назад
I very much doubt it. As someone said in an earlier comment -. ' the artists themselves would be turning in their graves'
@classicartfoundation639
@classicartfoundation639 3 года назад
No
@dingusdingus2152
@dingusdingus2152 5 месяцев назад
​@@classicartfoundation639you are correct. Art is simply an 'asset class' and as such is no different than any other resource. If rich collectors weren't buying and selling art, they would be speculating in some other commodity like hog futures or whatever.
@andrenewcomb3708
@andrenewcomb3708 5 лет назад
Does Jason Bourne have access?
@JamesBond-uz2dm
@JamesBond-uz2dm 5 лет назад
No, but I do.
@TheMrB
@TheMrB 5 лет назад
13:11 Worst Comb Over Ever!
@rokuthedog
@rokuthedog 4 года назад
Lol ikr just give up on hair and get a buzz cut
@simple22travel11
@simple22travel11 5 лет назад
The art dealer rips off his Russian business partner for over a 100million on one painting and then avoids paying taxes, greed greed greed.. ...
@newearthman
@newearthman 5 лет назад
the Russian billionaire stole all his money from the Russian people anyway... but he's just a thief, (a good thief), not a negotiator. He paid way too much for the art works.
@ms.christian7792
@ms.christian7792 5 лет назад
... sigh... what's new. ))
@dragonlaughing
@dragonlaughing 5 лет назад
It was not a partner. It was a customer.
@greenspringvalley
@greenspringvalley 5 лет назад
It's weird paying big money for something subjective.
@Amelia-yu6ii
@Amelia-yu6ii 5 лет назад
they dont care about the art, just the money. i dont think its that subjective to them, just another asset
@ms.christian7792
@ms.christian7792 5 лет назад
I know a famous actor who had bought some art for his home. I once said, it's not even your taste, he laughed and said, doesn't matter, now that I've owned it, it's worth more. (he was advised and he took it)
@danie7kovacs
@danie7kovacs 5 лет назад
Art is subjective on one hand but not on the other.
@greenspringvalley
@greenspringvalley 5 лет назад
Daniel Kovács True, I think it's funny. Talk about buyer's remorse. If you spent 50 million dollars on a board with three stripes of color and then regretted it. It reminds me of when Jack from Jack and the Bean Stalk brought back magic beans.
@danie7kovacs
@danie7kovacs 5 лет назад
@@greenspringvalley Well, yes, you can see all paintings as color pigments smudged on a canvas, but do you want it tho?
@skiphoffenflaven8004
@skiphoffenflaven8004 3 года назад
Creepy, sickening world and people. My golly. This is just too much of a reveal of how people think and behave. Rich people, that is..
@Maithyme0
@Maithyme0 4 года назад
so cute doude!
@E-Kat
@E-Kat 8 месяцев назад
No one really owns anything. We're only the custodians of possessions as when we die, we won't be able to take anything with us.
@pfaffman100
@pfaffman100 3 года назад
Xopowo. Nice B.D. Many Thank you's.
@MM-Iconoclast
@MM-Iconoclast 5 лет назад
The Stettiner looked like a portrait of the dealer himself - I wonder if it was.
@grimtt
@grimtt 5 лет назад
M M there was a resemblance... I thought I saw something in the doc that said the artist was born 1903. If true I suppose it’s not impossible.
@oscarkallenbach9131
@oscarkallenbach9131 2 года назад
Creepy Greedy person, probably avoids taxes as well. Real gem for society
@thedude1744
@thedude1744 10 месяцев назад
The Swiss strategy is clever.
@VirtuelleGalerie
@VirtuelleGalerie Год назад
Super!👍👍👍
@williama6710
@williama6710 5 лет назад
This upload by "Best Documentary" is a thinly veiled info video giving one side of an argument in a legal dispute between some rich people.
@user-jo7wf9wf9u
@user-jo7wf9wf9u 5 лет назад
*Meanwhile us peasants............*
@CLASSICALFAN100
@CLASSICALFAN100 5 лет назад
They buy million $$ paintings, we make comments about it on RU-vid...lol
@NeilNileStudios
@NeilNileStudios 3 года назад
Note for myself: 0:33 I️ only know about freeeport because of tenet 28:00 owner of most picassos.
@667hodge
@667hodge Год назад
No honor among thieves
@nelsonx5326
@nelsonx5326 3 года назад
I the mid 70's I saw a Goya painting for sale for $20,000. The painting was 3' by 2'. Is what I saw possible?
@smvml89
@smvml89 3 года назад
-"How much for the Chagall?" -"I can't tell you that" She knows he is no billionaire that will bring prestige to their gallery. Therefore, even if he does have the money, she will say it's not for sale. The price also varies depending on the buyer.
@nickturner2813
@nickturner2813 3 года назад
She did not say it wasn't for sale, she specifically said that it is for sale, dopey.
@Johannes_Brahms65
@Johannes_Brahms65 11 месяцев назад
“In the hart of the swiss alps, a stonethrow from the french border” 😂
@jep1912
@jep1912 11 месяцев назад
He looks................ trustworthy.
@TheFiown
@TheFiown 5 лет назад
Imagine having in your care these incredible works of art and all the time in the world to make the most perfect copies. Having the original art work allows for the edges and backings to match perfectly. NOT saying it happens but it's sort of an ideal situation for some one that way inclined and these people although mega rich are just not rich enough. Wealth is a disease.
@billshire2681
@billshire2681 5 лет назад
And I am the cure.
@kurtilein3
@kurtilein3 4 года назад
This is done with porcelain, antique vases and the like. Such paintings are known and well-tracked, if you copy it and manage to sell the copy you can never sell the original, so where is the profit? You cannot even show the original because it would ruin your reputation. Better to fake a new, unknown picasso painting and find a way to sneak it into the market.
@kurtilein3
@kurtilein3 3 года назад
@Rollo Larson If it is so secretive to you, you are doing it wrong. You need to know the market.
@Tomahawk1999
@Tomahawk1999 3 года назад
wait till the russian billionaire finds out, he could find better artwork on the streets for a few hundred euros.
@lluhu
@lluhu 4 года назад
they don'tgive prices because if prices are given the potential of money speculation drops.
@FranciscoSantos-ss3uq
@FranciscoSantos-ss3uq Год назад
♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠♠♠é.. precizo de otimas ferramentas e imaginaçoes criativas com isso tudo.♠♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠🔷♠♠
@michaelbenenson
@michaelbenenson 5 лет назад
One canvas is worth more than a human being because one human being and their network concoct it thus, and that process of contrived evaluation is, in itself, not too dissimilar to a splash of paint awaiting its beaming bankers.
@robertstevenson7122
@robertstevenson7122 11 месяцев назад
What about the owners and how they lost not only their paintings but everything else ?
@BrianJosephMorgan
@BrianJosephMorgan 5 лет назад
Very interesting.
@belshah
@belshah Год назад
What's the point in all the art is noone can see it - this is a disservice to humanity for yes, you guessed it - in service of greed
@MikeMike-wc8on
@MikeMike-wc8on 2 месяца назад
When they came to story about Picasso, I switched off :-) artist lol.
@annedebthune3084
@annedebthune3084 10 месяцев назад
So very Swiss with their neutrality.
@ericsalles3393
@ericsalles3393 5 лет назад
mind boggling..
@ava4830
@ava4830 4 года назад
This shouldn't be allowed. There is no way this system is not corrupt. And the business of storing away art that will never see the light of day is just wrong. Art should be looked at, not stored away like money in a bank.
@w.urlitzer1869
@w.urlitzer1869 2 года назад
A WW3 Wine Cellar.
@danieltalis7711
@danieltalis7711 4 месяца назад
But are the spoils of war actually stolen?
@PegaGunawan
@PegaGunawan 3 года назад
🙏thank you
@kalabasrate9578
@kalabasrate9578 5 лет назад
They know its stolen art from the world that's some gangster move not cool
@didpen
@didpen 10 месяцев назад
Ecoeurant ... Le marché de l'artbruti et de l'Artnaque ! 🤑🤮🤢
@jeffblackard9753
@jeffblackard9753 Год назад
Best way to launder money.
@andrenewcomb3708
@andrenewcomb3708 5 лет назад
Rubolovlev has an achy-breaky heart. Who would've known?
@FilipinoViking
@FilipinoViking 5 лет назад
Does anyone know the art piece on 28:13 ? Im just asking for a friend
@michaelschofield5596
@michaelschofield5596 5 лет назад
I think George Condo looks a lot like his work...That would be my guess
@geliraubl
@geliraubl 4 года назад
Haha.. you,re funny indeed!!
@byronbuchanan3066
@byronbuchanan3066 11 месяцев назад
Rich people don't get rich by playing by the rules.
@kirstinetermansen7234
@kirstinetermansen7234 5 лет назад
Denmark
@geniusmodernus
@geniusmodernus 5 лет назад
"I can't give you the price" "prices aren't really mentioned in the art market"... There you go..
@jackofspades664
@jackofspades664 5 лет назад
if you're not buying stay out the kitchen. saying anything can mean millions . sometimes price goes up because of the allure,mystery etc.
@weepingwillow-ud6xl
@weepingwillow-ud6xl 4 года назад
It amuses me how money talk carries the same embarrassment as who broke wind in a crowded lift.
@leeboriack8054
@leeboriack8054 3 года назад
Interesting world of image, money, exclusivity, all driven by ego.
@SilvanaDil
@SilvanaDil 5 лет назад
Thank goodness that truly great paintings (pre-1850) were very few in this doc. I'd like to believe that the ones we see in museums account for the vast majority of those.
@trafalgerd.waterlaw3084
@trafalgerd.waterlaw3084 Год назад
Oh sweet summerchild, that is truly naive (unfortunately)
@machfiver753
@machfiver753 3 года назад
So what's wrong with the guy selling something that to begin with has speculative value for double or quintuple what he bought it for. Restaurants have markups of 6 times on the low end. All buddy has done exposing it is to reduce the value of his painting. What I'd like to know is which clerk was pissed at not being paid more or whatever it was that told the Russian guy he over paid ?
@vince1987
@vince1987 3 года назад
34:03 is the painting behind the guy at 2:23
@paulinawaas9204
@paulinawaas9204 5 лет назад
Greedy! Modigliani wasn't not even rich!
@CLASSICALFAN100
@CLASSICALFAN100 5 лет назад
Neither was Van Gogh...
@oneofbillions691
@oneofbillions691 5 лет назад
The prices listed are in Euros NOT DOLLARS!😏
@qwertylink9066
@qwertylink9066 3 года назад
But this emoji's use $, not euros... 🤑 🤭😝😂😁✌️
@nickturner2813
@nickturner2813 3 года назад
So what, everyone watching can see that and the difference is academic.
@maweibezahn
@maweibezahn 3 года назад
€, not $!
@SuperXrunner
@SuperXrunner 5 лет назад
These people talk about millions in dollars for some dusty paintings while people starve. The world is one fucked up place
@lr937
@lr937 5 лет назад
He is t kind of guy that walks in a car dealership and pays FULL MSRP AND THEN SOME😂😂😂
@CLASSICALFAN100
@CLASSICALFAN100 5 лет назад
He owns the dealership...
@jamesanonymous2343
@jamesanonymous2343 5 лет назад
"I'll show you mine, If you show me yours", Lust for art and wealth. All mentally ill, all enjoying it ! They call it heritage, culture!
@kurtilein3
@kurtilein3 4 года назад
Buy art from living artists, the dead ones do not need the money.
@fabiodreyer2079
@fabiodreyer2079 8 месяцев назад
In certi posti al mondo non esistono leggi e regole e sarà così per sempre...
@anonymousfellowindian
@anonymousfellowindian 5 лет назад
The lady is trying to be over smart. She is the one who wants to eat and keep her cake at the same time.
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