The bloodlines and powers of the Hecata Clan 

The corpse copying thing could be used to mess with people. Someone murdered your Ghoul? Copy their copse visage and then come after them, psychological warfare. Want to play the guy who hunts murders? Copy his victims and come after him. It has some really cool implications/applications.

I'm keen on running a game where everyone is a diffrent "Hecata". The basic idea is that their "club house" is destroyed by the Inquisition and they escape , insert convoluted coming of age ritual that had the players buried. They make it to a Camarilla city and a game of Stranger in a strange land happens.

Out of all the changes made by v5, i think this is the one that i like the most. It really enriches the setting and lore much more from what it was with the Giovanni.

I love Necromancy.

i feel i would definately want to try to play out some kind of good hearted necromancer. i mean yeah the lazuris ritual is pretty dark, being that you're taking a random spirit and putting it back into a body. but i love the idea of having a Hecata vampire who was in their mortal life one of those dime a dozen gypsies, with a little back alley fortune telling shop doing tarot car deading and palm readings, back room seances, and selling trinkets and things. but in reality some of the rituals were real and actually worked, this got the attention of the Hecata and made them a target for the Embrace. certainly an idea

If I play a Hecata, I'm for sure going to play a fucking Puttanesca! God I love that flavortext

I would love to play a Dunsirn/Giovanni that's entirely focused on beating the Ventrue and Toreador at their own game. All sorts of quiet connections to Wall Street and slowly bleeding away at the influence held by the Clan of Kings.

Great Clans/Bloodlines for enhancing the horrror element of VTM, especially the Nagaraja and Lamia.

"there's a lot of really high cost, high risk abilities" Well, I know what Josh's next VTM character will be

The Cappadocians were among my favorite clans in the older versions, mostly because of their aesthetics.

I would love to watch a longer breakdown of the full Cult of the Blood Gods book and your thoughts on it. This was really fascinating to listen to!

I'm glad you can feasibly play as a Cappadocian again. Though I do hope they maintain their corpse like appearance for a less damaging bite.

I'm definitely hoping to make a Cappadocian/Harbinger of Skulls bloodline character because I have liked that clan since first playing VtM: Redemption. I love the idea of being a vampire that can raise an undead horde; it combines two of my greatest loves. I was never really into the Giovanni's more spirit-centric brand of necromancy, though that is probably the more "realistic" variant, because as you mentioned necromancy did originally mean divination through communing with spirits of the dead. But I've always liked the more fantastical version of raising undead servants via magic. I suppose with these new ceremonies, any bloodline could do that regardless, but I just simply have a fondness for the Cappadocian/Harbingers. The Samedi seem really interesting to me too because they get Obfuscate, which is great for stealthy characters, another type that I tend to make a lot of. Really the only bloodlines that I don't necessarily care for are the Giovanni and the Duncern (?). I could easily see myself playing as any of the others though.

I've played a Lamia. It's awesome making zombies!

I mean depending how fresh the corpse is a Samedi could take on a different appearance without having Mask of Many Faces. Also the ability makes them able to look like their former, corpse like selfes, so that probably comes in handy when pretending to be dead or visiting your old Nosferatu pals in the sewers

I like to think the samedi corpse ability is like the Toy Story “Andy’s coming!” Thing

I agree that the function of linking Oblivion ceremonies most likely is intended to prevent Lasombra characters from commanding the dead (at least without good justification) & Hecata characters from manipulating shadow. I *adore* the entirity of Cults of the Blood Gods. And I can't wait to one day use the childe-of-a-Harbinger, Giovanni descendent I rolled up with these. I also do like how the book explicitly gives the option to treat prior Loresheets like "Descendent of Helena" as if they were bloodlines, and PCs can opt into multiple loresheets so long as one of them is a bloodline & both make sense.

A friend is going to play with the children of Tenochtitlan (Tenochtitlan is the old name of Mexico City when it was founded by the Mexicas/Aztecs). Later I will tell everyone how he used his skills. Btw, Omg you look so handsome with this look.

The Cappadocians would use a corpse appearing ability to hide among other corpses from hunters or anyone else looking for them. In this case you can look like someone who your pursuers KNOW is dead.

imagine a character that is from the cappadocian bloodline within hecata, they were turned in the dark ages and have survived till modern day, and they keep their mom/dad's spirit bound to them with their favorite item a necklace/pocketwatch or some other trinket, and you essentially have an immortal child like that girl from interview with a vampire, buuut they naievely are using necromancy so they arn't alone.

Corpse copying could be used for two fold reasons. 1) Replacing a corpse you murdered OR you found to see who comes to check. Then ambush the person as that figure. Or you turn into a corpse of someone that an enemy is close to or cares about. OR a corpse of someone that a person murdered just to prove you know they are dead to blackmail someone.

VtM is just the best. I'm in my 30s and still haven't played a TTRPG, but if I ever do, I'd want it to be VtM. Great video, Josh, and that mustache is looking perky today. :D As far as Hecata bloodlines I would want to play as...either Cappadocian or Nagaraja. Cappadocians are interesting since they've been in hiding for so long and are the original Kindred necromancers of a sort. Nagaraja would be very interesting if you tried to play someone trying to be moral by only killing the worst people, and as the food sources dwindle over time, or are unavailable, where do you move "the line" of what constitutes a bad person for you to justify your kills? So most nights it's murderers and rapists, and somewhere over time it becomes people who simply angered you over something petty or who have different political beliefs, etc. It's that slow dwindling of trying to do the right thing and eventually realizing the monster you've become, continuing to kill and kinda hoping in your subconscious that someone will come along and destroy you...because now YOU are the worst kind of person that you would have gladly consumed so many nights ago.

RE: corpse copying, could you just disguise yourself as someone else? Eg. If you were a mortician, or a coroner, you would come across a lot of corpses and disguise yourself as them, giving yourself decent ability to sneak around?

I think of a coroner/crime scene cleaner type. I mean fuck the camarilla and their rules. With that constant hunger everybody fucks up sometimes and who is taking care of the masquerade then? it is good to have somebody to call and clean up. for a price of course: either in silver or in favor. It requires trust and professionality since you will know some dark secrets.

Thank You!! Josh for the info. I was concerned that the Hecata would share shadow powers with the Lasombra, but you cleared it up. I absolutely love both Obtenebration and Necromancy. But Obtenebration belongs to the Lasombra and Necromancy belongs to the Hecata.

Picked Hecata here.

"You can do what you do best as a Dunsirn, and that is bleed people dry," and then eat what's left. I don't think I'd play one of those cannibals. They didn't include the Maeghar or Kiasyd, sadface. Out of those options I would build either a Harbinger or Samedi. They're both very interesting clans. ^_^ Speaking of the Samedi... This is an excerpt from V20 - Lore of the Bloodlines. It's the 1st character concept listed for the Samedi. "Body Double You make looking like a dead guy work for you. Sometimes, a dead body is needed to convince the authorities that someone is dead. You provide that body - your own - for a fee. A work night usually means a ride to the morgue or the funeral home (it helps to have someone there on your payroll). You might slip out the back or you might pay them off at the end of the night. Occasionally, you have to dig up a grave and climb inside when someone starts snooping around a Kindred playing much younger and more alive than they really are. The important thing is that the paperwork says there’s a body where the body is supposed to be. If some hunter digs up the grave in a few years, it’s not your problem. Unless they want to renegotiate at the end of the night."

I plan on being a spirit binder who talks to the dead

Very soon I’ll be starting a little chronicle with a group of goth lesbians and now all I want to do is throw in a baddass repentant Nagaraja who hunts down killers and brutally murders them to justify the decades she spent as a cannibal. Talk about a love interest am I right?

Great Breakdown Hoping someone goes Hecata for season 3 :D

i just did the Quiz to see what clan i belonged to, and aparently i'm a Hecata, i had no clue this clan even existed.

Pisanobs!! My favourite and about time we rise from the ashes in vengeance against the Harbingers! *Blows Death Whistle!*

Does your loresheet have to match up with your disciplines? Can you be an Aztec Nagaraja with auspex, dominate, and oblivion with the aztec bloodline loresheet and bonuses to rituals?

Nice. Wish they would send out the manuscript to us backers already.

Copying the looks of a corpse has a whole lot of uses. A whole lot. It is very interesting to see people new to the VtM series, and how intrigued they are about the bloodlines mentioned in v5. It makes me feel old, that almost none of the storyline information is "new" to me, just slight twists and variations of the old stuff. Also, interesting how people pronounce things so different than their origin's intended cadence and sounds.

Always play a naga, why be just a vampire when you can chow down

I love the lore and the name of the harbingers of skulls, I was going to make one when I get the book, but after what you said about the powers of lamia I really don't know, biting people to disease them and make them suffer and paralyze them with your look is exactly my thing but I want to look like corpse and have the mask of the harbingers, can you inherit two bloodlines? like when you die they make ritual and put blood of both bloodlines inside you, you get all the curses and the powers? I mean harbingers and lamia are both cappadocians in orgin so you can mix their blood easily right? maybe we should call the mix "the harbingers of death" because that next level creepy necromancer, as for the disciplines, can you learn the lasombra oblivion as well as the hecata oblivion by getting lasombra to teach you? I just can't figure which one is best between lamia and harbingers really, they are the best two.

I checked out the two previews as well and I quite like the Family Reunion thing although I had a few WTF moments while reading it. While bringing the bloodlines together seems logical at first glance, the need for that didn't seem all too convincing given the hatered and antagonism between the Caps and the Giovanni in the previous editions. Ok, the turmoil with the wraiths happened, Augustus is gone (dead but not really dead), the second inquisition took out a lot of the Giovanni (Although the V5 Camarilla sourcebook mentions Venice as one of the safest cities in the region, which is a bit weird), but is it really enough for such a massive "merger". The unique clan banes have been replaced by a single one which totally changes the game for Samedi and the Cappadocian-related bloodlines (it's sort of implied that you can look like a corpse but you don't have to, at least as I understood it), I think its a double edged sword for the players who want to create non-Giovanni chatacters - the game will be the same for all of them, you'll have to look for drama elsewhere (compare this to the Nosferatu bane which defines the game for this clan no matter what kind of character you create). Also the structure of the bloodlines is weird - the Milliners, Duncirn, Putanesca are all part of the grand Giovanni family but now they are listed as separate bloodlines which may be confusing for some players. Necromancy and Ceremonies are ok and although there are no paths now, they seemed alright in terms of variety. The only thing to keep in mind is that the requirements are draconian now, which makes Necromancy the mist complicated kind of magic for the player (it involves stains, human sacrifice for high level ceremonies, the discipline only works in dark places, etc.). In general the system seems more simple in structure but harder to master in the game world which is rather cool. I liked the Giovanni before and their clanbook is the best in VTM, so I'm waiting to see the final version of the rules. They were a very unuque clan and playing them felt kind of exclusive since not so many people seemed to like them or choose them. V5 feels like it's trying to bring the Clan of Death closer to the masses but with the slight inconsistency in the lore, one clan bane for All bloodlines and Necromancy being part of Oblivion (hi, Lasombra), they've lost a lot of the former version's original appeal. Although I'm playing a V5 chronicle now, what the Necromancers are made to become in V5 really makes me want to check out V20.

I will create a SPC of Hecata clan wich is called Giorno Giovanni with medicine and he will create a zombie of Bruno. I cant avoid this 😂

so i don't know about all of these bloodlines but surely with something like the nagaraja making an introduction as a playable character bloodline, there HAS to be an alternative to the "path of humanity" or are they realy gonna keep pulling this "ohh i dont know how i feel about this" card about all of this ? i mean if "I" am supposed to be the monster.. let me be monstrous !? please !???

MINDHUNTER FAN REPRESENT

Samedi are really great at April fools or being extras on CSI? Idk why you’d want to impersonate a corpse.

I am one of the few who cannot stand what they did to these clans by clumping them into one group and giving them all the same clan weaknesses. That and the clan symbol is absolutely terrible. I actually ended up pulling my support on the kickstarter project when I realized the direction they took these clans in. On the bright side it made me exclusively a V20 player.

Ils pouvaient pas les appeler cappadocien, comme avant au lieu de nous sortir un nouveau clan du chapeau magique ? La cinquième édition c'est vraiment n'importe quoi !

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copying the dead could be an interesting ability for a b rated reality show. aka derek acorah style. but this time you actually transform into their visage, and say your pre discussed dialogue to swindle others out of money. let people think you are inhabited by their ghost, and get information or waht ever you want from them....