The Bombing of Hamburg (1943) - Most Deadly Allied Bombing of Germany 

Any interest of making an episode about the first time berlin was bombed? It was by a french bomber.

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@@mordok7987 Mark Felton did a good job on that.

😡Did the Germans start the war..!? DID THE GERMANS START THE WAR..!? *DID THE GERMANS START THE WAR..!?* 😡

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And people wonder why so many Germans fought to the last man

Oh, I'm sorry, some civilians are more equal than others? Some deserve to be tortured, starved to death, experimented on, and so on, but god forbid you touch the people that benefit from that shit. They got what they deserved. More cities should have been bombed. Talk to a holocaust survivor if you think otherwise.

@@marmalade9104 if you read my comment I said it’s always terrible, meaning be it London, Hamburg, Kyiv, Guernica. Imagine having children and trying to protect and comfort them in that hell😢

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@@mammuchan8923 Hitler said, ''The individual has no value, it's the survival of the state, that matter's.'' Stalin had a equal distain for life, saying ''I've got more bullet's than Hitler has troops''. Between them, they callously wasted millions of lives, needlessly. The Allies weren't Angels, but there was no evidence for deliberate, mass murder.

Those civilians produce food, equipment and ammunition for armed forces. They supply recruits to those forces, everything those armed services use is civilian produced. Why therefore is targetting civilians so immoral ? As for Area Bombing, in 1977 it is deemed unlawful. However, for the British between 1940 and 1944 the only weapon they had was Bomber Command. To do nothing in those years, against the main enemy would go a long way to losing the war. Losing the war would be the greater immorality. The Allies did not lose the war. As Harris said, Bombing had not been tried as a method of winning the war. In the last year of the war Allied Strategic Bombers became ever more capable. A large raid could deliver more explosive than all the V-weapons in total. I will suggest that persons wearing rose-tinted spectacles are divorced from reality in 2023. A few voices in the West objected to the morality of bombing. Even more did not. When I asked my 90 year old Mother (East End London) whether she had any morality issues with Bombing Germany, she replied "Not in the slightest". I suspect she had seen the East End on fire and British dead in the streets.

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Very brutal times yes.

@@HistoryHustle Murder civilians. Yours will be murdered.

@@patriciabrenner9216 In your next life you are assured of good karma.

It was also a tactic to draw in the fire services who then received the HE explosives a tactic used by Germany.

London May 10th 1941

Oh, America and Britain liked to burn citizens alive, they did same thing in Japan.

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Amazing post, thanks for this info.

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@chen661 Britain and France stood by their guarantee of Poland's border and declared war on Germany on September 3, 1939. But what did they really do for Poland? They declared war on Germany but what about the Soviet Invasion on Sept. 17th, 1939? Both the British and French governments had a small contingent of troops in Warsaw with the aim of helping Poland evacuate its gold reserves should Warsaw be threatened. Was this gold owed to the British and French for the reckless Treaty of Versailles? The British did not assist Poland by land or sea but RAF Bomber Command flew several missions against German targets. A number of these air raids were directed at Kriegsmarine (German Navy) warships in German ports to prevent their use in the Battle of the Atlantic. With the front lines static between September 1939 and May 1940, a period known as the "Phoney War" set in, with little fighting on land or in the air. The Battle of the Heligoland Bight[6][7] was the first "named" air battle of the Second World War, which began the longest air campaign of the war, the Defense of the Reich. The Anglo-Soviet Agreement was a formal military alliance that was signed by the United Kingdom and the Soviet Union against Nazi Germany on July 12, 1941, shortly after the beginning of Operation Barbarossa, the German invasion of the Soviet Union. That is two years later!!! Some 13.5 million Polish citizens who fell under the military occupation were made Soviet subjects following show elections conducted by the NKVD secret police in an atmosphere of terror,[12][13][14] the results of which were used to legitimize the use of force. A Soviet campaign of political murders and other forms of repression, targeting Polish figures of authority such as military officers, police and priests, began with a wave of arrests and summary executions.[Note 5][15][16] The Soviet NKVD sent hundreds of thousands of people from eastern Poland to Siberia and other remote parts of the Soviet Union in four major waves of deportation between 1939 and 1941.[Note 6] Russia is still a problem to say the least. Putin thinks he can chum-up to the Chinese. By 2040, the Chinese border will be next to Finland.

@chen661 It is true that the U.K. bombed first but not terror bombing. The total of terror bombing by the end of the war was not mostly done by the German Luftwaffe. At the beginning of the war, the German military did most of the terror bombing. The British did the first bombing on German soil. The British did not assist Poland by land or sea but RAF Bomber Command flew several missions against German targets. This is different than terror bombing. If you have other information about dates and events please share them at least with me. Stefan does an excellent job. I'm sure if he is mistaken, he would have the courage to admit to this and correct it. But you need to put in the work and the time in addition to any common sense. Perhaps technically the attack on Poland was a Blitzkrieg and not a technical terror bombing. But this is 6 and one half dozen of the other. In other words, it is the same thing.

@chen661 If 900,000 people were evacuated, how could 180,000 been injured and almost 40,000 be dead? It was a city of 1 million unless I am mistaken, 900,000 evacuated + 180,000 injured + 40,000 dead = 1,120,000 people. Something is very wrong with the death toll, evacuation numbers and the injured. Or the population was well over 1 million or they were not able to give accurate numbers because of the people that were incinerated and the inability to find and identify corpses. It was such a chaotic hell that the manpower and ability to count was limited.

The German population of the era supported a leader who started a war which led to the deaths of tens of millions worldwide. Please tell me why we should be focused on 40,000 Germans who were bombed, and not on 6 million systematically killed in the camps these Germans were running?

@@porkyfedwell The bombing was a crime against humanity. Germans are human as was everyone else. The use of the atomic bombs were not necessary. They just wanted live targets to test on. The Japanese were in the process of surrendering. Did Henry Kissinger actually say: "Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy"? Essentially, yes. This quote comes from a book called "The Final Days," by Woodward & Bernstein (the Washington Post reporters who cracked the Watergate case). "Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used" are Kissinger's words; "as pawns for foreign policy" is a paraphrase. Kissinger made this comment in 1973 in front of Alexander Haig, then newly appointed White House chief of staff. Read "Masters of War".

You live in a fantasy world. What about what the Germans did to millions of children, handicapped people and the Jews? An American soldier enter a camp and inside a room he saw thousands and thousands of babies and children shoes. I hope you get it. Yes, those German bastards were torturing and gassing children.

​@@mirquellasantos2716 Why do you think EVERY German participated in the Holocaust?? It's people like you, who blame entire populations for the crimes of a few, who have always been the greatest problem.

@@patriciabrenner9216 your Statement is just as extreme as the Nazis. You say a whole country lost the right to life. That is crazy.

@@Heineken1712 No. This is the result of their crimes. 6 millions Jews were murdered by the Germans, 90 percent of European Jews. So 90 percent of Germans should have met the same fate. Among the murdered was most of my family. An eye for an eye!

@@Heineken1712 Moreover don't try the gambit of women and children. The women cheered the Nazis and partook in the loot taken from the victims. As to the children, given what the Germans did to millions of Jewish, Polish, Russian, Czech, French children etc. who cares about German children?

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My former German neighbour came from Hamburg and she told me similar stories, 30 cm could mean the difference between life or death in a blast, losing friends. Having to walk out of the shelter seeing the children, men and women who weren't able te reach the shelter in time, and the use of phosphorus, jumping in water doesn't help against it, because it keeps burning...

Read the book Hellstorm it’s brutal what happened to the citizens of Hamburg! As well as Dresden, Frankfurt etc. Churchill and Roosevelt are every bit the war criminals. The victors write the history there is no doubt.

How can you be objective with murderers. This is what the Germans were then.

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Hi Janice, thank you for your informative comment. I was born in St Petersburg , then Leningrad. The beautiful city was bombarded by Germans for 3 years non stop.

@@valerytaubin8728 And yet the germans (well, some of them) still have the audacity to cry about bombings of Berlin, Kiel, Dresden, Hamburg etc... in war that they had started

There's also a town in Poland called Frampol. It's a small village and had zero military significance whatsoever. On September 13, 1939 it was leveled to dust by the Luftwaffe because it was shaped like a bullseye, and they wanted to test their bombers for future bombing missions. They strafed civilians trying to flee here as well. Half of the towns population was killed, and even today its population is only a quarter of what it was pre-war.

@@Jiji-the-cat5425 Frampol with a population of 4,000, was bombed by the German Luftwaffe as a practice run for future missions. It is estimated that 90% of the town was completely destroyed - only two streets remained untouched, including some houses on the outskirts. Frampol was destroyed by the bombers of Luftwaffe’s 8th Air Corps, under General Wolfram Freiherr von Richthofen. According to Polish historians Pawel Puzio and Ryszard Jasinski no units of the Polish army were stationed in Frampol and the town did not have any military facilities.

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Imagine living and dying in Aushwitz. This is why the criminal Germans got exactly what they deserved.

May I ask where in Hamburg? I was there a while ago and remember seeing a lot of old buildings like the Town Hall (really impressive!) in the downtown area and in Altona/Blankenese, but exclusively new buildings in Borgfelde and Hammerbrook; Hammerbrook had mostly industrial buildings and my travel partner did not feel comfortable there at night. The round brick tower building at Berliner Tor looked old though, if you know which building I am referring to. I have seen old pictures of some of the streets we were at in Borgfelde and Hammerbrook like Hammerbrookstraße and Ausschläger Weg and they looked so much more beautiful then than they do today, with mainly modern buildings. It truly is a terrible loss, but it's even more painful to think about the civilian loss. It's a stark reminder that war is not black and white; World War 2 tends to be painted up as such, but learning about things like this makes you realize that the best way to fight a war is to end it, preferably prevent it, without bloodshed and animosity. I hope today's ongoing wars will come to such conclusions. On a lighter note, Hamburg is a really lovely city and a big contributing factor is the canals, rivers and lakes, and the fact how green it is. I would love to visit again someday. Cheers!

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I agree It looks so fake and boring like it's a 90's video game..Repeated patterns.

You should visit Coventry. Equally shit.

Shouldn't have started the war.

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I read about it. Also there is a place called Blumenau, right? Lots of people there have german names.

@@Heineken1712 Yes. In blumenau happens the biggest Oktoberfest outside Germany. Nearby Blumenau, there is Pomerode, founded by Pomeranians in 1861 and is considered the "most typically erman of all german towns of southern Brazil". Actually, I live 622 km south from there. My ancestors were hunsrückers. Thank you, DethnDecay!

@@marcoskehl I would love to visit these places some day.

One 1000 four engine bomber raid dropped more bombs on a German city then London seen in the entire war.

@@Crashed131963 yet everyone weeps about England this and that. What a joke right?

In Rotterdam also a fire storm occurred but far less deadly.

@@AtlasAugustus england gave what it was given..no sympathy here for germans in that respect...did the german people weep when the uk and other european nations were being heavily bombed..morality doesn't come into it..the germans wanted total war and got it with interest.

@@HistoryHustle ... since Rotterdam was a much smaller city.....

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A pity. And remember the bombing of Warsaw. Action reaction.

I understand.

Indeed.

Civilians innocent? What are soldiers guilty of that civilians are not? Hate that term "innocents" civilians. Civilians are the lucky ones who don't have to fight and afforded protection by law, while the soldiers are the ones fighting for the civilians liberty?

@@alastair9446 Politically incorrect but CORRECT post

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War isn't like a game of dominoes down the pub, winning is everything. Would you rather the Nazis won?.

The Nazi killed millions of people. War is cruel but at times necessary.

War is always sad. But you reap what you sow in this life and that was particularly the case with Germany and particulaly major city populations. Germany did the same in Guernica, Spain. In Warsaw and other Polish cities. In Stalingrad and other Russian Cities. Think of what they did to Jews throughout Europe. The German population overwhelmingly supported Hitler and the Nazis whilst they were carrying all before them and winning.. So to try and claim that carpet bombing of German Cities was in some way evil is to totally ignore what they had been doing for years. Unfortunately it was war. War is evil. But if you start one there is every likely hood it will come back to bite you. You only have to look at the Russia "Special Operation" in Ukraine which is almost certainly going to end badly for them

...MAYBE THE GERMANS SHOULD HAVE CONSIDERED THE CONSEQUENCES BEFORE THEY STARTED THAT GODDAM WAR IN EUROPE!!! AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED- 1- ALL THAT THE GERMANS GOT WAS A GODDAM GOOD TASTE OF THEIR OWN MEDICINE, AND 2- THE GERMANS DIDN'T SUFFER NEARLY ENOUGH FOR ALL OF THE DEATH AND DESTRUCTION THAT THEY INFLICTED ON THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!

​@@anthonyyoung9580...YOU SUMMED IT UP PRETTY WELL-!!!

Thanks Richard.

I understand. Still topic of debate today.

The aggressor makes the rules. If the Germans didn't start bombing civilians, I doubt the Allies would have.

sorry, no, its not the same. technology today means military targets can be pinpointed and hit with "smart weapons". they don't even need send aircrew - they send drones - over enemy airspace... The 1940's RAF could only area bomb and then at night to avoid heavy losses to fighters. some 55k RAF Bomber Command personnel were KIA in ww2 .. thats heavier than the total killed of USMC in the Pacific theatre. the US bombed by day from 1943, but their accuracy was actually no better than RAF night-bombing. despite claims of "dropping bombs into apple barrels" with Norden sights. they even bombed Switzerland..

Heute wissen wir das das bombardieren der Bevölkerung wirklich nichts bringt und kontraproduktiv ist…..diese Geschichtsstunde hat Putin anscheinend verschlafen…..aber die Zivilbevölkerung hat erlebt was Krieg bedeutet,was nach dem ersten Weltkrieg in Deutschland nicht unbedingt der Fall war ….

It is wrong too. See ww2 war against humanity series.

Germany Shouldn't have started the war in the first place..!

@@woodenseagull1899 Wait, so EVERY person in Germany -- including children and babies -- started and supported the war? Who knew.

@@woodenseagull1899 And Allies should have not taken so much land from Germany at the end of ww1. Go play the blame game some where else.

Nice city for a visit.

That is what the allied learned during WWII. The psychologic aim of the plan was a failure and beside, the bombings of German cities killed quite a number of slaves working in the German factories.

I can imagine he said that.

He certainly said it.

Hope to cover more on this topic in the future.

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Yes, for sure.

I can understand.

It could have been higher in 44 and 45.

Brutal times.

@@HistoryHustle I have read at least 10 books about the WWII and I am always shocked by the brutality of our allied forces. Anyway..

Not sure. It used to be a fairly left wing city. Also today.

Didnt know this. Thanks for sharing.

You forget Rotterdam, that was mostly ruined AFTER the war, since the authorities weren't interested in a restoration

It why I skipped Germany on my European trip. I wanted historical buildings to see not replicas. Could you imagine the Roman Colosseum being bombed to the ground and replaced . Would you want to see a replica that looked alot like it? When you put your hand on the wall of the Colosseum, you know a Roman citizen at a gladiator fight may have touched the same spot.

Yes, mention them in my KNIL video.

It was brutal yes.

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That's where it came down to.

@@HistoryHustle The German people cheered the Nazis. They were accomplices. So you can say criminals paid for their crimes.

I lost my family when the RAF attacked my hometown on december 1944. I was 9 months old. My Question: My familiy wasn´t Nazis. Why should they pay for the Nazy-Crimes? Please answer me!!!! Have you also lost your familiy? Was you also a war orphan? Please answer me. God will listen to you!

I think you'll find there were also plenty of innocent people killed in Guernica, Warsaw, Rotterdam, Coventry and London. Not to mention the Holocaust. Unfortunately, the Nazis represented Germany at that time and so German cities were legitimate targets. Are any wars conducted with men on the ground killing only those responsible?

@@phil7132 The blame for all the mischief are not just those who commit it, but also those who don´t prevent it (Erich Kästner)

Steve I’m glad you mentioned those artillery pieces. That aspect of the bombing campaign is rarely mentioned but itv hastened the end of the war.

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That's where it came down to.

And Liege, in August 1914, plus the shelling of the east coast towns.

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True.

I believe that was the case.

From what understand the fires sucks out all the oxygen so if you in a shelter you die unless it is airtight. Other accounts I've read about these bombings is people just collapse in the street because of no oxygen.

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@@HistoryHustle I wonder why you cannot understand the perspective of the victims. The Germans were a monstruous murderous people then.

@@patriciabrenner9216 Nothing beats a simple worldview. When you know who the bad guy is, the day has structure. However, your words lack compassion, empathy and humanity. This is the same misanthropic attitude as the perpetrators of the Third Reich had.

It became universally wrong only after (and because of) WWII.

@@BangFarang1 "Became?" Was what Germany did perhaps not wrong until later, in hindsight, also? How does this work?

@@Christmas-dg5xc In the point of view of many people living before WWII, it was perfectly correct to target enemy civilians, as it was deemed perfectly correct for civilians to take arms and target enemy soldiers. Watch the movie "The Patriot", the guy even enroll his son as a child soldier. Why did they need to create the Red Cross flag and brassard to protect the civilian surgeons and nurses from being killed on the battlefield if civilians weren't targeted? How many indigenous civilians have been killed by Custer in the Far West, how many all over Asia and Africa? How many Boers in South Africa, etc. etc. It is the scale and the industrial killing method of the nazi that shocked the western world and triggered awareness that led to forbid the killing of civilians under all circumstance (except colateral damage). Some decades before, the genocide of the Armenian didn't get many condamnations because they were killed by gun and starvation. Less impresive than Buchenwald.

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​@@anthonyeaton5153 How is this not a war crime

@@anthonyeaton5153 And why do you think you could address me with "buddy"?

I am Dutch. Different country.

See video.

Except that many Germans didn't agree with the nazi regime but had no choice than to suffer it. Beside many prisoners working as slaves in the factories have been killed too.

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True. What is your point?

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Very well said Craig. Those who so the wind…..

@@anthonyeaton5153 This was what bomber Harris said...

Could very well be yes.

Oh I thought Coventry was revenge for the RAF bombing Berlin ...

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