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The BONKERS Caterham 420R is far more practical than you'd think... 

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@adamhurst4714
@adamhurst4714 2 года назад
Why do people harp on about Caterham’s and practicality? It’s ridiculous! I have a blast in mine and then use the Audi or the Golf to do the practical things. Enjoy it for what it is…
@IverKnackerov
@IverKnackerov 2 года назад
Because the video of that, would be utterly dull?
@ukmitch86
@ukmitch86 2 года назад
The Audi or the Golf lol. What a c u next Tuesday
@jonathanjenkins8630
@jonathanjenkins8630 Год назад
Many people cannot afford 2 cars. Buy a Caterham and get the weekly shop delivered! 😊
@GK1976A
@GK1976A Год назад
I use one of my other 57 other cars to do stuff. What a complete wanker. Why don’t you just write ‘I’m loaded and you lot are a bunch of plebs’?
@jamescruz8678
@jamescruz8678 Год назад
Because it isn't practical lmao
@kartoffelpommes3138
@kartoffelpommes3138 2 года назад
Quick tip: If you have the full roof on, there is a zipper to open the rear window in the roof to let hot air out.
@jon7915-u9i
@jon7915-u9i 2 года назад
Additionally, just leave the doors unfastened and you get more air flowing though
@sambhrantlamba
@sambhrantlamba 2 года назад
@@jon7915-u9i removing doors might not be a going idea while going through a puddle during rain
@simoncoppingongoogle850
@simoncoppingongoogle850 Год назад
I've had 3 now and they are additive. The first back in '99 was my only car and i drove 16k miles a year for four years. The hood is a life saver when it's sleeting & snowing. It has stiched in guttering to stop the water going down your back when you get in and out. The rear window zips open to get your shopping in the boot and the screen is heated to stop it misting up. There's a tensioner built into the hood sticks to tention it so it doesn't even flap at a steady 85mph. The lower section of the doors lift up and stay up by the air flow above 30mph to create a good breeze if it suddenly turns sunny. The heater will blow cold as well as hot air. Getting in and out isn't so easy but you soon learn to do a kind of tumble forward manoeuvre like Tony Alcock at the Crown Green Bowls. I think its easier than an Elise due to the narrow sill. Plenty of companies like OMP and Sparco make narrow leather shoes suitable for the office. The only consession I ever made was rolling my left trouser leg like a Free Mason due to an occasional drip from the scuttle during a long journey in the rain. I probably could have sealed it but it was never really a problem. Many reviews sign off that you have to be some kind of petrolhead masochist to buy one, but that's because they only keep them for a short time and don't learn about using the weather gear properly. Don't be put off thinking you can't run a Seven every day, just look for someone on a motorbike and think you've got it easy!
@whatsupbudbud
@whatsupbudbud Год назад
Yeah, sounds about right. I probably won't be in a situation to ride something like this but my Volvo C30 is also much smaller than most cars around where I live. People kind of like it for its sporty feel and easy parking due to small size but somehow want 4 doors for their cars even though they seldom use more than two. It's a weird thing. I also ride an electric unicycle with full motorcycle gear and the same thing goes for most people - they mostly love the idea at first but are getting thrown off by the extra things that involve safely operating these vehicles at high velocities. But hey, I'm sure happy we're having fun with the smaller cars and such.
@SureSkill
@SureSkill Год назад
Did you park it in a garage overnight? I'd love to get one as a daily but unfortunately my house doesn't have a garage!
@koitorob
@koitorob 11 месяцев назад
I had a Robin Hood 7. Not as posh as a Caterham(or as quick) but a similar driving experience. I never bought the hood. Made do with a tonneau cover instead. If it rained i wore a crash helmet. Initially i had no screen at all but after a few months made up my own screen out of a sheet of poly carb which was angled back about 20 degrees and was about 6 inches high in the centre and tapered off to nothing at the ends. I found that even when freezing cold i could slide down the seat enough to keep warm with the helmet on at any speed.
@paulgardner9763
@paulgardner9763 2 года назад
I took delivery of a 420R with the SV large chassis in December. I'd had a test drive of one, never driven one before. Your observations are spot on in so many ways; the time it takes to warm the tyres when a car has so little weight is terribly important and IF I'm unlucky enough to be on a wet road I'll drive it like a baby carriage ! I've owned some very powerful sports cars but this is the best thing I've ever tried. The steering is incredible. I didn't go for the 620 as I like the soundtrack of naturally aspirated engines; not into supercharger whine personally, thank God I didn't as only a complete pilot could want more than the 420 delivers. A great car with one of Ford's great engines. And a great review, well done !
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
Thanks Paul! Glad you are enjoying the 420 🙌🏼
@thecornishbiker9323
@thecornishbiker9323 Год назад
Im considering getting a 420sv to use as a hire car in cornwall. Have you had any issues with yours? Would you say they are super reliable as id only be able to get one and wouldn't want to let customers down . Cheers for any info you could give.
@deseast1267
@deseast1267 2 года назад
Just had a great drive in my x-flow Seven, back home through the Dartford tunnel, great noise and jets of flames from the exhaust on downshifts and the best bit... I was only doing between 50 to 40 mph so you can enjoy these cars even at low speeds and without endangering your licence.
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
They are absolutely epic!
@ianscott3180
@ianscott3180 11 месяцев назад
I had a 1700 x-flow and loved the noise. I upgraded to a Cosworth BDR which made an even better noise. I lived near the start of the M3 and there is a bit of an underpass an the A316 just before the motorway. Down a gear and up the revs! My wife used to say, why do you always do that. Because I can was the reply.😀
@Strider9655
@Strider9655 4 месяца назад
Unfortunately, from experience, they do attract quite a lot of negative attention and do trigger certain other drivers, namely vans and 4x4s (and now SUVs).
@Marktherock
@Marktherock 2 года назад
I’ve had a 420 for a few years can be quite practical if you plan well… my tips would be … buy a half hood as they are much better than the full hood and always drive with the lights on especially as you have the LED headlights
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
Two tips I picked up through my weekend with one!
@ianscott3180
@ianscott3180 11 месяцев назад
A tonneau is very handy too.
@simonjones5614
@simonjones5614 2 года назад
I have a 420R and you are correct - getting enough heat into the tyres in the wet is difficult. On a cold (
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
Haha, I gathered that from my cold tyre experiences!
@SamWorthReviewing
@SamWorthReviewing 2 года назад
Absolutely love these! Although they're not practical for every day use, I'd still pick one over any SUV! Haha. Awesome colour, too!
@robertwillis4061
@robertwillis4061 Год назад
I have a self built (kit car) Robin Hood Exmo 25 years old. A 7 type replica. Used it regularly for 8+ months of the year for first 12 years. Did the weekly shop, visited friends etc used it as much as practical. Wife is/ was happy to be out in most weather. Ok roof let's rain in but so what; a small tarpaulin sorts that, when parked up Changed job so couldn't use it as daily car due to needing a big boot. Still have her, but has been off road for 4 years - moved house, needs timing belt and some new bushes n stuff. But still there, once house refurbishment is done.
@guss2099
@guss2099 8 месяцев назад
The only reason I don’t drive my Westie SE every day is because anyone can jump in and drive off if parked on the street and folk don’t respect it when is parked as well, came to find someone trying to get in for pictures after leaving outside a coffee shop in the highlands for 30 seconds.🤦🏻‍♂️
@drew699
@drew699 2 года назад
Great review. My Caterham K series (270BHP PT) was the best car I have ever owned & your pure joy of driving that 7 brings back wisps of that- I know exactly what you are experiencing there! People fantasise about a Fezza/Lambo/Mac/Porker etc but I really don’t think that they are as good as a 7. They genuinely just can’t beat the 7 formula. Chris Harris said so on his YT 7 review some years ago. One thing you omitted was the tonneau option. Hood down tonneau & doors on is magic - tonneau is easy to stow, easy to leave the car ‘locked’ & secure & brilliant to drive in rain like this without getting wet, you just need a cap. I’ve driven in heavy hail on motorway hood down/tonneau on & I hardly got wet. What a car. Totally addictive, a pure joy machine. A true elixir. Never beaten. The benchmark for all sports cars bar none. Now, I better sell my Elise…..
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
Thanks! Your written review is pretty comprehensive too 🙌🏼
@octane_adventureroca9581
@octane_adventureroca9581 2 года назад
Perfect stable mate for your Yaris 😂
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
The dream!
@PapaDutch
@PapaDutch 6 месяцев назад
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ ~an excellent design that incorporates best performance for the buck I vote it the coolest thing to come along since the BAJA BUG I bet it feels like driving a Sprint Car on the road 🤔
@gus8378
@gus8378 3 месяца назад
05:20 Cool that you talk about squeezing through traffic and a smart fortwo appears. It’s the car I’ve owned that I miss the most.
@benmarr352
@benmarr352 2 года назад
Daily driving in the wet teaches great car control. I managed to spin at about 10 mph when I wasn't concentrating. That was a long time ago (Vauxhall red top It be and about 210 bhp). Many of my colleagues were however falling off the road at about 80 mph in Subarus and Mitsubishis - know which I prefer as a reminder to always be in 110% control.
@danp6897
@danp6897 11 месяцев назад
i've four season daily-driven a miata and a few motorcycles in frequently rainy and occasionally snowy/icy rural Oregon. You're 100% correct about low traction driving teaching great vehicle control.
@tomokokishi3066
@tomokokishi3066 Год назад
Didn't know you can put the roof on with the roll cage. Neat 😁
@KarmaMechanic988
@KarmaMechanic988 Год назад
My main obstacle to purchasing a caterham is my requirement for a special vanity plate. "KAR 120C". Honk if you understand!
@michaelfischer9401
@michaelfischer9401 10 месяцев назад
Be seeing you.
@philipethier9136
@philipethier9136 7 месяцев назад
At least my 1700 Super Sprint has the Prisoner wheels!
@johnpollitt4456
@johnpollitt4456 2 года назад
Any 7 is awesome, best without roof and doors (mrs like the doors tho!), but very best on dry days with an aero and helmet for max fun and protection. Great vid tho, makes me want to trade up by westie!
@67daltonknox
@67daltonknox Год назад
The visibility in traffic makes me think of recumbent bikes which usually sport a whip antenna with a small flag at the top.
@koitorob
@koitorob 11 месяцев назад
Don't be daft! Any Caterham isn't practical! THAT was the official Michele Newman announcement when she test drove a Caterham on the old Top Gear. She announced that is was impractical, plus noisy and may have moaned about the wind too. Mind you she also droned on about the Sierra Cosworth being dangerous because the throttle was non linear. It would possibly cause some drivers to crash because pushing the accelerator down half way wasn't giving you half the power. I wouldn't normally even think to make comments containing references to women, kitchens and staying there but i felt in her case it might be acceptable...
@VeloMobileCycling
@VeloMobileCycling Год назад
Thank you for you good Video and the infos. But please, if you want more followers, control your body tension(language). Then it is much easier to enjoy your voice and content.
@tombrewsaugh1399
@tombrewsaugh1399 Год назад
I have always wanted one from the first Lotus 7 I saw on TV. Unfortunately these have always brought a pretty high price here in the States so I make due with my old Spitfire. It would still be a fun car to have though.
@JBCTR
@JBCTR Год назад
If it helps, they command a high price here too!
@Thatguy-fc3tx
@Thatguy-fc3tx 26 дней назад
I had the first hand built Zero in 2009, trick paint, carbon fibre, etc and kids thought it was a playground toy
@qpasas
@qpasas 2 года назад
the car i dram of since i was a kid, was V12 ferraris and Nissans GTR's, i always be intrested in caterhams since i see a anime series called EX-Driver. But man in a month or two im felt in love with it and now its one of my favorite cars ever. I really hope i can buy one some time in my life. good video
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
Thanks! Caterhams are absolutely mega. Completely different experience to the supercars.
@ianleonard2983
@ianleonard2983 2 года назад
The best thing is setting off alarms in a multi storey car park !!!
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
And they say you should grow up as you get older.... NEVERRR!
@ValueNL
@ValueNL 2 года назад
One of the better reviews on RU-vid. Saw many of them to get a reference for my new car a Dutch made Donkervoort. I think the driving is kinda similar! Thanks!
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
Thank you! 🙌🏼
@1silvervespa
@1silvervespa 10 месяцев назад
Why not put the camera where your not taking your eyes off the road and traffic .....hummm .
@chuckmurphy5701
@chuckmurphy5701 21 день назад
So it's a motorcycle with four wheels. Awesome! ♥️
@pjs9346
@pjs9346 Год назад
A perfect car for an imperfect world.
@wpjohn91
@wpjohn91 2 года назад
Took mine to the alps for a sking trip one time. Great trip and just strapped the skis downs with bungie cords
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
That's mad. How did it cope in the snow?
@johnnyboy1586
@johnnyboy1586 5 месяцев назад
This is the closest thing with 4 wheels to riding a motorcycle 😊
@gzk6nk
@gzk6nk 11 месяцев назад
That part roof might be OK on the move, but leave it parked in pouring rain and you'll have to swim into it when you return! Practicality? You have to keep it in a garage 'cause I bet even with the full roof it would leak if it lived outside 24/7. My garage is for my motorbikes, so I run a new MX5. Not as much driver fun as a Caterham - but not that far short and 100% practical.
@ianscott3180
@ianscott3180 11 месяцев назад
I disagree. I did the family shop every sunny Saturday for years in my old 1700 crossflow. There are a couple of buts though. You must be on your own to free up the passenger seat and footwell. You can only go to one store or leave goods unattended while in a second. The benefite! I am just off to the supermarket dear...... hang on a minute and I'll come with you. Sorry dear I am going in the 7.
@kramnam4716
@kramnam4716 Год назад
Only compared to a bicycle. Ah! Sorry, forgot about the man maths. I had one Kent cross flow on webbers 160hp semi race 4 speed. Take ear plugs and towels! Those old cross flow and webbers are 10x more characterful than the dull Duratecs and not much slower. K series suits them well too. Without the doors the air gets sucked out the cockpit. Well noted re the brake lights! Good review.
@sproony2715
@sproony2715 2 года назад
Time for the 620 and an aero screen :)
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
I’d love to have a play in a 620!
@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 Год назад
A late Danish Editor, Mogens Damkier, many years ago named a (Lotus) Seven to be an MC on four wheels! And said that with the roof up, you don't need to take the raincoat off from that! But as seen, it is a little difficult to enter the car, if not being a Circus Artist, able to put the feet behind his or hers neck! Sadly I have never managed to actually drive in one, and as 75 and +6" I doubt it will ever happen? 😢
@BluCat86
@BluCat86 2 месяца назад
I enjoyed this. You were driving just up the road from me. I’m hankering after a 7 - need to get my 996 sold!
@ianscott3180
@ianscott3180 11 месяцев назад
I have had two 7's. A 1700 crossflow and a Cosworth BDR. Both were far from new and not top dollar but I dropped little on either car. I never had one as my only car but reckoned that I could have an older 7 and a newish hatchback for less that the cost of any perfomance car. Everyone should have one at least once, the most fun that you can have with your clothes on.
@GUTI-ps6oy
@GUTI-ps6oy 5 месяцев назад
If you drive the SV than YES !
@richarduk679
@richarduk679 2 года назад
Always wanted one since watching the opening scene of ‘The Prisoner’. But in Blue!? What were you thinking of? Sorry but It’s got to be in racing green.
@rx-heaven8934
@rx-heaven8934 Год назад
Make sure you have your side screens for longer periods of highway-speed driving, as the wind will eventually damage your eardrums.
@williamstares7542
@williamstares7542 Год назад
Had a westfield for a summer. When I sold it I felt like the wife had left me. Properly heart broken. Going to buy a Caterham. Epic cars.
@WelshRabbit
@WelshRabbit 8 месяцев назад
How about getting one with 4-wheel drive and a 2" receiver trailer hitch? [just teasing]
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 8 месяцев назад
That’s nearly a GR Yaris? 😏
@trapper1211
@trapper1211 11 месяцев назад
Wow, this thing is so bad
@1silvervespa
@1silvervespa Год назад
If you can Daily a Motorcycle you can Daily these .... Stop whining.
@simonbussey7530
@simonbussey7530 2 года назад
You need to take it up a notch now and drive the quick supercharged one!
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
Yes please! Although I can't say I ever wanted more power... (but if it's on offer... ;))
@skiddlyd.244
@skiddlyd.244 Год назад
Do you know if that 2.0 duratec engine is direct injection or multiport injection?
@mcgoo721
@mcgoo721 3 месяца назад
This begs for a k series or beams
@old_toucs6283
@old_toucs6283 Год назад
7:05 Just drive through it. Or get an aftermarket hood, all of which are better.
@robertpotton9179
@robertpotton9179 Год назад
Would be nice if you knew what you were talking about.
@CutcliffePaul
@CutcliffePaul Год назад
2:02: Too right on the ground clearance! I once had 'a poor man's Caterham' (not a Westfield, although I won't mention the make for fear of upsetting fans!) and it had a 2.0 Pinto engine and I went up a slight hill and where it levelled off, there was some camber in the road and I cracked my sump on it! Gutted! 🤦🏻‍♂ But as for living with it, I did just that for about two years. I once visited a client about 150 miles away and on the way there, the sun was shining and I had the roof and doors off all the way. On the way back, it was dark and pissing down with rain and the headlights were like candles and the wipers weren’t the best, so visibility was challenging at anything over 40mph. I loved it on the way there but on the way back... not so much. Weather-wise, just a typical English day‼ 🤷🏻‍♂☀🌤⛅🌥🌦🌦☁
@JBCTR
@JBCTR Год назад
Sounds like a good day out!
@trehoward3075
@trehoward3075 Год назад
You need a half hood from Soft Bits For Sevens / Soft Bits Shop
@jemill100
@jemill100 2 года назад
brilliant video mate. was really well done.
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it! What a fantastic machine this is.
@pirateracer69
@pirateracer69 2 месяца назад
England... no rain ?
@MykeWinters
@MykeWinters 11 месяцев назад
I’d have mine in painted matt black, black matt wheel arches and chromed roll cage, with black alloys with chromed rims. Beautiful car and would be a dream car for me. Maybe, one day I’ll have one…
@strickostricko
@strickostricko 4 месяца назад
It’s not something you instantly think about but your average 4x4 driver doesnt see these coming on the road especially in black or green. Mat black would be invisible especially at the speeds you drive! 😉
@shabbos-goy9407
@shabbos-goy9407 2 года назад
18 month waiting list means you aint getting a new one for a while...
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
Unfortunately same for most cars at the moment :(
@blackrose1570
@blackrose1570 2 года назад
18 Months..? i have to wait only 6 month for mine
@sk8guitardrums
@sk8guitardrums 2 года назад
Great review, not many people show with the full rain roof on, i like it and would be nice to own a kit car like this. the roll cage is a must for safety. also beautiful in this Blue colour. wonder if you can review the GBS Zero kit car?
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
That's a big ask... I can try! Glad you enjoyed the review!
@Robbscarey
@Robbscarey Год назад
you look like George Russells older brother
@shankarbalan3813
@shankarbalan3813 Год назад
Well done! Nice review. Quite a potential rival to Twin Cam!
@1silvervespa
@1silvervespa Год назад
Travelled just for the T shirt ....
@1silvervespa
@1silvervespa Год назад
After work who would go home ....
@domsbits3922
@domsbits3922 2 года назад
Really needs lesson on how I get my ass in the car. You made it look easy
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
Did I? 😂 I don’t think there is an elegant way…
@RonK
@RonK Год назад
a beauty, thanks for the video. Would have loved to see how to exit the car with the roof on top...
@JBCTR
@JBCTR Год назад
Hands and knees… 😂
@kendutchess
@kendutchess 2 года назад
Maybe use a camelback system for your cuppa in the morning?
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
A coffee camelbak sounds genuinely amazing tbf.
@Joshkemponcars
@Joshkemponcars 2 года назад
Very good and informative video JB, well done. Keep them, coming!
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
Thanks, will do!
@kloppsliverpudlians88
@kloppsliverpudlians88 11 месяцев назад
What chassis is this? S3 or SV?
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 8 месяцев назад
S3
@benpearson1825
@benpearson1825 Год назад
Big up Benson Maccies
@SuperNotas12
@SuperNotas12 Год назад
doesn't it idle at any time? or just when the engine is cold in the morning?
@JBCTR
@JBCTR Год назад
Just when it’s cold. It’s all gravy when it’s warm!
@steffydog
@steffydog 10 месяцев назад
Awesome, cheers 👍
@ericgriffin6698
@ericgriffin6698 Год назад
Absolutely Wonderful... I want one !
@JBCTR
@JBCTR Год назад
You and me both!
@tonycarpenter8445
@tonycarpenter8445 Год назад
Arms going like fuck!
@JBCTR
@JBCTR Год назад
Go faster arms
@DrivingwithNico
@DrivingwithNico 2 года назад
So many hair styles in one video :D
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
Haha! King of continuity fails 😃
@JRotten
@JRotten Год назад
Can I jam an LS motor in it?
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 8 месяцев назад
No 😂
@andrewbrazier5984
@andrewbrazier5984 2 года назад
Lovely car and a well put together video 👍
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
Thanks Andrew!
@alexwoods4825
@alexwoods4825 2 года назад
Outstanding video! I want one
@JBCTR
@JBCTR Год назад
Haha me too! I was sad when I had to give it back.
@carloc8763
@carloc8763 2 года назад
Great video, just susbscribed
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
Thanks Carlo! Glad you enjoyed it!
@steverabbits
@steverabbits 2 года назад
Caterham basically lie about the power to weight ratio of their cars, this car should really be a 375R. They weigh about 560kgs, not 500. Over inflated figures, a bit like their prices! 😂😂 Great cars though I agree but I just don't get the stats manipulation, what's the point? Really enjoyed the video in any case, the thrill of blatting any 7 never gets old 👍
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
Yup very true. Their names seem to go on the assumption that all cars weigh 500kg so they just double the power output. That aside, what a machine. Timeless, too.
@steverabbits
@steverabbits 2 года назад
@@JBCTR yep, I'm seriously considering selling my kits and buying one although the prices are as scary as the cars! But they do hold their value extremely well
@resnonverba137
@resnonverba137 2 года назад
Do stop saying 'like'. Thanks.
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
Like
@resnonverba137
@resnonverba137 2 года назад
@@JBCTR Dim and childish are not good traits.
@JBCTR
@JBCTR 2 года назад
@@resnonverba137 I’m glad you enjoyed the video 😂
@resnonverba137
@resnonverba137 2 года назад
@@JBCTR It may surprise you but, aforementioned irritations aside, I did. I even gave it a 'thumbs up'.
@0PsychosisMedia0
@0PsychosisMedia0 Год назад
It's a shame they have Ford engines in them. Reliability gets flushed down the toilet.
@bradpaca
@bradpaca Год назад
As I have said on other channels,this Car is way over Priced. And you showing that Oil Pan problem makes me double down on this Car is way over price .... Poor design... Buy a factory five Cobra. .. with Prices of Cars to day they are out of reach for most..... Dumb investment...
@1silvervespa
@1silvervespa Год назад
Who doesn't charge a Phone over night ... Silly.
@1silvervespa
@1silvervespa Год назад
Tourist to Canada or Relatives on the otherside of The Pond ??
@1silvervespa
@1silvervespa Год назад
Front turn Signals Ugly as a Wart ......
@1silvervespa
@1silvervespa Год назад
210hp a joke in 2023 ....
@eddymagomago4502
@eddymagomago4502 Год назад
Quisiera uno o al menos una réplica, me encantan🥰
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