The Klon Centaur is a pretty hyped pedal, The Boss DS1 is not.. Why not combine the two? Social Media / kdhguitartv / kdhguitartv / kdhguitartv Subscribe to support the channel :)
No overdrive pedal is worth $4-$6k or whatever, but I recently got an IRAD Archer Ikon and it sounds fucking MAGICAL. I just think it's a great circuit and the hype really is deserved. That said, it IS just a circuit, which is why you can get a klone put together in China for $40. But I defy you to get yourself a well-rated klone, turn the gain to 3-o'clock, and tell me that it doesn't sound fantastic. Bottom line is that Klon circuit has earned it's place as an entire new "class" of OD in the pantheon (e.g. BluesBreaker, Tube Screamer, etc.).
@@cloudshad0ws Well boss, you're wrong. Anything is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Although the Klon is revered for it's tone, its the exclusivity and rarity that makes it sell for mad money, like Dumbles and Fischers.
The larger enclosure allows the mojo to swell more in the box before its released through that cable. Larger case = more mojo= improved tone, especially in the mids.
From Steve Vai to THOU the DS-1 has been part of the foundation of heavy guitar tones for a longer than most haters have been in their human suits. "If you hate the DS-1, then you're using it wrong." - Me, the guy that wrote this post
Dude, your videos are actually fantastic. I can see passion in everyone of them. Be it the passion for spreading information, making people aware of shitty situations, passion for just shitposting, but I love everyone of them, and it's hard no to see that you like making them. They make my day. Cheers from Brazil!
Boutique peeps: "BOSS is corporate bullshit. I only buy vintage stuff, like this boutique overdrive made in 2017. I need something that gets the sound of 70', 80' and 90's artists". BOSS DS-1: Is literally 40+ years and used by artists of the 70's, 80's and 90's.
I’ve been saying this for years. People buying €300 pedals with silly names like “Drunken Weasel” or “Hairy Bishop” to recreate tones originally recorded with Boss and MXR pedals. And it never dawns on them that the mics, mic preamps, desk, compressors, mastering etc. etc. might have influenced the sound of the guitars on the album.
The DS-1 is such an underrated pedal, especially for lower gain. Back the distortion off a bit, run it into a cleanish Fender style amp and discover how touch sensitive and expressive the DS-1 can be. Much more so than the Tube Screamer. I really love using it this way.
I built a Klon Centaur clone for $30 and it's the most amazing pedal I've ever heard. Rich harmonics and sustain. It drive the amp nicely and has quite the volume boost too.
@@fdfsdfsvsfgsg4888 yes. Amazon has them. My expectations were very low, given the price, but when I turned it on and played with the knobs, I couldn't believe the range of the tone. Then I put a wampler compressor and a ts9 at unity gain before the klone, tone knob to zero on the ts9 and omfg that sweet tone. Add a touch of reverb and a good bit of delay and it's like Andy Timmons like tone.
I remember in the mid 2000s playing in a metal band. Every show was a different amp and I couldn’t be arsed lugging around an amp. I used a wah>sd1>ds1>eq7. It was epic. Loved an sd1 in front of a ds1
If you set the SD-1 for an edge-of-breakup overdrive sound and then put the DS-1 BEFORE it sounds waay better and heavier, just like the sound of "All She Wrote" from Firehouse. It's like having the DS-1 in front of a crunchy amp, the SD-1 acts like the amp, and you can do other tricks: If you put the SD-1's level a little up you can have a volume boost instead of gain boost for solos after playing rhythm with just the DS and you can control the overall distorted tone with the SD's tone control which is after the DS and it's more effective than the DS's tone control! Enjoy!
The DS-1 was also favoured by Gary Moore in the early eighties, during his hard rock and metal era. He loved using it with his '63 strat, as he found it gave him a heavy tone without sacrificing the Strat's character.It's all over the Victims Of The Future album.
Another excellent video KDH. Your channel is my favourite subscription, and I pounce on your uploads the instant I see a new one. Everything you do, from your reviews, to your "Audio Audits" is done so professionally and is researched so well. You can see your honesty and integrity shine through, and your guitar playing is excellent. You do yourself much credit. You're only 22 yet you conduct yourself with the wisdom of someone much older. You deserve all the success that you're DEFINITELY going to get.
DS-1 was my first ever guitar pedal, and I got lots of use and great tones from it for well over a decade. Love that little pedal. I never understood the hate it got from some people.
had klons in the early 2000's 3 to be exact and sold them back in the day. they were ok back then and ok now. its not impossible to achieve that tone without one. anyone paying that $6000 price tag for a klon is absolutely crazy! its a $300 pedal at best and always will be.
especially with how good digital modeling is, i prefer physical units because i have the attention span of a gnat so haveing something to tinker with in person helps, but to save 3k? nahh im whipping out the laptop
I’ve got a soft spot for the DS-1, even though it doesn’t really suit my professional tonal needs these days. I still have the same one I bought in 1995, and still use it at home. I also have the Vox Satchurator, which was essentially a DS-1 with a boost circuit developed for Satch… Fantastic pedal!
That’s awesome. I just picked up a used DOD Grunge pedal for like $30. It’s not useful for everyday distortion but it works as an alternative to line6 insane mode lol
Got my DS-1 for $25 and it's awesome! It really depends on the guitar and amp you're using. Single coils into a Marshall sounds sweet! Single coils into a Fender - not quite as good but still nice.
I have two Klon pedals. Both were bought for $239 at a guitar store across the street from Berklee while I was a student. At the time, there were not a lot of pedals at that price, but it sounded great. The second was purchased from the same store a few years later. Every other pedal on my board (only about four) are all Boss - TU-3, SG-1, DM-2, PN-2, and all are well over thirty years old, aside from the tuner. I don't want to sell mine because I've had it for years and couldn't afford another if I wanted one. I wouldn't pay $5000 for one, but it does sound great.
I have a DS-1 I got in 1983-84(I got it for Christmas from an aunt a couple months after Christmas)and I've taken care of it and sounds great.2018 I decided to buy one new for $50 at GC and see how much better my older one sounded.They sound pretty much the same If anything the new one might sound a little better.
I'm from Indiana. When I lived in New York City, people would ask where I'm from. Occasionally they'd mis-hear me as answering "I'm from India," which led to them giving me some odd looks.
That box made it sound way better. I always felt the opposite about distortions. The cheaper, the better. Home-made is the best of all. Great video and cheers from the US east coast.
I remember starting to play guitar in the 1990s and walking into Steve’s music in Ottawa and asking for that orange pedal that kobain used. Good times.
The DS1 was one of my first pedals. I had high hopes, but I couldn't get the sound I wanted out of it. However, that was because I knew nothing about tone, or the dynamic between your own touch/delivery, and how the output side plays on it. So of course, I couldn't dial it in, and everything I played sounded bad. I think when it comes to things like the Line 6 spiders, those crate amps, a bunch of boss and digitech stuff... the reason people snob them off is because their main experiences with those products was when they didn't know how to get in harmony with them and find the tones they do well with. Every standard piece of gear has some utility in building tones. You leverage that by identifying its distinguishing attributes, and doing a combination of adjusting your playing, and adjusting the knobs. It's harder to learn than shredding techniques! You can play like Tim Henson and still not know how to sound good. Sometimes it takes years of patiently honing sensibilities, long after you're a legato master or whatever. Sometimes you have to wait till you're exposed to the right things. There's no school you can go to learn how to craft the tone in your head. You can learn how to use gear and daws. But it's like learning music theory. Helpful as a tool, but it's not going to hand you the key to producing things that really move human beings - it merely describes the known mechanics of things that already do. The generative part comes from you, a creative synthesis must take place, that requires your specific input. There's no 'philosopher's tone' out there. It also comes from you, and how you leverage what you have creatively. We are artists. Having good tone and finger expression is like cooking. There is a mechanical side to it, but the real magic comes out in the more personal, trail-and-error side of it. There's nothing you can just buy that will make you a chef. You'll only ruin the best ingredients without a developed taste. And yet, a good chef can make even the I-can't-believe-it's-not-cheese slop that is velveeta sing a new song. You'll see that attitude change nearly every time somebody revisits some 'old junk' they used to hate - it's almost never as bad as they remember because they have not only improved drastically on their instrument, but because they know how to coax the sounds they want out of gear. Over the years they changed, and suddenly that pedal is almost appealing to them, they want to explore the possibilities more. That's the part snobs miss: exploring possibilities. People get spoiled rotten collecting pedals, lots of junk expectations pile up that to me actually cloud-out the tone quest. You get used to just buying the things that do the things you want. But I mean... it's not like you can just go up on stage, show everyone your pedals, and call it a show. Personally, I think people focus wayyyy too much on choosing which amps/pedals to use and not enough on how to use the ones they already have lol. Can't help but notice that most pedals people like to rag on have more uses than those people ever acknowledge, that simply went unvalued or unexplored by them. That's its own skill, right? What's the saying about a craftsman and his tools? Give me a guitarist who dumps on 9 out of 10 pieces of gear that millions of people use with great success, and I'll show you someone who can't make compelling music, even when money is no object.
Haha, I have a 1979 DS-1 long dash which came from Ireland, haha the guy said Rory Gallagher had most likely played it..yeah right I have 2x an '87, and a Taiwan Robert Keeley originally done by himself Ultra/Seeing Eye Mod, the 2010 black special edition(MIJ) , I also want to get the Waza version to finish it off. I have had a '85 and another '87 but I sold those (one had a crap mod on it which was not declared) Also I got a 1992 DS-2(because Cobain had this year of DS-2.) I never got the DS-1 with the new printplate and electronics (the versions you can't modify) I got most at a low price but I will most likely keep them, funny thing is that they do all sound different even the '87 's. They do give a killer Moore tone when used right Love the video's mate, greetings from an Irishman in the Netherlands
While I’m not much of a pedal guy, I never thought the Klon Centaur sounded like anything note worthy. It sounds good, don’t get me wrong, but it’s gone the way of the vintage Les Paul.
Anything that showcases the DS-1 in a positive light is a win. I bought mine in the early 90s due to Kurt Cobain and Dave Navarro using them, and still use it all the time. Throw an EQ pedal after it and make it sound however you want (can be easily shaped to get killer heavy metal tones). I can probably do the JHS Bad Monkey trick and make it sound like a Klon...
Older ds1 circuit boards the power jacks are different and can be altered. Rehouse a mini Klon clone and add a 3 way switch for circuit selection or combination? The Mosky silver horse would fit with room to spare. Add a voltage split for 18 volt for each circuit getting the 9 each circuit runs off of. In a sense you could mix circuits and create something new... Then do a ds1 mod for a flavor change.
My singal chain right now: HM2->DS1->NS2->HM3->MT2->DS2 into rack rev/dly and graph eq straight into power amp. Got all the distortion flavours I want!
I don't know where the comment went that I just saw but someone in the comments pointed out that the incredible lead tone in "Easter" by Marillion is a DS-1 into a Jazz Chorus and I had to go stop and listen to it again. If you don't like the DS-1 go listen to that song and come back and tell me that isn't one of the best tones you've ever heard.
@@literal_lee from my experience, if you are using a valve amp you just need to have the amp just before the edge of breakup and then crank the ds1’s volume, or get the amp on the edge of breakup. If your using a solid state you need an overdrive in front of it (od-3 is probably best), or your fucked. Basically just dont use it with a clean amp.
Because it's not surface mount you can easily upgrade components of the same value or experiment with different component values. You can also go from ceramic to electrolytic to tantalum or to orange drop. It's fun to mod these pedals.
I modded mine to have a LED that clips, like the Keeley guy does. I love that pedal. If anyone's into actually building projects, there's lots of small companies that make the circuit boards. I have Aion Electronics' Klon clone pedal. Good shit.
For a moment before watching this I thought that Boss had actually done some weird collaboration with Klon - wouldn't have been that surprising after the Angry Driver, that Verumam/Ibanez tube screamer & the MT2 re-released seemingly off the back of it being a meme. I am VERY pleased to discover that it's just a project you did for lols.
