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The Boss That Ruined RuneScape Forever (OSRS) 

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Old School RuneScape's coolest and most exciting new boss was also it's most overpowered one. Today I discuss how Zulrah decimated Old School RuneScape's economy and has left a last impact on the game and Jagex.
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@sesMasist
@sesMasist 7 месяцев назад
Now that Scurrius has been released that clip is even funnier now.
@em18192
@em18192 2 месяца назад
the footage was even where scurrius was placed! wow
@Berd
@Berd Год назад
the boss that ruined runescape forever (immediately shows my mom)
@mrdubbs9877
@mrdubbs9877 Год назад
I've been saying this for years. Sad they killed off like 90+% of skilling money making methods by making monsters drop.all the resources you would ever need..
@ReinierRuneScape
@ReinierRuneScape Год назад
But there is a tax system and the ge destroys items
@nicholasming5976
@nicholasming5976 Год назад
Tax is okay, really only bad for flips. But the resource drops should’ve been stuff that already held value outside of their scarcity. Rune bars, ores, magic logs stuff like that. It’s when they updated slayer and added all the noted drops that killed mid level skilling. Gargoyles and kurask being the worst
@DJ5540
@DJ5540 Год назад
@@ReinierRuneScape The tax does not remove resource items from the game, only high value items that aren't likely to leave the game once they are brought in.
@glubstubs
@glubstubs Год назад
Rs3 has some interesting ways to combat that
@erickchristensen746
@erickchristensen746 Год назад
Yeah, as much as I enjoy bosses, I’m not enjoying that the game is just turned into a “boss only” game. Skilling outside of very specific things are slowly dying.
@malanuts1732
@malanuts1732 Год назад
The problem with OSRS and most games nowadays is that the players have become so obsessed with the META that nobody just plays for fun anymore. Hence the death of minigames etc. Its all about max xp/gp per hour and less about the experience.
@AtypicalAdventurer
@AtypicalAdventurer Год назад
Thank the lawd for ironman modes. Still a bunch of meta chasers in every corner of the game, but eliminating moneymaking from the experience allows a player a lot more freedom in what they can/should do, ironically
@MrPatrickbuit
@MrPatrickbuit Год назад
The main issue with osrs is that once you hit level 70, the grinds become so ridiculously slow. No grind is fun for that long.
@557deadpool
@557deadpool Год назад
That's always been true, even back in 2007
@l0lan00b3
@l0lan00b3 Год назад
@@AtypicalAdventurer ironman mode is literally why this video was made lol
@EresirThe1st
@EresirThe1st Год назад
The only reason people didn't do the meta back in 2007 is because guides were shit and everybody was a ten year old who played after school
@austinwilburn1772
@austinwilburn1772 Год назад
If it makes anyone feel better about Broken Hands. Every player has to visit his island at some point in there game. It’s one of the spots you teleport via the fairy ring to reach the Queens hidden base.
@Die10003
@Die10003 Год назад
Also a clue step or two on that island
@MrPian0Mann
@MrPian0Mann Год назад
I never even knew it existed lol
@igooog
@igooog Год назад
jokes on you, i never finish fairytale 2
@austinwilburn1772
@austinwilburn1772 Год назад
@@igooog wow, so you just left a person stuck in a coma when you could of done something about it? Wth man?
@Richjack3
@Richjack3 Год назад
@@austinwilburn1772 xp waste
@kadboodle
@kadboodle Год назад
I genuinely am sad that skilling is hardly profitable. It genuinely sucks. Just time and money sinks to max
@Heihachi_Joestar
@Heihachi_Joestar Год назад
Its the most boring part of osrs
@HOMM1ECLAN
@HOMM1ECLAN Год назад
woodcutting you make profit, mining you make profit, runecrafting you make profit, hunter you make profit, thieving you make profit, farming you make profit, fishing you make profit. but you're right, you can hardly make profit skilling. how dumb are you??
@NergusFlame
@NergusFlame Год назад
@@Heihachi_Joestar It's boring because you get shit gold for your efforts. I bet you everyone would find rcing fun if it made them 10m per hour.
@TheZoan007
@TheZoan007 Год назад
Farming is still very profitable
@tuke202
@tuke202 Год назад
That is why you make an ironman, skilling feels so rewarding just stacking thouhsands of supplies
@SpankinDaBagel
@SpankinDaBagel Год назад
I bet almost all of us immediately knew what boss was being discussed before clicking the video.
@squigin3380
@squigin3380 Год назад
I audibly said there's no way it's not money snake right? As I clicked on this video
@Youtubecansuckmycock
@Youtubecansuckmycock Год назад
I like doing this boss
@TheAlbin0zebra
@TheAlbin0zebra Год назад
Snake zulrah or bird nex
@flameRFTW1
@flameRFTW1 Год назад
I thought it would be vorkath
@feedmepure1
@feedmepure1 Год назад
As a rs3 ironman I always looked as pre nerf zurah and laughed at the osrs community going on about integrity and shit. You guys had 1 boss that was the game.
@matthijs2981
@matthijs2981 Год назад
The nightmare has a cool droptable, but my complaint there is that there are too many different powerful items there. Why not just have the staff and orbs, and give the BIS inquisitor gear to different bosses? I would like to see powerful items spread out a bit more. Just like how all the bis jewellery comes from 1 npc. The way gwd did it is truly the best way, because the split in styles and lore makes sense.
@bonusmeme4691
@bonusmeme4691 Год назад
Eh, I don't think Nightmare is the worst offender in this, since its drops all have narrow niches. Nex on the other hand... Yikes
@styxzero1675
@styxzero1675 Год назад
Never knew the boss was based on snake specs, makes sense now.
@zometthecomet
@zometthecomet 2 месяца назад
And just like skill specs it ruined the game 😂
@TheLifesach33z
@TheLifesach33z Год назад
Also, if you kill the crippled little rat, you can get a smaller rat named Hector as a pet. Its only dialogue would be *aggressive dinging noises*
@literatemax
@literatemax Год назад
And it would ask to see your bolls if you wear an Amulet of Bellspeak
@solarifle
@solarifle Год назад
While it might've been bad for the game at the time, Zulrah is in my opinion THE most important update of the history of OSRS. To me, Zulrah was the point where Jagex wanted OSRS to stop being in the shadow of RS2. Even if it's an easy boss by today's standards, without it being a stepping stone that proved to Jagex that we can handle challenge in our content, we wouldn't have raids, the inferno, nor any other content where Jagex tries to push the limits of their engine (see sepulcre)
@ColonelloRS
@ColonelloRS Год назад
Very true! I would much rather have Zulrah exist today, despite what it did to the economy and skilling, than have it not exist at all.
@kylejoly577
@kylejoly577 Год назад
They could still have made it with the same mechanics - and the future, harder stuff you mentioned, while making the table more rare-focused.
@solarifle
@solarifle Год назад
@@kylejoly577 True, but modern MMORPG design is pretty much built around pushing players into the end-game, and OSRS is no exception (How people were training melee skills back in actual 2007 seems crazy compared to NMZ strats). Bosses like Zulrah/Vorkath that are low barriers to entry, while being consistent profit without RNG are pretty much the best way to get people who are just starting to look into the end-game, which is why I say that it was bad for the game at the time. Up until CoX there really wasn't much worth doing anything else unless you enjoyed pet hunting, so by the time we got our first raid, we had at least 2 years worth of supply drops being dumpstered by almost every high level player.
@reece-diesel
@reece-diesel Год назад
@@ColonelloRS so it didn’t ruin RuneScape then? 😊
@Jokervision744
@Jokervision744 Год назад
@@reece-diesel Playing in the ruins isn't that hard. It's not just that fun. Like the video says at the end how skilling lived next to pvm, and now skilling is just the skeleton guy at the table of the poster of the game, but this time it's just the knight who imagines that his friend who is the skeleton is actually alive. Maybe using ruins to picture RuneScape is bit too dramatic, but it's in a state of mess. I feel like so many things that are not even RuneScape actually are shaping out the game. I still keep wondering how big part Venezuelans have in RuneScape.
@Brentastrophe
@Brentastrophe Год назад
I still haven't done zulrah. I like playing OSRS to do the old content and I'm really lazy about re-doing content. I'm glad yall get new challenges and hard content to do because my peak/end was probably the era of Heart Of Gielinor RS3 years
@randomized614
@randomized614 Год назад
You need it for diary
@conspiraciesexposed7760
@conspiraciesexposed7760 Год назад
I used to be the same
@conspiraciesexposed7760
@conspiraciesexposed7760 Год назад
But I won’t pick flax now a days or play iron
@starkestej8250
@starkestej8250 Год назад
Only the OG’s will remember picking flax 😂
@ryzae6202
@ryzae6202 Год назад
Dunno why they drop raw resources anyway like wtf? I liked the joke drops Like fully loaded tuna potato. Thats a good drop. Not 20x raw shark
@team3d180
@team3d180 10 месяцев назад
"They had the best gear and stats" average player has all 40's-50's. Please.
@randomized614
@randomized614 Год назад
They need new resource types. We keep getting better BIS items for PVM/PVP but have the same fish, trees, runes, etc.
@Gameprojordan
@Gameprojordan Год назад
Mining and smiting would benefit alot from this
@IL_Bgentyl
@IL_Bgentyl Год назад
They need a bottom up progression. Where late game absolutely sucks the life out of low level resources. The only issue is bots but new world has used this system with great results as it allows new people to get reasonable gold. You could add a more natural way to break down gear also. Like breaking down armor just gives armor shards to upgrade/charge gear. This would let the economy raise the price on saturated items since they would be cheaper and everyone would buy them up.
@thebenchmarkplays9379
@thebenchmarkplays9379 Год назад
This would make me enjoy skilling
@niq872
@niq872 Год назад
yea rune being so high level when its pretty much useless after lvl 60 in alot of skills, the best part about it is high alching it
@davemeade4371
@davemeade4371 Год назад
Maybe you shouldn't have voted for 07scape and pushed for dungeoneering era rs2. You all quit because glycors and inferno presented a challenge.. Soul split and turmoil were the best, hexhunter bow should have stayed in the minigame, or atleast retained its name. Twisted bow - yeah that's a cringey name. What the fuck is twisted about it besides reverse engineered into a worse fit?
@LoremasterYnTaris
@LoremasterYnTaris 3 месяца назад
Going through some of your older content after watching some of the newer stuff, and I did not expect to hear the name Gonthorian here! Real blast from the past, there.
@thefatpakyak2826
@thefatpakyak2826 Год назад
I'm surprised you haven't brought up how Jagex nerfed zulrah teles again to drop only 1 at a time which resulted in it skyrocketing to 50k and later then making it drop 4 at a time (which today stiff stands at around 25k each)
@addictedtoRS
@addictedtoRS Год назад
I was thinking that. I wish I had grinded this boss more back then and saved these up. They are 36K each right now and rising rapidly for some reason. 1,000 kills would be 50,000 teles which nowadays would be 1.8B GP 😲
@dm1972
@dm1972 Год назад
It was honestly crazy that the meta for ironman was to kill like 10k zulrah if you wanted to max. This is unfortunately one of the issues we were going to face when we reset the servers to 07. We went from having no endgame bosses outside of GWD (which have terrible overall drops) to the first boss with a good farmable drop table. Zulrah did a good job of killing off alot of the boring content that makes players end up quitting the game.
@bkoh9375
@bkoh9375 Год назад
They should make a new rat / snake boss named exmod Jed
@ramp622
@ramp622 Год назад
Man I love your content. Just such well put together videos. Keep it up! Nothing but good things ahead for you.
@ColonelloRS
@ColonelloRS Год назад
Thank you so much!!
@JoeD908
@JoeD908 Год назад
They haven't really stopped this practice. Look at raids 3 and the drop table items and values....
@watercrystals9744
@watercrystals9744 Год назад
Skeletal Wyverns were just as much of a problem when they were buffed and they still haven't been nerfed, because Jagex decided to just keep putting out more and more rewarding content.
@davemeade4371
@davemeade4371 Год назад
Wtf? You'd be hard pressed to find anyone killing those
@BioMasterZap
@BioMasterZap Год назад
Might be worth noting that the Spike was replaced by the Serp. The intent was one drop for each combat style. The fang working on the trident was also added in later blogs since the SotD was more PvP focused than PvM. Then there is the whole blowpipe speed thing which was technically polled at dart speed, but likely due to the CM who wrote the blog phrasing it poorly. For the drop table, I'd say players blame them a bit too much for the state of skilling. Even back in the day, bosses had drops like 100 Yew Logs but it wasn't an issue then. The bigger issue isn't that PvM drops skilling resources, but that PvM has gotten more endgame content with higher profit per hour while skilling has largely remained the same. There are far more non-combat skills than combat skills, yet there are a lot more combat updates and when we do see skilling updates, they tend to be new training methods, not new money makers. It is hard for skilling to keep up when they're getting minnows when PvM is getting raids. Some bosses like release zulrah did drop too much of certain resources to the point it hurt the markets, but a many skilling resources were already close to alch value so drop tables didn't devalue them; money makers just moved past what they could earn.
@grandcanyon2
@grandcanyon2 Год назад
bests comment on here. i can literally go duo bandos with a buddy who is also lvl 126 and we can make a few mill a trip. so far we have done 25 trips and ive made 180 mil gp from drops. Mind you each trip was on avg 2-3 hours. Thats about 7.2 mil a hour.
@stretchymc5126
@stretchymc5126 Год назад
to be fair to oldschool this is largely a runescape problem, RS3 has similar issues which they have been recently trying to address by reworking resource drops from bosses. Rs3 have done well with drops similar to oldschools blood essence and spirit flakes, not direct resource drops but allows the player to gather those resources at a much higher rate
@travisalexphoto
@travisalexphoto Год назад
LOL
@SearedBite
@SearedBite Год назад
pure ess wasn't a good money making method before this because of nmz. i remember when nmz first came out p ess was like 70gp and doing the endurance mode for 2m/hr (which was super good money at the time)
@team3d180
@team3d180 10 месяцев назад
11:14 jagex really has perma fucked the eco forever lmao, 1 boss in and skilling died lmao getting excited over seeds died. And its like that today still.
@bozobebop5859
@bozobebop5859 Год назад
I miss skilling for gp back in the day, such chill times
@Roge9
@Roge9 3 месяца назад
I despise the purist mentality for an MMO. They just want the game to no get any updates and die.
@nothnks4106
@nothnks4106 Год назад
had a buddy do a 1.5k kill count the first month of release. Made over 2b which was a TON of gold back in the day. I was against solo boss content since i was a clan leader and wanted group content. Everyone went solo.. was annoying.
@XXnlcodXX
@XXnlcodXX Год назад
Keep in mind constant bad servers/ddos attacks made them rework death mechanics
@ColonelloRS
@ColonelloRS Год назад
Very good point
@Zehiret
@Zehiret Год назад
lol the servers are down
@Fatsaver
@Fatsaver Год назад
Meanwhile the osrs team still dont understand.. just look at what they did to my cactus spine collection *cries intensively*
@TheDragonshunter
@TheDragonshunter Год назад
to be fair the island with the dude that named Zulrah is a clue step
@99sonder
@99sonder Год назад
And it's one of the 4 ring combination code in Fairy tale part 2
@groundcontrol6876
@groundcontrol6876 Год назад
I remember back in the day you'd just log in, chop yews west of Catherby bank and just hung out there for hours being afk and having conversations with strangers and you'd have so much fun. When OSRS came out, that's exactly how it was for a good while, and pking was really active. Then this happened (what you explained in the video) and OSRS became something else entirely. Don't get me wrong, I still played the hell out of it and even maxed, but it was because before, I was the kind of player that did it all... lying back and afk skilling, doing some slayer, killing green drags, going to the mining guild so I could mine tons of coal to make steel bars for cash, but what really took the cake for me and was my favorite vice was Edgeville pking. Then all these updates started coming out and I was like hmm, what if I tried out PvMing? (I always saw PvMers as noobs back in the day and thought pking was where it's at. Anyway, I really enjoyed PvMing. I used to not like slayer but after I got into the late 70's to mid 80's, I really fell in love with it and PvMing was my new thing. It was still fun though because at the beginning, skilling was still an option and profitable, even if it wasn't quite as good as high lvl slay and pvming. Slowly but surely OSRS turned into either pvming.... or pvming. PKing wasn't the same cuz it was hard to find a steady stream of fights like before by just showing up at Edgeville on your cb lvl range's location, most skilling areas were prety deserted (like the almighty flax fields and the yew trees around it), and well it kinda lost it's original appeal. Idk how to put it without having a super long, complex and nuanced conversation about it, but it's bittersweet. I really miss the old essence and magic of it. It's a feeling we'll never be able to capture again. Flash2:wave: Selling iron knives 55ea---SomePlayer123
@lysssky2
@lysssky2 Год назад
iron knives are no longer meta for training range
@groundcontrol6876
@groundcontrol6876 Год назад
@@lysssky2 You obviously didn't get the post. Read "Back in the day". Nobody sells items by going to west Varrock and spamming the same message over and over again now, they just chuck em in the G.E. I'm talking about the past. Jeez you're thick lol.
@has489
@has489 Год назад
I was very active playing RuneScape around 2006 till 2010. When they released osrs I started again. After the first hit of nostalgia the game became boring very fast. I am glad they polled and released new updates.
@masonbeasley5719
@masonbeasley5719 4 месяца назад
I’m sick of people conflating nostalgia with a game not needing updates. You and I were kids and thought/ engaged differently, had different expectations, etc. Things will never be like that again because you can’t time travel lmao. Instead of yearning for the past, how about learn how to live in the present. Nostalgia wears off quickly dude.
@Nate-xf6ns
@Nate-xf6ns Год назад
I returned to OSRS a couple months ago from quitting EOC in 2012 and man RIP skilling. It’s almost useless now and everyone is just doing bossing/raids. I remember the OG RuneScape was mostly pking/skilling.
@grandcanyon2
@grandcanyon2 Год назад
They do bossing/raids because that has always been the best money maker since runescape classics. The thing is back then in rs classics and rs2 , players had worse stats and lvls and gear, now the player base is older and train better have better gear and stats so they can go in groups and kill monsters on avg faster and better. The avg combat lvl and non combat stats of osrs players is much higher then back then. Alot of people still skill, but now they skill to max out their account or to gain total levels. Before players mostly leveled up skills to make money to afford to lvl up another skill and so on and so on. Skills are still fun their not useless at all, its just that bossing/raids provide more money. I can half afk train at abby demons for a few hours a week and make 8-13 mil off of whips.Pking dying on osrs has to do with the mechanics changing over time and a more responsive servers with alot less delay which leads, to a high skill gap in pkers. OSrs pvp skill of entry is to high for most players, the only thing that will still be somewhat active is clan/team pking in the wilderness. Not to factor in jagex made mistake by making pvp worlds, the literally broke the pvp community into to many groups in different areas and locations, so people went to edgeville saw no more people and quit. Before there would be 500-600 people in front edgeville on most wilderness worlds with all lvls from lvl 3-90 then you would go up a little higher to wilderness 12 and you would see lvl 90s-120s right under the black knight castle. Now its just folks on pvp worlds trying to spec rush folks 15 levels lower then themselves.
@Arkantos1900
@Arkantos1900 Год назад
Idk how people can see fun in skilling when pretty much you click on the same spot after a few seconds, compared to raids and bossing which is more intensive and entertaining
@FirestormDDash
@FirestormDDash Год назад
Rs3 is mostly skilling. But has a core pvm still. Has a skilling boss too. If you want to try out your mainscape again you can ease yourself back into the world by turning on Legacy Combat(pre-eoc) in the settings under combat. Blood magic slaps. But also just easier to adjust as a rs2 player. I still usually run legacy.
@grandcanyon2
@grandcanyon2 Год назад
@@FirestormDDash NEVER i rather play osrs, there is a reason osrs has 75 percent of the player base and rs3 has 25 percent. With all its faults osrs is better to me.
@AngusBeef0
@AngusBeef0 Год назад
Which MMO doesn't focus on PVE for endgame content?
@RevBomb600
@RevBomb600 8 месяцев назад
future commenter here. rat boss just got added
@lovsaphirars7119
@lovsaphirars7119 Год назад
Blowpipe Void pvp meta was terrifying
@ColonelloRS
@ColonelloRS Год назад
True! I can only imagine how scary the multi combat zones were for those few days.
@gratedradish6699
@gratedradish6699 Год назад
This is why I play my own version of the game on a solo p server, made all content actually rewarding, not just pvm.
@tetee6789
@tetee6789 Год назад
You play Runescape... alone??
@Josie.770
@Josie.770 Год назад
It's almost like you could have just made an ironman.
@Uncensored_Thrack
@Uncensored_Thrack Год назад
So, I'm not normally an individual to point out small things, but saying "A new High Level solo boss, and it placed Second", while having the poll results showing it 3rd. My goodness man! Jokes aside, still an informative video, and quality watch!
@null3472
@null3472 Год назад
You forgot the part where they nerfed serp helm venom on npc and the str bonus
@jessecw2
@jessecw2 Год назад
solo boss placed 3rd behind continent and slayer update
@CodCats
@CodCats Год назад
i only played from 2013- end of 2015 but i remember making crazy bank at zulrah when it came out, i grinded zulrah forever it felt, thousands of kills, back when the blowpipe sold for like 30m!
@ByeBaybe
@ByeBaybe 2 месяца назад
raw resource philosophy was a positive domino effect for improving skilling. forestry, gauntlet, motherload mine, hallowed sepulchre, ect. the game is much more interactive and fun.
@jbarela237
@jbarela237 7 месяцев назад
Lol just now watching this and seeing rat boss exists.
@zerne1000
@zerne1000 Год назад
Bring skilling back as a viable money making method
@erickchristensen746
@erickchristensen746 Год назад
I mean it still is, it’s just overshadowed by bosses. Hunter for chins is still great, slayer is still amazing, farming is literally growing coins passively, but yeah it’s all still underwhelming compared to bosses.
@SetariM
@SetariM Год назад
@@erickchristensen746 It mainly pisses me off that RS3 doesn't have drops like OSRS does from normal monsters/slayer monsters that actually sell well.
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit Год назад
you would need to add....new skills
@Syphonfllter
@Syphonfllter Год назад
Just do some zalcano, you'll be alright..
@erickchristensen746
@erickchristensen746 Год назад
@@SetariM Sounds rough, I don’t play rs3, I’ve hated it from day one and have it a few long attempts and just can’t anymore.
@KrakenJG
@KrakenJG Год назад
Skilling profitability definitely needs to be brought back. I’m playing an iron account right now and I appreciate the drops for myself. On my main there’s no reason to skill for anything but exp. Realistically there’s no way for a low level player to earn money until they are 60+ in most stats. Like everything else - when they bring in updates something else dies. Coal trucks is a good example. With Miscellenia I have never had a shortage of coal.
@Vetionarian
@Vetionarian Год назад
You forget that there is a clue step right next to brokenhandz. I see that dude often
@Zero8654
@Zero8654 Год назад
"A new high level solo boss" actually placed third, not second. It got 9.9% while "An update to the slayer skill" got 12.1% and obviously the zeah one won first by a wide margin.
@ironqueen_osrs
@ironqueen_osrs Год назад
The idea behind the skilling resources from PvM is that high effort should yield high rewards. Although I definitely agree that jagex went overboard and put in too may supplies too quickly. and they still do
@zukodude487987
@zukodude487987 Год назад
The crippled little rat boss had me ROFLMAO
@NightlifeSux
@NightlifeSux Год назад
fact check: picking flax and mining essence had been worthless as money makers since nmz came out in 2013. people set up bots that had the optimal quests completed and players entered their dreams, afked and got oodles of flax and essence, among other resources. nmz is really what ruined runescape and that's a fact, jack
@es4628
@es4628 Год назад
Relax bud
@yjre
@yjre Год назад
@@es4628 "relax bud" 🤓🤣🤣
@es4628
@es4628 Год назад
@@yjre Ronnie, do something with your time bud. Thank you!
@NightlifeSux
@NightlifeSux Год назад
@@es4628 relax bud
@es4628
@es4628 Год назад
@@NightlifeSux Please provide actual data to backup your original post. Thanks
@osrsbeatrs3249
@osrsbeatrs3249 Год назад
Would be cool if you consider a video on what the transition from RS Classic to RS2 was like in March 2004. As well as what RS2 was like in its first year of release. Might be tough to find sources on it, though.
@jbugz134
@jbugz134 Год назад
Good video . How about actually making an effort to remove all bots from the game . I never understood how jagex has allowed them to be In game for so long. Saw a thieving bot with 200mill thieving xp if that isn't a cause for concern then idk what is
@GMO_Mobito
@GMO_Mobito 8 месяцев назад
1 Year later, there you have your Rat Boss xD
@cancerino666
@cancerino666 7 месяцев назад
The fact I see people woodcutting and just dropping all the logs theu gather is really sad. Thank god for ironman, if I want logs, I gotta make them.
@halogamer117117
@halogamer117117 8 месяцев назад
We got a rat boss alright. Not a decrepit one though.
@stumblinzz
@stumblinzz Год назад
I actually love skilling regardless of what they do to these bosses. I am just now after a decade even starting to fight the bosses, and I have loved that when I try slayer now there is expanded drop tables that make me want to actually do the skill. If I kill the boss and I just get crap multiple times I literally logout and don't play for weeks or months and lose total interest in OSRS until I get a notion that maybe something fun might be introduced to the game again.
@fleeper20
@fleeper20 Год назад
For what its worth it looks like in that poll the new high level boss came in 3rd not 2nd
@TheL0rd0fSpace
@TheL0rd0fSpace Год назад
Part of the problem is that people think that "if only this skilling money maker was better, then I'd skill more!" when in reality, there's no way that extra 200k/hr is what's keeping people from cutting yew logs. More people want to boss than to skill, so to keep the economy's supply of skilling items from drying up, some of it needs to come from bosses. Was Zulrah too good on release? Absolutely. Is it too good now? Probably not.
@tumblingdown8612
@tumblingdown8612 Год назад
I think you have a skewed perspective. I hate bossing and many other people are in a similar boat, if I could afk and make 200k an hour i wouldnt mind.
@selkokieli843
@selkokieli843 Год назад
I think pvm is the most visible activity, but most of us don't do it as much as afk skilling. it's mainly a late game activity done by long term players.
@TheL0rd0fSpace
@TheL0rd0fSpace Год назад
@@tumblingdown8612 but you can do that! Check the skilling money making guides on the wiki: There are fishing, crafting, cooking, mining, fletching, herblore, smithing, thieving and magic skilling methods that crack 200k, and many which push 500k - 1m per hour. My point is that Zulrah, and other bosses which add skilling supplies into the economy, aren't "keeping you from skilling". You can still make great profit skilling if you want to. They're just a scapegoat for skillers to complain that their incredibly low effort methods aren't profitable enough. In addition, Zulrah actually *benefits* skillers, because she pushes down the price of base ingredients. Sure, Zulrah makes coal cheaper, which makes mining it worse, but that also makes smithing bars better! Zulrah makes magic logs cheaper, but that makes fletching magic longbows more profitable! This applies to almost everything on her drop table: Cheaper flax makes spinning bowstring better. Cheaper pure essence makes runecrafting better. Cheaper mahogany logs makes plank making better.
@tumblingdown8612
@tumblingdown8612 Год назад
@@TheL0rd0fSpace nah bro I want traditional methods to be profitable especially for mid level players
@TheL0rd0fSpace
@TheL0rd0fSpace Год назад
@@tumblingdown8612 What part of "smithing bars is more profitable due to the lower price of coal" did you miss? Are you really gonna look me in the face and say "Smithing bars isn't a traditional skilling money maker?"
@sdewey4152
@sdewey4152 Год назад
Meanwhile at Jagex. "Update to drop tables coming in 2069, sorry for Zulrah, nearly 50 years late"
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit Год назад
i wn't play this game anymore anyways because of all the rainbow bullshit
@oglostingaming
@oglostingaming Год назад
Zulrah came out the day i got kicked out of my parents house. That's a pretty neat coincidence lol
@MikeSmith-lw4li
@MikeSmith-lw4li Год назад
fix skilling. You should make good gp for how long it takes. Doing some 80+ methods that yield under 200k an hour, or lose you money, is absolutely crazy.
@zoltan9760
@zoltan9760 Год назад
Just got zulrah pet 302kc yesterday! My 4th pet I'm hyped
@ColonelloRS
@ColonelloRS Год назад
Congrats!!
@tedofuentes6525
@tedofuentes6525 Год назад
People in this comment section dont have a single shred of economic prowess yet theyre talking like jagex doesnt think this stuff through before they put stuff into the game... the resorce drops from zulrah were ALL heavily botted items. Who would your rather be making money off these items? People who put in the work to kill zulrah or the people botting flax on throwaway accounts? You need about 500k coal to get 99 smithing. no one in their right mind would ever mine that much coal even if it was worth something.. you would say "just buy it off the g/e but if zulrah didnt drop coal who tf you think youd be buying 500k coal from? Some dude whos been muling coal off 10 bot accounts for the past month. You know how much flax you need to get 99 fletching? Theres not enough low levels picking flax to supply the rest of us with all those bowstrings.. have you ever tried mine rune rocks before? Youd die of old age before you got enough runite to train with.
@grandcanyon2
@grandcanyon2 Год назад
best comment on here alot of these folks talking on here, don't even have the high lvl stats to even do the content. I would bet 92 percent of the osrs community doesnt even have 85 minning, as its the skill with the least amount of players with 99. Ive minned rune ores for a few hours it would take ages, to lvl it up from minning rune ores let alone minning it to lvl up smithing. Ive seen some iron men streamers who done things like this but guess what they play osrs for 12-14 hours a day and even then it took them 1-2 months. I got 99 slayer you know what i did with the herbs and seeds and gems etc i sold them, iam not making no gem amulets to train crafting, or making strengh and attack potions to lvl up, iam not planting no seeds. You know whats more effective using the gp and planting trees, or buying ingredients for super energy potions, buying mith bars and making plate bodies then reselling them at the ge, till i can make addy plates bodies and then sell those and buy more addy plates. I can also buy green dragon hides then make dragon body hides and resell those and buy more hides to train. it was 2 mil gp from lvl 1 crafting to 63, then from 63-85 it was 8 mil, from 85-99 it was 23 mil gp. smithing it was 4mil from 1- 68 for mith plate bodies from 68-89 it was 18mil gp, from 89-99 it was 5mil gp.
@BasedAlarak
@BasedAlarak 2 месяца назад
I still strongly regret selling my thousands of Zulrah teleports when they were like 100gp each
@justste711
@justste711 7 месяцев назад
Its cool to think that they was thinking about a rat boss way back then.....and now we have scurrious, which imo is a perfect entry boss
@JoebsonOSRS
@JoebsonOSRS Год назад
Not to mention zulrahs top 100 kc is 95% bots
@brandonmcgillis
@brandonmcgillis Год назад
Colonello with another bed time story.
@kilbornagon
@kilbornagon Год назад
I have a maxed account and I feel like all I do is nex and raids 3 because their gp per hour is wayyyy higher than almost anything else in the game. I wish the skilling methods would become fresh again so I’d feel like I wasn’t mindlessly grinding skills just for pets
@SkyGrizzzley
@SkyGrizzzley Месяц назад
When I heard solo snake boss, I immediately thought of solo mission lmfao
@BunniBuu
@BunniBuu Год назад
Zulrah was the worst thing that OSRS introduced to the game. Not for the boss, Zulrah is a great and fantastic fight that I am honored to have 1kc for and will never touch again. But the fact that the loot table killed skilling (I paid for my first bond post-members with fishing sharks and I'd never be able to do that again v_v) and the blowpipe was ubiquitously and singlehandedly the best weapon in the entire game for literally every single piece of content (in the very very niche situations it wasn't the very best, it was at least top 3 or extremely viable), the combination of the two has damaged the game irreparably to this day. There used to be a harmony between skilling and PvM. PvMers get the best gp hour over time, but their drops were rare. They relied on skillers/skilling to get supplies for them: Food, potions, ammunition, runes, etc. Skillers had very consistent gp per hour, but their best methods were either slow or click intensive. They relied on PvMers to create demand and for the best gear such as the dragon pickaxe. Nowadays if a skill isn't combat-related or buyable, it's not even worth training unless it's a quest requirement :(
@tbone2102
@tbone2102 Год назад
Botting killed skilling long before Zulrah existed.
@sirisaac6125
@sirisaac6125 10 месяцев назад
Well we're getting a rat boss now too!
@etherealpenguin8683
@etherealpenguin8683 Год назад
I think you need to look at this from another perspective, it's not a boss that ruined OSRS forever, it's a gamemode that ultimately changed the design philosophy, I'm talking about ironman mode, conveniently released a few months before Zulrah, ever since then (even though the devs at the time said they wouldn't cater specifically for ironmen) everything has dropped supplies and resources en masse and I don't think that's a coincidence, a new solo boss coming out after the solo gamemode that dropped a bunch of resources that'd normally take a while to grind out solo, I don't think they had the economic impact in mind. Also you say they've returned to form with Nex/Nightmare but what are they? Oh yeah (not talking about Phosani's that got added later) GROUP bosses, not solo. How about we look at the latest solo boss, the phantom Muspah, oh god no, don't look at the drop table, don't look at the nerfs, quick, avert your eyes oh god they haven't learned anything at all.
@Sundance967
@Sundance967 10 месяцев назад
2:45 colo’s laugh is damn precious and I will die on this hill
@hourparh587
@hourparh587 Год назад
a rat boss would be great to commemorate all the pkers
@TylerMcVeigh1
@TylerMcVeigh1 Год назад
Unless Jagex had gone back and reworked the entire drop table of Zulrah, it didn't matter what the other bosses follwing ir regularly dropped. Players will flock to the most consistent money makers. Why kill a boss like Phosani's Nightmare that you might lose GP on until you get a good unique when you could just get an average of 130k per kill at Vorkath with just the regular drops?
@dominikpecuch2177
@dominikpecuch2177 6 месяцев назад
Hey look, we got a rat boss now :D
@randomshotz13
@randomshotz13 Год назад
Osrs is nostalgic in f2p but a whole new game in members. It is a shame that skilling is basically a means to quest / do efficient pvm but by leaning heavier on the combat system, which is the most technically advanced part of the game, Jagex have been able to create exciting content that rivals modern games. I came back for the nostalgia, I've stayed for the new game! Also skilling bosses were a smart way of bringing some of the complexity in combat to skilling, however they are still often gather X, place it in B or gather X, transform to Y, place it in B for extra damage So I appreciate some of the new minigames the most as they can be slightly unique in mechanics such as giants foundry
@RSAgility
@RSAgility Год назад
A big point in skilling for resources, instead of PvM, is that people that need to PvM continue to drive the economies of the skillers who are bringing them resources, like food and potions, but if you can just PvM everything, you literally kill half the game's purpose? I started in 2005 and RS has always seemed to favor combat over skilling.. Sometimes and update would make skilling be the best money maker, then PvM, and back and forth. Things change, but stay the same...
@boballen2990
@boballen2990 Год назад
"It'd be an actually challenging boss with actually useful rewards" It's old school, the simplified combat doesn't allow for a 'challenging boss'
@onogrirwin
@onogrirwin 3 месяца назад
1:04 spoken like someone who wasn't there in 2007
@OfficialRamZ
@OfficialRamZ Год назад
NGL, it's reasons like Zulrah and Wintertodt that I don't actively play OSRS anymore.
@Currlly.
@Currlly. 3 месяца назад
Tribute to the Unregistered Hypercam 2. Nostalgia hits hard
@swiftcrow
@swiftcrow Год назад
Remember when we picked flax as kids for hours in order to buy full Bandos? Yeah, me neither, because it's never been a thing. People picked flax, in order to buy dragon longsword for castle wars. Low level low effort skilling as a money maker has always been low profit. Besides, the last few skilling only resources or products are more profitable today than anything people did back in the day. Also if you really want to fish sharks or chop magic logs, just do it.
@grandcanyon2
@grandcanyon2 Год назад
i agree thats what most people did back then pick flax for low lvl gear like to get drgaon b axe or dagger, or long-sword these skilling methods were always used for low lvl gear. And ai agree if you want to fish sharks or chop logs you can do that. I went from 85-90 fishing doing drift net fishing and chopped teak logs for 85- 90 woodcutt. i didnt collected the logs but off of drift net fishing i collected like 1.8k turtles and 1.7k sharks and 800 manta ray. People keep thinking with nostalgia glasses, folks didnt do those low teir skilling methods because it was fun, they did it because they were broke in rs and needed fast low effort way to get cash for their dragon long-sword/b axe or rune full gear. Some folks did barrows instead of skilling.
@randomrandom9570
@randomrandom9570 Месяц назад
@@grandcanyon2 I'm a fan of rushing 70+ agility and agility pyramid myself.
@BlackAxon
@BlackAxon Год назад
That poll at 1:30 , Unless I'm mega mistaken "An update to the slayer skill" has the second most votes, not the new boss option. Am I missing something?
@BTCarpentry
@BTCarpentry Год назад
An idea for skilling to make them more appealing for gathering resources: As you level higher, you have a chance for multiples of certain resources per gather. For example: When fishing for lobster at level 50, you have a % of a chance to catch 2 lobsters instead of 1. At 60% a higher percentage and so on.. But you'd only get a scaled % of xp for that catch to avoid having a huge xp rate for low level fish. It can be implemented with all dead gathering skills.. like mining and wood cutting too. I'd be nice to be able to make more cash or resources on those skills for gaining higher levels.
@asemov2707
@asemov2707 Год назад
Zulrah I believe wasn't actually released broken due to poor planning, I genuinely believe it was done to increase the supply of items during OSRS's first drop in players.
@Smokerlife261
@Smokerlife261 Год назад
Dope vid keep it up mate, just stopped slayer to do some money snake this morning 251 kc
@ColonelloRS
@ColonelloRS Год назад
Thank you! Hope you get a unique drop soon :)
@latergator9622
@latergator9622 Год назад
The game is unbalanced. It’s no longer the perfect harmony of skilling, pvm, and pvp.
@Flare935
@Flare935 Год назад
Damn, Torstol Seeds really just can't catch a break
@GuilhermeHCardozo
@GuilhermeHCardozo 8 месяцев назад
Here we have the first mention of the radioactive rat
@MuwuRS
@MuwuRS Год назад
The Damnballa thing you did got a chuckle out of me lmao
@TellusLS
@TellusLS Год назад
Skilling should be meh money because the barrier to entry is much much lower than PVM. Skilling methods like sepulcher should honest to god be pushed more imo if skilling ever wants to be competitive in money making.
@Rerbun
@Rerbun Год назад
That doesn't make sense. If the barrier to entry is low then it should be less profitable already. Instead it has been made artificially less profitable through other means. Many low level methods are now MORE profitable than high level methods because the boss drops mostly cover high level items
@condor2279
@condor2279 Год назад
ye there is no reason why afk magic logs should be good money you want that, you'd have to deal with bots and people running 12 alts first
@Rerbun
@Rerbun Год назад
@@condor2279 like all the bots at zulrah now
@randallradke1279
@randallradke1279 Год назад
You want to know how to fix it? Make Zulrah move to 5 different spots at random and pick a random color too. Makes it harder, less afk, and will overall reduce kills per hour, removing a lot of potential resources in the process.
@bloodarcher7841
@bloodarcher7841 Год назад
That will make people not wanna fight it. Patterns are necessary. But it’s a good idea
@amanormaybeadragon
@amanormaybeadragon Год назад
@@bloodarcher7841 why are they necessary though? Patterns just make it easy for bots. I found it very frustrating and boring trying to learn the patterns to get my diary kill. In the end I just played the fight by eye, as if it were random and i found it much more fun. I got the kill whilst enjoying myself instead of stressing trying to learn multiple patterns like some school test.
@randomrandom9570
@randomrandom9570 Месяц назад
@@bloodarcher7841 Patterns are a memory test. I'm personally not a fan of memory tests.
@Semirotta
@Semirotta Год назад
There is no boss that ruined the game forever. OSRS was already ruined when it made its first day release. Ever since the first day the botting and money laundering started. This game has been completely ruined since day 1. There has been only one good runescape version out there and it was the classic one.
@TTVPrinceMos
@TTVPrinceMos Год назад
Not as related but I kinda miss the bots. They were fun to PK and even if it’s a bot it’s nice seeing a ton of players logged in around different worlds
@tbone2102
@tbone2102 Год назад
NOOO why can't I AFK for the same gp/hr as people that learned how to PvM, paid for expensive gear, and are actively engaging with the game instead of watching porn in another tab?!
@darkdream575
@darkdream575 Год назад
can you do a video on the decline of skilling?
@maltardraco9555
@maltardraco9555 Год назад
Which is better? Money snake or money dragon?
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