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The reason the octopus could not breath in the closet is Octopuii have pouches inside their body they can fill with water to breathe for short times outside of the water but she did not have time to fill this pouch because of the tank breaking. 😞
thematically my ass this season had the worst raitings ever with poor writing forced sex scenes that doesnt make sense best rated episode is ep4 which its basically lets make homelander kill people and have scene looking angry dripping blood how creative and lets have butcher making stupid faces and saying oi the best thing about the whole season was the solider boy scene he probably will carry the seasson 5
32:14 No, it was not fake. The parasite inside Butcher has the ability to make him sick or heal him. As William gave himself to the unscrupulous side that the parasite wants, now the parasite is curing him
@@ulisesmontoya9366 yeah once he was healthy I was like nah this thing inside him is more than a parasite it’s like a living thing that can do whatever he wants with you.
@@joshualares8678 … that’s exactly what a parasite is - a living thing inside of you that can do what it wants. Lmao. 😂 Maybe you meant that it’s more than just a *tumor.*
@@dizzy_star I have never heard of a parasite that if it wants to Can cure you or heal you, parasites only destroy you and consume you for their benefit but this thing isn’t a parasite it’s more of a being living in butcher, and by living being I mean it’s like a person with it’s own conscious, where tf does a parasite heal you or makes you sick at it’s convenience, people are really not seeing how much of a problem this thing is.
@@dizzy_star it ain’t a tunor a tumor won’t heal you when it feels like it or makes you sick when it feels like it, this thing whatever it is ain’t cancer ain’t a tumor it’s literally a living being with intelligence, it’s basically telling Butcher comply with me or else I’ll just kill you.
The reason Butcher seems to be just fine when he walks in the room and kills Neuman is this: When Butcher doesn't do what Kessler (his dark side) wants him to do, he makes his condition way worse. That's why Butcher fainted in ep. 7 when he told Kessler to f*ck off and walked away from the bar. Since then Butcher was trying his best to not listen to anything Kessler told him and he kept his faith in Ryan. But when Butcher saw Grace die by Ryan's hands just in front of him, it destroyed all his hope and he gave in to Kessler's evil plan to kill all supes. Butcher is now in something like a symbiosis with Kessler and as long as it stays that way, I believe Butcher is not gonna die as soon as he might.
Last episode we learned A-Train and his family had disappeared. There is the animated series: the Boys Diabolical. Episode 7 "John and Sun-Hee, explores this same kind of thing and how her cancer becomes its own entity. And Nikki, the supe's name is Love Sausage, lol.
@@azazello1784 Because his priority is getting the virus, plus Vicky was dangerous. Kimiko and Starlight were his ''mates'' and didn't pose any direct threat to him. Once again, he just wanted to get the virus and make it super lethal.
Annie can fly, The Boys captured by the Gen V and Vought Supes, Neuman and Grace dead, Soldier Boy frozen, Homelander is the real president, Sage is the real mastermind villain, Ashley taking V, Butcher in his Vecna-Venom Era… i mean THIS IS EVERYTHING
M.M. Trying to act natural by being a million times nicer and smiley than he’s ever been is one of the funniest, most out of left field things that’s happened this season.
@@alienanxiety yet a lot of people loved it. If it blew why did a lot of people love it? Do you have a professional license proving the season sucked? No you don’t. “Oh I didn’t like it” is fine. But saying it blew is incorrect. Yeah it wasn’t as good as other seasons but saying it sucked is wrong.
I feel everyone who gets powers as adults through Compound V or Temp V has it based on some trauma: Butcher got Homelander's powers for what he did to Becca. Hughie gained teleportation because of Robin getting "flashed" out of existence. Hugh Sr. faded constantly in and out because his wife faded out of his life. So, yeah, Ashley losing her hair because of the constant stress she's enduring at Vought? Very likely she's getting hair-related powers.
With her brain pulsing plus The Boys being weird, I'd love if they somehow made it so it was Medusa but instead of snakes it's her brain. Like if you took the squiggly parts of our brains and stretched it really long into "hair".
The conversation Butcher had with Hughie was the "death" of his humanity being foreshadowed and the birth of his evil and merciless transformation came forth after Ryan killed Grace.
@@petervonfrosta244 I tend to agree. I think I like this a shade better than last season’s finale. Interestingly the top 5 IMDb ratings: S6 Herogasm (my personal fave) 9.6 S2 Finale 9.4 S4 Finale 9.3 S1 Finale 9.1 3 episodes at 9.0 …S3 Finale 8.2
I think best episode of the series!!!! I will need to rewatch the full series before season five but I’m pretty sure. Very close is the season two finale … which was just as awesome !!!! Great finale and very unpredictable
Anyone saying Starlight shouldn’t be mad is a bunch of bullshit. 😂 the shapeshifter may have had Annie’s memories, but “Annie” was not acting like Annie and Hughie should have realized that, especially when they were looking for a shapeshifter. 😂
Doesn't mean it's Hughie's fault like she's making it out to be. She looked exactly like Annie and had her exact memories. Everyone would be tricked including you. Starlight was a bitch for having a go at Hughie for that and nobody's gonna change my mind. Hughie was literally raped by the girl multiple times after already being sexually assaulted the episode before and before that losing his dad. Starlight is so insensitive
@@alienanxiety Sounds like you like to nitpick over minor details and have that spoil the whole thing for you. I don’t. Plus getting blown in half is instantaneous? Whereas the other one takes time and would be painful. So make logical sense to me 🤷♂️
Every damn actor and actress in this show is phenomenal this is one of the greatest pieces of media every created. The gore and plot twists along the way are the icing on the awesome cake. S5 is gonna be absolutely LIT
Annie's performance was so good in this finale. For an on the surface dumb character like The Deep, the actor showed so much range throughout the season. Also Sage and Homelander's scene at the end from both actors side was gold... all in all you right the acting was top notch all around.
Settle down lol. Its awesome and fun, but its not in the same stratosphere as something like Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, The Wire, Mad Men, Succession.
@@ben1ben2ben1 nah you calm down.. he said one of the best, not the best. I’ve watched BB and while some of the actors are perfect (Giancarlo, Bryan, Aaron) a lot of them are just mid actors.
I don't think Butcher on his death bed was an act for Ryan. I feel like Butcher was 100% ready to die and leave his hopes of stopping Homelander with Ryan. But Mallory dropped too much too fast, and with Ryan killing her, Butcher lost that hope.
The write-off joke is directed at Zaslav, CEO and president of Warner Bros. Discovery, for doing exactly that. He also increased his salary by millions while laying off thousands of people.
He started with the Batgirl movie, which was pretty much finished. The directors, who were at a wedding at the time, only learned of this from the internet. Then continued with a Scooby Doo animated movie, which got cancelled, before they could record the soundtrack. Something they still did, despite the cancellation, since they booked their venue already [Side note: Imagine recording music for a movie you know will never see the light of day]. "Coyote vs. Acme", another finished project was shopped around, but ultimately canned for another write-off. Other studios would go on to follow his example, to devastating effects.
@@Ductos The thing with Coyote Vs. ACME is that it is reportedly a very good movie, too. Like with Batgirl I can at least understand the logic of not sinking money into promotion of a trainwreck of a movie. The Looney Tunes movie could have actually done really well for them.
@@aaronbeatdown "Like with Batgirl I can at least understand the logic of not sinking money into promotion of a trainwreck of a movie." Yeah, who wants to see a Latina Batgirl? 🤨
@@Darknamja Don't know what that has to do with what I said. Batgirl was already 20 million over budget, test screenings were supposedly widely panned, and would need an unknown amount of money to fix the movie. Add on to that the money that would then be needed to promote the movie, and I can understand the logic of thinking "maybe it's better if we cut our losses on this one" vs. the Coyote vs. ACME project that was completed and had really good buzz about it. Didn't say I agree or disagree with the decision, just that one makes more sense than the other.
@@Darknamja Yeah, don't make this a racial thing. I'd LOVE to see more women as action leads, but what I DON'T want is to see women in bad movies, because then people blame the women not the movies. Batgirl was going to be bad.
Starlight hasnt always been able to fly "like that". Earlier in the season she can barely stay balanced a few feet off the ground and Hughie is helping her train.
Maybe the trainining helped her level up and now she doesnt need electricity around to make her powers work, maybe she can drain power from the sun like supermen. Since they were in plain field and her power worked.
@@Zibi21I sure hope she can get powered up by the sun. I think she has way more potential for power than we know. She seemed to always get power from lights but the sun is like unlimited power. We saw a major power up with how fast she flew away. Think she will be way more powerful in the next season and I hope she fucks some shit up!
Perhaps the last shackle that was limiting her full potential was herself. Being unable to face her past demons, her regrets, and trying to bury the past without coming to terms with it. Fighting that shapeshifter was a big character developnent moment to confront herself. It allowed her to break through the last psychological barrier that was holding her back.
That wasn't Butcher. That was Kessler. When Kessler takes over, it seems to make Butcher look completely healthy, and also does things that Butcher himself won't do. Like Venom.
No she hasn’t always been able to fly like that…. We saw in earlier episodes that she had figured out how to hover, and kinda fly for a short distance in an uncoordinated way, but flying off like Neo at that speed was new …. and not to mention that in every previous instance of her hovering/flying she had to draw power from surrounding electricity sources in order to do it - but in the final scene they are out in the middle of nowhere so it’s not clear where she is getting power from. Maybe her powers came back with new capabilities? I guess we will have to see if they explain that in S5.
Well, I see two sides. 1) They know a shapeshifter exists and Annie isn't acting totally normally. 2) People act differently all the time, especially when they are stressed or want to cover up the fact that they are stressed. Hughie might well have accepted Annie changing a bit because he wants it to be a real change. People do that all the time too.
@@theaikidoka The first point isn't valid though cause even if they know a shapeshifter exists they have no clue about the extent of its abilities. How were they supposed to know it can take over the memories of its victims? Let's be real, without the audience being shown what happened, the shifter could become Annie at the start of the season and no one would have even suspected a thing. The fact Hughie realized so quickly is already incredibly impressive. Also even if they know about a shapeshifter, are they now supposed to not trust literally anyone, including the core members and arguably strongest member of the team barring maybe Kimiko? At that point they wouldn't even be able to function. She is just victim blaming and I'm certain that if genders were reversed there would be no discussion. Add to that your second point with the stress etc. and there is essentially no way for someone to discover the truth, literally Batman/Sherlock Holmes level of detective work needs to be done to realize she's not the real Annie. Thing is, I don't care about her grieving over this cause obviously she was also the victim in all this but I hate her for pinning it on Hughie and forcing him to apologize, essentially beg for forgiveness for getting SA'ed.
@@patrickwitek Shapeshifters are SO powerful as a narrative device. You HAVE to specify what sort of power set they have, or basically any story you tell will have a ton of loopholes. As you say, paranoia would destroy the team as effectively as physical violence - the movie 'The Thing' is a perfect example of this. I don't know if I agree that Annie is forcing Hughie to apologise, but she is not being as understanding as she could be, especially as she knows very well that the shifter has access to her memories and would therefore be able to answer any questions etc normally used to identify a fake. Realistically Hughie thought the shifter WAS Annie, he didn't cheat on her.
That's two episodes in a row that they briefly show a closeup of Sage's Queen Maeve notebook. I wonder if she will make an appearance in season 5 considering they brought back Cindy and Love Sausage this episode ( who by the way regained his powers even after Herogasm)
Damn the moment Kimiko finally spook was when she was in true danger, trying to call out to Frenchie who was being mind controlled by Cate, what an episode.
When Cate appeared on sceen my heart literally sanked, i thought she was going to do the worst to Frenchie and what's worst the one time Kimiko is able to speak frenchie cant hear her.
Kimiko's reaction to losing Frenchie is sad to watch considering she's losing YET again another person she love🤦 Peak Finale though, Can't wait for Gen-V season 2 and The Boys season 5👏👏👏
Think of Kessler like the personality of the tumor growing inside Butcher's brain. When Butcher isn't doing what Kessler wants, he starts killing Butcher slowly like a cancer, but once Butcher follows his advice, he can instantly heal Butcher. Also, as we've seen previously, Kessler is like a split personality. He can quite literally take over Butcher, which is pretty much what happens, indicated by him looking at the mirror in the end and seeing Kessler in his stead.
Grace's death is going to haunt poor Ryan. But it was definitely wrong of her to dump all that awful crap on him all at once and then following it up with threatening to imprison him with the intention of turning him into a weapon.
Tragically....I get her point....it is literally the END OF DAYS for the world at that moment.the thing she has feared and tried her damndesr to fight against for decades that took the life of so many people she loved,is happening,and the possible ONLY solution is before her
Yeah she definitely could've done with emphasising what Homelander did instead of emphasising "well it actually doesn't matter because you're stuck here"
I was kind of surprised that Butcher spared Zoe's life and made no move to hurt Annie or Kimiko. Maybe he isn't as far gone as his evil split personality wants him to be. I wonder if his Becca personality will make an appearance next season, to pull him back from going completely genocidal.
She hasn’t appeared since his suped up Kessler cancer thing told her to shut her cakehole. He still plans on genocide since that was the “bargain”. The evil side of him has complete control at this point.
I think it has to do with the fact that they weren’t an immediate threat and even Kessler took over, he is still a part of Butcher who has all his memories and thus has a tiny bit of sympathy for those he previously worked with. I wouldn’t be surprised about Zoe either since he knew about her friendship with Ryan when he met with him back in episode 1.
I love how everyone (even me and my coworkers watching this when we shouldn't have been) realized after about the second or third "No" that Kimiko is speaking.
I don't understand why people say the boys' season 4 is bad. Yeah, you could say it's the weakest season, but that doesn't mean it's bad. Being the weakest season in the boys is still better than most shows on Netflix.
@@AlbertWeskerVR I feel like one half of the people who disliked did because of this season's weird pace. I rewatched the season all at once when the last episode came out, and it was much more enjoyable to watch because the last few episodes have so much payoff. Since we were watching one episode per week, I feel like the payoff took much longer to come. But if you rewatch all at once, it comes so fast that it starts to make sense and you barely notice the weird pace of the first episodes. The other half? They dislike it because they are only now finding out that they are the people this show has been mocking since season 1 lmao.
Thank you for bringing that up because no one is talking about how strong Kessler is lmfao. Homelander lasered Newman and it didn't make a scratch, but Butcher/Kessler ripped her in half with EASE! Bro is extremely powerful.
@@MFBlooshHomelander can control the power of his lasers, like that time he warmed up a bottle of milk. He wasn't trying to off Neuman, just expose her.
Starlight started levitating in the finale of season three when Hughie supercharged her so she could fight Soldier Boy. Several times in season four Starlight has practiced "flying" with moderate results. That last flying scene was the first time she really, really flew.
@@kc1john Well Hughie begged Vicky to get away sooner, she didnt listen and thats her result. The moment HL threatened to hurt Zoe she wanted to jump the boat, was she so stupid to belive that turning her into a sup will spare her from HL wrath. Stan was also pisseeeed the moment he learned that Vicky turned Zoe into a sup, a monster. He will take Zoe out of there and move far far away.
I think Vicky hid him away so he wouldn’t be in any immediate threat for the time being. As far as everyone else is concerned, both her parents are dead and his grandfather is a fugitive so the government doesn’t think she has anyone else.
Pretty sure that what was going on with butcher was that the parasite was purposely making him unhealthy, and then when he decided to play ball fully with the parasite, the parasite healed him. Also, starlight was flying at the beginning of the season, just not as fast and as Superman like as that.
thanks for being some of the only reactors to have the balls to call that annie/hughie situation out for what it is. victim blaming in this episode was real. this show has a double standards with male victims.
My theory on who Sage meant by "the only person" Homelander can't beat is Ryan. All of Homelander's powers but without any of the psychology issues that were inflicted upon him.
So he wasn't taking more V. JDM 's character has control over him because he's the disease. When he collapsed in the bar it was JDM who made him collapse, because he wasn't going to go through with the plan. If you watch his face while he's laying there you can tell he purposely is doing it. He also tells him a few times that he can help him etc. meaning help him feel better. Once Butcher agrees (head nod) to take JDM offer when he's over Grace, that's when JDM heals him so he's strong enough to fight back.
The creator of this series is awesome Eric Kripke also did the series ' Supernatural ' with a couple Bobby supernatural references in this episode when the politician Singer said Idget and Balls his 2 most common things to say every episode he is in on supernatural, Soldier Boy is Dean Winchester Jared Padelecki ( Sam Winchester) is supposed to come to the boys in season 5 now that his Walker show got cancelled. Jeffrey Dean Morgan plays John Winchester ( The Dad ) in Supernatural. The guy at the beginning of season 4 that could clone himself is Chuck in Supernatural And it's funny the episode with multiple supernatural references has a shape shifter which they hunt shape shifters sometimes regularly in supernatural
As many said here about Butcher: He's basically Venom now, the dark impulses of his phantom ego allow him to operate free from the tumor-riddled, ambivalent, striving persona Butcher has always grappled with the past few seasons. As long as he continues down the Supe'icide path, his "Venom" appendages are at the ready!
The reason this season is so poorly rated by fans. 1. Frenchie is fucking a guy that magically did not see his ankle, the thing that would identify him as the killer of his family. 2. Huey, a tech geek does not have a backup copy of the only evidence they have... 3. The octopus having sex with Deep being out of the water for so long, having conversations and then when he needs to kill her she dies...fast...out of water Those and so many other writing flaws that did not exist in previous seasons. So many writing choices made no sense this season. The only real fuck-up with the writing before this was Victoria Neuman's powers...her eys go white when she uses them in all but the scene in court where she is popping all kinds of heads and the first one is right next to her with her eyes being normal as everyone is looking at her speaking.
I agree this season was the weakest but wasn't bad if that makes sense. A lot of this season was story setup and getting the pieces where they need to be. I think season 4 will look better after 5 comes out.
I’m so sad we have to wait 2 yrs for this to come back. I did read the comics so I know what may happen. They have changed some stuff but kept some the same. I suggest buying The Boys hardback comic book, it’s so good. BTW Nikki and Steve love the SOA stuff. I’m a retired 39 yr old Army injured Iraq vet. I’m a part of the Patriot motorcycle Guard and my pops use to be an ex Hells 😐 yeah no joke in Albuquerque and Cleveland, Ohio. Yet I still love that motorcycle life. I grew up in Albuquerque yet my pops and mom moved to Cleveland while I was serving. But yeahhh 😂 Anyways the wifey and I enjoy your reactions. We watch to relax and all that. Be good you both.
Has is ever been actually stated that Annie takes energy from electricity or can she absorb energy from the sun as well like superman? Because I'm starting to think the latter after the ending. Therefor annie might end up being seriously OP
Tbh when i saw the showwriter say he found him hughies sexual assault funny i now pretend someone else wrote the show ,that evil person shouldnt be allowed to do anything
So I found it weird that the next time we see Ryan after homelander finds the picture was with Mallory at a underground government facility, and I didn't consider being a hallucination prior to reading this comment so you might be on to something low-key
Jim Carry also has really good facial expressions as an actor. Will never forget the fact he can do the grinch face, like that wasnt just a mask he can actually physically make his face look like the grinch from that 2000s movie lol.
I get why Annie reacted that way. it's her insecurity. and to be fair, if this happens to us, we might feel bad or a little bit of it. we knew Homelander raped Becca and Ryan needs to know that. his reaction quite disappointed me. I get that he needs time to process and the strategy was not so good but it's because they don't have time anymore. anyway, I can't wait for the final season! PS. That topless steak house was not funny I agree.
Remember Hughie's Mother gave him her ring to use to marry Annie. Butcher made a deal with the parasite to kill all sup's and the parasite made the pain go away like he promised that he could do. Annie and Hughie were working on her being able to fly at the start of the season. Steven said last episode that A-Train was going to die this season. Sorry bro you were wrong! THIS ENDING WAS BEYOND EPIC!!! ONE OF THE BEST ENDINGS EVER!!! I was so confused because before I saw season 4 I thought that I saw a spoiler of Butcher Killing Homelander this season and it didn't happen which left me like WTF
I noticed a tiny little detail I missed on the first watch-through of this ep - Ashley #2 NOT being on the list. When she presumably knows a LOT of the same information that CEO Ashley knows. She was DEFINITELY there for Homelander's orders to CREATE the list. Yet, she's not on it. Kinda like Ashley's assistant that she fired for his own protection. I think Ashley deliberately left her OFF the list to protect her. Kinda sucks that it didn't work. :(
Sadly escaping reality, and choosing to not talk about real work issues, is a white pleasure. It’s everyday for black peoples and POC. We don’t get to just turn it off. TWumps second turn will literally harm the people we know and love. Vote 2024
When he’s talking about the “Stake House” in Nevada. Is he talking about that or like a steak house aka “The Bunny Ranch” I’m thinking the bunny ranch since it’s Nevada. 15:08 🤔
“She flies now?” I can’t help but express how confused I feel by this reaction. She’s literally seen training this skill throughout season 4 prior to temporarily losing her powers. So no, she couldn’t always fly…did you guys watch any of the previous episodes?
I hope starlight becomes most powerful for the next season. She could maybe absorb the power of the sun and just destroy people. Her power is light and the sun is her most powerful weapon in my opinion. Rooting for her so hard! I love that Kimiko can basically survive anything but she has zero invulnerability. She can’t even take bullets like most other supes. I want so much more power from Kimiko!
I was underwhelmed by the finale. The reality of what happened in real life recently is still weirder than what happened in the show. Also, Trump supporters literally say what the Homelanders do on the show word for word. They don't even have to make anything up. It already sounds fictionalized. But, it's not funny because it's real :/
Now you guys NEED to watch the umbrella academy. None of my reactors have watched it. The 4th and final season is about to come out and it is the not so serious super not so heroes you THOUGHT this show was gonna be. I would LOVE to see what you guys think
