Ironic that Brisbane is hosting (an engineered result) while Sydney, Melbourne, even Perth venue wise are much more appropriate cities to host. All 3 have the centre pieces of a main stadium and main arena already built and properly utilised for each cities needs. That reflects the IOC's new agenda far better than whatever Brisbane and John Coates told the IOC. Something along the line of "sustainable games, with unrealistic budget, community facilities as proxies for unbuilt venues, and the most expensive venues existing only as bland renders"
Don't think Tokyo wanna go back to hosting it if to be honest..... like qld government, the tokyo metropolitan government is under pressure after their fart 2021 games. Was good but but got lots of complaints from locals.
The olympics in the last 20-30 years has become absolutely obscene in its waste. If you go back to the 50's and adjust for inflation, the entire cost of the olympics was... about $0.2b and for that they were able to build a 115,000 person stadium. Absolutely bonkers. Today such a stadium would be $3-$4b, even though less workers would build it. But there would be about a 1000x fold increase in middle men shell companies taking their cut. If you think it really costs $2b to build a statdium, I don't know what to tell you. It wouldn't even have over $0.2b in materials.
I think people need to accept that the days of spending massive amounts of public funds for the Olympic Games are gone for everywhere except perhaps China before they fall into a financial hole, or maybe India for an ego trip. It is just that the timing of the Brisbane games means that they are the current example of a government needing to pair back the largess. The cancellation of the Commonwealth Games in Vic recently did not need to happen. That decision could kill off the Comm games permanently. Melbourne could have easily hosted the Comm games in existing facilities with only the athlete's village needing to be built and given the enormous need for more housing that build project is a no brainer. It might seem that not building new facilities for the Brisbane games is embarrassing now, but in the near future that is going to be the international reality, because these major events do not pay back the investment, despite the blue sly projections from the consultants and lobbyists.
The olympics are retracting, Tokyo was the last big spend and they got screwed by the bug. I am going to Paris in 5 weeks, they are not really doing much in facilities, LA is using a 100 year old stadium. Agree they really need to fix the Gabbatoir as the best option. But sounds like Brisso will be going down the craptacular lipstick on a pig approach. Fear the olympics are heading down the path of comm games of becoming a wash out, funny given corporations have never been richer, but seems the owners now want to spend that money on themselves instead of investing in the countries where they extracted the loot from.
I believe LA in '84 is the only time an Olympics has ever made a profit for the host country; it was built on a $500M budget and they just renovated existing stadiums and used cheap materials like foam for signage (LA doesn't get extreme weather and they only needed to last a month anyway). There was also all the TV and sponsorship deals as well which put the games in the black.
It's already a disorganised shit show, & they haven't even started building yet!! Palashit got talked into it, but NOBODY up here wants them. Cancel it NOW!
At the rate they’re going, Swimming events will be held at the Manly Baths, athletics at Ballsac stadium, and the opening ceremony at Brighton homes arena.
I have no idea how Brisbane are allowed to even keep the games, such a sh.t show, they have no idea what they are doing. You forgot to mention they are nearly finished a new cross river rail project with a station across from the Gabba, to bring people to the stadium for sporting events and are now not rebuilding the stadium. It’s such a joke in QLD, would be funny if it was not so embarrassing
When Brisbane was the only city stupid enough to bid on the games you know that there is something fundamentally wrong. Bail out now and cut the losses otherwise the taxpayers will be paying for it for generations.
I understand your point 100% 👍 But with the right spending and with peoples hearts in the right place we could make this a complete success. If the Queensland government makes themselves the majority shareholder on ALL stadiums and infrastructure we could benefit from this for DECADES to come. Think about the events held at these places in the future. And think about the revenue the Queensland government can collect week in week out, month after month, year after year. Money that can go towards housing, education, hospitals, roads bridges etc etc. But the Queensland Government HAS to be the majority shareholder for it to be effective. For it to benefit as many Queenslanders as possible It’s like the lottery People pay there money to be entertained, ( football, concerts, conferences etc) But EVERYONE who enjoys these events are actually paying a % every week to improve the lives of every Queenslander Stay Rad my friend 🫵👍
@@dragonoftheeast695 Bullshit. Brisbane is just not fully committed to the Olympics. Glorified country towns ought not be hosting the most important sporting spectacle in the world. Unlike Sydney. 2️⃣0️⃣0️⃣0️⃣
worst choice to host the olympics . Australia is getting run into the ground and you wonder why its failing. remember they took 20billion a year from smokers but seem to be broke. it makes no sense
In the last 20 years, all the host nations for Summer Olympic making huge loss for the game, that why many country want it anymore. China the richest country still dont want the Olympic game. Brisbane pay billion of dollar for the name appear in the international map. The truth cost for the Olympic around $5-10 billion dollar. A very expensive advertisement instead of using the money for something else.
The original bid didn't have a knock down of the Gabba.. Leave it at that, just have a minor renovation, and just improve the access from the new 'metro' line. The QSAC spend is just dumb, particularly when you consider how much the temporary stands for the New York T20 stadium cost.
That's because the politicians and AOC mandarins know embarrassingly fa about sports architecture. It's shameful to think that no one actually bothered to look at the dimensions of the Gabba vs the needed dimensions of an athletics track and how many seats would be obstructed or lost. They just saw that both were some version of an oval so all good 🤦 they'd probably confuse and ice rink for a tennis court because they're both rectangular
The Gabba has never sold out since it was built in 2005. Source AUS Stadiums. The state desperately needs a second rectangular field for the Brisbane Roar, Queensland Reds, and womens Football, NRL etc. How on earth, they can't figure out how to just upgrade the existing Gabba, build a second stadium for $3bn is beyond me. Where on earth is this money going? I can't believe they went from one boneheaded idea, to another bone headed idea. Large stadiums, and absolutely worthless in this country. Every major code, is crying out for multiple stadiums at a maximum of 20k capacity and we keep on building zero atmosphere caverns no one will attend, especially this one, in which it will never sell out after the Olympics.
Because of the power and influence of the CMFEU in QLD building costs here are the highest in the nation. Any of the builds/rebuilds will have huge cost blow outs. And the state is grappling with huge debt. Bidding for the games will be an unmitigated long term disaster for the state.
Well said, makes sense to renovate the Gabba for the Olympics and continue to use it in the AFL and cricket. Better ROI than wasting money on the old ANZ Stadium that hasn’t been used for even rugby for over 20 years.
I did a Sports Eco unit in my final semester of uni last year. We read academic literature on the effects of the Olympics on cities and their infrastructure, was quite interesting to see that the community doesn’t benefit as much as you’d think. On another note we did our assignment on the Macquarie point stadium in Hobart, for the Tassie Devils. We concluded that it would be an expensive exercise and that renovation of both existing grounds in the short term whilst the club finds its feet in the AFL, as building an expensive boutique stadium in a small market is a recipe for disaster
I don't know why people think the Gabba is a good location. Who places a stadium right beside three of the most busiest streets on the southside? What were they thinking leaving so little space for the crowds to spill out onto after the game ends? Anyone caught in traffic gridlock trying to drive along Stanley St/ Vulture St/ Ipswitch Rd during an event will agree with me: it's just a really poorly designed setup. Plus the adjacent state school issues.... If the Gabba is reaching it's end-of-life usability, then it's time to relocate to Victoria Park. Give the new stadium some surrounding green-space, better public transport and walkability to the CBD. Just like what the MCG, SCG, Adelaide Oval and Perth Optus stadiums have. We could do that: a new world-quality Olympic stadium that showcases a huge (revamped) parkland, and a legacy cricket/ AFL stadium to rival other capital cities. We'd also be able to keep the old Gabba site as desperately needed greenspace for the increasingly-dense Woolloongabba suburb. Or maybe an oval and breathing space for the existing state primary school -with so many units being added to the area, there's bound to be future demand for expansion.
The difference is Queensland went into this with honest (maybe not so wise) intent. Victoria's Commonwealth Games fiasco was a straight out vote grabbing political stunt.
@@Myne1001 I think the commonwealth games will die off for sure…. Victoria could have just purely recreated 2006 games rather than to fling sports around the state…
OP You say it is unusual for Labor to be in for any length of time as qld is conservative. Labor has been in power in Qld for almost the WHOLE TIME for the last 35 years. Most in Australia.
People forget that renovating Suncorp is also going to be a complete money blow-out. What was needed in relocation costs whilst the Gabba was being rebuilt? Didn't they ask the AFL and Cricket Australia to contribute $90 odd million? Just to relocate to a temporary stadium built at the Ekka site. Didn't that cost-blowout dummy spit result in the cluster-show we've got now? Now compare that to Suncorp, a workhorse of a stadium that hosts two NRL teams, the A-league's Brisbane Roar AND Super Rugby's Qld Reds. Are all these footy codes going to be asked to fork out $90 million for their temporary relocation stadium? What's the hidden costs in upgrading Suncorp Stadium?
Absolutely perfect analysis. Good video. Build a new stadium, like Perth, with the plan afterwards for that facility being used for International cricket, AFL, concerts and other big events. Downgrade the Gabba to state cricket and local footy like WA has done with the WACA Ground. And since Brisbane accepted the Olympics there is no getting out of it, so they have to stump up the cash to put it on. Hopefully it will work out. They have eight years left. Don’t waste it Queensland.
@@fido5132 yep I agree. Downgrade both Gabba and Suncorp and build a new multi purpose 65-75k stadium. Even without Olympics, they will still need a stadium of that nature. Its can be designed in a way like Wellington stadium except on a bigger scale. Reason why I say Suncorp should be decreased is because of the restrictions on big events (20 events allowed per year over 30k) and also its will reach a stage where a major makeover is needed, even tho it’s good at the moment. Also restricted heavily within the city limits so no way to expand it. Gabba, same story but lower capacity and no restrictions to big events. Stuck between a city and no room to expand to over 55k. I think smaller games should remain such as test cricket, some afl games should remain at the smaller Gabba and some league/soccer games remains at the smaller Suncorp. I think what type of games should be played at the big stadium (if that happens) - Big ticket NRL games: such as broncos hosting other qld teams, brissy derby against dolphins, some syd and interstate teams. Origin, finals and a possible NRL grand final (if a qld team comes first), since it’s would be almost on par to Accor. - Cricket: most 1 days or 20/20 of ether state or national level. Only test would be ashes. - AFL: like NRL, big tickets games and finals. - Soccer: since a-league is smaller, I would only say grand final or some semi finals. All national games would be held there. As well as usual concerts and whatnot.
Watching this video from Glasgow, Scotland. I thought that we were regressive and in a political need for action. The fact that we will probably be hosting the 2026 Commonwealth Games, just 12 years away from hosting in 2014. The Brisbane need is something similar to Glasgow. We need a new national stadium, like Brisbane needing to replace the Gaba. We need other stadium facilities to be given a renovation. And we need a quality maybe 20,000 athletes stadium that can be expanded when needed with temporary seating. What I find is that the political leaders miss that it’s not the sporting need that comes from the usage of stadiums. They miss the point that concerts and the prestige they bring (Eras Tour) puts the city or region on the map. Yes Melbourne and Sydney get more dates, if Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth were to get 3 nights each, the boost to the economy is more than worth it. I think the time of the big spend Olympic/Commonwealth games is over. I can see them being more scaled back, arguably go on a world tour of cities that can host them and have the facilities to do so. Think London/Tokyo/Beijing for talkings sake.
Why is it a disaster? Just use what we have, upgrade here and there. Spend the money on infrastructure for the city instead. No one will care in 2033 how the ceremony was
Brisbane bidded for the olympics in a effort to become a globaly recognised ciity yet are not willing to spend the money and build the infastructure to support it. They are building 2 new arenas (why....?) but can't find the money to build a propper stadium. Sell the gabba, build 1 new area and spend the rest on a decent stadium in vic park. Only have to look at how many international acts have not come to Brisbane because theres no suitable venue. Suncorp is to small and just doesn't cut it.
The government has completely stuffed this. After having watched Paris, Tokyo 3 years ago, and of course LA in 4 years will have a great stadium, a whole new stadium needs to be built. Qsac ain't going to cut the mustard. Don't even think about cancelling the Olympics, Australia will never get it again. They need to do it and do it right. Failing that Queenslanders need to swallow their pride and let Sydney do it. They already have the facilities. Failing that Australia are going to look really stupid in the eyes of the world and we'll probably never get a sporting event ever again. At least not this side of 2100. Message to whoever wins the QLD election in a few months, don't make us look stupid in the eyes of the world. Do it and get it right.
Even though we have amounted pressure on us, we still have eight years until 2032 which should hopefully be enough time to find a solution and work around that
Don’t forget the Games was the LNP Brisbane City Council’s brain fart. They were all for the Gabba rebuild but then they decided to play politics and pull out of the Gabba rebuild. As for Victoria Park, that land was left to Brisbane with the understanding it remains public open space.
Palaszczuk has left a plethora of disasters behind her. The only thing Queenslanders can be thankful for is that they had her, and not Daniel Andrews who totally destroyed Victoria
But this IS doing it properly! Very recently the IOC has made it clear they want cities to show how the Olympics can be hosted efficiently and economically. This will be demonstrated in Paris, with the aquatics Centre being the only new major venue. The reason Brisbane ended up winning by default, and the comm games face the very real prospect of going defunct, is because these events have become far too expensive to host with the escalation in fancy new venues and monolithic Olympic sites that often end up turning into white elephants. Would it be a better use of money to build a new stadium that will last decades than spend a ton of money on a temporary solution? Maybe.. but that would still cost a lot more money, and with the IOC's decree, and the cost of living issues, there will be a focus on penny pinching. If you really want to have a go at the current Olympics plan, have a go at the failure to get heavy rail to Maroochydore in time. Useful infrastructure was the reason Brisbane bid, and it's also something the IOC encourages focus on.
If they’re going to commit to the Games, then commit to them properly. Either redevelop the aging Gabba or build the new precinct at Victoria Park… but QSAC is a joke 😂
It’s an absolute embarrassment. So many opportunities lost that could benefit the City long-term because of incompetent government. They’re putting on a second-class games. I live in Brisbane and I’m very disappointed.
Melbourne would of been a better equipped city for the Olympics while the 1956 Olympics involved the city building a bunch of new venues and rebuilding the MGC in top of revamping the city’s train and tram networks with new trains being designed and built in preparation for the Olympics. They could also easily renovate the sports precinct and do some light renovations on the MCG while Marvel Stadium has also already very recently been renovated.
Nah, the IOC is hell bent on a July-September window for broadcast, during which time Melbourne is fkn freezing and the AFL season in full swing. The 1956 Olympic Games took place in November but given that US Presidential Elections also take place in leap year Novembers, US TV networks would be up in arms about having to split their coverage of the two. That leaves rainy October, December which is close to Christmas, and January-March, which may not be overly suitable for the four yearly Olympic cycles many sports operate with. I doubt that Melbourne, or any other southern hemisphere city in the cool climate zones, will ever get a look in. I think the Olympics itself is starting to be an outdated concept but that’s for another comment.
The Olympic stadium was originally supposed to be at Albion, replacing Allan Border Field. The International Olympic Committee canned the idea because it would have cost too much. The Gabba was the backup plan. Victoria Park is the absolute WORST option because that land was given to the city on the understanding it would only be a park and never developed for anything else.
Brisbane is just not fully committed to the Olympics. Glorified country towns ought not be hosting the most important sporting spectacle in the world. Unlike Sydney. 2️⃣0️⃣0️⃣0️⃣
The only truly recognisable Australian city outside of the country is Sydney for it's big attractions, and Melbourne for sports fans. Brisbane isn't known on any international scale.
Bullshit. I'm from Melbourne, and I'm confident Brizzie will do a great job of hosting the games. I remember hearing the same crap peddled in this video before Sydney 2000.
Sydney had a decent plan back in '93 and delivered a great Olympics but times have changed a lot in 30 years. COVID and the cost of living pressures today aren't helping things and a lot people in Brisbane don't want the Olympics.
@@jimrogers2390 The olympics are no longer an marqueee sporting event as you dont have to wait 4 years to see a curated highlights package of fencing, race walking and kayak slalom. just look at the olympics YT and see the eyeballs and engagement they are getting, you have content creators doing consistently higher numbers.
@@mathewferstl7042 not sure what that has to do with it. You need to say what you mean. It shows balls. Candle. See I can say random words to, still not an insult. Mercury. Another one.
Why are you so keen on the Qld government spending money on the olympics? They should be spending as little as possible. QSAC is not obsolete or falling down. I'm guessing you're not from Qld, so if you're so worried about it why don't you get your government to pay for it. The olympics are a giant grift with no meaning in the modern age.
I understand your point 100% 👍 But with the right spending and with peoples hearts in the right place we could make this a complete success. If the Queensland government makes themselves the majority shareholder on ALL stadiums and infrastructure we could benefit from this for DECADES to come. Think about the events held at these places in the future. And think about the revenue the Queensland government can collect week in week out, month after month, year after year. Money that can go towards housing, education, hospitals, roads bridges etc etc. But the Queensland Government HAS to be the majority shareholder for it to be effective. For it to benefit as many Queenslanders as possible It’s like the lottery People pay there money to be entertained, ( football, concerts, conferences etc) But EVERYONE who enjoys these events are actually paying a % every week to improve the lives of every Queenslander Stay Rad my friend 🫵👍
@@chriswatson7965 yes, school carnivals and Qld athletics meets that attract no more than the school carnivals. It is very much obsolete. The temporary stands only remain because the maintenance costs are so low. The stadium is not up to code let alone offering the kind of sightlines, accessibly, corporate facilities, athlete facilities expected in today's sports market. It is currently no more than an oversized community facility. It also has terrible public transport access, reflecting the erroneous trends in planning from 45 years ago. It's not fit for purpose now, and will be the worst outcome of the 3 proposals in the medium and long-term if redeveloped for $1.6 billion (not including public transport infrastructure )
Great video 🫵👍 But with the right spending and with peoples hearts in the right place we could make this a complete success. If the Queensland government makes themselves the majority shareholder on ALL stadiums and infrastructure we could benefit from this for DECADES to come. Think about the events held at these places in the future. And think about the revenue the Queensland government can collect week in week out, month after month, year after year. Money that can go towards housing, education, hospitals, roads bridges etc etc. But the Queensland Government HAS to be the majority shareholder for it to be effective. For it to benefit as many Queenslanders as possible It’s like the lottery People pay their money to be entertained, ( football, concerts, conferences etc) But EVERYONE who enjoys these events are actually paying a % every week to improve the lives of every Queenslander Yes it’s going to cost us, But future Queenslanders , our children , our grand children will forever be greatful and proud of us ❤️ Stay Rad my friend 🫵👍
As a Queenslander, it’s incredibly embarrassing to think that Brisbane is going to try and host an Olympics but isn’t willing to spend the money necessary to do it properly, either do it correctly or pull out now. On top of that, if they spent $1.6 billion on a temporary stadium which is in a terrible location only to rip it down after, I think that’s an even bigger waste of money than just upgrading the Gabba or building the new stadium. Queensland had a huge budget surplus last year, surely if the state government keeps that happening some of that money can be sent off to be spent on the Olympics?
Brisbane is just not fully committed to the Olympics. Glorified country towns ought not be hosting the most important sporting spectacle in the world. Unlike Sydney. 2️⃣0️⃣0️⃣0️⃣
100% agree👍👍👍 With the right spending and with peoples hearts in the right place we could make this a complete success. If the Queensland government makes themselves the majority shareholder on ALL stadiums and infrastructure we could benefit from this for DECADES to come. Think about the events held at these places in the future. And think about the revenue the Queensland government can collect week in week out, month after month, year after year. Money that can go towards housing, education, hospitals, roads bridges etc etc. But the Queensland Government HAS to be the majority shareholder for it to be effective. For it to benefit as many Queenslanders as possible It’s like the lottery People pay their money to be entertained, ( football, concerts, conferences etc) But EVERYONE who enjoys these events are actually paying a % every week to improve the lives of every Queenslander Yes it’s going to cost us, But future Queenslanders , our children , our grand children will forever be greatful and proud of us ❤️ Stay Rad my friend 🫵👍
@@user-kc1tf7zm3b do u even live in australia bro? brisbane is like the 3rd largest city in australia, behind sydney and melbourne. not a country town in the slightest
The weird thing is… in 2021, the need to tear down some old facilities and build new ones would’ve made sense… because it would’ve probably happened anyway without the goalpost of 2032. The Gabba was falling behind the renovated Adelaide Oval and the new Optus Stadium, so a rebuild/refresh on the 2000 Olympics rebuild wasn’t unexpected. The talk of replacing the distant (and almost 40 years old) Brisbane Entertainment Centre at Boondall with a larger, city-centre Brisbane Live was constant. Instead, Suncorp (which will need a refresh by 2032 but isn’t too antiquated right now) and QSAC (a massive land footprint that really needs to be totally reassessed) seem like odd Olympic bedfellows.
She did it during the height of a "killer pandemic" while the rest of them were locked down for a virus so deadly you had to be tested for it🙄Absolute power move. Look into who her dad is.
BRISBANE..... the stadium situation is a joke. a bigger joke is the public transport. the only 2 cities with suffient infrastructure in australia to host are SYDNEY and MELBOURNE. id say save face and shift the games to either of those cities. reference SYDNEY, it will have a second airport by then, and both airports are well connected to the public transport system. whats more the nsw government has a history of good financial management and transparency.
the australian economy now looks like its getting sick..... and the queensland government does not have a good fiscal record.... brisbane. olimpics.... no money, no main stadium, no decent transport infrastructure.... what a joke.
because I am under 18, I am technically living under a dictatorship and even if i did have a say on government policies, due to my young age, they would just laugh me off and say i am too dumb and need to get an education. I'm 16 and just because I am not finished school, doesn't mean I can't plan the olympics better than them.
With 5 billion already contractually locked in from the IOC and the federal government plus at least another 2 billion expected from ticket sales and sponsorship it's not likely that the people of Brisbane will be paying for much of it.
Representative democracy means you vote for them and they make the decisions. Also the QLD govt spends over a hundred billion dollars a year. If you want the population to vote on how every billion dollars is allocated you’re gonna be doing a fair bit of voting
You do know that cities now don’t want to spend so much money on the Olympics and in preparing them, right? Using already existing venues is what cities like Paris and LA are doing now if they’re going to host the Olympics. but who knows, Brisbane still have 8 years left to work it out
Australia is rich. I'm sure Queenslanders can afford the $20 Billion for the Olympics. Brisbane will put on a good show. My only problem is Brisbane hosting is that the IOC did not seem open to any of the other bids. They anointed Brisbane a the favorite city from the outset with hardly any debate. This is likely de to the fact that the IOC VP is Australian and this was his vanity project.
Sydney had 7 years to prepare for the 2000 Games, Brisbane has 8 years as of today, so time is still on Brisbane's side. Miles Govt is a joke so we can write off 2024; so 7 years remaining. I would prefer keep the Gabba; you need to upgrade it, boost capacity but do it minimally. I would think about rebuilding one half of the stadium then you can do something with the pedestrian plaza. I would put Vulture St and Stanley St underground so you can pedestrianize north and south of the ground as well.
Victoria Park has been the most logical option... rail access on the exhibition line, busway access, also close to cbd, could have really been a comparable sporting district to Yarra Park in Melbourne in terms of location and truly would have made Brisbane a world class city they say they want to be. Unfortunately the other alternatives to building on top of Roma street and the backlash from the community affected from rebuilding the gabba, I'd bet that the only outcomes will be either pulling out completely or try to polish a turd at QSAC to save money.
Victoria Park is the WORST option. The land was given to the city on the understanding it would never be anything except public parkland. The original option for the Olympic stadium was at Albion, replacing Allan Border Field. That was canned because it would have been too expensive but would have turned out cheaper than any of the options discussed in this video.
5:28 you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Qld has had a Labor govt for 28 out of the last 35 years. We are deemed conservative but obviously prefer Labor
Brisbane carry on like they are the next world city but a city forges that reputation over time by taking risks, and dreaming and doing big. I understand that there are so many pressures on government budgets but don't put your hat in the ring if you can't walk the talk. If the LNP plans are not Olympic sized and centred as much as possible close to the city (not 12 KM away!) then they need to hand back the license ASAP.
There was even talk of cricket at AFL playing at the Ekka while the Gabba was being redeveloped. You have to keep in mind to that there is federal funding attached to this.
We are all paying for this in case nobody noticed how expensive is to live in Brisbane. I wish they cancel the whole thing. So many homeless people and all they are doing is spending money we Queenslanders don't have.
Why spend a lot of money building something this scale in a small city? Why not to do it in Sydney (2000 Olympics) which has already all the venues necessary and all the infrasctructure needed ?
While we need a revitalised Gabba, (imagine The Ashes without the Gabba) what we actually need are innovative, creative, outside-the-box thinkers. Paris won't even use a stadium for the opening ceremony. I am not clever enough to come up with an alternative, but clever people should and will.
Everything is just a plan and nobody is paying attention yet. The IOC are big on legacy so I suspect they will push for renovation of the Gabba which will be used heaps into the future over other plans. The Olympic does need a lot of venues to host so I would expect several temporary stadia. We got 8 years to get it right so let’s see rather than whinge.
The Labor state government has ruined EVERYTHING. Proposal after proposal, better every time. Not only bringing stadiums but legendary new districf, sports facilities and housing. All being denied by the state government. The northshore proposal was going to be paid by a PRIVATE COMPANY, and they still denied it. They are likely doing this to get back at the liberals for winning the city council elections, considering they cancelled the Victoria Park plan (this was going to be a huge game changer for the inner city and the Olympics) almost immediately after the city council elections. We must kick labor out of the state government if Brisbane wants to even attempt to host the Olympics. Brisbane 100% has the ability to do this and blow the world away, but it is our terrible state government doing this to us.
They should do what sydney did, they got it right, go out west & build an Olympic park, in Brisbane case it will be at Springfield plenty of land out there, train stations are already there & it's only half hour from Brisbane cbd, afl & nrl will eventually have a team out there so both codes will use it
I wouldn’t say no one, but it doesn’t hold the same lure it used to. As a child in 1996 I remember everyone getting geed up for Atlanta, but can’t say the same about Paris. Tokyo was a bit different as the games were on at a reasonable time, but Paris won’t be. I guess the difference, aside from me being older and more cynical, would be that in 1996 the average person could only watch local sports like AFL, rugby league and cricket. Now anyone can stream anything from around the world. EPL, UCL, NFL, NBL etc are now followed almost as keenly as local sports, so the novelty factor of watching international sport at the Olympics has worn off.
Sydney might be the only city in Australia that is suitable to host. We have Accor Stadium, Allianz Stadium, the SCG, Commbank Stadium, and if we need them Leichhardt Oval, Jubilee Stadium, and Campbelltown stadium! 🇦🇺
Imagine needing a new stadium so badly that not even the Olympics can make it happen 😂 Perth is more ready to represent Australia. Brisbane people should be embarrassed that we are always given such crap compared to all the other cities. Just look at the Brisbane Metro 🤪
Absolute madness is renovating QSAC! All the major town planning firms have come out and unanimously agreed Victoria Parklands redevelopment is what the city needs. I believe its a wasted opportunity not to build the new stadium / events centre there. Its close to the city, has easy transport links, and currently not being used for much, etc... The up coming election will be telling as to how this pans out. Typically the LNP government sees an uptick in Construction and Development.
What are you taking about, saying it is unusual for Queensland to have a long lasting Labor government? The reality is almost the exact opposite. Queensland has the strongest tradition of Labor government of all Australian states. Since Federation, Queensland has had 84 years of Labor government, with five Labor governments that managed to go consecutive terms in office. Meanwhile, just one conservative government wasn't immediately voted out. There hasn't been a long-lived conservative government in the last 30 years, and conservatives have managed to govern for just five years in that time (about half of it in minority). Compare this to Victoria where the Labor party didn't win two elections in a row until 1985. Since Federation, they've spent 82 years under conservative governments, and 11 of the most recent 30 years have been under conservatives.
I think brisbane is a fine host for it, we don't need wank style stuff like LA or Paris. The IOC can eat shit if they want top of the line stuff. But I will say one thing for brisbane, build an 70-75k stadium (65k in oval format, 70-75k for rectangular). Its will have a better use even after the olympics rather than a QSAC or Gabba upgrade. Also there will be a bonus of an QLD rugby league teams using the new stadium as an option and also could pivot NRL to do an first ranked team of QLD (or if the storm or warriors decide to) can host their grand final there, rather than play in Sydney.
Thanks for sharing. The Olympics reached its pinnacle in 2000. It is not what it used to be. 2/3 of the sports are too obscure for widespread audiences. World Cup Soccer would be a far better event with interest still growing globally. Nobody noticed the 1982 games and nobody will notice the Brisbane Olympics except the historians.
Bad situation, as somone on the south side who can walk to the Gabba, id prefer a gabba rebuild, - the small portion of NIMBYS, can go take a hike Still maybe the poster coud at least do some reaserch on the state politics of QLD. - The state has has been ruled from the centre left by the labour party - for 30 of the last 35 years.
A friend and I were saying from day 1 to build a stadium at Victoria Park. Low and behold the review stated as such. For longterm sporting legacy this is the best option. For funding there should be more private money involved. A stadium, a modern stadium is not just seats. There are commercial opportunities for restaurants, fast food chains and the like.
Honestly go ahead with the gabber design. But they need to focus on transport and refurbish some existing stadiums and arenas. They got 8 years left, 2 to start building and 1 year left for last minute changes. not just that they need to look at Sydney and try not to go grandiose like the other countries after China.
They should just rebuild the gabba. But 50K seems a little low for such a big venue. I say put your eggs into building a new state of the art stadium thats futureproof
Both the ALP and LNP are obsessed with stadiums and training facilities for NRL and AFL Teams. They have both wasted billions of dollars on this insanity. The Olympic Games is the worst possible use of Tax Payers money.
