The British Empire: The Complex Truth 

I wonder if you are aware of “ History debunked” aka Simon Webb I would love you both to have a conversation

Isn’t it the finest … absolutely brilliant just interesting interesting and entertaining too

1:23:00 Really? Given that many contemporary Jews who would know say otherwise this seems another echo of the anti-Catholic black legend...and of course there is also the context of the Evil Empire which was already known to have committed mass slaughter and atrocities before any fascists had even existed.

At the end of your videos you mention a way to have lunch with you - how is that arranged?

@@anitasimon7201 David will meet you at any Wetherspoon in the London area.

I think “woke” as a term will age quite quickly. I prefer William the Abnegator, one who abnegated his responsibilities to his country, it’s history, culture, institutions and people. Conceder or Conferrer have a nice alliteration with Conquerer, but neither really capture the sense of reckless abandonment that I feel is appropriate.

Richard why are you waffling on. Tell us how to be a racist Without saying so. Be a man Say so. Don't behave like a mouse.

@@joedias7946 Did you reply to the wrong comment?

@@joedias7946 Are you a racist or do you want to have cartoon enemies? The idea that all people are equal is transparently untrue. They are all different and there is a huge variation within each population. But to expect all groups to be the same, to have the same averages, is absurd. It requires faith to believe such an absurd idea. The idea that differences in outcomes is proof of racism by white people is far more absurd than transubstantiation or belief in witches in league with Satan.

​@@tenacioustubbs8358 I don't understand. I only see what wonderful and kind people both the Prince and Princess of Wales are. Is there reason to suspect that he will not be good for the people. Sincere question. I would so appreciate an honest explanation, if you can take the time.

You will not be disappointed.

@@philipbrooks402 I certainly was not. I'm also very excited to hear of his announcement that he'll have a regular slot on GB News!

Tea? I’m making a G&T. Get the limes!

I’m enjoying the fruits of the commonwealth and drinking Caribbean Spiced Rum.

@@stablish4314 Very appropriate, as it happens.

I used to be very critical of the British Empire in my youth, but like you I have mellowed. Once you see flaws in your own nature, you begin to forgive similar in others. Isn’t Starkey an Irish name?

@@HelenA-fd8vl The musician Feargal Starkey is certainly Irish anyway.

@@theknowledge.6869 It’s Feargal Sharkey, not Starkey.

@@HelenA-fd8vl I googled it. A referenced source says the name was first found in Cheshire, but another suggests Lancashire.

Ringo is from Liverpool.

I just love listening to Dr Starkey. It is not like being educated but almost entertained. I listen to him at the gym enables me to do more work because I want to keep listening to him.

Dapper is such an under used word these days.

@Sate Fate I support the claim, but like you said, war of goverments, the war is a nasty business, many and i included don't support the Junta and the beligerant diplomacy, i believe in negotiations but for now my country is far away to negotiations in condition because: economy greetings from the south my friend

@Nick Morris I dont wan't to use this space to debate another topic, sorry mate is disrespectful to David Starkley, i only want to make clear that point and ended there

@@alejo7365 Between 1831 and 1832 the Falklands Islands were under the de facto control of both the United States and later on Argentina. Less then one years control almost 200 years ago is not a legitimate basis for a claim of sovereignty.

@@alejo7365 to the. b bb. bijib

@@alejo7365 do you know about the wiping out of slaves in Argentina

And we are unlucky to have America and its "culture" going around now trying to be the self-appointed World police.. Please stay out of other countries affairs. Thank you.

@@87stevan that's not "American" culture, that is Hollywood culture.... All Western countries are playing world police right now. The British are the OG of world police (next to the Roman Empire) but I still love ya'!

@@baylorsailor He’s a troll, don’t feed the 🧌

@@baylorsailor The key term is "self appointed" Pax Romana and Pax Britannica actually existed, but with Pax Americana literally no one asked for it or wants it, (Hitler himself respected the presence and reality of the British Empire (Pax Britannica) and didn't wish to infringe on it's existence, because even to a man like him that idea was just insane...America didn't have such quibbles) there has not been peace or prosperity, just American enlargement, which on the whole means cultural genocide (even genocide of it's own earlier and original culture pre-revolution). You can't from within America, just ignore people who say they are witnessing a unique American culture destroy their own and that of others with no justification or merit.

Nah, other than the English language, USA and British Empire has nothing in common seriously.

@Somewhatskeptical and lots of experts and non-experts would no doubt disagree with your viewpoint. So?

@Somewhatskeptical how do you know what he's read?

@Somewhatskeptical 'expert'--seems knowledgeable to me.

@Somewhatskeptical off topic there, skep; he seems on target and well read.

@Somewhatskeptical In the context of writing, researching and publishing history, what is a 'recognised expert'?

yeah and the attitudes ,beliefs and prejudices of that time never went away so do me a favour with that nonsense

@@chrisbennett6260 What an interesting comment. However, perhaps your comments re. attitudes, beliefs and prejudices never going away would be better directed at those nations who have never expressed regret over their own disgusting behaviour, nor have been held to account. Of course that would mean admitting that all peoples, or various countries, cultures, and shade of skin, are equally guilty. Now that would never do, would it Mr or Ms Bennett, I mean we all know that only white folks have ever indulged in evil practices. Er no. So please, do me a favour and stop with your nonsense.

The good old morally superior Christians and their slave trade

BRITAIN carries the necessary guilt because it was built on theft and oppressive rule a process still alive and kicking today.

He reminds me a little of the historian AJP Taylor who did the same sort of thing on TV. Oddly enough AJP was from a working-class Lancashire background just as Dr Starkey is. Yes so am I, but not quite so clever. Not quite :)

Such deeply delusional nonsense about one of the most hated countries in the world. All around the globe, the british flag is called "The Butcher's Apron" for the very good reason that the brits murdered more people of color than any other nationality in history. It is sad to see all these posters who clearly have no real understanding of the uk's actual position on the world stage. White people in the uk will literally believe anything.

Agreed

​@Nick Morris Maybe just something to reflect on a more positive side of British history? The British empire did have a positive side, abolition of international slavery, the cure for smallpox, creation of penicillin, industrial revolution etc. We focus too much on the crimes in my opinion, everyone playing the victim of all conquering England!

Empire day when it is lost. Oh lord how great we are.bless us.

No, you meant, David, you are a fascist. No need to thank me!

This man is a absolute disgrace. How can he say the Holocaust was a lot worse than slavery, slavery lasted 400yrs, how many humans died in that time, millions of humans were chucked over board on the journey, how many humans were born as a slave and died as a slave. Give thanks he’s been removed from mainstream and now in back alleys chatting is shit 😂😂😂

You bloody coward.

Ted Heath prime minister at the time was blackmailed by German secret service because he was a pedophili, he enrolled Britain into the eu/common market Then they realised this should have been legally approved by a referendum of the peoples vote, so they held one after we joined and too no surprise, they won the approval, Basically it looked like we were taken into the EU by blackmail and fraud.

We lost America is never mentioned. Why, why

@Chase Williams There was talk of a federall empire in the early 20th century but Canada and Australia were becoming nations in their own right and didn't want to do it.

@@crowbar9566 I thought it was because politicians even in UK were divided by how practical this federation would be and how it would be handled, then those talks were prevented by WW1 and rising nationalism in settler colonies after that put a final nail in the coffin

@@poyo6838 I can't remember to be honest

I recognize its hard to get over the difficulty of having the benefit of being an average white guy in the face of so much imagined discrimination but I know you can do it!

@@davidr2802 Why not give your own analysis instead of making personal comments about others. Or, is that actually why you are watching?

I'm 35 and whenever there was mention of British history at school it always seemed to be negative! I was at school during the Blaire years and I can fully understand why there is so much self hatred amongst some of the younger people in this country! It was taught to them!

@@thehound9638 Hi👋🏻

@@georgehetty7857 Evening George. 👍

@@thehound9638 🍺?

@@georgehetty7857 Not tonight mate, I'm still recovering from last night! I got a little carried away after bumping into an old friend. 🤒🤢

Islam and England both hated Christendom, so both are bad unlike the glorious of imperial Spain.

Its still going on, it's called the Kafala system - its touted in east africa as some kind of work abroad scheme but when the get to the middle east the agency takes their passports and hand them over to the family where the are kept in bonded servitude for a fixed time and of course, they have no rights. The old more 'traditional' system of chattel slavery carried on in Saudi Arabia until the mid 1960s.

As well as the term "Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade" we also need the term "Trans-Saharan Slave Trade". Although I realise that most of the slaves taken for Islam would've travelled via the East African Coast.

This was the most important thing I learned from this talk. New Zealand achieved Dominion Status (self-governing) in 1907.

@@kiwitrainguy Which was barely 60 years after it first existed! For NZ, that was a total disaster for our national links to the Treaty partners, and lead to the issues and situations we are having today. That is something we still are dealing with well over 100 years later. The Treaty being a hot topic right now was set in motion with the 1907 decision, and the main reason, was because India pushed for it as the main driver for it. Canada and Australia jumped on board. We did not, because we were still sorting things out for our needs, and our leaders recognised we were not ready for it. We have been behind in this kind of nation building as a result from that moment. We are always reacting to what is happening world wide, not proactively responding, because we never learned how to do that to maintain our social cohesiveness.

The Byzantine empire began and ended with an emperor Constantine

I find it interesting that the queen's reign started with Churchill and if the Queen dies in the next couple of months and if Boris survives, her last prime minister is greatly influenced by churchill. he will certainly be the queens last prime minister in his mind as he is thinks he will be prime minister way into the 30s. Unless the queen lives to 105 plus he certainly will. He probably won't last the year but he does defy the odds and expectations so who knows.

@@YorkshireScottASMR Well, we all know the answer to that one now. Boris was replaced by Liz Truss and Elizabeth has been replaced by Charles.

@Somewhatskeptical Serfs had some rights. Slaves had absolutely no rights.

@Somewhatskeptical Apologies...I dont know how I misinterpreted your point...but I did. Early night for me!!!!

@Somewhatskeptical I doubt that they wouldn't notice the change, I find that a odd notion

One thing I never heard of is the indigenous people of America being made slaves.

The country with the highest population of black people, outside of the continent of Africa, is Brazil.

United? 🤣🤣🤣

Human nature dictates that the only way you will ever get a united world is if there is some external existential threat.

Thats the dimension i dislike the most about Anglo stripes of Imperialism. Humanity isnt One and shouldnt be so.

@Somewhatskeptical Queen Victoria declared war some 250 times. The Brits weren't the Mongols, but they were busy bodies and single handedly caused Western civilization to enter terminal decline with their creation of two world wars.

@@andysamet4554 yes what were the Brits thinking of in the occupying Czechoslovakia then invading Poland and Denmark, Holland & Belgium and they should of known better than let someone shoot Franz Ferdinand so they could invade Serbia, now pass some of what your smoking to the rest of us

And as one descended from a Pictish family , I join with the descendents of Britonic families in the West of Britain in deploring the vicious imperial incursions of the Irish.

lol

You are a fool.

Not woke enough.

@Nick Morris Reminds me to open a U.S. account asap or.... cash under my mattress

@Nick Morris Maybe I will buy a tent and move into one of the tent cities that the boy Justin has helped create here in Canada - I'm told I can make about $60 collecting old beer cans each week

The majority of negative sentiment against the British empire is usually from people of the colonies like India, so what you're saying is just wrong and anecdotal arguments don't matter.

@@HidalgodeAndalucia the first paragraph I wrote was an anecdote not an argument. The second paragraph is merely my opinion. You are free to disagree but you yourself are relying on opinion as your argument 🤷 I also think you are wrong to say most opposition to colonialism is from India, I think it’s mostly from some minority groups within Western societies. Mostly the ones who cannot get ahead in those societies (so not Chinese or Indians in UK as they tend to do very well indeed).

They were made to go back home afterwards, to rebuild their shattered towns and villages which had been battlefields, the Belgium government had paid for their upkeep in Britain during the war.

@@dnstone1127 They also made a great contribution to the war effort while they were here I believe .

@@michaeldillon3113 Well they were allies, Britain had gone to war to defend Belgium, so of course they contributed, their nation was at stake.

It seems to me after the Magna Carta in the 1200's the real start of control started with the proliferation of ship building and shipping of the East India Companies and pirates and maritime law to keep peace between Countries. The laws in an individual Country was no concern to those that didn't live there. From there we have the simple saying that justice may not be fair but it is the best we got. Oh really? Parliament doesn't control the court room does it?

You should feel guilty and why did the Spanish empire did not commit atrocities like British did?

@@jeffreyrodrigoecheverria2613 + You sir, need to go back to school if what you learned was that the Spanish Empire didn't committ at least as many "attrocities," if not a great deal more, for a great deal longer than the British Empire ever did. The first nation on earth to outlaw slavery was Great Brittain, and vast amounts of blood, & treasure were expended by Brittain, to end the export of enslaved Africans into the Muslim middle east through overland East African slave trade routes, & with the help of the much smaller US Navy, the similarly sized trans-Atlantic slave trade was eventually ended by large Naval squadrons of both nations stationed continuously off the coast of West Africa, seizing any ships found transporting illicit human cargoes from Africa to the New World, regardless of which nation's flag, those ships sailed under. Anyone can learn about the American, & Brittish African squadrons, & the several decades in the mid-1800's they were continuously patrolling the Atlantic coast of sub-saharan Africa, enforcing the anti-slavery laws their governments had formally enacted, before any other nation on earth. I believe you would find it was largely the ATTROCIOUS treatment of the Cuban, & Philipine people by the last vestiges of the Spanish Empire, that brought about the military conflict with the United States of America, that eventually brought about the end of the Spanish Empire for good, {except for some tiny outposts on the Northwestern coast of Africa that Spain retains to this day}, Is it your understanding that the Spanish Empire became the greatest, & wealthiest Empire on the planet with the voluntary cooperation, & the active collaboration of the indigenous populations of North, Central, & South America? It's hard to believe anyone could ignore, deny, & downplay the untold number of atrocities the Spanish CONQUER-istadors, & the later Spanish colonial officials committed in their 3 quarters of the Western Hemispere. When leftists spin their exaggerated tales of the genocide of the indigenous People's of the Americas, it's not the French, the British, nor even the United States that didn't even exist as a independent nation until the Spanish Empire was dominating virtually all of South America, all of Central America, & a large portion of North America beginning 300 years before the US ever came into being. The institution of slavery wasn't introduced into the "deep south" of the United States by the British Empire, or the American colonists, if you really want to know the truth, Spanish Florida, that included what are now the states of Florida, Alabama, & Mississipi, & parts of Louisiana, was colonized by the military defeat, & enslavement of the remaining indigenous Native American tribes, long before the first White Anglo--Saxon Protestant ever set foot in what is now the South Eastern US. When you are asked what is the oldest continuously occupied settlement in the United States the answer isn't Quebec, New York, Boston, or even colonial Williamsburg but Saint Augustine Florida, which makes the Pilgrims who were fleeing political repression, & religious persecution in Britain, look like lazy oversleepers who came more than 100 years late to the American party. Large numbers, & entire tribes of Native Americans willingly fought to preserve the British Empire in North America during the Revolutionary War 1776 to 1783, & again in the War of 1812. Far from being powerless bands of savages being wiped out en mass in North Eastern North America, several tribes came to dominate entire regions of Canada, the Great Lakes, & North Eastern river watersheds by playing the Dutch off against the English, the French off against the British, the British off against the American colonists etc, etc, I despise black, & white generalizations about complex situations with all manor of contributing factors influencing the outcomes we now call HISTORY today. When you begin with a definitive claim, like yours, "Spanish Empire din do nothin' wrong, & British Empire din' do any good, anywhere" & you compound what is at least a disputed claim, & many experts on colonialism, & European Empires in the New World would call your overly broad, unnuanced claim ... more inaccurate, subjective speculation; than any kind of useful, mostly accurate assessment. Only a fool would compare the Dominican Republic, the former Spanish colony that sits on roughly 50% of the Island of Hispaniola today, & Haiti, the former Frech colony, that sits on the other 50% of that very same island, & say, "look Spanish colonialism, & Spanish Empire must have been better than French colonialism, & the French Empire," because there are 100, & 1 factors that contributed to the shocking differences between 2 former colonies, that now share the same island as independent nations. Would you rather live in Canada, where the Queen of England still graces their coins, & currency, or Venezuela today, since Venezuela was the wealthiest nation in all of Latin America only 15, 20 years ago, before Socialism made all that wealth, based on natural resources like oil, simply disappear so rapidly, it's still hard to grasp. Even I couldn't honestly argue that the US, & Canada would be the world's leading economies, with the enshrined freedoms, & liberties it's citizens enjoy with governments the people choose through free, & fair elections every few years if all of North America had been colonized exclusively on behalf of,the Kings, & Queens of Spain, who were acting in the name of the Roman Catholic church, in turn. Simply comparing the outcomes in former British colonies that were proudly parts of the British Empire, some more recently than others; & the former colonies that made up the Spanish Empire. I live in California, & have lived here for more than 50 years, would that single state I call home, have become the 4th, or 5th largest economy in the entire world that we see today, if Alto California had remained a Spanish colony, & then become just another state in greater, independent Mexico? No one would honestly make that claim with a straight face, would you, with your limited knowledge of history, even bother to attempt what seems like an impossible intellectual feat? There are 1,000's of factors that made California a great place to live, with a highly productive economy, based on a wide variety of very different industries from agriculture, to high tech innovation, & the entertainment capital of the world, to traditional raw materials development, from industrial production to a university system that attracts students, faculty, & research grants from around the world. Even I can tell the quality of life for the average Californian is nothing like what it was even 20 years ago, & corrupt single party Democrat rule has made this state bleed talented, go getters by the millions, not the magnetic place that attracted those same people from all over the US, & the world not that long ago. We may not be eating our pets yet, experiencing a man made famine, & suffering the complete economic collapse that has forced millions of Venezuelans to flee a much smaller population, but you can't argue that San Francisco was one of the world's top tourist destinations, with some of the most valuable real estate on earth no more than a decade, or 2 back, but "The City" by the bay, home if the "Golden Gate" has degenerated into such a dystopian, dangerous 3rd world hell hole I wouldn't invite my worst enemy to visit ... even for if just for a weekend, in the best of weather ... it's been at least 5 years since I decided it was better to avoid the armies of homeless drug addicted zombies shuffling through once attractive, pristine avenues, famous locals, & buzy high end shopping districts that made San Francisco the #1 destination for national conventions in the whole country, not that long ago. There were scores of medical, high tech, & industrial innovation gatherings taking up nearly every available hotel room, & spaces to house 100's of vendors displaying the latest, & greatest new products from around the world ... for most of the year, each, & every year going back 30, 40 years at least. Today, in 2022 ... good luck trying to book a convention of used car salesmen, time share pimps, or biker gangs to come to the always available Moscone Convention Center, in downtown San Francisco, right next to the Museum of Modern Art, & a bustling 24 hour, open air market featuring deadly, illicit street drugs that kill an average of 2, or 3 people nobody cares about, every single day of the year ... Those Biker gangs, the American Waste Disposal Association, & the International Tattoo Convention will pass on coming to SF without even saying, "Thanks! ... but no FRICKIN' thanks, ALOT! ... & don't bother calling here, ever again." Because I don't view complex situations in childishly simplistic terms I can argue that the Spanish Empire was a much better force for progress, & freedom compared to the brutally repressive, rapacious, & bloodthirsty Aztec Empire, but I can also conduct an entire debate from the point of view of Spain's indigenous allies, whose armed warriors in their 1,000's made Cortez's victory possible, as opposed to the Cortez expedition being described as a disastrous mistake, lead by a misguided lunatic who grossly underestimated the military strength of the mighty Aztec Empre, & Cortez would be forever known as the General Custer, {infamous for leading the US 7th Calvary to it's doom at the battle of the "Little Bighorn"}

@@kellyowens1868 1) "The first nation on earth to outlaw slavery was Great Brittain, and vast amounts of blood, & treasure were expended by Brittain," Not because of their kindness of their heart but because of they did not need anymore black slaves due to the industrial revolution. The greatness of Spain (way better than satanic England) was they did not need to outlaw because because de facto did not last that long. Spain made sure that the slaves became Hispanic Christians and their decadents would be loyal subject to the crown in Madrid. This the reason why we have no concept of race unlike the vile Anglos. 2) Anyone can learn about the American, & Brittish African squadrons, & the several decades in the mid-1800's they were continuously patrolling the Atlantic coast of sub-saharan Africa, enforcing the anti-slavery laws their governments had formally enacted, before any other nation on earth. I believe you would find it was largely the ATTROCIOUS treatment of the Cuban, & Philipine people by the last vestiges of the Spanish Empire, that brought about the military conflict with the United States of America, that eventually brought about the end of the Spanish Empire for good, {except for some tiny outposts on the Northwestern coast of Africa that Spain retains to this day}, Is it your understanding that the Spanish Empire became the greatest, & wealthiest Empire on the planet with the voluntary cooperation, & the active collaboration of the indigenous populations of North, Central, & South America?" providence

@@jeffreyrodrigoecheverria2613 + "No concept of race" ... did you say? Are you speaking of Spain, or it's former colonies in Latin America. Those folks in the Azores, are they considered just as Spanish as the Castillians, or how about the basque minority in Northern Spain? I'm not sure if they consider themselves Spanish even, hence all those bombings back in the 1970's & 80's. Now the word "Indio" in Spanish ... if there is no concept of race in your culture ... why is that SPANISH word used as such a negative slur, a pejorative insult, & one of the most offensive things a Spanish speaker can call another Spanish speaker, that doesn't include foul language, a reference to sexual organs, or someone's sexual preference. "This is the reason why ... WE HAVE NO CONCEPT OF RACE ..." "... UNLIKE THE VILE ANGLOS." Which, I must say ... is one of the single most RACIST phrases I've seen on this, or any other platform ... from anyone, of any race, or ethnic group, in quite some time ... I assure you ... & I'm probably twice your age, & I've been around the block more times than the ice cream truck ... as we say in Estados Unidos, or El Norte. Is an "Anglo" the same as "Wero," or is "Anglo" just what RACIST Spanish speakers say when referring to white people from Englatera? The Mexicanos, & Salvadorenos I hang with don't use "Anglo" when we're talking about white people. Now the word Negro means black, like the "Ace of Spades," but what do you call black people, if you don't see them as a different race? ... Amigo maybe? or it is better to just be more informal, & just call all the Black dudes you see "Papa" ... or if you're from Puerto Rico, they use "Poppy" instead for guys that are Afro-Cubano. I love the part where you say ... "Spain made sure the SLAVES became Hispanic Christians ... blah, blah, blah." as if it was OK to work them to death, as long as their Spanish masters got them baptized at some point before the poor indios took their last breath ... YIKES! I mean it was bad enough that the illiterate swine herders that came over to the New World in the last few years of the 1400's, & the first half of the 1500's actually justified their brutal abuse of the innocent Indios they enslaved, & proceeded to work to death within a year, or two ... if they even made it past the first 6 months, it was considered a miraculous event, & some of the early Spanish land holders actually notified the Pope in Rome that they may indeed be on their way to sainthood, if one, or 2 of their other indios they owned could make it through a full 12 months as captive slaves, since they would then have 2, or 3 holy miracles associated with their pious lives on earth, but sadly none of the early Spanish land holders could ever manage to NOT work, or beat their slaves to death within the first year, or 18 months ... tops! The Tiaino that Columbus made contact with on his first voyage to the New World had all been ... shot to death by a Spaniard, stabbed to death with a sword, or swords by 1, or more Spaniards, worked to death by a Spanish slave driver, or mauled to death by 1, or more war dogs, while obeying the dirrect commands of 1, or more Spaniards, or starved to death by their Spanish slave owner, for refusing to work themselves to death, in fact only there were only 6 out of an estimated total population of nearly 15,000 Tiaino tribe members, who did not die directly, or indirectly {starved to death by their Spanish slave owner, or ripped to pieces by 1, or more Spanish war dogs, on the order{s} of 1, or more Spaniard{s}. Original documents written in either late 1492 or mid 1493, at the latest, recorded that those 6 Tiaino who did NOT die directly, or indirectly at the hands of a Spaniard were all females, & coincidentally every 1 of those 6 native women had taken their own lives, in a variety of gruesome methods. It seems each of those lucky surviving Tiaino females, between the ages estimated to be 13, or 14, & the oldest estimated to be in her late 20's, or early 30's, & all 6 of those gruesome female suicides took place once the young girl, or woman realized she had been raped by 1, or more Spaniards ... which is totally understandable, under any circumstances even if you are last known surviving Tiaino tribe member, apparently. After rather reluctantly being compromised into sexual relations with 4 soldiers, 3 common sailors, 2 cabin boys, & the assistant cook assigned to the compliment of Her Royal Magesty, Queen Isabella of Espana`s Caravelle Santa Maria, the last reported sighting of a Tiano Indio, was the sole surviving female, who was said to have calmly walked into a shallow lagoon, no more than 1 fathom in depth, in it's deepest recesses, at high tide, where between 100, & 200 reef sharks, each measuring roughly 6 feet from the tip of their tooth laden snout, to the tip of the tail fin, were already observed in the midst of the most violent feeding frenzy, as the Indian maid slowly strode into the shark frothed waters of an isolated tidal inlet, named from thence onwards as Senora Senator Elizabth Warren of the Massachusetts Colony Cove, & today, over 500 years later, any nautical chart, or large scale map of the Island of Hispanola still bares the name of that defiant Tiaino Indian girl, last of her kind. This was just the first of scores, if not 100's of individual genocides, or tribal extinctions to occur in lands claimed for the Spanish Crown, between the year 1493, & the defeat of the Spanish Naval forces, by a small US Naval contingent under the command of Admiral Perry, in the Battle of Mannilla Bay, in the Philipine archipelago, that thankfully brought the horror show that was the blood soaked theft of riches from defenseless indigenous peoples the world over, known for nearly 3, & 1/2 regrettable, repressive, & rapacious centuries ... as the Spanish Empire. All sources can be found, & verified in footnotes located in the pinned comment, at the head of this comment section. Muchos Gracias for reading thus far, ......... & ......... KOut

@@kellyowens1868 "+ "No concept of race" ... did you say? Are you speaking of Spain, or it's former colonies in Latin America. Those folks in the Azores, are they considered just as Spanish as the Castillians, or how about the basque minority in Northern Spain? I'm not sure if they consider themselves Spanish even, hence all those bombings back in the 1970's & 80's. Now the word "Indio" in Spanish ... if there is no concept of race in your culture ... why is that SPANISH word used as such a negative slur, a pejorative insult, & one of the most offensive things a Spanish speaker can call another Spanish speaker, that doesn't include foul language, a reference to sexual organs, or someone's sexual preference. "This is the reason why ... WE HAVE NO CONCEPT OF RACE ..."" Those are races? Those are ethnic groups you just mentioned, the Basque (like myself) identify as ethnic group because of common language and religion. "Indio" was an insult of behavior, nothing to do with race. Most "Indios" are fully Hispanized and barely used any more. "Which, I must say ... is one of the single most RACIST phrases I've seen on this, or any other platform ... from anyone, of any race, or ethnic group, in quite some time ... I assure you ... & I'm probably twice your age, & I've been around the block more times than the ice cream truck ... as we say in Estados Unidos, or El Norte. Is an "Anglo" the same as "Wero," or is "Anglo" just what RACIST Spanish speakers say when referring to white people from Englatera? The Mexicanos, & Salvadorenos I hang with don't use "Anglo" when we're talking about white people. Now the word Negro means black, like the "Ace of Spades," but what do you call black people, if you don't see them as a different race? ... Amigo maybe? or it is better to just be more informal, & just call all the Black dudes you see "Papa" ... or if you're from Puerto Rico, they use "Poppy" instead for guys that are Afro-Cubano." Anglos are not a race, their ethnic group that became "white" when the Protestant reformation came along. Second, I am happy you said "white" means "Anglo," so we cut crap out that white mean European, when it always mean the "White Anglo-Saxon Protestant" who gave us liberalism, which you so much dislike. Fun fact, all the crimes you mention are first fabricated by Bartolomé de las Casas remotely