Hey everyone! Hope you enjoyed the video because this had to be reuploaded. there was a copyright strike but here's a slightly updated version of the previous video! #fivenightsatfreddys #fnaf #securitybreach
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You have no idea how cathartic this video was for me. To know that there's someone else out there who gets it. Who understands the love/hate dynamic I have with this franchise. Someone who doesn't pretend that the lore and story isn't anything other than a barely coherent and terribly written mess at this point. I love FNAF but I threw away the rose-tinted glasses I had for it years ago.
Agreed. A good series needs to know when to stop. It's why these days, I admire storytellers who refuse to make a sequel. Not those who abandon a series, those who refuse to make a sequel.
@@BlueTyphoon2017no buddy it's everything the whole story is incoherent babble that's being held together by theories to the point that character motivation is literally up to debate. Scott is just a hack and this fandom is too childish to see it
I feel like with scott semi-retiring, it should just be one of those unspoken rule things that everything after 6/custom night is basically only canon if you like it.
I really don't like how they made the robots more human in security breach, it just gets rid of all the fear of the robots and honestly makes me feel more bad for them when they inevitably destroy them
I feel like it's weird that with Ruin, we seem to have abandoned all the spirits and haunting, and now we've just got sci-fi. At that point it probably should have branched to a new series.
@@ender01o66 What do you mean it's based off the FNaF 3 minigames? Also William seemingly ISN'T dead, along with whatever the Blob is, so Henry's plan failed, which ruins the previous "story".
I agree with every point of this video. FNAF started off displaying such a mastery of simple, effective and atmospheric horror that slowly devolved into a confusing, tangled, watered down mess. I truly wish things stayed the way it could in the beginning... But I think the only way that could have happened was to end the series sooner. However, I am so glad that I witnessed this series in it's hay-day, because this series also got me into horror media and ignited my love for creating characters and stories. Fnaf will always have a place in my heart, despite the disappointing turn it took in its later years.
FNAF used to scare the sh*t outta me when I was younger, I never understood any lore, but yet somehow I still have that nostalgia love for it lmao (I'm not gonna reveal my age now since that'll be a totally stupid idea, especially since I'm on the internet.)
People say 4 is where the series fell off story wise, but for me it was sister location that did it. A walking corpse with MULTIPLE animatronics inside it? GF plush (possibly) being a walkie talkie instead of a possessed doll? Who the hell is ballora and the minireenas/bidybabs? It just went too sci fi for me lol
@@Al3xthefrog i also think it was the downfall of the series itself because sister location for me wasn't even that scary compared to the previous games and lead the series to be more kid friendly and that is the position that fnaf is in right now
#4 could be accepted. It's basically useless. The story was over at #3. But 4 doesn't wreck the lore. Sister Location? As far as I can tell, you can follow the entire story without ever once acknowledging that it exists. If I leave Micheal and that game out entirely, nothing about William's story really changes. And the game is really his story, isn't it? He's the only consistent character. I need, like, two lines of lore about Baby to complete the story of the Afton family; that's all I need from Sister Location... maybe? I hear Baby makes a good manipulative villain, but if I want that, I'll go play Portal and hang out with GLaDOS. (Who really DOES need another game. C'mon, Valve!)
@@grathem9789I really like Fnaf Sl game play wise. It always has something new to do and is diferent from the repetitive game play of the others(I like the other games despite the repetitive gameplay btw), I think the animatronics in fnaf Sl look terrifying when their faces open. And the jumpscares where they open their face always gets me(The ones in that night with a gameplay like the other night I have to say the jumpscares are trashy.) It is my favorite game, from the designs(I love the animatronic designs) to the diferent gameplay. But I can't lie, it made fnaf lore ridiculous and all over the place, And I just can't get my mind around the fact that all that high tech looking animatronics are from the 80's, how the hell does Funtime Foxy has motion capture feauture in the 80's? And then to make everything worse... The ending, oh Lord the ending. How the hell did parts of 4 animatronics assembled inside a dude and then dude vomited them while already a corpse and for some reason, he has the hability to stay alive and then Baby separated from the others, became Baby again but all weird and the other 3 made a weird freddy and appeared in fnaf 6?
As I said on the first video I agree 100%. I found this series fascinating at the start. But as the Lore (phone what the heck) got more and more complicated I started falling out of it. I mostly followed it via Game Theory but found the fan content pretty cool. Loving the video!
Honestly, I really hate the books and all the stupid sci-fi concepts that make story unnecessarily complicated. It just used to be facial recognition tech in the 80s and ghosts haunting animatronics, but now there’s human androids and illusion disks to excuse bad planning with nonsense retcons
I wholeheartedly agree with ya on that it was just unnecessary at that point if you’re gonna do that advanced sci-fi killer machine terminator concept pls plan it out carefully like for example i would have been ok with sister location if it didn’t have this remnant drug like experiments and made the timeline years after fnaf 3 cuz at least that would make more sense with how beyond advanced they are
I'll never understand why they UNDID the fact that William is finally dead. That and, the possibility of Charlie, Elizabeth and all the other souls possessing Molten Freddy/Ennard being alive too, and now being the Blob. Like come on. It's like that whole game was nothing. Next thing you know, Micheal Afton is back, too. LET ME BOY REST!
I've heard people theorize that Midnight Motorist might take place after Crying Child's death, with the child missing from the house being Michael and the person watching TV being Mrs. Afton. It would at the very least make the motivations for the missing Afton child more obvious if it was Michael wrecked with grief rather than Crying Child, and would give William more motivation as to why he might be kicked out of a bar... As for the bite, I always did think it was weird that everyone latched onto 1983 immediately. I was a 90's kid and they replayed episodes of 80's cartoons in the early 90's all the time! Heck, channels had reruns of I Love Lucy, Twilight Zone, Little House on the Prairie, and Mr. Ed and everything in between! There's no evidence that the original intention was that THAT was the year it took place in. It could've originally been meant to signify that the bite happened in 1983 at the EARLIEST, but could've easily happened later. But alas, whatever the original intention was, it is what it is now...
One cool thing that one of the FNAF VHS tapes implied was that William hated or at least disliked Michael. A lot (some theorising that the Dracula tv show is supposed to be William arguing with Mrs Afton about whether Michael is actually is his son). But he adored Evan and Elizabeth. So when Evan died not too long after Elizabeth, he was particularly aggressive towards Michael. So Michael would run away frequently to avoid his father. In the meantime, William is incredibly jealous of Henry since he still has his children. Then he kills other children to take out his frustration on Michael without hurting him.
I still remember when people would obsess over the name of the night guard in FNAF 1 & 2 but now I never hear about them. I’ve tried looking it up but nothing pops up.
FNaF 1: Mike Schmidt FNaF 2: Jeremy Fitzgerald FNaF 3: No idea, it's an unnamed schmuck (probably Michael or something) FNaF 4: Michael's little brother (No idea, people say that his name is Evan apparently?) FNaF SL: Unnamed, probably Michael FNaF Pizza sim: Michael (This guy's got some real balls of steel for taking the job everytime just to get jumpscared). That's about it.
I went to resume watching this after I had to pause 20 minutes in because my wife wanted to watch your kirby videos to find it was gone! Glad to see you re-uploaded it and hopefully the copyright strike gets resolved quickly as I hear they can be a pain in the ass. Keep up the great work and keep your mental health in a good place while you do so!
FNAF suffers from conditioning its fanbase to overanalyze every last detail, conditioning itself to be vague and confusing at the best of times, and having been written by someone who genuinely seems to suck at making sure information he wants to convey reaches his audience while also being ready to retcon the whole franchise every other game
Security Breach should be made noncanon. As a matter of fact, same with Help Wanted. Vanessa should be evil because she was inspired by Afton or something like that, not because of some dumb Glitch bs. Also agree, FNaF 1-3 were the Golden Age, the good old days (4 was crap, SL was bad & FFPS was mid with a great ending).
Fnaf 1-3 genuinely worked due to its simplicity despite all the cryptic ways. Where’s basically just a tragic story about 5 kids being stuffed in animatronics that never let go of the person who did it. Which I called the Missing Children incident arc. 4-6 tried to bring more light by giving William afton and his family more depth but got pretty confusing and sci-fi (especially when the books come into play) even if everything wrapped in a great sendoff until security breach fucked it all up.
@@ender01o66 Which is why they said SHOULD. As in: rewritten to be the main villain of Security Breach without Afton in her brain. She should've been a copycat killer.
Man I miss when FNAF was just a story that could have ended after game 6, when everything was actual horror and with a genuinely interesting plot. My favorite part about this series is the FNAF 6 ending, it just felt so poetic and beautiful. That it angers me when the story just keeps going progressively getting more and more stupid and nonsense. Making the FNAF 6 ending feel less impacting because with every game they try to "close" the story but instead leaving more plot holes each game, where FNAF 6 already did that and it didn't need more than just that. It brought a closure to the games that could have been left as the true ending to five nights at Freddy's.
Okay thanks. I couldn't tell what game he was talking about in the video when he said Fnaf 6 either since there is no game that goes by that title I could find. I have fallen out of the FNAF loop ever since the fourth game and Sister Location. The new game Security Breech looks good in that it has actual gameplay, ironically enough it lost the horror elements that made the game unique to begin with. The 80's rocker look just isn't scary to me. I like the 80's aesthetic though, and the way the place resembles a mall.
Provided you have the passion for it, I think you ought too try your hand at breaking down the broken lore of other games and media as a whole, you do a fantastic job of explaining things clearly while keeping me personally invested and sitting through the whole thing. Plus discussing broken lore and not pretending that it all somehow fits together is a niche I haven’t really seen a channel commit too.
I still love all the games up to FNaF UCN, but if people like the next games, that’s okay. If people like Dawko and Astralspiff can find enjoyment in them, more power to them.
The FNaF 4 Nightmare Theory kinda wraps up the FNaF lore for me. Scott feared it would leave the fandom unsatisfied, but for me it's more satisfying than whatever happened after FNaF 4.
I feel like the story took a turn for the worse at FNaF 3, albeit it's still understandable, and then it slammed into a concrete wall in FNaF Help Wanted.
imo the issue with fnaf is the need to explain things that are scarier without explanation. the most egregious example of this is remnant. i cannot stress enough how much we did not need to know about this. it GREATLY added to the fear factor of not knowing how these children possessed the suits and had this paranormal vibe to it, as it should. giving it a scientific explanation just kills that completely. fnaf originally did such a good job using the fear of the unknown. who's the purple guy, what's with the weird shadows, why are these robots moving, what's the deal with golden freddy, etc. it stayed vague while also giving us just enough to keep us guessing. but modern fnaf has this need to explain literally every detail while just losing itself in its own confusion.
This series will always be a mixed bag for me. The story is incomprehensible, the gameplay in Security Breach is underdeveloped, and the presentation is of a higher budget but not enough time going into it. It's not scary anymore. Unfortunately, it is this way. But, always here for the fanworks that do better. Weird how it's like that nowadays.
I would say Sister Location is THE point where the Lore started degrading. We had the first Trilogy, where the story was about the murder of 5 children, who murdered those children, what happened to the murderer And how the pizzeria burned down afterwards, setting the souls free and ending the story. Then we had FNAF 4, it being a somewhat prequel to FNAF where we learned about "the Bite of 87" and how it happened (until Scott retconned it). Then SL came and turned what was once a horror story about paranormal activities at a pizzeria, into a Sci-fi puzzle game with way too many plot holes to be saved. Then Steelwool came along and we know the rest.
Finally, I found someone who shares my views on FNAF's lore. This game has gone through so many twist's and turn's and so many unexplainable plot holes, to the point it no longer makes sense! Like, who the hell is Cassidy and why is she so important to the lore all of a sudden? Why is she so "vengeful" and "hateful" towards William. WHAT did he exactly *do* to her to deserve it?
Cassidy has been here since FNaF 1 FNaF 1-3 is the Cassidy trilogy after FNaF 3 Cassidy is put on the backburner until Security Breach and she's not vengeful towards William, he's just another victim of who Cassidy is vengeful against I really hate when people create fan fiction and claim it's the FNaF story and explain why their fan fiction is bad so the actual story must be bad too
@@ender01o66 I really hate it when people act like their interpretation of events is the Canon version of the story. Especially with such a blatant lie. The name Cassidy has NEVER been mentioned prior to FNAF 6 and UCN. In fact, the name wasn't even mentioned in the ACTUAL games! It was a secret from a crossword in a fucking children's activity book! The lore is so inconsistent that UCN and the subsequent games can't even agree what sex/gender Cassidy is. How on earth can you say that Cassidy was anyway important in the original trilogy? More importantly than Charlie, Evan, or Michael? The first being established since FNAF 2? This is more their story than Cassidy. At least we knew they existed without having to complete and decipher activity books.
@@grandempressvicky6387 we didn't know Cassidy's name since the beginning, that wasn't my point. you r/whoooshed yourself, but it's not even funny :/ Yellowbear has been around since the beginning, even if we didn't know their human name. I don't see how the robot human Charlie is important to the original games? she was first introduced in the spin-off novels in a separate timeline, not in FNaF 2 Evan is a fanmade Gacha Life character, along with Chris Afton :/ and we didn't even learn much about Michael until after the Cassidy trilogy so please, do some research before spreading blatant misinformation
@@ender01o66 Charlie was more important even before we knew her name because she is the one who made the events of FNAF 1 and 2 happen by saving the children by putting them in the animatronics. She was always trying to stop William, which is more than what nobody Cassidy has done. Cassidy literally came out of nowhere and is made important on the basis of what? That she was one of FOURTEEN kids that were killed? It's really embarrassing that you use Golden Freddy as "proof" of Cassidy being important when 1) the only soul people cared about in GF was Crying Child before the Game Theory episode and 2) Golden Freddy had done fuck all in the series as an independent actor. At most he accidentally killed Crying Child, was the way Aftom tried to control his son, and happened to be the animatronic that Cassidy ended up in. She could've ended up in Freddy, Bonnie or Chica and NOTHING would change or make her/him more important. Golden Freddy was an Easter egg. Even when he was lore important, the phrase "It's Me" has NOTHING to do with Cassidy but with Crying Child trying to communicate with his brother. Cassidy is only relevant in UCN because Scott, for whatever reason, wanted to focus on her/him and STILL didn't do it properly. We know nothing about Cassidy other than the fact that she/he was murdered. Like I said, we don't even know what their sex is! So to have the audacity to claim that the original trilogy is CASSIDY'S arc and not Henry's, or Michael's, or Crying Child's, or Charlie's, or even William Afton's is absurd.
@@ender01o66 Omg did you even watch this video? Have you ever watched a Matpat theory or been in a FNAF space? When did I even mention robot Charlie? I meant the little girl who was the one to be killed even before Suzie. You know, the first crying child before FNAF4? The puppet? If you knew anything about this fandom is that Scott explicitly said that while the books are a separate universe, the fans and theorists are encouraged to make use of them to explain events in the game. That's WHY he created them, dumbass. The games give him very limited scope in divulging lore so he used the books to substitute. Literally everyone but you knows that at this point. So while robot Charlie is not cannon to the games, the character Charlie is.
this might be a hot take, but, to keep my sanity in-tact, i consider the first 4 games to be part of the "main story/timeline" (4 games, 1 story, right?), then sister location through custom night as an "extended story/timeline", and everything after that as a star wars legends type thing. this just makes everything more simple to me, and keeps the magic of the original 4 games' story alive, in my opinion. again, it might be a hot take, but hey. headcanons be headcanons, and i'd like to keep my sanity 😅
Fyi this narrative is very good but it missing some keyplots and factual infos (which is necessary, they're "cannon" and will make clear some of the hazy mess it alr is). I will cover knots from 1-6 (I'm not informed enough what happen in after with the viruses) 1.Why William is Orange. This is a direct reference to FNAF World hint as "don't confuse me with the other purple guy, I just made to be purple for easy to see". That's mean William not actually purple skinned BUT Mike is due to Ennerd messed with his body 2. What was the car minigame implied. For this we need to look in the survival guide book and found out Evan used to love his dad works and his favorite thing there was the rollercoaster, implying fnaf2's location, and since he ran to the direction of "the bar" we can assume that's the place. TL;DR, The "new and improved" toy location isn't super brandnew, maybe just the animatronics got the rework are, not the location itself. 3.The bite of 83 and 87 and the recon. This pissed me off too but Evan can't be bitten at 87, because 87's location (pressume fnaf2's location) isn't matched with Evan's location (Fredbear Family Diner). I think Scott either jebaited people and not actually recon or he realizes a big ass plothole if he keep the promo lore in. 4. The relevancy of the yellow bear. It's outright confirm he has 2 souls via the princess quest game (not that the survival guide book alr make it complicated enough). Anyways love ur content, idk why you put urself through to make this vid but love it anyway. *Cough* pls Kirby extra now-is-canon-lore next pls *cough*
Aw man! It sucks that your video got striked. It always sucks when something you put a lot of work into just gets striked like that. Anyways I love this video! You did a good job and I agree with most of the stuff you say in it. Love your videos!
I pretty much agree... As someone who was a fan when they were a kid, FNaF's "story" has become so convoluted that I honestly want it to end, especially since the Ruin DLC seems to only exist to further confuse things by adding a virtual augmented reality that isn't even explained how it works, and elements from the Pizzaplex books, making the books canon. I genuinely do not care about the lore of this franchise anymore because I'm confident that *_nobody_* can make a timeline without getting *_something wrong,_* and we don't even know if what's canon right now will stay canon by tomorrow. It's gotten so out of hand that I wouldn't be surprised if you told me that in a future installment, Freddy resets the entire multiverse by touching a tipped over trash bin... Every story has to have an end in sight, and damn it, Scott could've left it at Pizza Sim, but since he didn't, I *_do not_* see an end for this series. At this point, a story isn't even being told anymore.
I especially hate how Sister Location, the 1983 TV detail, and the books massacred FNAF 4. The idea of a child having traumatic nightmares is way better, in my opinion, than a father doing an experiment on his son. And apparently, you don't even play as the Crying Child in FNAF 4... You play as Michael. I seriously hate how the Michael got forced as the protagonist for a game that used to be intended for someone else. The CC literally got robbed out of his OWN GAME. It also sucks that the bite of 87 pretty much became irrelevant to the FNAF Lore. I remember back in the old day how important the Bite of 87 was in the story, now it's just there to exist pretty much. FNAF 4 would in my opinion be a great end for the franchise and idk why Scott suddenly decided to extend it more.
I just wanted to point out that even in fnaf 1-3 the bite wasn't important at all. It was just a throwaway line to give more life to the setting. But people clung to it like beggars do to cash and now we're in this mess.
@@funninoriginal6054I mean it was a mystery back then and it could have had something connected to the missing children incidents or the identity of the killer nobody knew back then for all we knew it could have been the most important detail in the story
Orange guy in the "later that night" minigame is not William Afton. I see this missunderstood everywhere. The "later that night" minigame refers to the night of the missing children incident and we are watching an aftermath of one of the kidnapping victims. Orange guy is his abusive father who is coming home drunk, JRs is a restaurant/bar where green guy (bouncer) wont allow orange guy to enter (as he is already drunk). When he comes home (which is obviously not a fnaf4 house) we find a broken window and a set of footprints. This scenario directly matches one of the high shcool chica cutscenes which describe individual methods how William kidnapped the kids. Some people might argue that William would die in the suit because its raining. We see only an aftermath, it wasnt raining when he kidnapped the kid.
That would directly contradict with the fact that the dissapearances/murders were explicitally stated to happen _inside_ the restaurant. I don't see how a guy dressed as a yellow rabbit breaking inside a house to kidnap a child would make sense at all.
The animatronics should NEVER have started speaking. Completely removes the fear factor, and it makes the games Sister Location automatically inferior to the first few games, and that’s not even one of the top 10 things that ruined Post-2015 FNaF.
at this point i just don’t accept it as canon. i’ve seen so many good shows and games go down horrible paths that i pretend it never happened bc it pisses me off so much, especially when a simple fix could’ve made everything perfect.
I just found the whole 87-83 thing to be wildly confusing because if Fredbear's Family Diner existed in 1987 and the bite happened there, then wtf goes on in FNAF 2? Phone guy in that game hardly seems to know anything about Fredbear's, having to go out of his way to look into it. It's dead by FNAF 2. And FNAF 2 takes place in 1987. It just doesn't add up
One thing that doesn't make sense to me is that fnaf sl happend beetwen 83 and 87. Like, just look at the animatronics, William Afton really went to the future and came back to make this advenced animatronics with motion capture and etc.
@@5kidsInMyBasement Not to mention, this weird ass technological leap becomes even more apparent when the most advanced animatronics after the funtimes were... The toys. Which only had facial recognition. It makes more sense when you consider Scott made SL as a response to people saying fnaf was "too samey" and that he's made a lot of Sci-fi games before fnaf, but lore wise it dosen't make any sense at all.
Since it was never stated what year fnaf 4 was in I like to think originally the fnaf 4 and 2 locations coexisted with each other in the same year that being 1987 as for why nobody mentions the bite in fnaf 2 very simple it either hasn’t happened yet or nobody got the news of what happened at the other location yet
Scott explained years ago that William isn't literally purple, purple is the colour of corruption, and represents William slowly getting corrupted until he becomes possessed by Glitchtrap hence the obvious white eyes of possession while Mike is kinda literally purple, corpses aren't actually purple, but yea, he looks like a corpse
agree, f$ck security breach and help wanted so much. those games will never be canon to me, i will never make a timeline video featuring those sh$t stains for as long as i live
This is what happens when companies get greedy and start milking franchises until there's literally nothing left but repeating the same stories over and over again.
17:16 Okay, I'm not sure if anyone has ever said this but this needs be said. It's not like Scott planned this to be The Bite of '83 and was just trolling everyone. What's most likely happened was that when FNAF4 was released, it originally WAS The Bite of '87 that we saw and it was supposed be a big shocker because nobody would've suspected Fredbear did it. However, when you really think about this, Fredbear having caused The Bite of '87 makes zero goddamn sense, and this was an oversight by Scott that he would later realize was a major oversight. For one, what's shown in the bite minigame doesn't match up with what's said or implied about the Bite of '87 in previous games. The phone guy heavily implies that the bite was at least in part due to the animatronics' ability to walk around, Fredbear was on stage when the bite happened. He also very heavily implies that the bite involved someone's frontal lobe being removed, the Crying Child entire f**king head was crushed during the event. FNAF2 takes place during 1987 and it's heavily implied that the bite took place there when we see the paper showing Freddy's is closing due to animatronic malfunctions. Finally, we know that Fredbear's is no longer a thing by the time of 1987 since FNAF2 takes place during that year and it's mentioned that Fredbear's closed down. I think Scott Cawthon realized the problems with Fredbear being the culprit and so retconned the whole into thing into being "The Bite of '83", a never-before-mentioned event.
4:01 Mat slowly realising he created a monster, a *blob* if you will, Scott directly reference Mat in the past, implying MatPat is atleast partly responsible for Fnaf future development, HE created this mess with Scott and now he's shocked that "wait, this stuff thrown to the wall can't just be ... Random, right? It MUST make sense, Scott wouldn't lie to us, there MUST be some grand mystery!1!!1!" Fitting for MatPat to be stuck in his personal hell
see i love this series, but more in a way of it was once a comfort item that is now a sandbag tied to me and i am doomed to sink further into the depths of whatever happens to it whether i like it or not through sheer morbid curiosity of how far it'll fall
58:23 I have to disagree, bigger can absolutely mean better, however, bigger also means more complexity, meaning it will be harder to make everything fit. The more you add, the harder the story is to write.
I honestly don't know why so many people believed Michael Afton was the crying child years ago. If Scott Cawthon was going to make a story about a dysfunctional family, would he introduce an older brother that does nothing but torment (supposed) Michael Afton and then is never seen again? No, he would obviously want to something with him. It's obvious that Michael is he older brother. In Sister Location, Michael says how he was confused with his father. I don't know about you, but it's more likely that an older child would look more like their parent since they're closer to their age.
I am SO glad more and more RU-vidrs are calling out the absolute bull that is the recent FNAF "lore". It was questionable with FNAF3, made little sense with FNAF4, the last chance of salvaging it was dream theory, buuuut no such luck. By SL release it was just an ass pull after an ass pull.
Based void soul kirby Also I like the fact there's a dark matter-esque sprite for when tspro gets mad, anyways yeah fnaf really did go downhill which is a shame From something relatively simple and coherent to nothing but gobbledygook nonsense where everyone involved is probably a secret robot or some bs
The more Fnaf content, the more of an OG fan I become. Pretty much just the first four games though. I have a hard time with a lot of the stuff they added in sister location and the sci fi themes. I much preferred when the animatronics were just haunted rather than being infused with special metal that keeps their spirits alive. Also I HATE that William Afton is still alive due to remnant. I assumed he died and haunted the suit and I hate that they gave it a different explanation.
Personally I think UCN should have been the End of the "Purple Guy Era" of the lore, Maybe security breach has A little of william afton Maybe as One Last Stand on william's end (Maybe by attaching whats left of his soul to vanny or somethin and having the final battle be ACTUALLY GOOD) but Actually end william then and there.
17:53 I'm glad I'm mot the only one who thinks Scott retconned bite of 87 into 83, literally why would teasers tease 87 all over just for 87 to never appear? Even if we assume it was all a lie and Scott always planned it to be 83, it still makes no sense. Why previous games, specifically FNAF 1 tease it so much? Why is there Easter egg where if you put AI difficulty to 1 for Freddy 9 for bonnie 8 for Chika and 7 for Foxxy you get jumpscared by GOLDEN Freddy. He literally planned it, the ONLY thing Scott planned and almost finally succeeded in making, only for him to retcon it because "fans won't like that all 4 games support dream theory and it was my plan 😢"
@@ChimeratAlphaI mean it was a 8bit minigame so nothing is going to be exactly like reality its supposed to be symbolic for example the give cake minigame when you look at it it’s just a grey box that a Freddy and kids are in does that mean this so called old freddys location was just a tiny grey hut no it doesn’t cuz that wouldn’t make sense like I said it’s supposed to be symbolic unfortunately Scott must have forgotten that thus causing the infamous moronic bite of 83
@@res2674 the only proof that it was 83 is the tv which doesn’t make sense cuz if I watched 1930 cartoons does that make the year 1930 no it’s still 2023 it’s most likely that was originally the date of the fazbear show not the current year the kid dies in
@@res2674 Really? The 1987 to 1983 source code change on the website was before July 30th? That in game screen easily can just show that the TV show started that year, not that it's the current year.
@@res2674 it was probably a typo but since fans went so apescat over it he just had to agree with them instead of saying no we all know how Scott is when making a game
Jeremy Fitzgerald Getting bite By Toy Bonnie Bite of 87 - FNAF 2 - Fritz Glade Favorite Blue Rabbit aka Toy Bonnie As well. Alongside with Bonnie Glade Vengeful spirit As Toy Bonnie was inspired by the Toy Chica as well as laughing Boy as well
ok so none of this is completely sure because theres so much conflicting nonsense but: fnaf 4: the most sensical explanation is that the nightmares are illusions, but to torture michael, not his brother. michael has undeniably seen the nightmare animatronics because he drew a picture of nightmare fredbear in the security logbook. it would also make no sense for william to be doing these things prior to the death of any major characters, including building sister location, because how and why would he try to harvest remnant before discovering it in the first place. sister location and Elizabeth's death almost definitely do not take place in 1983. midnight motorist: i dont think the orange guy is william, i think the kid in question is one of william's victims, thats where the footprints came from. It also lines up with one of high school chica's cutscenes where she talks about kidnapping someone. orange guy is the father of the victim in question, not afton. this would also be consistent with the other two minigames being about afton's victims.
Let's see... Overall, very well done. I do have a point or two on things you mentioned. [And not just to give this a bit of a boost in the algorithm. ;) ] 1) I always took the daughter saying Baby was "made for her" more as a "but I'm a spoiled child who always gets what she wants and loves this new robot you made, so it must be mine" rather than anything her father actually said to her. (That is 100% personal perspective, though.) 2) I believe the only things scanned for the creation of the VR game (in universe) were the circuit boards. If memory serves, that's supposed to same them in programing time for pathfinding. I don't recall anything related to the floor plans being scanned in. (In agreement with the whole "how the heck does the virtual Springtrap thing work" issue, though.)
It doesn't help that so many of the games didn't aim for sequels. 1, 3, 4, 6, UCN all leave the series at AN end. Obviously none are THE end, but it continues. I like to keep everything through UCN as it's own thing though, after that it starts a new chapter. It's strange that in Ruin, basically anything paranormal is gone, though. There are no spirits involved, which is odd.
Do You remember about Popgoes bite of 87 belongs to Toy Bonnie was responsible and Guilty As shadow Bonnie aka Bonnie Glade As shadow Blackrabbit collection of Toy Bonnie was mysteries As well.
I remember that there was this video from this French youtuber about FNaF (he used to love the series, but fell out of it due to the mess that is SL lore), that video was golden
the 10th anniversary of Five Nights at Freddy's is coming up in 2 days, we just got a teaser for the next game, which seems to reveal that it takes place in 1979 (its about the mimic thing) that means a SHAPESHIFTING ROBOT existed at the same time people where using barely peices of scrap wearing yellow fursuits, this series' story isn't redeemable, its an incoherent mess that cant be fixed a toddler could right a better story than this, and im done with it, i quit being a fnaf fan, ill stick around for the 10th anniversary but im done after that it pains me to say it because i grew up with this series, but you've gotta leave things behind eventually and the time has come.
I love the earlier FNAF games with Five nights at freddy’s 2 being one of my favorite horror games I love it that much. To me ultimate custom night was the last good FNAF and was the perfect send off. I hated Help wanted and Security breach was the game that made me officially give up on the franchise. I dont plan on olaying Help wanted 2 it looks boring and is just telling the same story again. FNAF was big for me when I was a kid I was a fan ever since the first game but where the franchise is now im frustrated and frankly upset with how broken the lore is and how some FNAF fans act like its all planned and that scott is actually a genius when its clear hes coming up with this stuff out of his ass. I will always love this franchise but I just dont really care about the newer FNAF games or lore
Since they came out with that crap about the illusory discs, I stopped seeing the Fnaf story as something serious and I lost interest a lot, I miss those old days when the story had paranormal things but inside everything it was realistic and it felt like a story that could take place in real life (At least from the first game to Fnaf 4). I liked it because when I investigated and discovered things, I felt like a detective gradually revealing the truth with the help of others. For me, it has always been more logical that the events of Fnaf 4 were a nightmare of Evan or events that he dreamed while he was in a coma before dying, that was the old theory and honestly it is more credible than that of William (literally) torturing his child with real animatronics masked as monsters. So honestly, I will follow the advice I saw in another comment, after Fnaf UCN, consider everything what comes next (Both in games or additional info) as non-canon unless you like it. Something sad is that I liked Security Breach, but the abysmal damage it does to the story of the main saga makes me take it as a separate tale in an Alternative Universe or something, just like the books. It saddens me to see how one of my favorite video game sagas ended like this :(.
Freaking copyright strikes... Well, I will just repeat my question because I shall not be silenced. What do you think about the Fnaf Fan games? You do not need to answer again if you don't want to.
Well said. Things mostly made sense up through UCN (mostly). Sister Location was an odd one but if it had been the furthest into scifi we went it would have been alright. And I mean what we see in the game, not the stuff that gets added later through information in the novels. I don't like the direction they are going with the games right now, or some of the concepts they added in the novels. As for the short stories, about half the Fazbear Frights are actually pretty good and remind me a lot of the very first game in that they are about the pain and suffering from the atrocities at Freddy's now haunting a variety of objects and harming innocent people who happen across them. (The other half just make no sense at all and I think they are probably only urban legends even in the Fazbear Frights' timeline.) The way William is included in the short stories is actually much better than what they did in Help Wanted or Security Breach, and in a way I kind of wish they had made the games go in a direction closer to the concept of the Fazbear Frights ghost stories (and preferably set them before FFPS instead of just randomly bringing F.E. back). So, rather than some big bad evil controlling everything, it's just the echos of past suffering haunting animatronics/games/restaurants, amassing more and more pain as more people die because greedy F.E. would rather make a fast buck at the cost of some employees and customers than deal with their problems... until FFPS ends it all. But nope :/
I think after FNAF 6 I think Scott should've stop making more FNAF games after that. If he went with doing that then I think Five Nights at Freddy's could've ended on a high note. But nope we get more confusing lore just so that way I can tear out my brain cells out with an answer like, why? Edit: I used to be a fan of this series around FNAF 1 through 4. Why? Well it's because the lore was not complicated and it was actually scary. But seeing FNAF not being scary makes me sad to watch. Fnaf no longer likes to be scary. They care about going down the horror path for kids now because they lost sight on what made FNAF well FNAF. And I can't blame fans that feel like the lore is a mess now. That's the same feeling I felt when Sister location came out. Also why the hell are there realistic reasons why ghost of dead children go into spooky animatronics now? Why? Why Scott? What was the point? There is no reason to explain how the supernatural works. That's the reason why it's called the supernatural. It's stuff that can't be explained. Anyways I would like to say if you like the series then I'm glad you can find some joy in something I can't. I'm just explaining my perspective from how far the franchise went down in how I used to see it as. But man those first 4 games were truly amazing games. Scott hands down to you for making such a great series.
I honestly agree up l fell off from fandom and being fan it around sister location until it rement become a thing in the lore but l got to the point where the lore become to boring to me? lm not to sure how to explain it but it lost it ogrinal spark of it to the point where it need to just stop. l did like the idea of the funtimes but l kinda wish it was done in a different . Along with the books having different unverse yet some of stuff the books is caon and some it is lost it just got to much to the. Than when the movie came out while people thought it was terriable since it took insperation from the books and not the main games l was just happy we even got a movie it could be improve yes it can it dose have its fault but atleast the fnaf 1 gan looks great. but l feel like it should of just ended. but l still love the series but not as much as l do now
He didn’t say that he said remnant soul like energy that the killer in this franchise uses like some magical drug to become immortal he even made an extractor for it in sister location which is just to sci fi to even be fnaf I mean if you’re going to involve science with the supernatural at least do it right
