Ever since Rusty put up that video on how he was battling his personal struggles, he physically looks better in his videos. I can tell that he must be doing better mentally. Keep it up 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Which still makes it wild that they didn’t get picks for Giddey. Like even if you think he’ll be better than Alex C later in his career, getting picks to build around him and other players will always be a better deal than not getting picks. It’s still wild lol
This is exactly what I said in the comments for the video about the Caruso trade. Having GIddey for Caruso didn't make a lot of sense, but without picks it was just completely unfathomable. The Thunder have basically so many picks, they can afford to blow one of them on loading off Giddey that held this team down. Getting a really good defensive player for him was basically unheard of value, they could have waived him to become better, but now they got one of the best defensive guards in the league that isn't bad on other stuff either. I don't understand how this team, that basically had a ton of draft luck already, keep getting so many awesome deals that make no sense. It is almost unfair to the NBA itself.
Dont know why you think its such a sure thing that Giddey cant improve massively over a few years given hes only 21. His shot could come along, he shot 81% from the line which is normally a good indicator the jumpshot could improve. He needs to massively improve on defence but has time on his side
If you watched Giddey and how he plays in order for him to be a very impactful player he will have to improve a lot he put up good stats but he very inconsistent and has glaring weaknesses due to his frame and lack of skill
What does waiting too long look like? The Bulls 1-2 years ago they could have gotten a lot more draft capital. Now they’re rebuilding with way less assets than they should have
1 or 2 years ago was 2022 or 2023. They got Caruso, DeRozan and Ball in the 2021 offseason. So they should've given up after 1 year? after 6 years of rebuilding (after trading Jimmy Butler in 2017), they should've given up after 1 year? What the bulls should've done was NOT go after DeRozan in the first place and instead go for a playmaking Small Forward, instead of Playing DeRozan out of position...then maybe Balls' injury wouldn't have set us back so much.
I feel they are kinda bullish on these trades. They will be looking around for some time, trying to trade someone. And when they finally find someone that is interested, they keep on going offering things to make it work.
(1) I understand if people don't buy into Giddey as a player and critique the trade for that reason, but Caruso is 30 and is replacement level on offense. It was either Giddey or trade him for a first and a second or a first and a rotation player. Caruso was not getting more than the Celtics got for Marcus Smart (even if maybe he should have). I think that Giddey, given his age and quality of play just a season ago is a decent pickup. He is a lottery value player with known limitations. (2) The Derozan deal was a sign and trade where we could have gotten nothing. Getting two second rounders is solid. The Bulls had no leverage. (3) At this point I wonder if it would be better to just keep Vuc until the season starts. He can score a bunch of empty points in losses and we can get better value from a desperate contender. Lavine needs to go, however...if anyone will take him.
As for 2 what i find funny is the spurs had no leverage yet somehow got the most out of this deal. Taking Harrison Barnes on actually helps the team as a vet and another reliable scoring option and he's a positive defender, to get a pick as good as the one the kings gave up and with no protections is crazy
@@Sqeaky6969 I think Sac were making space for Derozan and someone had to take on a contract. So the Spurs picked up a solid guy. It was less leverage than positioning.
The GSW proposed a deal of Trayce Jackson-Davis, Moses Moody and a first round pick to get Caruso. Moses Moody is the same age as Giddey and as already proven that he can be a decent 3&D player at the minimum, Trayce Jackson-Davis ceiling might be a bit low but he'll probably have quite a long career as a bench big-man. That's only one exemple of the kind of deals the Bulls refused. Choosing Giddey is a gamble. Can a non-shooting, non-defending, average finisher and ball-handler point forward who has not improve since his rookie year (when he was putting empty stats on a tanking team) be a real building block for the future ? Like do you want to put the ball in the hand of a guy who's nothing more than an above average passer ?
@@Herzeder It depends entirely on how you value Giddey. Is he the equivalent of a top 5 pick as he looked a year ago, or can he not play on a playoff roster like last season. The trade was determined by the former valuation. I have not watched Giddey enough to have an informed opinion. He clearly has size, is young, can pass, get to the basket a bit, and rebound well for his position. His youth gives some hope that he can improve as a defender. Is Moses Moody and a first be more valuable than Giddey? Quite possibly, but only time will tell. I am simply saying that we weren't getting a first out of OKC while still getting Giddey. And had Giddey played more like the season before last, he would have likely gotten OKC a first looking at the Deni Avdija trade.
@@michaelcarrig627 He never looked like a top 5 pick, never, he wasn't not even one of the 6 guys who got some ROTY votes in 22. He was pretty good as a rookie tho, but he was just putting empty numbers in a tanking team, that doesnt mean much. He is a decent passer even tho he loose a lot of balls because he doesnt have great handle, but he's clearly not that good at finishing at the basket (below league average in efficiency at the rim) and he rebounds decently mostly because he played a lot of minutes without a bigman, he's just a tall dude catching defensive boards. He'll not improve as a defender, he is too slow for the guards and too "weak" (for a lack of a better term) to guard forwards + he has not hustle instinct. I'm pretty sure you could have get a first out of OKC, or at least a couple of seconds. I'm pretty sure Giddey will be out of the league in a few years. You all are just blinded by his rookie year, you're blinded by stats put up in a tanking season. A guy who can only pass doesnt have a place in the league, even if he's absolutely elite at it, and Giddey isn't even an elite passer.
I’m from Kansas City and got to work in Chicago for a couple summer in college. I remember being so so so excited to finally be in a basketball city and it was so disappointing when nobody gave a single flying fuck. Nobody at work was talking basketball, nobody was talking about last night’s game. It sucked. I really hope the next time I go back the buzz i remember my older cousins and friends talking about when they visited during the start of D Rose’s career. Or just something. Anything.
Josh giddey is literally lonzo ball in his early career check his stats compared to lonzo, but everyone lovessssss lonzo for some reason at least giddey can stay on the court
Lonzo was clowned to death during his first two seasons, what the f are you talking about ? + Lonzo always was a pretty good defender and he improved his shooting at some point. Giddey isn't a good defender, his jumpshot his trash and he has shown no sign of improvement since his rookie year.
@@Herzeder if giddey was in la he would be getting clowned 2 wym it’s LA not okc…Lonzo just started being a good defender when he was on bulls he wasn’t that great of a defender on the pelicans or lakers…giddey is only 21 when did Lonzo learn how to shoot wasn’t until he got traded to the pelicans at the same age literally lastly Lonzo hasn’t played in 2 years and always been injury prone compared to giddey who plays most games
Every thing I liked about you originally channel has shifted to this channel I’m fine with it. But I just won’t watch then main vids as much still subbed tho. I love vids like Kenny’s , Threecones and this one where yall just ramble/ share ur opinion on different topics
Not with you on the Matas take man but other than that you put a lot of my frustrations as a fan of this franchise on display here and it’s appreciated to know that other fans are feeling the same way and are fed up with mediocrity. Keep it up rusty
When we get into the dead spot of the off season you should just be the long form video ideas like Make team timeline videos like "Chicago Bulls timeline: how did we get here"
@@ColdHoops If the Bulls try to tear it down and then end up winning the in-season tournament, getting 8th seed through the play-in tournament, and then getting swept in the first round, I think that might just end Rusty after allowing himself to finally start hoping in this video
Don't trade vucevic. Having a center who can make plays in the high post, play dribble hand off and pick n pop so the young players can play under a high post system is very important for their development.
There's hardly any 'centers' any more. Because most of the league are young players, there's more forwards. But because they're tall, especially with a lot of teams still using 'small ball lineups', forwards have been forced to become 'centers'. It's tragic, but that's the modern NBA for you 🤷♂️
The Bulls will be better than what you think. Giddey is a good player and not a rookie, maybe watch some more basketball and understand what you're watching, or don't
no, coveting political opinions and putting them on a taboo pedestal like you’re not supposed to talk about them or joke about them is what causes division.
Nobody is coveting political opinions, I am merely saying that this isn't the first time he's done this. I would have no issue if he went at both sides like that, but he doesn't.
Derozan as a 6MOTY candidate (maybe starting, rarely finishing) would be amazing value for a championship roster, I'm just not sure that he's ready to settle for that kind of role
So I’m not happy about giddey but there is a part of me that thinks the bulls are kinda cooking if lonzo can come back healthy they have a very good playmaking back court with solid size and defense. Could be fun lol
It really makes you think where the Bulls would be now if they hadn't been so stubborn about rebuilding. Like why now? Nothing's really better or worse than it was. If they'd done this back when Lonzo had his first long patch out they could've still gotten a Ben Simmons style return on a guy that used to be good and people expected to come back eventually, but now he's worth nothing as no one expects him back. Back then Lavine would've been worth something big, Derozan would've been worth more than he got now and while you'd not get much for Vucevic, you'd get less now. They could've got some real good trade pieces and picks going into a couple of really strong years of the draft.
If the bulls gave up as soon as Ball got injured, that means they would've given up on the REBUILD in less than a year just to rebuild again. I don't get why so many bulls fans are saying this.
@@FAlynn92 I'm not a bulls fan, and I didn't say as soon as he got injured, I said after his first long patch out, as in he'd already missed a huge amount of time, it was becoming clear he may not come back but he might and would still be worth something and lavine, derozan and Vuch had proven they weren't going to go anywhere past 40 wins
@@jonathand.t.5051 Sadly, this is mostly true. Either bad or greatly overachieved (2007, 2013) I've only been watching since the 96-97 season and outside of those first two years, 2011 and 2012 are the only other period in recent memory that I felt hopeful about. Just a lot of mid or a lot of bad outside of that.
The only good thing to come out of this recent Bulls era are Alex Caruso proving to be worth a good contract more than anything and DeMar DeRozan showing how much of a valuable asset you can be, even as a player that is basically playing an older style of basketball. I followed the bulls for a while, because Lonzo went there and I really thought it was interesting what was going on there, but this whole era, that started with the Vucevic trade, basically went nowhere on account of injury on the defensive talent and the offensive talent not being good enough on the defensive end. Also, considering Lonzo was by far the best playmaker and out, there was a dirth of playmaking that could not be overcome by DeRozan alone. DeRozan basically was not at fault in this, he played his ass off and deserved all the accolades he got and probably a few more. I know of tons of basketball content creators that begrudgingly admitted that he was still a really good player in that first year or two. Even now, I think if anyone can offer a different look for Sacremento, it is DeMar. The Pelicans had some talks with them about Ingram, but since the Kings basically have nothing they need (a center basically) that blew over and they got DeRozan instead. This will maybe get them over the hump to get them in the playoffs again, it also offers a new angle of attack that the team didn't have. And while he certainly isn't a good defensive player, with the average on Sacremento being so offensive slanted, he will not bring their defense further down. He might be landing about where Barnes was, the 4th or 5th best defensive player on the team.
The Bulls aren’t rebuilding, the roster just won’t win games. There’s a difference. I don’t see any Boston or San Antonio level strategy here. They’re just going to be bad for a really long time.
Even a bad rebuild is a rebuild. Normally teams get a lot of draft capital and young players in return for their older key players. The Bulls just let their players go for a pack of chips and a mushroom scented candlestick.
@@alsorustybucketsHow about this… if the Bulls sell picks to move Zach and or Vuc, it’s just a tear down until the Bulls show a path to getting better.
One small correction rusty the spurs didn't give up a pick swap, they got one from the kings unprotected for taking on Harrison Barnes and cus we also had to trade Graham to make that space so it was kind of a u scratch my back i scratch urs deal. We did trade RaiQuan Gray to the bulls tho so there's that
it’s insane. they should have gotten the 11th pick this year. giddy is borderline trash. if he doesn’t fix that jumper and defense he’ll be a backup on a bad team.
@@Philbyyyy stats are not a good indication of how good a player is. can the dude shoot? no. can the dude play defense? no. the odds of him being a top 3 star that can carry your team are very very low. thus, as i said, he is "borderline trash". he is an 8th man most likely in the NBA. but there is a small chance that he ends up being a star and can play along side a taytum & brown on a championship team. thats why i dont hate the trade but we should have gotten a 1st rounder from OKC. did okc really need to add topik to their team as their 4th 2 guard? nope.
@@shake6321 he's 21. Go back and look at Demars 3rd yr stats. Anyway, I'm inclined to disregard most of last year due to how much pressure he was under on and off court. He noted his defensive deficiencies in his exit interviews and I think he is smart enough to get to work in those areas.
@@Philbyyyy he is for sure gonna get better. the issue is that the league is moving away from slow guys with short arms who cant defend and cant shoot and AK loves these types of players. thats what i hate about AK. he simply fails to acknowledge what the league is. he thinks this is the year 2000 and you can "teach" people to play defense and get away with mid range scoring. you cant anymore. there is too much space for slow guys like giddy to cover. AK refuses to acknowledge that we are in the "five out" era. players have to shoot and defend the perimeter. giddy cant do either. nor could demar; nor can zach; nor can vuc; nor can buzelis. i can go on and on. thats why teams dont want any of these players for all their 1 on 1 scoring wizardry. We were the team of jordan, pippen and rodman & Phil. now, we are suppose to believe in josh giddy. lol. he is a back up (if that) in the modern NBA. The only way he succeeds as a starter is if he ends up on a team with Wemby, jason taytum and jalen brown. but then again, what NBA couldnt succeed with those type of players hiding your flaws?
Losing mentality saying "well we got something" nah not really. Not one 1st round pick for Caruso or DeRozan and that's just a poor GM. Giddey will be good you just don't know hoops that well
I feel most people know the Bulls should trade Vuc to anyone willing to give anything for him, Trade Lavine for as many picks as you can get and start a full rebuild. This is the Bulls though, they'll do something stupid instead.
I don't know if that was a good move from OKC Caruso ain't consistent giddy can give U points on a daily Caruso must be getting old by now. hartenstein good steal though
You must not watch much ball. P Giddiy was a complete liability in the playoffs because he couldn’t score well when they forced him to make shots. Caruso can give you good defense, and better shooting from 3 for SGA to kick to.
Demar should not be an NBA player. He definitely can hoop but not an efficient scorer. As a ballhog, he doesn’t know how to play winning games. He is so boring; nobody would notice even if he scores 100 points.
Demar literally broke MJ's record for consecutive games averaging 20+ ppg on avove 50% shooting the only place he isn't effecient from is 3 and he's still plenty capable
