The Burton Batman Duology Analyzed 

Something I like about the Burton movies is the atmosphere he gives the gothic look or setting and it's characters. One problem I have with Batman adaptations nowadays is the creators try to copy way to much of the Nolan movies, trying to portray Batman in a more "realistic way", which I'm not totally against, but I feel takes away alot of fun the comic book elements the movie should have. Sure Batman stories are dark and have serious and mature themes but it also has silly elements from the comics (ex: the colorfull villains, the batman's gadgets) and the plot still centers around a guy who dress up like a bat and protect his city from villain such as clown, a bird man and a guy who has a "hot tub of immortality". I enjoy all the Batman movies (minus the Schumacher ones and BvS) but of all the directors I feel Burton was the one who came close to capture well the world of Batman.

Batman Return's ending saddens me because I really liked the relationship between him and Catwoman and the ending made it seem like they gonna bring her back and go even more in depth with their chemistry. Shame.

Batman Returns gets it man! It's dark, depressing, and violent, just like Gotham City. Batman fights crime night after night and things never get better.

"He kills the Joker by the end so, uh..mission accomplished I guess" That is one of the stronger points of Batman Forever though. It does address the fact that getting his revenge didn't make the pain go away, and it actually got worse.

When Arkham Knight brought out the Batman 89 skin pack I spent three hours grappling around Gotham playing the theme on my phone. No regrets.

This duology came out when I was very young (born in 88) and so I feel very nostalgic for them. My mom had them on VHS. I watched them a ton as a kid and as such, they’ll always hold a special place in my heart. With that said, they’re not nearly as entertaining now as they were when I was a kid. A lot of the problems you listed are the same problems I have with them (especially the overloaded plot in Returns) but it’s the atmosphere that still grabs me. I remember these movies less for their merits as “movies” but more for their unmistakable Tim Burton moodiness.

I had no idea the 4K Blu-rays were so crappy.

I like the Tim Burton movies more than the Christopher Nolan movies. There I said it.

I literally can't wait for the Spider-Man trilogy videos. 2 is my absolute favorite movie of all time, 1 isn't too far behind, and I've recently gained a new appreciation for 3. Keep up the good work J!

The organ instrument in Batman returns is amazing Batman returns was a childhood movie of mine while my mom left for work I would watch Batman returns all the time

Batman 66 is gr8 bro

I personally think Michael Keaton is the best batman

You're right about the audio on the 4k's of Batman movies but wrong about the picture. As someone who works in restoration, the Burton Bat films had a tint to them, Returns esp an ink blue which was removed for Home Ent back in the VHS days because it wouldn't look good on tape. Those masters were then used for every release after, DVD and blu-ray. The 4K scans are actually how these films looked on the big screen. I recently saw Returns here in LA on film and it was the exact same tint as the 4K. It's just that we're not used to it after 30 years of the home ent releases.

"Let's dance!" and remember how these fun and dark films based on our Caped Crusader are interesting and kinda suspenseful. Stay safe and keep it up!

Your opinion is valid, however for people like myself who grew up with this series as well as the Superman film series, it affected us on a psychological and molecular level. Superman is supposed to be light hearted, and Batman is supposed to be dark (although a light hearted Batman can be done well, i.e. the 1960s movie/TV show or Batman: The Brave and the Bold). I can tolerate Batman Forever, but Batman & Robin was just...awful.

Honestly I love watching Batman Returns during Christmas

In 2021 dc announced they are doing a comic continuation of the Tim Burton Batman movies and the Christopher Reeves Superman movies

"he's an eccentric weirdo". Yeah, welcome to Tim Burton movies. Also, the superman score is very memorable outside the main theme. After the titles you have the Krypton theme.

Heh, nice to see that clip from Ratchet: Gladiators, especially after having beaten all four of those R&C games very recently on PS2. 😁

I love your videos dude

Alfred was played by Michael Gough (pronounced 'goff')

Man , you look great haha

I'd love to hear your thoughts on the 60s Batman show. Personally I love it and I'm 20.

Great work! "It doesn't answer the question of which is better" (Superman VS Batman), because the only objective way answer it is do a full cinematographic analysis which covers all aspects of filmmaking and, even then, art is subjective and it falls down to "did you or did you not enjoy it". That's why we should restrict ourselves from saying "this piece of art is good/bad", or worse, comparing it, because pieces of art are independant of any other, they're only "better/good" or "worse/bad" considering you liking them or not. Any piece of art which appeals to at least someone will say it's good and will get enraged when you say it's bad, so just say you didn't like it. So, if you liked Batman more than Superman, that doesn't make Superman "bad" or "worse". See? It's not a contest.

Just so you know, there’s a new comic book series that continues the storyline of The New Adventures of Batman. You should check it out.

To be fair, it wasn't all the fault of Superman IV, the live action movie version of He-Man, known as Masters of the Universe, in 1987 probably didn't give people who made movies much faith when it came to putting the characters that the fans loved, be they animated or comic book based, onto the big screen, took almost ten years to make Batman '89, oddly it's sequels probably stalled the Spidey films until the Sam Raimi/Toby Maguire in 2002

Batman Returns, on the other hand, never really did it for me. Whereas, the '89 movie had a lot of quinestial Batman, with a little Burton flair, Returns is a Tim Burton movie with a Batman aesthetic. It's just too much of it's own thing in it's depiction of Catwoman and Penguin that it almost feels like an elseworld story. Not that that is a bad thing, inherently, but what it changes, while interesting, isn't really better than the source material. Like you mention in the video, it's just a little too much in the darkness department, being not dark in a serious dramatic way, but more in a "that's really messed up" sort of way. It's just never been a pleasant movie for me to watch and, while visually beautiful, isn't really about anything either, at the end of the day. It's alright, but is actually the Batman movie I enjoy watching the least (yes, even more than Batman and Robin, it knows what it is and is really harmless).

Batman 1989 is a much stronger film if you see it as something of a satire of urban living.

Batman Returns? They should've titled it "Batman II."

The Burton batmovies did do more for batman than superman the movie did for superman cause those movies cause a suit change in the comics to be more body armor like that batman 1989 first gave us before batman was released the suit in the comics looking more like Adam west Lewis Wilson and Robert lowery suit that looked more like tights and trunks and I became a fan of batman in 1989 watching Adam west series that family channel aired as hype for the 89 movie and the first batman movie I saw in theaters at 8 years old was batman returns from what I heard it wasn't public backlash to tone and amount of violence in batman returns that got Burton dismissed from the series of movies it was McDonald's complaints that they couldn't use the movie likenesses of the character and having to alter the looks of the happy meal toys so warner brothers gave McDonald's final approval for the choice of director that would replace Tim Burton and that's how we ended up with joel schumacher as the director for batman forever and batman and robin it all came to batman returns not being as much of a marketable movie as batman 1989 cause of Tim's choice to go darker and more violent cause back then it was about the money that could be made by the movie's merchandise

Ooh, nice Hey J, eventually could you take a look at Young Justice? ... Nah, you're busy. Your retrospectives are always entertaining.

Pacing in batman was kinda weird, and there was no urgency in moving the plot along, things just happen

How would Vicki not know who Bruce Wayne is?

Batman Forever is pure Silver Age Batman. It incorporates much content from the comics. Returns is far from faithful to the comics.

I wonder if he seen smallville

I hate how little these films focus on batman you know the title character He doesn't even have an arc really the biggest stuff he does in these movies has to do with love interests I know in the original sam hamn drafts he has more character And btw I love Jack nicholson as joker but he doesn't have allot of character either Like his only goal is to poison gotham and fuck vicki vale Same with returns penguin instead of being a gunrunner or club owner he's a deformed baby murderer and catwoman yeah i don't like what they do with her either especially her origin And gordon isn't important whatsoever and that bothers me And hot take i don't find returns that much less cartoony then the Schumacher movies You have an overdesigned silly looking over the top villain penguin in returns riddler in forever and mr freeze in batman and Robin and one with a gimmick catwoman with her actual weird cat powers and mannerisms in returns two face with his two things being overdone and poison ivvy with her plants And you have huge beautiful bombastic sets And a silly plan penguins blowing up the city isn't that much more serious than taking the intelligence of gotham with a box But I still love these movies despite hating allot of elements Why Because we would've never gotten btas the entire dcau the dark knight trilogy the arkham games and all the animated films conroy and hamill did

You dare take that back about Batman 95. That movie's really not bad

Returns is leagues better than 89.

That explains why your opinion is so lopsided, you were 12yrs old in 2013🤦‍♂️ as u said, u cant sit-still for 2hours without feeling like u wnna play a video-game smh.. complaints about "too much violence like a soccer mom" i guess the marvel movies where they're dropping buildings on people just killed u🙄 marvel are serial killers, & DC characters have to stick to the rules of no taking lives..👍

I'm sure you wouldn't be a terrible writer you should give it a try

POG

Well, even many versions of Batman that adopted the no kill policy has killer. Most of them in fact. Demonstrative of the degree to which he was pushed.

Nicholson Joker is great... me thinks leaping right off the page is the over statement of the century tho. He looks great. But hes far from perfect.

I mean anyone who's played Lego Batman, that Danny Elfman soundtrack is part of your brain now.

The title "Batman Returns" refers to the fact that the movie is a tale of redemption; a retelling of A Christmas Carol. At the beginning of the film, Wayne is a ghost of his former self- having committed revenge on Napier, he has allowed himself to become consumed by his animalistic alter ego and lost his humanity, therefore he is merely the Bat. Through the course of the sequel however, he is confronted with villainous mirror opposites of himself; his past- the Penguin(both had a tragic childhood and lost their parents albeit in different ways), his present- Selina(who sought revenge on her tormentor as Bruce did with Napier), and his potential future- Shreck(A stone cold psychopath- the direction that Bruce is currently heading in). By the end of the movie; having taken a long hard look in the metaphorical mirror he has developed empathy for both Penguin and Selina and therefore recovered his humanity- ergo Batman Returns. To be Batman he must have balance between his humanity and his primal nature. So yeah, it's a bit deeper than "Batman is returning to theatres"

I just got the Lego 89 Batmobile, it took 8 hours to build, and it's awesome.

17:56 Actually It is call "Batman returns" because "Batman back, baby" would sound way too weird of title.

Kinda surprised the higher ups at WB didn't realize Batman Returns would take a darker turn considering Burton's previous work, Edward Scissorhands, also pulled a complete 180 in tone

In the Golden Age and Silver Age, Batman never had a "no killing" policy. He kills in his first ever appearance. He had a "no guns" policy.

Batman Returns is my favourite Batman movie. I just love the atmosphere, the gothic look or setting, the villains and the awesome soundtrack by Danny Elfman. People say oh it's not Batman movie this time, it's more of Tim Burton movie, good. McDonalds getting pissed because they can't sell their happy meal toys, good. He's taking risks and making it dark. It gets a lot of hate which I'm confused. All three characters worked so well. Danny Elfman had to create themes for Catwoman & Penguin. They're memorable. It's easily one of his best scores, highly recommend especially the Birth of the Penguin and his death which is still one of the saddest endings to a villain. It gets me every time. Well maybe the penguins moving his body is a bit silly but it works. It's not easy making the audience feel sad to a villain's death which is something fans didn't expect or want to see. Burton took risks, I'm so glad he did. I cant believe Danny DeVito got a Razzie nomination. You guys are the same idiots who nominated Kubrick & Brian De Palma for worst directors. Including Ennio Morricone's score of the Thing. The costumes are great even the Bat suit improved. The origins for our villains are told well, both of them are memorable and yet again, the soundtrack makes them even better. Catwoman's origin might be a creepy to some, her first attack with El Scorpio from Predator 2 might be shocking to some especially kids. She's full of surprises. It was fun seeing Christopher Walken, I can't believe his son is Leatherface or Zangief from Street Fighter. Lucky dad. Then again, Penguin's dad is none other than Pee-wee Herman. Batman's introduction is sweet and badass. So many memorable shots & scenes. Burton really took it as far as he could. Although there are some silly moments like the villains getting the blueprint of the batmobile, its still a dark film, so you kinda get a comic book film mixed with Burton's dark side.Overall, a fantastic underrated sequel that went to a new direction and managed to make the comic book characters a bit more interesting like the Penguin. Unfortunately, this is where the darkness stops, too bad, even as a kid, I loved it and still do. Sometimes I wish he continued with the sequels, Burton's version of these characters are unique and they stand out. You might love Nicholson's Joker more, just don't forget the Penguin & Catwoman. And just like the first movie, Batman does kill in this one.... didn't bother me. Let's not forget he makes out with a zombie... Everyone prefers the Dark Knight more, great, I don't hate it, it's just that I didn't care for it except the Joker scenes, I was memorized by his performance. To the point that I didn't even want to see Batman anymore. I prefer Batman Returns, it's cold, dark, weird and fantastic. Believe me, I could go on & on. I haven't even talked about his new gadgets. Funny, as a kid I thought the baby was Batman, when the title showed up with all the bats, it looked like the baby was going to the bat cave. Its weird that both Batman films have great quotes with the word Honey in it. One coming from Joker and the other from Catwoman. And who could forget those cute little penguins with their rockets. Aww they're going to kill the children. Plus the Circus gang looks like Joker's henchmen. I almost forgot the silly pictures of Christopher Walken with Arnold, Elvis etc. Classic. And yes, he does say unlimited poontang. Always take risks, forget about what McDonalds think, pussies. Michael Keaton should have done something since he was the Founder. As Orson Welles once said to Ed Wood, "visions are worth fighting for".

Michael Keaton is Batman what are you talking about?

Actually J, I'm not really sure what your thoughts on BTAS, do you think you can make a video on it someday?

Burton practically refused to direct BATMAN RETURNS (or "Batman II," as it was still called at the time) unless Warner Brothers gave him full creative control. The reason, he said, was that otherwise he'd feel that he was just doing a remake of the 1989 film, and he didn't see any point in doing that. (He also thought that the '89 film did nothing for his career, since people saw that simply as a Batman movie and not HIS movie.)

I enjoy both movies too but I watched batman 1989 more out of the two. One more batman movie from tim burton would have been more interesting than the garbage we got with batman forever stupid name sounds like a kid tattoo

With so many superhero movies in our current film climate, I really appreciate the unique, stylish, and hand crafted feel to the Burton/Keaton movies. Also, they really do look like the comic books especially with their depictions of Gotham City. Great art direction and production design in both movies. Burton nailed the look but Nolan nailed the characters. I enjoy both portrayals.

Something I always found interesting about the 89 film is that if you lived under a rock you wouldn’t learn Batman and Bruce Wayne are the same person till over half way through. I wonder if it was meant to be a twist for the uninitiated. Anyway Which DC films do you plan to cover?

Batman Returns is my favorite movie! I'm obsessed with Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman since 1992. When I was 11 and I had a crush on her. Batman Returns is more dark, violent and depressing than Batman (1989).

These movies had the best version of the Batmobile.

Tim Burton doesn't get enough credit and respect he deserved bringing the Caped Crusader to screen it's was dark but it wasn't boring unlike Nolan sequels feel like watching Law and Order episodes Batman hardly in them except the scenes where he does the horrifying laughably voice.

Michael Keaton is my fav Batman. The original 89 Batman is my fav Batman film.

These deserve more views dammit

Fun fact: The Joker did not kill Batman's parents in this. Remember the scene where Bruce is looking in the scrapbook and sees Jack's picture? Well, on the opposite side you can see the actual killer hidden behind a photo of Jack, his eyes are staring right at you. Many people overlook this. I didn't see it until Nostalgia Critic mentioned it in a video once.

I enjoyed your review J, but one thing I personally don't really understand is how you thought Returns was overloaded with a million different plots. Sure, Penguin's schemes are really out there, but the gist is that both Penguin and Shreck tried to profit off each other, Penguin blackmailing Shreck with evidence in order to get info on his parents' whereabouts, and Shreck trying to have Penguin run for mayor and have his goons wreck havoc in Gotham to discredit the current mayor so he can push his power plant plans with Penguin in power. As for Penguin's batmobile hijacking and ice princess murder bits, it was to mess and frame Batman in a bad light since he messed with his gang and he's a psychopath, resorting to killing babies and then bombing Gotham out of spite for his parents and sheer resentment that everyone including his gang eventually abandons him. For the rest, really solid takes on the Burton movies.

That scene where Batman makes his entrance in the Axis chemical plant is one of my all time favourite movie scenes. Cape billowing out, Eflman's score... perfect.

Batman 89 is my definitive Batman movie that I first saw back in 89 when I was 3 years old. Your perspective on it not only talks about it's obvious flaws, but as well as it's strengths, and I think you did an excellent job on your review of it. Good job, kid!

keaton will always be my Batman

Love how Pee-Wee Herman is the Penguin’s dad.

I feel like part of the reason I like batman begins and dark knight is because batman is in the driver seat and people are reacting to his actions. His goal is to take down the mob. I like Batman 89 but I realize he's the one reacting to things; he's just fighting crime and then joker appears and it's all reacting until the end. As for returns' title, maybe batman is returning a shirt to old navy? The only thing that actually returns is penguin for revenge but I guess "Batman: Cobblepot Returns" would have been a bizarre choice.

Would have loved to have seen Jack’s joker interact with Michelle’s catwoman and Danny’s Penguin

Great job! I'm interested to see where this series goes, and am excited for part 3.

11:30 Kevin conroys Batman is the definitive Batman. Jeez now I want to go watch all of J reviews again!!!!

The algorithm burried the Superman movies video.

89 Batman is perfection

Prince did an ENTIRE ALBUM of 9 songs for the movie. Only 6 of the songs were actually in the movie. There were 4 singles from the album. 2 of them, Partyman which you spoke about and Scandalous which plays during the end credits, were in the movie.

" Eat floor high fibre."

If there’s one thing that Bat 89 did Was introduced me to Prince Batman 89 is awesome

The Burton Batman, where to start? For me, Batman '89 was an act away from being a classic. By that, I mean the first two acts are pretty much flawless, and it is only in the third act where a lot of people's biggest problems with it arise. One thing people often overlook is that Batman actually doesn't kill anyone until the third act. If you watch the way Batman operates for most of the movie, he not only coincidentally doesn't kill, but actively saves/ties up criminals. It feels like there was a real quintessential version of Batman in the script for most of the movie, but in the last act, after finding out that the Joker is his parents' killer, he kind of just becomes an 80's action hero. That being said, it is still a great movie and piece of Batman history, even if it is a rather simple movie and isn't really about Batman.

The scene in 89 where Batman crashes through the top window to save Vicki from Joker, ever since I first noticed the wire in the background, I can't tell if that was meant to be unnoticed but the filmmakers couldn't do a thing about or if it's supposed to be noticed cause Batman's using a grappling hook or something.

Batman Returns on SNES is actually really great, quite possibly one of the best Beat-em'-Up games ever made.

Nicholson's contract gives him a piece of the profits on ANYTHING with Batman on it. I'm pretty sure that the only officially licensed Batman item you can buy without Jack getting a cut are the comic books. I believe he even gets 1% of the profits from the Nolan movies, and all the toys, games, etc attached to it.. and even Batman v Superman & Justice League

When you realize Penguin's Father was played by Pee Wee Herman

For me Batman 89 is better.

Even if they do under perform I think that the superman episode was great.

My family and I saw "Batman" in 1989, when it came out, in the theater. We liked it so much, that we saw it four times over the following months. In fact, the fourth time we saw it, I already owned it on VHS, as it was released about six months after it came out in theaters, and was STILL in our local theaters at that point. I later bought it on DVD, with a lot of extras thrown in, as that's what they did in those days. The earliest DVD's were just like their VHS releases, "Just the film, Ma'm". (Remember "Dragnet"?) Later, the Studios added all kinds of, "behind the scenes" and "Making Of . . ." documentaries to these formats. Lately, unless you go for a BluRay release, these are not included any longer. And in the few films that still do add them, usually as a second disc, there really isn't much to it anymore. The reason that Tim Burton was "dismissed", (sounds SO much better than "fired"), from making a third film, was the Parent's reaction to all of the violence in the first two movies. WB told them that any more Batman films will be "toned down" so as to be "kid-friendly". Really? Was Batman Forever less violent? Was there no violence whatever in "Batman And Robin"? Such hypocrites. Promise the public a whole new thing, get rid of the one director who turned you studio into a money maker once more and brought on the "Live Action Cartoons". Yeah, right. In "Batman Returns", the beginning took place, perhaps, 35 years before the rest of the film, (you have to allow for the child to grow up into the adult), so being born at home, was not a "perk" of being rich, many children were born at home. We don't know, Possibly she went into complications and had the doctor called in, only to deliver pre-maturely. However it happened, the child was born at home, as were both of my own parents. And believe me, we were not rich. By the way, Selina Kyle did NOT create her costume, "out of garbage bags", it was made by cutting up a vinyl raincoat. So, a little more substantial than garbage bag plastic.

Tbe Killing Joke literally ends with Batman killing the Joker.

I love batman 89 yes it may not have a whole lot of substance and I HATE that batman kills in it but I still love lots of things. I love Keaton, Nicholson, the batsuit, the batmobile, the score , and the aesthetic and gothic set design of everything It's a classic and we wouldn't have any of the batman stuff today if not for this movie so for me it's a solid 8/10 Batman returns is a movie I like, but every time I watch it (every Christmas) I like it less, it has the same good stuff from the first one but even less substance, it's just weird to me Great video j :-)

If you’re going to do more, I’d love to see a video about why audiences didn’t respond to Daredevil 2003 (even though it was a direct answer to Raimi’s Spider-Man)

Actually as Crisis On Infinite Earth's behind the scenes with Kevin Smith has taught us The 2 Shoemaker Films are in their own separate universe

I saw Batman Returns as a child before I ever even saw Batman 89, and I thought it was awesome. It never occurred to me that it uses horror imagery until I found people talking about it on the internet. I also never saw it as being a major letdown from Batman 89 because I saw Batman 89 later, so to me it was just 2 awesome Batman movies Also, Batman should NEVER kill for one BASIC, FUNDAMENTAL reason. If Batman kills, why tf is Joker still alive? Mind you, in the DCEU continuity, you are led to believe that a) Batman kills random thugs with no noticeable hesitation, b) Joker and Harley Quinn successfully killed Robin, and c) Batman is not out to kill Joker or Harley Quinn. Something important is missing from that equation.

Wow, I'm surprised. Most folks nowadays tend to either shit on Batman 89, say it's more notable for what it did than for what it is, or like it more out of nostalgia than anything, but you actually enjoyed it. That's really cool. For me, 89 is still the best live action Batman film. I feel it's the closest we've come to getting it right, even with some of the changes/elements that I'm on the fence about (Batman killing criminals, Joker killing Batman's parents, etc). It balances the lighter and darker aspects of the series very well, Keaton and Nicholson really nail it as Batman and Joker, and it felt like they took one of the old comic book stories and put it on the big screen while still including some of the developments that the series gained over time. Personally, I still prefer Keaton over Bale as Batman; Bale always felt like he was forcing it on some level to me, while Keaton just felt so natural as the character (I also feel that he was able to portray an "unspoken sadness and turmoil" that added another level to his character). I also prefer Nicholson to Ledger, as while Ledger was impressive in how into the character he was playing he got, Nicholson just seemed to embody the mix of comedy and insanity that is the Joker. I also enjoyed the comedy more than you did, Robert Wuhl was great, a dorky putz that you can't help but laugh at. I also enjoy Batman Returns, but moreso in it's own oddball and demented way (I have a certain taste for that kind of thing). I totally understand if people hate it. Truthfully, I think both Batman film series started off really well with their first movie, but by the second started becoming "the director's movie" rather than a "Batman movie." Maybe it's just me, but that's how I feel about them, and I can see arguments on both sides about whether that's good or bad. Anyways, I'll be interested to see what you think of the other films.

Great vid, can't wait for the next!!! :D

Loved it! Looking forward to the next review in this series. 👍🏻😊🦔🦔

In SUPERMAN 3, was I the only one detecting a very lesbian type vibe between the busy lady and the blonde bimbette?? There was even a quick scene of the busy lady running her fingers on the blondes hands, smiling.

🙂 nice job j, I'll admit that Batman 89 is still a great movie to this day, I enjoy it, as for returns, it have a special place for me, interestingly enough I actually played the snes game before watching the movie on VHS when I was younger, if anything I always thought that from Batman 89, the earlier seasons of the animated series and returns did coexist nicely since the atmosphere does match and follow in a beautiful flow, from character developments *and yes, watching the penguin did scare me when I was younger, 😂😂, I thought penguins were killer birds, don't ask* and I do agree about your overall moral, every superhero movie have its fair share of strengths and weaknesses, especially in some cases where one side prevails over the other, now 😂😆 because I played the snes game, I thought the violence was fine in the movie, it made for good action scenes. I'm happy to hear your thoughts on the Tim Burton Batman movies since I find them enjoyable to watch no matter what reason it may be. Now my question to you is this: have you played any of the Batman returns games on anything? Aside from me growing up with the snes game, I actually did try the nes game in recent years, I thought the nes game was fine *konami Batman era games 🙂❤❤ truly some good stuff, however I love the konami tmnt games more 😂😂😆🙂 I apologize for getting a bit off topic here, but regardless, great job j, wishing you the best of success and more, you are the true dark knight *quoting the ending to the Batman returns snes game*

The Burton Duology Is Better Than The The 1995 - 1997 Duology, I Don't Remember His Name Well.

21:36 I disagree, Batman Forever was definitely about something, and it's right there in the title. Will Bruce be Batman forever?

I grew up watching 80's and 90's action and/or adventure films where I understood the Bad Guys needed to be killed in order to permanently stop them. Batman being violent and lethal made sense to me because he was only stopping the Bad Guys.

I honestly didn't care that Batman killed people sure not killing is the core of his character but he killed in the golden age DCEU and other universes aldo Superman killed in golden age too so Batman killing people in 1989 and Returns didn't bother me what did bother me though was Penguin's sudden change of evil plans first he wants to find his parents and become mayor only to then try to kill new borns it's very confusing and counterproductive also i didn't like that Joker killed Batman's parents either plus i couldn't stand the Prince songs they were just too silly for my taste.

Would be amazing to see ya cover other bat cartoons ya haven't shown like 2004 the batman or batman the brave and the bold mate

Batman Returns. Violent movie what are you kidding me look at the Dark Knight Trilogy.