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The Canucks Sign Two MUTANTS On Defence! 

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If there is one thing clear about Rick Tocchet hockey, its that he covets big defensemen! Patrik Allvin and Jim Rutherford have done an excellent job of cornering the market on these mutants, from Carson Soucy, to Nikita Zadorov, and now Derek Forbort plus Vincent Desharnais! However, size on the back end does not always equal competence. In this video, I break down the positives and negatives of each of the Canucks new defensemen!

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@TheBluelineHockey
@TheBluelineHockey Месяц назад
What are your thoughts on these two signings? Other than Zadorov, is there anyone you would have rather signed?
@Canucksnate
@Canucksnate Месяц назад
Desharnais signing is definitely overpayment I would rather signed Dillon
@remimk
@remimk Месяц назад
Crosby. But thats cuz I'm a filthy casual 😅
@beastmodebrown3556
@beastmodebrown3556 Месяц назад
@@Canucksnate dillon sign for double the price with NJ
@Canucksnate
@Canucksnate Месяц назад
@@beastmodebrown3556 at least we didn’t sign edmundson
@tommyjack6425
@tommyjack6425 Месяц назад
This team is being built for Rick Tocchet. So I trust the process. As well they have Adam Foote and Sergei Gonchar, two Stanley Cup champions coaching the defensive end. I believe they can mold anyone into the player they need.
@iXShadow
@iXShadow Месяц назад
Exactly, look at Myers. Went from a liability to an asset
@conservativeamber1216
@conservativeamber1216 Месяц назад
Need a better Puck moving D Man in our 3rd pairing unless Foote does wonders with these two which I believe he will improve them a little
@samjam6989
@samjam6989 Месяц назад
​@@conservativeamber1216no need for puck moving dman o. 3rd pairing. The 3rd pair will play PK and 5 minutes of 5 on 5. 45 minutes will be distributed on top 4 with Hughes getting 25 minutes or more as our Norris defenseman. Deharnais and Forbort are for PK mainly, frees up Myers and Soucy for more 5 on 5 play
@hunt4020
@hunt4020 Месяц назад
Rutherford and Allvin are playing Moneypuck and doing quite well at it.
@christhornycroft3686
@christhornycroft3686 Месяц назад
Given that their options were resign Zadorov and ice a very thin team especially on defence, they did very well. On a positive note, is any team going to look forward to coming to Vancouver or playing the Canucks in general? They're stocking up on painkillers before they get here. This team is going to hurt people - and they're pretty deep. DeBrusk is good for 25 goals in a down year without Pettersson and he's no slouch physically. Sure, Forbert and Desharnais aren't going to won anyone with either their offensive or defensive ability, but they're basically 6-7 guys who will be brutal to play against. That's what Allvin complained about when he first got here. That the Canucks were essentially soft. Now they have a coach who demands hard play and Allvin is assembling a roster that can hurt teams - both on the scoreboard and in other ways. Zadorov could do that too, but there's no way the Canucks should be paying a bottom pair D 6 million.
@TheBluelineHockey
@TheBluelineHockey Месяц назад
I’m also excited about the Sherwood signing, dude is a straight up menace.
@mikem237
@mikem237 Месяц назад
Completely agree with this
@zjsz4954
@zjsz4954 Месяц назад
⁠@@TheBluelineHockeySherwood will be a fan favourite
@mkultra5752
@mkultra5752 Месяц назад
Terrible idea not signing Z..these new players are slowww. And your info aint right. He wanted 5mil times 6 and The dolt alvin couldn't afford 300k more a season....this team aint going far bud. Or ever winning a cup forthat matter..no winning mentality
@darkvaderofjapan
@darkvaderofjapan Месяц назад
You want to pay 5 Mil x 6 for a 3rd pairing Dman in Zadorov ? Good thing you're not the GM 🤣​@@mkultra5752
@izumolee6714
@izumolee6714 Месяц назад
I think these 2 d-man can improve under the Tocchet coaching staff with Adam Foote & Sergei Gonchar. Look at what they did with Tyler Myers making a player the fans wanting to ship out ASAP to being a very solid 2nd pairing. They took Hronek who was a decent player and made the him one of the elite d-man alongside a Norris winner in Hughes. No doubt this coaching staff can get the best out of these guys as well.
@mikem237
@mikem237 Месяц назад
Subscribed. Quite impressed with the depth of your analysis and the brevity. Keep up the great work.
@TheBluelineHockey
@TheBluelineHockey Месяц назад
Thanks so much!
@Someduderandom1
@Someduderandom1 Месяц назад
sad to see desharnais go, but good luck at the canucks
@healthcaredotgov3097
@healthcaredotgov3097 Месяц назад
I honestly have faith in these guys, and Juulsen could easily slip in next to one of these guys. I wouldn't be surprised if Myers were brought down to 3rd paring to help out Forbort during normal play tbh. All in all, while there are some hiccups, I like this. Some real playoff-ready physicality.
@grizzlycanuk8622
@grizzlycanuk8622 Месяц назад
As an Oiler fan l am sad to see Vinny go but l get it, you are 29 years old and you gotta take care of yourself financially. I know Vinny wanted to work something out but it's a business right? Canuk fans you are getting a really good defenseman with a huge reach. Great team guy who plays smart. You guys lost Zaborov who l thought was over rated and the replacements are better team guys. Vinny l think will become a fan favorite there . Gl and thx for your play in Edmonton.
@Kmn55650
@Kmn55650 Месяц назад
Tocchet and the top management want a team that's no fun to play against, so I think with Tocchet, Foote and Gonchar teaching their system, they can hopefully improve both players short comings. If not, they'll be on the Kuzmenko train that leaves town. And, with the addition of Sherwood and DeBrusk, the toughness factor is even higher. Both players can also find the net. This current lineup shouldn't be too much fun to face. I liked the comment, the visiting teams will be stocking up on pain killers. Ha ha. Couldn't agree more!
@mshat18
@mshat18 Месяц назад
As a Bruins fan I'll tell you that Forbort is amazing at killing penalties. Everything else not so much. But as a bottom third sixth defenseman he's not too bad.
@Kenny_Mars
@Kenny_Mars Месяц назад
Thanks bud. You're going to love Zadoroff. He's a monster, very deceptive speed and he's getting better. I enjoyed watched the Bruins last year, keep pounding the Maple laughs 😃
@Orion-oo9jv
@Orion-oo9jv Месяц назад
Absolutely gutted to see deharnais go, but seeing the 2 mill price tag is why for sure. And redeeming qualities? That height, reach, commitment to the team and the system and he's more of a two way than defensive def. He does make mistakes and stumbles, but I think that is the inexperience, just give him minutes and a great linemate. This 2 mill is like a projection of his potential value, so 1 year makes sense so he can be given these minutes. Sad to see him go, especially to a rival but all the more reason to watch the Canucks. Proud of edm and vinni!
@Kenny_Mars
@Kenny_Mars Месяц назад
As a Canuck fan I hated him because he's a beast when he's angry, naturally I wanted him on the Canucks, and voilà 😂
@TheKisj
@TheKisj Месяц назад
I hope vinny does well for vancouver
@ameetsooch1460
@ameetsooch1460 Месяц назад
Just look at how Tocchet, Foote and Gonchar transformed Tyler Myers game. He wasn't worth a bag of Pucks his first 5 season in Van. Last season he was stellar and heavily trusted by coaching staff.
@Kenny_Mars
@Kenny_Mars Месяц назад
The one thing you don't address is heart. These guys will do whatever to protect teammates and Tockett will get the best out of them.
@pneudmatic
@pneudmatic Месяц назад
Good content. I like hearing both the upside and downside of a players.
@cwp2580
@cwp2580 Месяц назад
Love your videos! Great work. Very informative.
@TheBluelineHockey
@TheBluelineHockey Месяц назад
Thanks! Content coming all summer!
@jeremyrhansen6637
@jeremyrhansen6637 Месяц назад
I wouldn't mind seeing Soucy with one and Myers with the other and have both pairings split the non Hughes Hronek minutes!?
@conservativeamber1216
@conservativeamber1216 Месяц назад
Canucks needs still 1.Still need a Puck moving D Man in our Third pairing unless they split Hronek and Hughes up 2.A Top 6 Forward as well Boqvist is an option Schultz is another option but years ago he had a chance to sign with Vancouver but declined only to sign with Guess who...Our Enemies Edmonton Oilers I trust Rutherford though
@omfg322
@omfg322 Месяц назад
Honestly i saw this commet somewhere else buts its spot on. Alvin hand picked players who look like toccet style players and will improve greatly under him. Canucks forward core got alot deeper and the dcore at worst stays the same and at best, will be hell to play against
@stinkfinger630
@stinkfinger630 Месяц назад
Brendan Dillon would have been a better option. I talked to him at 8 rinks once and he wanted to play here. He’s tough, reliable, and smart. Forbert is a mistake: I remember when he chased Hoglander around gooning him!
@samjam6989
@samjam6989 Месяц назад
Dillon is better but costs 2.5 mil more. Forbort is here as an elite PKer. We have juulsen if there is injury
@markfeland2285
@markfeland2285 Месяц назад
Sad to see Vinny leave the Oilers, expected him to go to Montreal if anywhere
@zjsz4954
@zjsz4954 Месяц назад
I’m a little concerned with the bottom pair but improving the forward core had to come from somewhere. It would have been nice to get someone like carrier but I can see what they’re going for here
@lukepanel8656
@lukepanel8656 Месяц назад
I hope they work out but if they don’t they are replaceable, remember when we were signing guys like this for our top pairing? Feels like 1st world problems
@Mechstalol
@Mechstalol Месяц назад
Was gonna get an oilers Vinny D jersey, might have to get a nucks one instead
@dronemachine4694
@dronemachine4694 Месяц назад
😂😂Forbort is absolutely not a mutant. Boston fans have wanted that guy shot out of a canon for years, you’re gonna hate him lol.
@jugaloking69dope58
@jugaloking69dope58 Месяц назад
got poolman on ltir, they dont use ltir till the start of the season (opening day roster )so...
@brodynaknakim5541
@brodynaknakim5541 Месяц назад
Did you say branstrom is right handed?
@Mark-kr5go
@Mark-kr5go Месяц назад
I think Desharnais can improve to become a slightly worse Zadorov with the help of our coaching team, but Forbort seems too risky to bank on given his injury history. Good thing he is only signed for a year.
@glenw-xm5zf
@glenw-xm5zf 29 дней назад
I KNEW Z would end up in Boston
@sootchh4055
@sootchh4055 Месяц назад
If any of these new d-men fails, I wonder if Jett Woo might have a shot at being called up?
@TheBluelineHockey
@TheBluelineHockey Месяц назад
Ooo, interesting. I actually didn’t even think of that. I’d love to see him have a good summer and get a shot. Maybe he can be a Perbix type, breaks into the league at an older age.
@sootchh4055
@sootchh4055 Месяц назад
@@TheBluelineHockey I only brought him up because his dad Larry was one of the players who appeared in our favorite hockey movies "Goon"😁
@casketbrain7697
@casketbrain7697 Месяц назад
The Team Also Got Tougher
@glenw-xm5zf
@glenw-xm5zf 29 дней назад
IN the post seasson, Big Z was our best D man 4g 4 a. We have a history of losing our best players. and I really liked Luke Schenn
@tylerm727
@tylerm727 Месяц назад
IMO the team didn’t rlly get that much better or worse, slight improve offensively, slightly got worse at the back end. For them to seriously be contenders think the team needs to trade for another top 6 winger and top 4 puck moving dman ie Vatrano and Marcus Pettersson as realistic options. I’d be ok with trading away a 1st as we are currently in our cup window, along with Hoglander and podz if they don’t elevate their game this year
@TheBluelineHockey
@TheBluelineHockey Месяц назад
I agree, they kinda went sideways.
@Vjurrtuiii
@Vjurrtuiii Месяц назад
two for the price of 1 I like it
@SouPNaZi316
@SouPNaZi316 Месяц назад
Forborts metric PK is 99
@kenegilsson1362
@kenegilsson1362 Месяц назад
Canucks just got slower and weaker on defence
@Starrynova
@Starrynova Месяц назад
Better than their D at the start of the season. The only loss was Zadorov.
@LinksterTheGoat
@LinksterTheGoat Месяц назад
Hi😊
@good2goskee
@good2goskee Месяц назад
1:43 Thumbs-down for calling a slap shot a "clapper". Come on MAN this is Canada! We don't need some US basketball commentator spin changing the hockey language (that's where clapper came from). we say Z (rhymes with ed) we spell it colour (not color) we say slap shot....never clapper (OMG that's lame)
@fredbrandl880
@fredbrandl880 Месяц назад
Pretty weak defence now. Debrusk is streaky probably better in the playoffs. The real issue here is Pettersson if he plays like he did in the last half of the year we’re in trouble.
@glennthomson1828
@glennthomson1828 Месяц назад
Mutants???
@TheBluelineHockey
@TheBluelineHockey Месяц назад
It’s a reference to the X-Men and their superpowers, not meant as an insult.
@glennthomson1828
@glennthomson1828 Месяц назад
Thanks for saying. It’s good video.
@chrispetrelis5013
@chrispetrelis5013 Месяц назад
I AM A BRUINS FAN AND FORBORT IS NOT A MUTANT. IN FACT HE IS THE OPPOSITE. HE IS A LIABILTY ON THE ICE, HE IS NOT PHYSICAL , CANNOT PLAY AGAINST OTHER TEAMS TOP 6 AND ADDS ZERO OFFENSE. WHEN HE BECAME HEALTHY HE WAS BENCHED IN THE PLAYOFFS BECAUSE HIS DECISION MAKING WAS AWFUL. HE IS AT BEST A NUMBER 6 DEFENSEMAN ON A TEAM THAT BARELY MAKES THE PLAYOFFS AND A HEALTHY SCRATCH FOR A TEAM WITH HIGH ASPIRATIONS. GLAD HE IS NO LONGER A BRUIN
@TheBluelineHockey
@TheBluelineHockey Месяц назад
WHY ARE WE YELLING
@chrispetrelis5013
@chrispetrelis5013 Месяц назад
@@TheBluelineHockey SHUT UP WITH THE STUPID REMARK BECAUSE I TYPED IIN CAPS. GO PLAY IN TRAFFIC
@anathamon
@anathamon Месяц назад
VERY LOUD NOISES!!!
@pawoutdoors9290
@pawoutdoors9290 26 дней назад
Pylons
@new_user6969
@new_user6969 Месяц назад
😂 professor X
@Mr.BillyJoeMcAllister
@Mr.BillyJoeMcAllister Месяц назад
Juulsen is a better Dman than Desharnais. Forbort is a healthy Poolman 2.0!
@The-Dom
@The-Dom Месяц назад
Oilers PP destroyed everybody including the Canucks. seems like a bit of an over reaction to focus so much on PK when their own PP is even worse.
@Kenny_Mars
@Kenny_Mars Месяц назад
DeBrusk
@marknelson3561
@marknelson3561 Месяц назад
Z was overrated. Less points than Myers and got suspended just another dirty player that will cause problems in Boston.
@af-np4pg
@af-np4pg Месяц назад
The Canucks went forward with Zadorov, then once again literally counted their pennies and let him go. Their defence is big but slow, and McDavid and Stamkos will skate circles around them. Hughes is not a defenseman but does everything else. Not going to win cup in 2025.
@ultranate8618
@ultranate8618 Месяц назад
Zadorov really? So are we going to see another 8 years of losing yet again. The trade is BS and sucks. Why not get rid of Myers he sucks. Why do we get rid of all the good talent? What's next trade Demko for Quick maybe.
@mkultra5752
@mkultra5752 Месяц назад
Luke was right Canucks suck. And like the sabres they will never win a cup..alvin is a dolt, The owners are a joke don't spend money on marquis players..lindh9lm/zadorov/ their best players in playoffs and wont sign them is proof of there incompetence. Wouldnt give Z an extra 300k to stay? Owners dont have winning mentality and never spend. Dont say the cap, they can make room. The best forward theyve had in 30 years is marcus naslund..messier didnt count..its a loser franchise for a loser city. Luke was right. Managing money doesnt win cups spending does
@kaptaan_original
@kaptaan_original Месяц назад
Have you heard of Pavel Bure?
@kaptaan_original
@kaptaan_original Месяц назад
You're from Surrey @TheBluelineHockey??
@LibDestroyer-nd7mi
@LibDestroyer-nd7mi Месяц назад
Desharnea cannot skate ...
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