The Car That Took Down Porsche 

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It's' funny how cigarette company sponsors, made for the best-looking liveries: Silk Cut, John Player Special, Rothmans, Marlboro, etc.

Jaguar actually kickstarted the most colorful era after Porsche dominance with flat-sixes, having NA V12 (Jaguar), Twin-Turbo V8 (Benz), Rotary (Mazda), F1 spec V10 (Peugeot) winning Le Mans during that time was remarkable

The XJR9 is my personal favourite Group C car, got to see the iconic Le Mans 88 winning car at the British Motor Museum a few years ago.

Managed to attend numerous IMSA races in the 80’s and early 90’s. Not only were Jaguar and Porsche involved but Toyota, Nissan, Ford, GM all fielded prototypes. Not to mention the GTO and GTU classes with numerous different manufacturers. Hell of a lot of great racing in this series over the years and recent years as well

I love that I can instantly notice and point out what was in the old video's script. But I really like the new video as well. Keep it up, you're one of those people who upload and I instantly stop doing whatever I'm doing and watch.

Awesome video once again dude! Jaguar’s story at taking the fight in Group C is legendary, especially with achieving two wins in the era at the 24 hours of Le Mans!

The Imperial College shoutout caught me off guard! I'm doing a masters in mechanical engineering there currently. Great vid as always!

Yeah, obsession with long tails could become a problem in some circumstances.

The Ford C100 Mk 3 sounds like a neat topic for a video.

I really like your videos. I grew up with the Gran Turismo games and the Le Mans races on Eurosport. It is very interesting to learn more about these fascinating cars. Plus your pleasant voice and passionate nature. Keep up the good work!

Jaguar needs to win 12 le mans races more to match the glory of Porsche, and 13 to dethroned.

Love the jag group c cars, Especially that XJR-14, that's for the high quality videos!

While the XJR9 was an incredibly gifted racing car, I cant be alone in thinking it’s very strange looking. The C9 and 962 were far more aesthetically pleasing in my opinion

You're really good at this man..

Everyone knows the thing that made Jaguar faster was the Silk Cut livery ☺️👌

I was at Mid-Ohio the year Jaguar won Le Man and was making demo laps during the IMSA weekend. Since it was a Mid-Ohio race weekend it was raining (of course it was raining). Brundle did insane laps with glorious noise and huge rooster tails!

Man! Your videos are so well done. I’m a big fan of racing, but I still learn new things from your videos.

For me the XJR14 is the most beautiful Le Mans car in history. Fantastic shape, livery, even sound. And I’m a life long Ferrari F1 fan.

Love the depth these videos go into

No words about the contorversial finish of the 1988 23:58min of LeMans? If the race would go the full distance and lasted 1 Lap longer, the Porsche would have taken the win. Because the Jaguar was limping.

Such a good video. Great job, going through your other vids.

Been watching for abit. Love your vocals, storytelling, and facts. But I would say, KEEP IT GOING, nice young man. You have brought to my attention stuff that when it was happening, slipped past me. Thank you.

Great move with that BetterHelp ad, yet you with your voice could go and work with them surely - it's ultra calming and relaxing!

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Ah yes the 80s, the best decade in motor racing history! Not just the gorgeous Group C cars but the incredible turbo powered F1 cars, the totally bonkers Group B rally cars, the ridiculous Paris Dakar rally cars and bikes (when it actually was Paris to Dakar) and the incredible American domination of the 500cc grand prix bikes!

Yay a new awesome video once again !🎉

Man im glad to see this channel grow.. you have a better content than most main stream channels😂😂😂 keep up the great work 👍

Thank you for this video! Great footage and information that is TV documentary quality.

As a french man I love your cotenent and the way you tell racing stories ! The English accent may also play a role... 👍

I swear you came out the womb with this buttery smooth documentary voice

what an era! great video 👍

That one special optical Feature of that car and many others after it i recognized: the rear wing is apart mounted and after all behind to the backside of the car and not above of it!

I remember my dad buying a gallon of oil in the early 90s and it had a model of this jag on the box

Great job mate 👏🏻👏🏻

The research knowledge and content of this channel is absolutely fantastic

Well Done. Bravo!

A very fine video. You present very well and have a fine speaking voice. It’s wonderful to hear an historic talk delivered grammatically correctly in the past tense. Keep up the good work. Very best wishes, Adrian

The XJR9 car was the next generation Group C car. It made the 962 obsolete. A bit like the 917 did with the GT40.

Good stuff! I watched the Jaguars throughout the IMSA GTP days race at Mid-Ohio. The GTP days were magical watching all the manufacturers beating the hell out of each other each week. Mid-Ohio was packed to the hilt for the IMSA GT weekends with SCCA Trans-Am series racing too. It was a race fans dream weekend actually. Trans-Am back then was also a manufacturers battlefield. I see those battlefields starting back up next year with GT/Hypercar/Prototype again....can't wait! Multiple manufacturers racing each other is the best.

Love these videos. These videos are much appreciated while im up with my new born son :) keep up the great work

Gratz on 50k

my first racing game was gt3, and i instantly fell in love with group c, the jag, minolta toyota, saubers and the mazda were my favs, but this looks the best with its covered rear tires

Great content. One correction though... the XJR-16 was developed by TWR USA for use specifically in IMSA GTP. The design ethos was maximum downforce, at the expense of aerodynamic efficiency. TWR considered this most appropriate for the IMSA GTP tracks of the time... mostly street circuits and high downforce tracks like Laguna Seca and Lime Rock. The high downforce, high drag design would have been ineffective on the smooth, longer circuits of Europe. The keen eyed among you will point out that the XJR-16 won at Road Atlanta and Road America in 1991 - both tracks that emphasize straight line speed (especially Road America). I have no response for this...

I am a lucky man went to every LeMans from 87 to 91 and 95 for the XJ220 also every Silverstone, Brands Hatch & Donnington 1000km oh & a Spa race, during this period. Don’t know if I missed this point & I know it isn’t part of your subject but every year Jaguar won LeMans they also won the Daytona 24 hrs a few months before. Some people have commented that the Jag engine was the worst in group C. The whole point was jaguar cars wanted their cars to race with an engine that actually came out of their road cars! It worked I owned a BRG V12 XJS for years. Oh at Brands Hatch they raced one car with a 48 valve engine (normally the V12 is only 24 valve) they found out it was far to top heavy and went with the V6 turbo engine.

I had no clue about the XJR-11. Great video as always 😎😎

very good video as usual!

Love your videos please make more and more and more❤

I saw one of these variants in a museum as a kid and it looked like a spaceship going 1000mph standing still!....Awesome machines...

Always loved the jag. Even my favourite on my scalextric set

Silk Cut were awful cigarettes, had to wrap the sticky part of a rizla paper over the holes to make them worth smoking That V12 Jag tho

Less goooo new upload

If anything this showed that glory days of sports cars brought drivers, engineers and team principals we all think are F1 personal. As always brilliant video👌🏼

Hey man, your WSC/WEC videos are fantastic! The other videos are awesome too, but I really really enjoy these! I dread the day you've done them all and we won't have any more of them 😅 but I think there was a mistake in this one, @16:04 isn't that Sauber a V8? At least I always thought it was!

Great vid, thanks. Many thungs i didnt know

Alpine A443 is one car that not many know about, would be nice if you made a video about it

the thumbnail is amazing

Very good video explaining some of the lesser well-known characteristics of the Jag Group C cars. Thanks for that! I might add a couple of observations, happy to discuss those of course! First off, increasing engine displacement for the XJR-8 was less because of more top-end power, but for increased torque across a wider rev spectrum. This had a similar effect to what Mercedes were doing with their low-boost V8s. This lowered average fuel consumption, which was so critical in Group C. You can also observe the massive advances in carbon fiber technology during the mid-80s. Porsche actually looked at a CF chassis when designing the 956, but decided against it because they didn’t see a lot of advantages at that stage. Just a couple of years later though, it was evident that the conventional aluminum chassis couldn’t stand a chance against the newly designed Jag chassis - not just because of its lower weight, but because it could handle the increased load of that massive downforce you mentioned. And let’s not forget one crucial piece of the puzzle here. Yes, Tony Southgate‘s design was excellent in terms of chassis strength and aerodynamic refinement. Arguably though, Tom Walkinshaw‘s uncanny ability to bend the rules right up to the breaking point, and doing naughty things when nobody was looking, was even more important for TWR‘s success.

That Porsche achieved success in their first year in GrpC, whereas TWR took 3 years to get the championship, and 4 to get Le Mans, is an indicator of 2 things: 1. Porsche did really well out of the box 2. The bar to succeed in GrpC after Porsche got there was far higher than in the beginning. Once they got it together, they were fantastic, but then Sauber caught up and surpassed them. They did fundamentally elevate the level of the game, though.

I began to follow Jag after I saw and heard the 85 entry, they had me hooked from there.

And the porsche werent factory supported at the end of the 80s.

All the information here is correct! Congratulations for your research.

awsome video also can you do one for the porsche 919

New video, awesome! 👌🏻🗿🍷

Where do you get all that footage? I want to watch some classic group c footage.

May you please consider a story on the Mark 1 Ford Escort rally cars and/or the 1992 Group C Lola?

Jaguar makes some of the most beautiful cars on the planet, me dream car is an XJS V12 i love the sound of a british V12

Take a shot every time he says “jaguar” and “Le Mans”

where are your posts in the background of ur setup from

Jaguar cheated to win the 1988 Le Mans. During the night, they brought in the lead car into the pits of one of the other 5 that dropped out, got that one extra tank of fuel to keep ahead of the 962C #17 which was relentlessly reeling it in lap-after-lap (especially during the rain, like 3-7 seconds a lap). I worked with the same mechanic I met at the race (I did an engineering stint for Porsche North America) from Jaguar. 1 year later he's at Jim Busby's IMSA team(Laguna Beach CA) who campaigned 962's in the US. He confirmed what was suspected all along (and I wonder WHY he looked so glum after the race at the celebration party...he KNEW that 'win' was as fake as a 3-dollar bill)). Today, with camera's/eyes everywhere, that wouldn't happen. - In hindsight, like the F40, whereas Jaguar debuted the XJ220 as a failed response to the 959(of which every car on the planet now has some it's DNA), the XJ220(which REALLY sucked) is but now a forgotten asterisk in history.

I saw the Bud light Jag at Lime Rock Park. That car cut 2 seconds off the record. You could hear that engine HOWL from all the way on the backstretch. It beat everyone that year.😊

Where do you get those posters?

Legendary Jag Did it have Ground Effects?

I think the gtp cars of the 80s were so much better looking than the current cars

Unlikely it may be, would love to see Jaguar return in WEC hypercar class.

This car was a menace in Grandturismo 4..IYKYK🎉

Cheers! 👍💪✌

Your videos suits your hair, man. Very 80s. Awesome!!!

Love these videos about le mans and the golden era of sports cars with group C! Great job as always :) also makes me so happy that Hypercar is here and so far seems to have the potential to bring the top class of sportscars/WEC back into the limelight, wonder if in 20-30 years time we'll talk about it in the same way we're still captivated by group c now? :)

What’s with the weird sunglasses inside lol 😂😂😂

Good stuff. Keep it up, okay ?

Interesting to note that the Joest Porsche that won at LeMans in 1997 was a TWR designed chassis. Okay-okay I'll have fo fact check..... 😅

Yeah that's right 😅

If you get a chance you should take a look at Toyota's rise to dominance in IMSA during this same period, they went from being also midpack also ran's in the late 80's too being so dominant in '92 and '93 that they won back to back titles with the AAR Eagle Mk III despite IMSA actually introducing special rules for them that limited their turbo boost and forced them to run a high downforce set up at every race in '93. In '93 they won every race except for the road america event, and that was only because they were unable to participate due to toyota deciding to boycott the race since they weren't happy with how they were being treated.

13:45 song?

Somehow the imsa Porsches figured the tunnels out although nissan and jaguar were far better by that point than

huh funny how i was using this car in Gran Turismo 5 just a few days ago

That's an er unusual pronunciation of Peugeot.

Shall we talk about the 1988 Fuel cheat with the expansion bottles?

Songs used?

Where Porsche win in the big picture is that they compete year after year, they are always competing. Ford, Jaguar et al may beat them a few times but they don't persist like Porsche do which has established them as the performance car to have. Besides Porsche sell cars similar to most of their racers, the pretend competitors usually don't so what's the point. It's a pity that at least one of the big car companies don't persist in their racing.

monstrous 7L V12 vs tiny 3L flat 6 and they cant even beat them in top speed in their first iteration? How do you pull that one?

Just wondering, why did they opt for an NA engine instead of turbos? I doubt that was an accident

F50gt1 please 🙏 😢

About 8 minutes in ~ I have one real question about this car. The engine was a large naturally aspirated V12. It was derived from the V12 in the road-going Jag cars of that era. Fine. Now, I am an aviation and flying nerd, have been for well over 50 years. I don't know about today, so much, but from the mid '70s through about 2000, we heard a constant stream of horror stories about people building home-built planes in the garage, which were 2/3 scale replicas of Spitfires and Hurricanes, and sometime something else like a Mustang, but usually Spitfires. Word at the time, born out by a tragically large data set, was that if you decided to give up the V12 sound and the 'pure British tradition & heritage' and made your plane with a Chev V8, that was more or less acceptable, and with a little bit of work, it could have the cooling system upgraded to be more than acceptable. We got the Aluminium LS motors and they were great. But ~ tragic part, if you used a V12 Jag motor, didn't matter what you did with it or how you modified it, the cooling system simply wasn't up to being used as an aircraft engine. They would & could & did overheat and stop, often violently. They killed people, dozens of people, over a 30 year period. Now my question, right in the middle of this period, Jaguar went racing in Group-C and won a world championship, and won Le Mans. So ~ the engine in the Le Mans Jag can't be the same engine that doesn't work in home-built aircraft, right? Well ~ as far as I can work out, it is. So [head scratch] WTF??? How come that engine is completely acceptable in a 24 hour endurance racing car, but complete amateur hour in a home-built plane?

This feels like a remaster of the original XJR-9 vid with more information

o__o yo

Hi

Very easy, with a 7-liter naturally aspirated V12 engine (760 HP), against a 2.65-liter biturbo (956) (620HP) or a 2.86 l. also biturbo (962) (680 HP), it's obvious that the difference in power is noticeable on the track. Then the Mercedes C9 and C11 would arrive with a 5.0-liter biturbo V8 (street car Mercedes E-500 engine) that exceeded 800 HP and that achieved 407 km/h in Les Hunadieres, that it would be the fastest and most powerful. From then on the regulations would put an end to turbo engines and only naturally aspirated engines were allowed, generally coming from Formula 1 with 3.5 liters of displacement limit such as the Jaguar XJR 14 (with a Ford HB engine like the Benetton F1 of the time) and the Mercedes C291 with a 3.5 liter V12 that wasn't competitive at all. Peugeot 905 would also debut at that time with Jean Todt's team, which had left rallies and debuted a naturally aspirated V10 that would later compete in F1 without much success, but only as an engine builder. At that time Jean Todt asked to join the lion constructor as a team in Formula 1 (chassis and engine) to which Peugeot refused, ending up Jean Todt to sign for Ferrari at the time of Michael Schumacher, Ross Brawn and Rory Byrne in Ferrari's succesfulest era in F1.

As usual f1 tried to destroy motorsport• long live to hypercar and show that endurance is worth it•