'The Case Against Bryan Kohberger' | A Court TV Original Special 

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I think you are bias asf. You spread propaganda, knowing people are followers who cannot think for themselves.

Guilty.

Guilty on all's the count

She had moved? Dropped out? Changed schools? Details? She was only 21, just turned 21 too, i think. Too young to graduate with a bachelor's, isn't it?

She was still living there. She had been home but went back early.

She came up to visit to show Maddie the car.😢

I had my bachelors degree at 20. But I am from Switzerland. I gradated high school at 17, did my bachelors (3 years here)....@@DJ-GASM

That's what kinda makes me think she was the target. I think those girls shared way too much on social media.

So maybe it was him 🤷🏼‍♀️ but maybe it wasn’t…

Also also, what would motivate a person to get up at 4am to transfer their own garbage wearing latex gloves and transferring some of it to multiple neighbors’ garbage bins…. ? Seriously who the F does that ?? 🤷🏾‍♀️ what would motivate anyone to do such an absurd thing ? The circumstancial evidence is very compelling !

You made not one reasonable point out of that paragraph u wrote 😅😅 kohberger is innocent and it’s being proven literally in our faces and u sickos is mad the truth is coming out 😅😅😅😅

A good prosecutor could poke holes. The only thing sinking him is the sheath he left there, really. What an idiot to do that. Everyone makes mistakes, even if they plan it perfectly.

@@angel.samadhi and the knife sheath with his dna on it that was found at the crime scene how would you explain that?

Go to Chris Mc Donagh The Interview Room with his guest. You may find your answer there. Excellent video

Yeah, something is not coming to light here- it's not adding up.

I think he's a psychopath and wanted to get away with the perfect murder..

Do you know why its confusing its because that night they were all wasted. Maybe they already lay unconscious by what they always doing. The cops came to that house a lot. Their partying were till early hours. Guys came and went from this house all hours. That is why the room mates thought its just another guy in the house. Did you see the body cam videos of disturbances they caused. Ever week.

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@@merarigomez6835 Yes, she was able to identify the guy! My daughter was a med tech for a assisted living care facility! He worked for the contractor doing work n the house! She was able to get away, and she ran to her car and called me, and I left work to drive an hour to her! To be with her! We called the cops and they were great with her, and her fiancee! They even brought a social worker that deals with those kind of things! We went to court, and even his lawyer realized he was a BOS! So, he had to pay for a sexual assault class, over 2 grand, and a restraining order, along with Jail time! ( Even though I went looking for him anyway! ) I was fit to be tied! So was her fiancee! But thankfully it worked out the way it did! Bc, I most likely would still be locked up if I would have found him!! This is another reason it's really hard to watch stories like this one! No woman deserves to be assaulted ever! Peace 🕊️

My prayers are with you brother I hope your daughter is okay and my prayers are with her as well❤

​@@merarigomez6835wtf is a girl with " a low social value"? A value according to who? You say " a r@pist makes a mistake"?? NO person deserves to be r@ped. It is NEVER ok under ANY circumstance to sexually assault anyone.

I have 5 daughters and man just reading this got my blood boiling and we all like to think what we would want to do if something like this happens . I’m so sorry that became your reality brother . I can’t fathom the hate you felt yet the fear you had to endure for your daughter as well . I’m sorry your family had to deal with that darkness .

@@doctorgoldbud1321 Thank You!

Me too

When is it

@@Kels-hf7xw Originally the trial was suppose to begin this past Oct. but now it most likely won't begin until the beginning of 2024. * Also, Kohberger waived his rights to a speedy trial so that can slow down the process and his counsel (Anne Taylor) is claiming that she wasn't given adequate time to prepare. This is also a death penalty case so I'm sure defense is dragging their feet. The only positive part is that the house where the victims were murdered will be demolished this month.

@@RobinMarconeCassidyRNthat sucks for the families

@@mangomonet2464 It sure does! They have to rehash that pain all over again and hear for the first time things that occurred that they didn't even know about. I can't even imagine. And who even knows how long this trial will take. Let's hope that the families will support one another throughout this nightmare.

I think it's a coping mechanism. They desperately cling to the happy memories to avoid a complete breakdown. 😢

Gonccalves family never miss an opportunity to cry infront fo the cameras. poor BK is guilty until proven innocent and that's not right

@@rootiyriddle636 🤡

@@rootiyriddle636 i'd like to see how much $$ they've received from all their interviews they are so willing to do.

@@rootiyriddle636 are u crazy

That’s what I say ..this generation cannot leave the house without it…they could be 1 minute to arriving to they’re job and they will turn around and be late to job to go back and get it instead of going a day without it till they get home…this dude is no different,why wouldn’t he leave the phone in his apartment the whole time? Society is trained to not go without it and these phones are tracking you..al” these social media sites were invented to make you addicted…so glad I grew up without this crap..we had a pager, and had to go to a pay phone to call friends… pretty stupid of people to think oh I’ll just turn off my phone a 1/2 hour before and turn it back on 1 hour later…duh, leaving the phone on and at home would be a better thing for Bryan , in a small way…and this dudes a criminology major?

It really is ridiculous.

The cell data only proves he was In The area !

Why does it baffle you? Criminals are dumb people.

@@antonycuff4512but why even give them that? But a cheap minute burner phone or leave your phone at home.

They are somehow supposed to find 12 people who haven't heard about the case to serve on the jury. I think Sweden has it right.

Sweden is a horrible country

@AlexandraK1 Sweden has a population of like 1000 people.

@@justinedse8435 Not quite. About 10,5 million.

@@justinedse8435 That’s a childish thing to say. And, anyway, it wouldn’t matter to the principle at stake here.

And he should be sentenced soon

I smell something weird. Don’t count on it being such as easy prosecution and the longer the amount of time that goes by the more like of an acquittal

@@chocolatewheelchair I tell some of what is the truth below in a comment to another comment. This case is full of lies, coverup and corruption. It's under a comment by: patralink. It is based on speculation and facts from lots of research.

An entire year already. It seems like yesterday. 4 beautiful, young, vibrant lives gone when they were really just beginning..🥀🥀🥀🥀💔🕊️

​@@chocolatewheelchair"I smell something weird..." Because your spidey sense are tingling, this must all be a conspiracy or frame-job huh? Or, they've got the wrong man or BK (a complete loner with no friends) must have had help...bc you have "feelings" 😂-? Luckily, the FBI, Idaho State Police, Moscow PD, and the DA moved forward with more than just "feelings". Just because you don't like the evidence used to arrest him & can't conceptualize that they have far more that won't come out until trial doesn't mean anything "weird" is happening. Do you have any idea how slowly murder cases move thru the system-?

Would anyone believed you?

@@user-pt4xx4wu2iyou can dig holes outside the house and cover them in sticks. Rig the house Home Alone style 😂

I know. I’ve seen so many videos of people in the moments before they disappear or murdered and it’s hard to watch. It’s so scary. Makes you definitely want to live life to the fullest. Every moment

I agree 😢

feel bad for Kohberger. he has zero interest in these party girls and had no idea who the F they are. but everyone keeps forcing BK to be in love with them, such an insult to BK

All the evidence was collected and photos were taken. There's nothing else they needed.

I agree. He seems so sweet and docile. Breaks my heart. These kids should be living their best lives right now. Such a tragedy.

Yea he looks so absolutely destroyed.

Spare a thought for the dad of the four victims' former roommate, Hannah Cleere. Do some proper research before shedding more tears for these 'beautiful, angelic' young women.

@@bdmc6583his daughter was brutally murdered what do you expect him to look like

@@thinkingallowed7042 you’re out of your mind. Regardless of what might have led to the murders, they didn’t deserve to be murdered and the parents of the 4 victims don’t deserve the lifelong suffering of losing a child. If you want to trigger someone or start a fight, you picked the wrong comment.

I'm not sure if he was just at Moscow

Yeah when you get too many coincidences they stop being coincidences.

1) the sample on the sheath was 1/100th of a nanogram - 12 cells or so. they didn’t use str, they used snp (which involves using pcr to amplify / replicate the dna and then gaps are filled in according to statistical patterns. the dates matter in this case, especially since the fbi did the igg in-house. if they were already looking at kohberger, than they could have easily (intentionally or not) filled in the gaps in the dna to match his. 2)yes, 4 people were killed. it is way more likely that someone they knew killed them. look at similar cases. why did it take so long for the surviving roommates to call 911? why was a latent footprint found (i.e. cleanup occurred)? 3)that tower provided a 25 square mile coverage. bryan lived within that radius. we are not talking about gps here - we are talking about pinging. 4)the video footage does not show bryan’s car at all. the state was initially looking for a 2011-13 elantra. there is a visible difference between a 2013 and a 2015 elantra. the state has no case. the argument that they are somehow “holding back the definitive evidence” is ridiculous - they have no reason to do this as it would put their entire case in jeopardy (just like withholding exculpatory evidence does). sorry, but your coincidences aren’t actually coincidences. i hope you are never falsely accused of a crime.

that’s not what they’re saying, but okay. 📚

@@happyaccidentxocome on who the hell else was it? Did Bundy know his victims? He happens to have everything lined up with what we know and yet it’s not him? Show me proof and maybe I’ll begin to buy it.

It wasn't about not solving it instantly, it was about the cops' pathetic public relations and the confusing, contradicting statements they put out.

@@kenbob1071 nah. It was people thinking they needed to know things they didn't.

​@@kenbob1071 why, were they supposed to hand out every bit of information they had, to warn their suspect!?! Disinformation and chaos can be a strategy.

How is it the next day from @ 4am to noon?

@@kenbob1071It’s called due process Ken. Nobody is entitled to getting information when they want.

Same. I really want to know if he's acquitted.

Same here, for one year, I’ve been watching everyday.

@@toddsmith1969hopefully

Same

@@toddsmith1969 No chance. The evidence is overwhelming already.

He wasn't in the house long enough for a 911 call to have saved any of them. He might have been caught faster, but they would still be gone.

No one could be saved because their injuries were deadly and the stabbings got their vital organs. The boy killed had his throat sliced... no chance of survival.

Gonccalves family never miss an opportunity to cry infront fo the cameras. poor BK is guilty until proven innocent and that's not right

dude, shut up you're a psychopath just like BK@@rootiyriddle636

Why do you think Xana and Ethan didn't call 911 while the 3rd floor murders were happening, presuming the 3rd floor murders occurred first?

Her arguments are so bad, but it was the eye roll that did it for me. She’s annoyed? Cool, ppl are dead, Shoulder Pads. Thank god for Vinny.

What no one has said in this video, I see as the main problem for this prosecution. If none of the victims’ dna 🧬 has been found in his car, his apartment, or his parents’ house, this prosecution will be extremely difficult because there was so much blood 🩸 in the victims’ house that it was even running outside down walls.. If they don’t have victims’ dna 🧬 tied to him…he walks and can never be tried again!

@@user-ks6fr8mh1uthat isn’t an unusual thing at all. Chances are this was a thoroughly thought out and premeditated attack, and let’s not forget this was a criminal law student who has more than likely studied how DNA is transferred or removed. It would be more shocking if they DID find the victims dna in his car or house considering we’ve already established that Brian is someone with the knowledge and capabilities to get away w a murder.

​@@user-ks6fr8mh1u why do you use dna and blood emoji after the words? Is it in case someone thinks blood and dna means something else?

And how can you take an idiot like her seriously when she looks like someone about to engage in a porn scene

They were just like anyone else. Ignorant and hormonal! Object might differ from person to person but desire is something we share in common with every other human being. Your whole life is steeped in hunting pleasures and through that fog you see the world around yourself because they all are same. No two trees are alike but you never really see a tree because you think you know what a tree is or what it looks like. You perception is never without the knowledge of the past experiences which never really last for more than a few seconds. Do you ever live or just spout words without paying any attention to them at all. Idiot.

Gonccalves family never miss an opportunity to cry infront fo the cameras. poor BK is guilty until proven innocent and that's not right

yes, these murders are full of rabbit holes. I'm waiting for the trial and the pieces of evidence they find because it's nearly impossible to decide if this guy did it or not just because of the accusation. Because I know deep down, there is more to know. Like witnessing the killer, got eye to eye, and lived to tell her story. Even if is not eye-to-eye, the killer 100% knew she was there but didn't care? So strange

They won't even be a memory. None of us will. Our anthropological dust will settle and history will be an esoteric mysticist's story between alien researchers.

I know what it's like since 2018.

@@debivanmarter🤍 so sorry for your loss 💔

@@debivanmarter I wish you didn’t… my heart hurts for you 🙏🏻😞

feel bad for Kohberger. he has zero interest in these party girls and had no idea who the F they are. but everyone keeps forcing BK to be in love with them, such an insult to BK

You have to believe very strongly in what the FBI and LE tell you. THEN YOU get your truth. :)

@@kaylaread8048 No I disagree with you, I will believe when I hear evidence presented, when I hear wittinesses speak, ABSOLUTELY not what MPD has ever stated in this case .. very odd FBI decides too return to the house of horrorsX4 where these heinous slaughters took place just shy of November 13 2022 … there is more too this gut wrenching crime than myself.. you or anyone knows

@@kaylaread8048huh?

​@@kaylaread8048😅

all evidence shows 2 roommates are txting each other and clean up for 8 hours after the murder. its sick the innocent KOhberger is dragged into this

People hate social awkwardness. Society is basically bullying Bryan for being different and want him to be guilty so that they can justify their hate for him.

@nillyk5671 His DNA was found on the sheath.

They have the correct person.

@@mewho8714 you dont know that ,,the evidence is miniscule ,,

​@@tinalyons3964k brian

Lol@@tinalyons3964 the evidence is overwhelming. Both direct and indirect. This kind of evidence is really solid. There aren't that many cases where the evidence is this good.

@@tinalyons3964 No, I know that for a fact. You don't know that because you didn't bother to look at the evidence critically. That's a decision you made but no one else is obligated to follow your example. Ignorance is a choice you made, not a condition inflicted upon us.

I agree to get justice the 4 victims but with the right responsible for the murders person!!!

@@KaBaMaRu_ I think they have the right person.

@@Saintsrockitall there are so many holes at this case and im not 100% sure that Bryan did this.

No, it wasn't well done. This "docu" is riddled with biased and more importantly very false information. This is actually very terribly done. So little fact checking was done that it bogles the mind how this got an OK to be uploaded.

Gonccalves family never miss an opportunity to cry infront fo the cameras. poor BK is guilty until proven innocent and that's not right

He said it. In the beginning. Then he changed his mind. Why? Maybe he knows it from the beginning. If you think logical, you have to think, he had a hunch. Nothing makes sense, except the frats.

Me too maybe he knows it was supposed to be just xana there was a hit on her

There is no license plate to prove its bryan no pic of him it’s a white alantra a lot of people drive that

Xana and Ethan were the targets stemming from the fight earlier that night. They didn't have to go upstairs

Do those same ppl have their DNA on the knife sheath, turn their phone on and off during and before the crimes? Are they women haters? The evidence is there and so much more will come out at trial. And as Steve said if he's not personable that's on him. He is who he is. Jurors will judge the facts/evidence.

Amen to that 🙏 😢

I was drilling my doors and windows shut that night. It was terrifying but nothing like what these beautiful kids must of went through . What a monster that could do this

You know what’s even more scary? They’re still out there living life. But so long as everyone feels safe, they don’t care if they have the right person.

wtf? why would you be scared? this comment is so cringe.

all evidence shows 2 roommates are txting each other and clean up for 8 hours after the murder. its sick the innocent KOhberger is dragged into this

@@Hello-ig1px you’re attitude is cringe. You would throw all your rights and the rights of others away so long as YOU feel “safe”. 🙄

Good point !

He was driving around before the murders, i think he was scouting the area

The affidavit didn’t say that the reason she didn’t call 911 is because she was in a frozen shock phase…it merely said she was in a frozen shock phase. The purpose of the affidavit was not to defend Dylan. Also people say that she thought nothing of it but that’s just opinions of random people. I can say anything I want about what happened that night but you have to realize that what you hear is merely the opinion of a random dude in Minnesota. Dylan has not given any public interviews and neither have the investigators she spoke with. In my opinion the fact that it took a long time to call 911 is completely irrelevant.

She could’ve been shocked to see someone in the house when she wasn’t informed of any visitors but decided it’s probably someone’s friend.

She saw him coming from the area where Ethan was. I’m sure Ethan had many friends that were unknown to most who lived in the house. Ethan didn’t live there. She probably didn’t know what to think. The fact that she was in shock could be because it was unexpected to see a stranger there. She probably told police a lot more than what was likely summarized in the affidavit.

I think some people in this comment section don't understand what "frozen shock phase" means. It means a person is unable to do ANYTHING and their survival instincts kick in. In Dylan's case, she was most likely hiding. I don't think seeing an unexpected visitor in a highly frequented college house is going to do that to you.

@@abz9850 frozen shock phase is basically a way of dissociating, to put it simply. We only know what limited information the affidavit listed. So it will probably be a lot clearer when the trial starts and evidence and witnesses are heard from, in length. It’s only my opinion, with what I’ve read and seen in reports.

Funny?

@@chrisspearline767: Yes, did you not see the clips they input of them being silly and laughing at each other? Do you not consider that them being "funny"?

And they wasted there life to be burning in hell😢😮 Are you living like them? 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 King James Version 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

@@Heseesyouare you insane? If you think you are anything close to the embodiment of Christ, you are hugely mistaken.

@rustyspoon2211 says the God hating sin lover who is a child of satan. My father kills people and throws them in hell for their wicked deeds.. your next to be put there if you don't repent.. that is the gospel, that is the truth, the way the life.. only a wicked sinner would even say what you say.. your a liar to spread false truth about christ.. he isn't coming back as a baby in a Manger.. go read and be found faithful on that day.. or ignore why I was sent to speak to you.. only ex sinners enter the kingdom of God.. for it is written..REPENT OR PERISH SINNERS..

The Police have nothing to do with it. The Judge has imposed a Gag Order on all involved, both sides, and victims families as well..

I know. It has disturbed me since the first reporting. I have been obsessed with all the facts. It’s insane. True evil walks among us. I have two daughters. This just hits home to my heart.

Gonccalves family never miss an opportunity to cry infront fo the cameras. poor BK is guilty until proven innocent and that's not right

Both sides? What are the two sides?

Because they are lying?

Allow me to clear it up for you then. What's got you confused?

@@abebuckingham8198 eight hours wait. Explain that to me. Genuinely and just don't say the frozen in fear rubbish.

@@deniseelsworth7816she passed out? We don't actually know the circumstances yet.

@@janetgood6332 people don't pass out for 8 hours either. I think that would be seen as unconscious. So that's another time they should have got assistance and didn't. I find when things r so baffling they tend to be lies.

Gonccalves family never miss an opportunity to cry infront fo the cameras. poor BK is guilty until proven innocent and that's not right

Not somebody. BK.

Gonccalves family never miss an opportunity to cry infront fo the cameras. poor BK is guilty until proven innocent and that's not right

I cried watching that interview. Full on sobbed. It was so touching

I am and always well be sadden for the lost souls of those people.

And that he was apart of triplets!! 😢😢😢😢😢

Who care?

Edge, nah we’re fully across the line at this point

🤣🤣🤣🤣you're fatass is still using a phone watching a special about four murders.

But I suppose you think the billionaire trump is the saviour

Great white hope 🙌🏼

I believe warrantless wiretaps and complete invasion of privacy being snuck in under the guise of a “patriot act” was us going over the edge we’ve become the very thing we swore to destroy

The media in the US is prob the worst in the world. All liars and snakes.

Why ? Crooked cops could have Planted it

@@TerribleConnection77 It was a revenge/obsessive passion killing. Lots of people were in and out of the house, but they were young people - fellow students, friends, because it was a college town and a college house. Brian was in his later 20's, so older than them, almost graduated from college, and was rejected by Maddie Mogel - he previously followed her account, and was slayed along with three of her friends by him. A personal item, such as a knife and its sheath, doesn't just "poof" DNA onto itself. The evidnce is not circumstantial. Everything places him at the scene, his alibi, the gaps in time with the phone and footage of the car doing circles thru the neighborhood, and more. The evidence is corroborated by so many elements, the narrative painted by the evidence alone is insanely airtight. Yes, there were people in and out of the house, but they were not flukes. They were NORMAL people, students and friends. NOT INCLUDING BK, he was the fluke that murdered four of them and was probably rejected for reasons that led to the evident events. This will be one nightmare of a case for his defense attourney to sit through.

I disagree, why would he have a tactical knife just carrying it around? Then no explanation whatsoever where the knife is, he’s saying it isn’t his at all.

The DNA is the nail in the coffin for a guilty verdict. However, it is in COMBINATION with all the other evidence.

​@@nikitakucherov5028it should be thrown out. Touch dna is not reliable. Look up Lukis Anderson, he did 5 mths in prison because his touch dna was on the murder victim's nail. And he was not in the vicinity of that victim.

It’s call shock and fear coupled with the fact that they we’re basically kids. Probably living a protected life.

I bet, they will never testify. And if, the truth will never come out.

You never know how you’ll react in a situation especially one like this.

Traumatic shock, it's your body's natural defense mechanism that helps protect your brain and body. Which can cause a range of physical and emotional symptoms, such as numbness, confusion, and disassociation. In other words, they weren't thinking. Their brains switch to flight mode instead of fight mode.

@@motleymama6587 I’m sorry but I don’t buy that. If you were petrified but thought there was a killer in your house, you’d hide under your covers or in your closet and call 911. At the very least, you’d call BEFORE almost noon! I find it very hard to have any sympathy for this woman. She was NOT a “kid”.

TRUE

It was a party house. So you’re trying to convince people that Dylan and Bryan were actually the besties, not the girls earlier that day in the photo? Bryan looks like a real party starter, you’re right. I’m sure the law didn’t check up on Dylan early on, like A YEAR AGo? Why didn’t we hear about that? Maybe because it’s not real? How delusional are you then? you votin for Drumpf again too, clown? 🤡 holy s*** mann 😭 the internet broke you. Touch some grass perhaps.

TRUTH!

This...

For sure !

Where did you get this so called evidence you state as fact? Must be some of the misinformation Mark Fuhrman has fed to the media. There is no evidence released of eyewitnesses seeing his car nor has a picture of his cAr with him in it been released other than the stops in Indiana. Show a video of him going into 1122 King Road. Explain why the cartel came to King Road and Linda Lane. Wait,they didn't tell us about that. Did they tell the public there are two crime scenes? No. Did they say there up to 25 accessories to murder? Did they tell us that this was actually livestreamed, and people only paid $6 per person to watch on their phones? No. That's because of all the lies, coverup and corruption going on in this case.

There is sn ex-SEAL friend of Brent Kopacka who posted crime scene pics. Taunted investigators and the girls on IG, he posted pics of machetes, he's a psychopathic killer and he's called "The Moscow Slayer" (JOSCO1972?). I bet no one has heard of him and yet he and Brent Kopacka are part of the alleged killers never looked into. Brent was Swatted because he knew too much. The Slayer seems to be protected from being held for murder because he is a special government weapon.

His motive is he's some incel stalker in your story. In reality, this is a drug trafficking ring shakedown turned into a murderous rampage raid. FTR. No one was asleep and this started at 12:32 a.m. and ended when Kaylee allegedly died at 7 :00 a.m.

It’s all circumstantial except for the dna on the sheath. Driving around the scene of a crime helps build the case, but it’s far from enough to convict.

you just quoted like 4 pieces of "evidence" that have been debunked. The only official evidence out there is in the PCA. There's a gag order on this entire thing.

He was also most likely on drugs- hiding drugs from his family. What would he have taken to Pennsylvania to hide from the cops?

Most people really do think case is suspicious as hello! Meaning i have like 50 questions. And they think people are stuped. There clearly was some intentional crime scene contamination going on. Experts were like wth they are doing.

remember all the gossip about "blood on his pillow", "instagram follow/DM", "victims ID" all confirmed 100% fake. i'm 100% sure "put trash to neighbor bin" is fake too

@@ElaraNightsky Yep. I dont think so either that those are true. Remember case file leaked where defense actually found out WSU officer Dawn Daniels trespassing Kohberger appartment. When they went back there second time, i mean the Defense team find out that and they took again photos. Defense team took also his flat tv, computer screen, books, some boxes, papers etc. Well same WSU officer conviniently "forgot" samples, actual chain of custody of 3 samples in her locker. You can not make this shise up! And defense also had to ask, compel bodycamera videos from PA raid. Do they have them to this day, i don know.

​@@ElaraNightskyplease fill us in on how you know what is fake & what is true?

I think only 1 he was targeting but the others were like collateral damage to him ... but sad story all around.. this guy will be convicted eventually.... this guy looks creepy and weirdo

Exactly, everyone would scream or call 911 right away. Or check around the house after the person left to see what happened with others

Part of it is due to the 10 requests for IGG info that prosecutors would not turn over.

He waived his right to speedy trial if he hadn't then the prosecution might face bern more limited in their ability to keep investigating so I think he might have been better off if he isn't guilty to take the speedy trial

He waived his right. I believe if they thought prosecution didn't have the evidence to take him to trial, he wouldn't of waived that. It gives him enough time to come up with an alibi, and to show any flaws in the prosecution. I just pray this goes the right way and the right person is brought to Justice for the family

lmao u sound like 100 years ago u would be out lynching people

@@MarcoPolo-fy4qr This, this and this. There is funny business going on there, even in the judges latest order for 'some' igg information to be turned over, he basically bends the knee at the end and says whatever the fbi thinks is fine. This is absolute madness, there should be complete transparency, especially when it's subject to error and abuse.

I do as well. This could’ve easily been any of our kids….😔😢💔

@catdog7497 You expect us to believe that you are sorting tiny bits of trash into individual trash bags at 1:30AM wearing those gloves? Nah, you might be cleaning, but I don’t believe you are picking through your trash cans.

Funny! 🤣

This made me tear up 🥺

Same 😢

Drug Dealers all over that area...

Scary indeed. Posting photos of the inside of the house and their personal info out on social media is a recipe for disaster. Parents, teach your, especially daughters, to stop posting personal info. Have you not learned anything?

you've never been to college party houses before? heck, my friends even did stuff like this 25 years ago when we were in college.

I've only heard of one suspect. Have you heard somewhere that there is more than one person responsible?

THATS WHAT IM SAYING!!!!!! 4 Brutal stabbings and NO 1 SCREAMED... like NO 1??????..... she definitely had something to do with it

Exactly!!! 💯

noo c'mon you need to look at this practically. He came in, in the MIDDLE of night, with the presumed main target being the girls on the 3rd floor. They were most likely asleep in their bed together when he came in. It was dark, and if they are asleep he is over them in 2 seconds stabbing them... that's not much time to scream. Imagine you are awoken by literally being stabbed, you can't even see anything. Its definitely possible in this case that he wounded them so much before they were even able to let out a scream. The couple, I'm not sure about. We don't have enough information to know what really happened. Did he intend to kill them? Were they just collateral damage? Who knows. I'm not saying it's not a little odd that there weren't any screams, but at least for the girls upstairs, I think it makes sense. As far as Dylan, she did hear some things. But she didn't automatically assume her friends were being MURDERED, i mean, who automatically goes to that??? She popped out of her room and clearly didn't see much or hear much... so she goes back to bed. I lived in a university house like one they lived in, and yeah I heard noises of my friends coming in and out, cooking at weird hours, drinking, etc. I also saw a bunch of random people I didn't know bc they were friends of my friends. So when she saw the guy, mind you she probably was half asleep, maybe intoxicated, and it's dark... she probably didnt see him with blood all over himself and giant knife. She just saw a guy in black leaving the apartment. Maybe she was a bit scared, but convinced herself it was just a friend of a friend, or something. So she goes back to bed, sleeps in the next morning and finds out all of her friends are dead. That must have just been so horrible.. I can't even imagine. Apparently she called her friends first because she was just so horrified. The chances that she was in on it are just so slim. Also, side note but I actually went to university with this guy and was in a class with him. Scary stuff!

Calls her friends first though? If you walk in and see your friends murdered, why would you not call 911 first? But, call friends over.... something is really off with that whole scenario.

@@ericmarden8481 yeah well.. In this younger generation they are always relying on their friends, I mean they talk to them 24/7 via text. Nowadays young students would rather call their friends first than the police. but I had heard she called her friends and when they arrived she immediately passed out on the front lawn. Clearly… she was not okay and probably had some kind of panic attack.