The Casual Crooks of TF2: Pt II 

3:34 the biggest casual crooks are the ones who dont vote to kick bots

2:06 World's first recorded backstab with a rocket launcher.

Not even spy mains defend the diamondback. Most of them use the Ambassador, not because of any sense of honor, but because it's flashier.

force a nature just blasting people off the map it's funny tho

"The SMG is one of the best secondary weapons in the game." *pulls out my spreadsheet* Shotgun, panic attack, flare gun, detonator, gun boats, all 3 banners, mad milk, jarate, all 3 of demomans shields, the wrangler, the sandvich, the second banana, and technically the sticky bomb launcher and medigun are secondary weapons.

Some casual crooks I'd love to see in a video: Machina Snipers that only go for bodyshots Jarate + Bushwhacka Snipers Force of Nature + Crit a Cola Scouts (not nearly as busted as it used to be obviously but can still be annoying) Vaccinator Medics Short Circuit Engineers that spam on the payload cart Gunslinger Engineers (especially on hightower or harvest, they know what they're doing) Skullcutter Demos that always get random crits for some reason Soda Popper + Mad Milk Scouts that can tank anything, heal, run away until the milk recharges, repeat The "Medic Girlfriend"

That three man with the Loose Cannon was so clean it made me rethink my life choices

I cannot tell you how many times i've run into jackasses using the kunai, dead ringer and then, to add salt to the wound, they're also using the diamondback. That kinda playstyle is actually unbearable to fight against, i'd low key rather have paper cuts all over my body and jump into a pool of lemon juice than have to fight one of these wretched demons.

"The SMG is one of the best secondary weapons in the game" if you don't count most of the secondary weapons in the game, this is true lmao

"you have to hit your shots" would actually be a good way to balance the diamondback. Make it have a longer cooldown between shots - if you miss you're just sitting there with no ability to shoot for 2/3x the time, while a normal revolver can just keep firing and drop light classes in 3 hits. It would fit the weapon's design too - it looks bulky and heavy so slow shooting makes sense aesthetically

I like to play as Soldier with the Black Box; but instead of using the Conch, I use the Battalion's Backup. Not only do I think it's the coolest looking of the backpack items, but extra 20 health and sentry resistance comes in clutch quite often.

With the huntsman, remember: DON'T GET CLOSE! The closer you are the higher chance of a headshot. Yes I mean you demoknights that just charge me without a thought inside your collection of heads.

10:25 that's why i still use panic attack when my sentry has 20 kills i am THE whiffer

As a Former Spy main and now a Soldier Main, I don't like Kunai DR Spies and I usually resort to hunting them down whenever possible. As you say, they're not fun to deal with but somebody has to dedicate themselves to stop the ball from rolling.

tbf sniper in general is like that, the huntsman is just a slightly exaggerated version of everything thats already wrong with the class.

It's so freaking funny, just as the scout try escape a crit just homes on him. Lol

The casual crook of Scout is Bonk + FaN + Atomizer. The soda gives Scout a get out of jail card that takes no skill to use. It's also the most brainless way to flank. Since the Force a Nature fires so fast, Scouts don't have to aim for the second shot. And it's impossible to react to, feeling really annoying to die to. The only reason I don't 100% despise this loadout is because FaN knocking enemies into death pits and Bonk+Atomizer taunt kills have big funny value. Bleed Scout is annoying and powerful, but it's not a casual crook IMO because it takes considerable aim to hit both the guillotine and wrap assassin ornament on one target.

2:45 not even splash. The passive regen will allow him to survive 2 direct pipes if you spend like .2 seconds longer to shoot your pipe.

@4:22 whoaa.... I wonder who that tall dark and handsome sniper is.....

thank you for showing me these loadouts 🙏 i will make sure to use them in my future payload games

3:36 the worst part about this is still taking the health packs

the huntsman section of this video is GOLDEN

Some ideas for you: Medic - Vaccinator (free immediate resistance) Sniper - Bazaar Bargain or Jarate (they both reward you for doing seemingly nothing at all) Engineer - Wrangler or Short Circuit (two weapons which can shut-down any sort of push because they press 2 on their keyboard) Scout - Mad milk (same reason as jarate, kind of just a win button)

Spy mains over the past lets say year have been realising that thr ambi is actually sometimes better than the DB, even with the DR kunai combo, i would know, i use the kunai DR with the ambi, i match the diamondback more with the big earner because of the chain stabs for that weapon makes it more exillerating

Earlier today I was playing an upward match on Uncletopia with 3 topscoring snipers in a party on the enemy team and I got them to leave by sticky jumping on them with the caber over and over

No mercy spies are the worst indeed. Once i got into a ctf match, and it was 2fort. Peopel started being friendly and such, so ut was nice af. We all gathered on the bridge, heavys sharing sandviches abd using the holiday punch, engineers building dispensers... It was nice indeed. There was ONE SINGLE SPY that insisted on disguising right outsdie od spawn and going to the bridge, and backstabbing everyine on my team. I eventually got mad and decided to kill him alone, and another tryhard joined him, playing other classes. Eventually the entire wituation escalated to an ACTUAL map of ctf, we were actually fighting like other games and trying to cap. I raged so hard i installed overwatch 2 lol, still gotta play that. Sorry for text wall :3

Aside from conchbox getting you critical health, it also quite literally gives you critical hits, since you stay in combat for longer. It's also very easy to detect deadringer spies since this weapon is si bugged they sometimes don't produce killsounds, although even if they do, they still might be alive

I gotta admit, I hardly ever play soldier and after watching this video, I went and tried black box + conch + disciplinary action and .. it worked! Lol, thanks for the tip! Cool video, BTW. I like the way you phrase things.

common crook is the bazaar bargain/sniper rifle + razorback sniper hiding behind a sentry nest

For scout, his "casual crook" loadout would definitely have the Force-a-Nature. They can use it to sneak up on anyone and 2 shot them (with the 2 shots it already has). This makes them kinda like spy, but they are way more mobile (cause... they the scout). Idk if that would be a bad enough load out for a casual crook, but it might be (especially on control point maps & capture the flag). What their other weapons would be, idk. Probably the pocket pistol (for its extra health), and the Wrap Assassin (because it has a really annoying projectile).

The huntsman isnt nearly as annoying as standard sniper

Sniper is one of those classes you absolutely hate but have to admit they have skill

Not necessarily a casual crook, but casual *crooks*. Medic soldier/demo/heavy/power class combos steal the fun of the game so fast. Oh man, and if a medic is pocketing a battalions soldier with the kritzkrieg... it's over.

The diamondback shouldn't reward sapped buildings imo, it would still reward good players for being good, but you can't just get free crits for exploiting the blind and deaf f2p engie who doesn't even know what key moves forward

1:10 the range on the disciplinary action is nuts

Gun boats and Rocket launcher = win -Scrunchy Pants

Soldiers spies and snipers are actually the bane of casual. Play engineer heavy or medic? Here comes 3 kunai spies!! Play any class in the game and walk around a corner? There’s a pocketed soldier who eviscerates you in 0.1s because they got a lucky crit rocket

I use the Noh mercy loadout just to troll. If I'm being serious I use stock revolver, bit it is VERY funny watching the reactions you get from killing people with the diamondback, especially when you OUTSNIPE a sniper hiding in a corner.

During the Blackbox segment, watching the bot not get kicked made me sad af

I play Scout all the time and my all-time two hated "casual crook" loadouts are minisentry engineers and huntsman snipers BY FAR. The only weapon I truly fear in close proximity as a Scout is the huntsman because of the ridiculous number of times I've been wiped off the planet by one stray, close-range arrow which somehow found its way to my head, despite the fact I SHOULD have had the advantage to take out the Sniper with ease. And engineers who mini-sentry spam can literally suck all fun out the match and make you want to leave or swap classes because of how annoying the slow but sure damage of minisentries around every corner ends up being.

For scout I'd say Force o' Nature, Flying Guilotine and Boston Basher. Insane dmg and double bleeding status if you hit your shots.

I’d have to say a scout that hits 99% all his shots on Hightower can go on this infuriating list

-ConchBox my beloved (I refuse to call it "Immortal Soldier", fuck Elmaxo). In my experience with TF2, it has without a doubt been my most consistent source of high killstreaks and fun moments. -Huntsman is very Funny™. It's like the funny moments machine. It doesn't work all the time, but when it does, it fucking DOES. -KunaiRinger sucks. Fuck this thing. The health you get from a Kunai backstab + the Dead Ringer's damage resistance + speed boost is probably the single most annoying thing to fight in TF2.

You should actually make a video of the notorious pubstomper. I can name a few.

I'm not sure if the "noh mercy" spy qualifies as a crook, because it takes a half-decent spy to use it effectively. So this loadout is somewhere between "crook" and "pub stomper"

religious spy main, i've used the diamondback once and never again, i swear when they did that ambi nerf and left this like that they were most likely smoking crack!

Finally a video on the no mercy spy, just be disguising as scout for the tiny speed and runs in circles over and over

For Scout, if we talk annoyance more than stomp then the bonk is defo up there. In fact a favorite loadout of mine if I just wanna annoy people is to go fan o' war+bonk and tag people to death. It's ridiculously easy to pull off and you can get away very often as well since the bonk more or less acts like a visible dead ringer. Now don't drink the bonk right after tagging someone as you are too close to em, instead, run a bit further away, preferably behind cover and drink the bonk and watch the person you've tagged try to pointlesly shoot at you while they are marked for death. Which btw stays on for 15s even if you die or if the person you marked is being healed or even ressuplying. You could pair it with the force of nature to 2 tap most classes and make a big enough space between your opponent and yourself to run away if you fail.

I use that spy loadout but with the l'Étranger instead. I just pubstomped with it like a maniac on KOTH, 30-5 and by far the highest score in the game. If you have good aim you can instantly decloak after you ringer, hit them 3 times as you're using the speed boost to dodge and create distance and BAM! Your ringer is already fully recharched less than 5 seconds after you used it. Also if your aim is on point you can use the overheal to pick fights with injured targets and just gun them down, I think I got around 13 kills out of 30 with my gun that game.

4:04 the perfect intro to a HelloFresh spon

8 stickies trap camping demos with caber

Big improvement from the last casual crooks, great job!

Casual crock for scout was the sandman and cleaver back when sandman stun and cleaver did 150 + bleed

The dead ringer fake death instantly resets the spy's snowball effects like stored hits and overheal. There i just balanced spy.

Almost every phlog Pyro has spawn camped, nothing Uber can't solve tho if u don't have airblast

A casual crook Scout loadout would be build around either the FaN or Sodapopper IMO

11:02 also God himself cursed the old Ambassador. But it cheated death and came back in the form of the Diamondback, albeit a bit weaker

This is ep2, ya better not miss out mentioning Gunslinger Engy in final part dawg. How did he miss out on BOTH episodes when Gunslinger engy is THE definition of casual crook, no skill, fun ruiner, easy to play Edit: Gunslinger should've replaced "Lucksman" it's wild Huntsman still getting hate in 2024 when Huntsman is just a fun downgrade to sniper rifle, making it possible to 1v1 sniper unlike 4K hours quickscope sniper rifle mains 😢. Although I don't use smg with huntsman, feels very cheap and by using Cozy Camper, I force myself to use arrows to git gud at headshoting scouts or juking them while I charge 2nd arrow 😂

I know pubstompers are normally exempt from these, but I’d like to bring up Kritzkrieg pocket medics who basically glue themselves to one guy specifically. These things are just obnoxious

The only weapon I’d use in the “noh mercy” spy loadout is the dead ringer PURELY because gunspy exists

I like to play dead ringer + l’etranger and camp behind enemy spawn in payload. Sniping them with my pistol and cloaking away the first time they hit me, only to decloak 2 seconds later and continue the cycle.

Soda Popper &' Crit-a'-Cola for Scrout. Soda Popper is the strongest Scrout primary in the game, and giving scout FREE MINICRITS ON COMMAND AT ANY TIME HE WANTS IT is just not fair.

The Black Box is very low DPS compared to other options and the low clip means that you have to dip out of fights a lot to reload It’s great for roaming new players, but not good for holding a front line or pushing as much as a Stock set… use it if you don’t have a medic or plan on needing one

force a + nature criticola is really the only scout loadout that can be annoying without being outplayed at least a bit

The Kunai would be a valid weapon if there where no face stabs

Next up vac medic, mini spamming engie and stock scout.

lucksman is underappretiated

Huntmans still acceptable bc u get most kill at mid range while the sniper main behind lv3 sentry doing nothing but tapping head and top scoring.

hey bud if you think the Lucksman is a Crook wait until you meet a rifle sniper who get pocketed

"if you miss the shot, just run away" You ain't playing a lot of spy, don't you?

This really only works on a few maps, but Thruster + Flamethrower Pyro on like Harvest is nasty. It's really easy to jump into the other team's spawn zone and just camp for kills. I remember one guy got so salty he put on the Darwin's and still got cooked multiple times in a row.

Bb conch soldiers make me taunt after kill mandatory on them

My fav sniper loadout is: Huntsman Cleaners carbine Buskwacka (sometimes the shiv)

As a medic main who doesn’t use the Vaccinator I can confirm we are insane

i feel like the machina would have been a better choice for this

The game becomes rly fun when good players use these loadouts. 😊

for me i use dead ringer kunai, but swap between ambassador and l'etranger, i agree that it can be the other teams fault. ambassador was good cus skill, dead ringer diserved nerf, yet the diamond back has the same "problem" valve saw with the ambassador but worse. personally the biggest strength of the kunai is that you have no chance of dying after a 1v2, as debuffs are removed

8:06 *Airblast*

I DESPISE the Huntsman; it makes Sniper as brain-dead as Soldier. "Oh, I'll just spam fire in random directions and manage to score 10 kills from across the map without even seeing the enemy." Lame af

1:11 most normal whip reach

i just call the immortal soldier the BBC Lover 😂

eyelander demoknight

As a Spy Main I dont use the Diamondback and I know that a Spy being rewarded by a fault of your teamates is bullshit, but your telling me a phlog pyro with a pocket medic is not bullshit, then im using the Diamondback, Kunai and Dead Ringer.

6:43 I will never understand why the arrow uses the world collider hitbox but demoman pills dont. and the time it did all the other ones were nerfed. oh and the cannonballs demoman shoots are fucking microsized

2:18 I'd wouldn't say running conch over gunboats is a loss. Gunboats are overrated and only encourage a selfish loner playstyle, while the conch is a boon to your team and also a fantastic tool for roaming as well

I think the huntsman makes me laugh more than it makes me mad, so not sure if i'd agree with that one lol.

I personally disagree for the whole Noh Mercy set on all points, simply because each of these weapons have way more interesting (and stronger) equivalent, and they only work when you feed off players with little to no awareness. If one player in the team with a microphone, and an ounce of attention shows up, that spy set becomes virtually useless. The diamondback and the kunai are virtually useless if you can't get kills in the first place, and the dead ringer is just not a good item to do Spy's job to begin with. But literally, stock, any other knife, and any other revolver do a better job than then ringer kunai diamondback combo any day in the hands of a good player.

Dude this is fucking amazing. You're hilarious. Keep it up

honestly the second i see a spy using the deadringer and/or diamond back, i just lose literally any respect i could ever have for them

probably soda popper but i have never seen that unless from good scout , fan can probably not fall into this category since it requires a cliff and most of the time they do haha funny environmental kill you already know where to find them backscatter is bad and baby face is mid so the closest thing is probably soda popper or force-a-nature

Devils advocate- I think the Kunai is *mostly* ok. A lot of weapons punish you for the teams mistakes- you can argue that about all the banners, the frontier justice, and the ubersaw. I do think it needs a nerf, since it is way too much, but I don't think it is the boogieman people make it out to be. Same with the deadringer- annoying but hardly a strong weapon compared to the invis or cloak. Fuck the Diamondback though.

me personally im a deadringer kunai ambi spy because i dont like getting cheap kills that require minimal skill when im in a pinch and need a weapon to do high outputs of damage but that might just be me

0:23 average spy ragdoll.

The absolute hate I have for the huntsman. I always feel guilty using it. You get rewarded way too much for something that takes relatively alot less skill

for scout casual crook is force a nature soda popper

the ambassador is better than the diamondback because you can do the same damage literally whenever it's still the best damage dealing revolver even after the nerfs

i feel like the noh mercy spy is a bit unwarranted here i mean dont get me wrong the diamondback is OP beyond hell but playing kunai spy isnt super easy, and its doubly not easy with the DR, giving you little health, and little ability to sneak around yes its annoying when the spy kills you using health and crits from killing your less skilled team mates, but it still takes a bit of skill on the spies part compared to the lucksman and the blackbox conch solly that can more or less spam down choke points atleast

I think for the last 3 it should be FaN scout because that god damn knock back and kinda stunned in the air for a short while is pretty annoying especially for newer players. Then we have the wrangler engie because of how brainless you can play with it with the auto aim and increase HP on a Level 3 and even on a mini. And the worst possible play style, The Vacc med. No other words needs to be said

I use diamond back because I know I’ll only get 1 backstab per life

If i wanted the problems nerfed it be as follows. Conch requires 540 damage, requiring five-six rockets rather then five. Huntsman minicrits unless you fully charge for a second. The huntsman is too spammable and cornerpeaking with it is a class counter issue that doesnt take a ton of skill/luck to pull off. Diamondback, wipe the damage penalty and give it a 35% reload penalty and minicrits instead of crits. No you shouldnt get 102 shots for doing your job.