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Another great video! Thanks for shedding light on a speaker that I personally feel deserves WAY more love! I currently have 2 of these quads loaded in a MArshall Mode four cab and a Diezel RV cab. Perfect compliments to the speakers as both of those cabs sound bigger/darker due to thei construction than something like a 1960. They shine in OS cabs
I got a mode four bottom cab recently. The one with a version of V30 in it. They're called MF30s. Same as the Marshall Vintage speakers pretty much. I have a late '80s 1960a cab with T75s. It sounds great for old school riffing, but a bit harsh for distorted lead tones on higher strings. But with the MF280b cab sitting underneath it sounds amazing. That harshness is gone somehow and the MF30 speakers add what the T75s lack. A great speaker combination. The MF30s somehow enhance the good stuff with the T75s, but cancel out the ugly stuff, while making it all sound more together. It's hard to explain. Mode Four cabs were very expensive when new. All birch ply and oversized etc. Not super rigid and tight like a Mesa cab though.
John, great initiative to show the G12 Ann in the comparative detail., you rock!!! Of all the tests I've heard and IRs I've tested (I've never tested a real one) about this G12 Ann, I've always found it very harsh. If you also have the opportunity to test the G12 EVH, there is not much comparison/review of the G12 EVH here on RU-vid. I'm researching which speakers to put in a 2x12 cabinet that I'm assembling and I strongly consider the G12 EVH 16ohm (15 ohm actually)….cheers 🍺🍺🍺
@@TheOtherJohnBrowne It's a G12H. So technically, you could say its a Greenback. Except when it got re-released in 1994, it was done with a shiny new label, but no can.
Great video. I love the G12H Anniversary speakers as well. Avatar sells a version of it that is pre-broken in for 15 hours and rebadged that is called the Hellatone 30. I have a quad of those in my Marshall 1960B cab. I always found the top end of the G12H to be much more pleasant to my ears than the V30. However, V30s are always a safe bet when using them with amps that were designed with those speakers in mind.
This is my favorite speaker of all Celestions. I have a 1936 cab with a V-30 on the left and the G12H30 on the right and it is the perfect combo if you're into mixing speakers. By itself, to me, is the best all around speaker.
Awesome video maaa maaaaaan! I really like the tones of the two blended together! Since I am one-sided deaf, I cannot hear stereo, so the section in 7:33 is for me just a perfect blend. In that 50:50 blend, , maybe with a slight roll off of the high-end, you got some tone-juice magic happening there!
Something i started doing years ago is put my marshall cabs on the floor of the stage without the casters i removed them and use a dolly imstead the cabnet contact with the floor majes a huge diffrence i learnrd this trick from producer Jack Douglas in the 80's recording the first Axehammer LP cheers !
My favorite speaker. I have 2 in a cab and 1 in a combo. Tight is all . And for those who say spikey or something like that. That's what EQ and tone knobs are for
The heritage g12h30s are God tier speakers, wish they still made them. They technically still make the heritage g12m's as they are the evh speakers. Blending the anniversary is great. Put one in a vintage ac30 with a silver and it's a great combo.
I've got these in a Framus Cobra 412 Cab from like 2001 that is front loaded........ Super up front sound, Doesn't sound quite as "big" to me as a v30 but its focused and the Upper mids/presence range is great. Sounds great when you are down tuned too, since there isnt as much mid rang "boxey" ness to it etc. Nice work as always
Great speaker, works well on its own and paired with a V30, that was the combo I ran in my Mesa 212 before they came out with G12h75 creamback. Liked the tone better on the G12h30 but wanted the extra watts from g12h75 to run with a 100 watt head. Can’t lose both work really well :) thanks for vid and getting the word out on a great speaker
I have a pair of these sitting on a shelve. I have yet to find another pair that would combine nicely with these. I’ve tried the V30s (Chinese) and wasn’t pleased. So far I am sticking to my 4x12 with a pair of Mesa V30s and a pair of old G12T-75.
The G12H is my go to speaker when I can't figure out what I want, or if I need to cover a lot of musical territory. It probably helps that as a young chap, it was the best speaker I had access to until I got a Mesa 412, so I became very well acquainted with them then.
Dude, I almost think this is one of the most under rated current prod speaker out there. Also, it sounds so good with the V30's! Obv, things like what cab they are in, amp, guitar, mic etc affect it like any other speaker, but damn, Im sitting here wondering why I don't have a couple at least!
I always found the *long name* to be a bit nasal with a slightly abrasive peak in the presence similar to the ‘regular’ V30. Maybe lacking that snarl in the mids where I would like it. Having said that, it sounded decent here. I find it interesting that the 1st example played always seems to set a mental baseline, establishing a ‘norm’ by which we judge the strangeness of the second. I feel like the first example in a comparison always has the advantage. Maybe it’s just my brain. Awesome vid John.
Great demo/compare/shootout as always! I’d dare to say a clearer/less nasal sounding speak vs the v30 but there’s something about the harmonics that the v30 has and I noticed it specifically in your pinch harmonics riffs. I think you can’t got wrong with either and cab design will determine that final factor in selection. I agree with @belligerentamateur than an os cab would do the trick for the g12H 70.
In all the sound clips i heard on the celestion websight, i always thought this one sounded the best. I was about to say i wish i could own these speakers, then you told me theyre in the evh 2x12! Thanks man! I love my evh 2x12!
Speaking of, that speaker mix pro vst Celestion made is pretty damn awesome. The DSRs are a bit pricey, but they seem to respond more realistically. Noticeably better than regular IRs for sure, even Celestions own IRs don’t compare to their DSRs.
@UseTheSupeRsonic idk what a Dsr is, but I'll look it up. I don't really use plug ins or IRs, I guess I'm just old-school. I always thought the evh speakers in the 2x12 were a variation of a greenback lol. I love these channels, it's great for educational purposes. Now I actually know what I own lol.
@@lieutenantdan2217 DSRs are a proprietary version of IR that Celestion uses for their vst. They’re not static IRs. Correct about the EVH Celestion though-it’s really just a rebadged G12M Heritage. Great speaker that actually sounds pretty modern for it to be a vintage reissue
@UseTheSupeRsonic Here he's saying it's a G12H? I'm sure they're both closer than it's worth talking about, but if my memory serves me correct I remember thinking the G12H was warmer than a greenback and had more presence than a V30. That's why I wanted em so bad, because they were right in the middle. I also remember deciding not to buy them, because they were 250 a piece.
The G12H 70th Anni sounds really nice here, dare I say slightly better than the V30 to my ear. I think the Chinese made G12H 70th Anni up until 2018 was the brightest speaker Celestion made thus solidifying its reputation as a lesser choice compared to the Vintage 30, but since production moved back to UK it got much more musical, at least in front of an SM57.
Had to rewind several times because I was just listening to the riffs and forgot this was a speaker shootout! I really like the "bit less in your face" nature compared to the V30s - sounds really good! Is the G12H30 a little quieter in the room as well? Cheers - great one as usual!
4:34 is pretty damn close to the exact tone I like. v30 it is, even tho I always liked how open and natural the greenback variants sound. Both are pretty awesome actually, 5:28 that sounds really nice and crisp :)
These are the kind of speakers I’d put on the bottom of a cab because of the nice open midrange, but I’d never use them alone….they’re too present, for me anyways. I’m always of the mind that there is no such thing as a bad speaker, just bad application!
Great video! The G12H30 with the 5150 sounds way better than the V30. The V30 sounds a bit harsh in general, but the G12H30 comes and balances it perfectly. Killer tone when both speakers are mixed together. Curious if these would work as good with another amp with smoother voicing compared to the 5150.
You could have been one of the bad guys from the new Dune movie. Nice playing! 🎉 Gotta try this speaker with different amps. It pairs well with Orange stuff. EVH amps are so damn harsh sounding
The G12H-30 has long been my favorite Celestion speaker. It sits somewhere in-between the Greenback and V30 in terms of tone, and works perfectly for both vintage rock and heavy metal tones all the way to tight modern metal. I like the G12H Heritage (now discontinued) better than the Anniversary, but both sound fantastic. The Anniversary is a bit tighter than the Heritage in my experience, so it works better for metal out-of-the-box.
There is a greenback G12H-30 as well and it appears discontinued The creamback H, Greenback H, and this one all sound great! The sticker on this appears to say it is the original spec for the Greenback version?
I've watched a few demos of the G12H Anniversaries over the years and they always have this harsh high end. I don't know if they sound great in the room and just don't record well or what. I dig the sound of the regular G12m greenbacks more than these or the V30s. Ola Englund has a video where he switched between v30s and Greenbacks and it was eye opening to me.
Why does this make the V30 sound scooped? Really liked the G12H30 70th, which I suspected I might because they sound amazing in the EVH dynacabs in the Axe Fx. Thanks for making this direct comparison, bald! EDIT: wow! In the room they sound completely opposite from the close-mic'ing. The V30 sounds full and mid-forward and the G12H30 70th sounds screechy and scooped? But I sitll really liked the close mic tones better in this case from the G12H30.
They come stock in all EVH 112 and 212 cabs, so I wouldn't say underrated, but maybe more unknown. Im also confused about why this speaker is only rated at 30 watts given that it has the biggest magnet Celestion makes. This is also the same exact 50oz magnet that's on the G12K100 100-watt speakers. Great job, thank you.
Yeah. Maybe underappreciated. The magnet doesn't really determine the power handling of the speaker. The voice coil is the bottle neck here. It needs to be able to dissipate the power that is being put through the speaker. That being said, Celestion tend to underrate their speakers power handling. I reckon one of these should be able to handle more than 30 watts
So with my evh 5150 I hated this speaker when paired with it,however pairing it with a jcm 800,Plexi or similar amp these speakers sound amazing with them. They also pair nicely with the 65 and 75 creambacks
Better get that right hand in shape! There's a trick to that and no I don't mean masturbation. Ok yeah I mean masturbation LOL. Nah seriously I think it sounds great, the two combined sounded really good and if I had to choose one on its own I think it would be the G12H30. It reminds me a little of that Fane speaker you tried a while back (was it the F50?). Like the V30 but not so aggressive in the upper mids.
I don't know if it really is a tip or secret, but the eminence wizard is said to be voiced similar to this one but just at a much higher power rating, which is why I own a wizard and not the anniversary. Strange enough there seems to be no content really comparing them... As you do so often.
@@TheOtherJohnBrowne well you know basically that’s what I got in my EVH cab but of course the Warehouse guitar speaker version of celestial that’s why I keep just calling that anniversary speaker because it’s the name is just too long
I like your GB & V30 blend comparison for the featured speaker because it reminds me of a Creamback H 75 which is definitely in the realm of a V30 & Greenback baby. Anyway, you have a fine day.
That makes total sense really given that the modern G12H-30 is a direct take on the G12H greenbacks from the 1970s - essentially the G12H anniversary literally is a H magnet greenback without the green cover. The Vintage 30 was a response to loads of people in the 1980s asking for Celestion to re-release the old (vintage) G12H-30, but they made it with a different voice coil so they could uprate it to 70W. Of course now we have the G12H-75 Creamback as well which was also supposed to be an uprated G12H, so really the V30, G12H anniversary and G12H Creamback are all three different shots at the same goal.
@@TheOtherJohnBrowne It will match your beefy tone and beefy riffs! Side note- if you can get your hands on a G12TAD-30 from Tube Amp Doctor it's highly recommended. As you may already know it's a slightly tweaked version of what you demo'd here.
@@TheOtherJohnBrowne Eff yeah! Hopefully you have time to demo it at some point. And if you live near Worms you can hit those guys up in person any time. ha. I imported a quad of them here to the U.S.. I've got a pair in a 2x12 and when I stumble on an empty cab I intend to load all 4 up. Love your channel bud. Keep doing what you do.
@@TheOtherJohnBrowne Ah! So cool. Irish and Deutsch blooded American here. And a speaker junky. This explains why I dig your channel so much. Mein Bruder von einer anderen Mutter! 🙂
