The Boston Celtics have taken years to build a championship contender, and now with Jayson Tatum, Kristaps Porzingis, and Jrue Holiday... they are unquestionably the best team in the NBA. #celtics #bostonceltics #nba
It amazes me how good Porzingis has gotten. In his Knicks and Mavs days, he was really just a perimeter guy, he wasn’t able to take advantage of his height very well, but now he can absolutely punish smaller defenders inside.
@@JasperWolf-wy9mb If the Bucks make the playoffs this year, which they will, they will make the 2024 NBA Finals. The Heat & the Celtics won’t even get to the conference finals this year. 😂
@@theNBAlife23 😂 Who’s gonna make it then? Philly? That’s silly the Celtics own Philly. It’s the Celtics year stop being stuck in the past. They’re a whole different animal this year.
Both Spurs guard at the time, Derrick White as the "2", and Dejountay Murray as the "1" was a really good back court that deserved more recognition. Excellent two-way players.
I legit only knew because of fantasy basketball. The season he was hurt he kept slipping in drafts and I scooped him in every one. He wasn't a steal or anything that season, but the more I read about him... Can't believe he's on the C's now.
Derrick Whites been so damn good. I would love if he made the All-Star team because he deserves it so much. The impact hes made, for the price they paid for him is insane value. The guys averaging 17 on a team with Jaylen Brown, KP and Jayson Tatum.... They still need some reliable big depth, I still have a huge problem with relying on a 38 year old Al Horford for 20-30 minutes a night, and an injury prone KP (despite as good as hes been, its always a worry). Jrue has been a bit disappointing scoring-wise this season, hes had a lot of bad shooting nights, but his defense is always there to justify a spot on the court. Payton Pritchard has gotten so damn good off the bench. I knew he was capable of it, but his defense has been a lot better, hes been a pest and his efficiency and the shots he does get are really good. His play making has improved a lot too, kinda reminds me of a White Chocolate lite in terms of playmaking. Theyve built the team the right way. Over the next 6 years, they have 4 of their own first round picks, they have a bunch of seconds. They dont have tradable contracts, I hope Payton isnt the odd man out and gets traded, but I think they could get a reliable off-the bench centre with the picks they have. I dont think the contracts would ever match up, but Vucevic looks like a perfect option, maybe Drummond even? I dont know who the solution is, but I know theyll probably find someone for a good price. That said, they absolutely cannot go into the post-season without adding a big.
I'm with you on most of this. I don't agree about the Jrue comment. He's running the point, so scoring isn't supposed to be his go to. Point guards are supposed to set his team up to score. Scoring is a point guards second option, only if it's available to him. His assist numbers are up, which is what he's there for. Averaging plus 10 with 6.4 assists/game is actually excellent play from the 1 guard spot. BTW....make sure you put in your vote for D. White. They pick All-Stars by fan vote. They already started and have Giannis in the lead. Look up the ballot and put yours in so we can get our boy up to All-Star level. He definitely deserves it. Only thing I worry about is the fact he's going to command more money once it happens, and cap space isn't great anymore after the J.B. contract. They may have to give one of them up next season, which if we win a championship, will kind of spoil the chances for a repeat.
@@docdollaz8313 Yeah I see where youre coming from. The only thing Id say is your view on Point guards is a bit dated. They arent there to set up others anymore. A lot of the best scorers in the league are at the point. That said, on a team with Tatum, Brown, KP and White its understandable that Jrues scoring has gone down. But he has had some bad games where I cant see a game where Derrick White had a bad game so far. Even on the days where he didnt score as much, it was still mostly efficient scoring and he played great defense. Im not saying Jrue is bad or I dont value him, I just think Whites more important to what Bostons doing right now.
The big thing I have noticed is Jaylen improvement. I love JB but he had a tendency to be a ball stopper. His passing has really improved and he and KP have great chemistry on the court.
thats narrative not reality. JB may take over for 4-6 straight possessions about once a game typically, but in those instances, he acts quickly, usually attacking and collapsing the D. his vision and willingness to pass out of that collapse is for sure a big improvement, but hes never been a ball stopper, thats Tatum. its noteable too that tpyically when JB has those take-over attempts, its when momentum is against the Cs and no1 else is bringing energy and hes trying to turn the tide. Tatum is just the opposite, in the midst of a huge run, with all the momentum in our favor, Tatum decides to start playing Tatum ball. He isos rather than attacks, he dribbles out the clock rather than act quickly, he takes contested, side-step threes instead of driving to the hole. he only passes out of double and triples (and thank goodness for that at least), but teams would likely have greater success if they stopped sending those doubles and just let Tatum shoot the Cs out of it (which will happen more often than not). also, selfishness is a top down team ailment. Tatums refusal (by action) to sacrifice his numbers for the better of the team infected the guys beneath him with their own selfishness and prevented us from having at least 1 Jays era banner already in the rafters. Thanks Kobe and Kyrie. point remains, tho im sure JB has been guilty at times and maybe even for stretches, its far from a hallmark or even noteable characteristic of his game and ascension to superstardom. he just gets lumped into it with Tatum cuz thats the only way the media and fans will critique JT, by saying "the Jays" rather than just JT.
There is no improvement. His offensive impact is woeful . Derrick whites impact is covering some of these players weaknesses . Dp you halow many points per 100 celtics lose without jaylen brown on offense . 0.8. Halliburton is 8 . O.8 is unacceptable and it was the same thing last regular season
People love to hate on the celtics for "choking" when tatum and brown have some great success in the playoffs and are still young. Hopefully they get their respect when banner 18 comes this year.
The thing is since Tatum and brown have been in the ecf since they were 19 and 20 yrs old they’re getting penalized for being good while they were young and developing
@@CARBONHAWK1 Exactly, Tatum drafted in 2017 made it to the finals in 2022 (5 years) that's two years before Jordan made the finals and one year later than Lebron's first appearance, and they had to play through a tough Milwaukee and Miami to get to that place.
Its usually the casuals who have that Micheal Jordan mentality that Championships are the only success and if you didnt win any you suck. Making it to and past the Conf. Finals the amount of times the Celtics have over the past 5 years or so is insane sustained success. Theyll figure it out at some point. There are a lot worse places to be than having Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum as your centerpieces for the next decade hopefully. If they keep both and there are no significant injuries, those two should be contending for the next dacade....Which is pretty damn good.
Love the channel! Just would like to see more accurate photos flashing in the background that relate better to your points. Saw lots in this one, for example at 7:00 you were talking about bucks lack of perimeter D but showed a pic of the Bucks with holiday and not Lillard or Beasley
The Celtics are top 3 in paint points, they don’t over-rely on three point makes. They’re a good three point shooting team so they’re naturally going to take a lot.
No question. This by far the best team since 2008. Even the Celtics teams who made the Finals had holes in the roster. This Celtics while not perfect is VERY close to it..
Porzingis is having a career 53% FG. 20+ ppg. D white is also having a career season. And holiday is doing his things as usual. Those 3 are the biggest factors on the celtics' success.
If the Bucks face the Pacers in the playoffs then the Celtics are heading to the finals, barring injury. Matchups matter and honestly, even fully healthy I don’t see Milwaukee beating Boston, Indiana, Philli, NYK, or a healthy Heats, but I can see Boston overcoming them all. We’ll see!
Addin KP into the mix and Dwhite elevating his game truly made Boston a tough team to beat. When Jt and JB's shots ain't falling, KP and Dwhite somehow find a way to win
after white made that incredible play in last years game 6 playoffs everyone saw how good he really is//that was the most incredible play in all of last seasons nba season..highlite reel number 1 play/////it turned white into a max star////////////maybe he will turn into a celtic jordan ,im.........dreaming of white turning into a mix of a jordan larry bird combo//the shooting rainbows of a bird and the acrobats of a jordan////////////i always thought brown plays like jordan and tatum looks like bird from the outside//if tatum turns into clutch celtics win chip//jaylan brown is scary if he turns his left hand into magic he can be mvp of playoffs/////white is gettin ready to do something big/////porzingi is a skyscraper king kong godzilla//holiday can be a brick wall on defense///////so many weapons now for celtics//even prichard is a demon now///////hauser rain some drops too////////only one beating this celtic team is themself/////////they have to learn to go to that rim like beasts forget the long 3////just find a way to stop the nba 3 point shot and u wearing a chip on your finger/////////if a bum like kevin garnet can win a chip there no reason why this celtic team wont win one///hehe just kidding kg..............go get that chip b4 its to late///
Late game execution is the only issue i have with this Boston team, but i think they outgrown those. We clear out and post up the mismatch and get a great look
I think this will come down to how we defend dominate inside players for long series. KP and AL both can't handle that and still be good to go for the next series or maybe the next game. If the 76ers drop and they have to play the 76ers then the bucks then lets say the nuggets i don't think the bigs will have anything left
Celtics fans you can vote every day for All Stars. I vote every day for our 5 Celtics starters and today the NBA revealed all 5 are in the top 10 for front and back courts respectively. Front court = JT #3, JB #5, KP #8. Back court DW # 8, JH #10 so far.
What’s crazy is they could very well have won 6 of the 7 games they lost. The weakness they have is they get in their own way especially the Jays. It’s crazy how they basically got White, Porzingis and Holiday back and only really gave up Rob and Smart (I will always believe in Nesmith)
The point of JT not showing up in big games just isn’t true yet it’s such this constant talking point. He had one bad series in the finals and suddenly him leading the comeback against the Bucks down 3-2, his heroics in last years Sixers series, the fact that we probably beat the Heat last year if he doesn’t sprain his ankle on the first play, and all of his other playoff runs show that the majority of the time he gets even better in those big moments.
Yeah that rhetoric is a fkn joke mostly parroted by haters and casuals or people looking for click bait talking points. I will agree that he's gotta be better than he has against Miami come playoff time, it's ridiculous that a simple zone defense gets in his head so much (gonna be different now that we got an actual 3rd option) but still......ask Philly and Milwaukee fans if they agree that Tatum doesn't show up😂😂😂 Dropping 40 in a must win game 6 against the defending champs at their home court to force a game 7 isnt something that someone who "doesn't show up" does. Dropping 50 in a game 7 against the MVP and a division rival to send them home isn't something that someone who "doesn't show up" does. What's even more head scratching is that his finals numbers weren't even THAT awful when compared to some of the stinkers that some all time greats have put up on the big stage. Bron had a finals series worse than that, Kobe had TWO finals series worse than that. You could argue Curry was below his standards in just about all his appearances except the one against Boston. Not even mentioning the fact that he's still younger than MJ, Bron, Curry or Shaq-less Kobe when they got their first ring(s). I have to remind even myself sometimes that JT and JB for that matter are both still not even to the half way point of their careers, it feels weird to say cuz they've had more playoff success since they've been in the league than about 26 whole other organizations have in that same time frame, but it's the truth🤷♂️ Honestly it's just cuz the media and non-Celtics fans hate Boston. If Tatum had done all he's done up to this point in his career in a Spurs or Heat jersey he'd be getting glazed around the clock.
The Spurs retained a top 2 protected 2028 pick swap could become really valuable if Wemby hits. Who knows how much talent Boston can retain that far out in the future, but that’s not talked about enough
They still have 4 out of the next 6 picks outright. They also own their 2028 pick swap with the Spurs, and its protected for #1 (which isnt much but its there just in case). The cap is set to increase quite a bit over the next 6 years too. The new TV deal is set to do that. Plus they are one of the franchises that hasnt really made a bad move since Paul Pierce and Antwan Walker were their best players. They always figure it out. The KP contract might age poorly, but well see.
@@Amm17ar I’m not saying it’s likely but it could be valuable. The worst case scenario for Boston in 4 years is that Jrue retires, KP is injury prone, the Brown contract ends up being one of the worst contracts in the NBA and Tatum requests a trade (since most superstars do). Again, not saying this is likely but it is a possibility
@@MoonLess4444 Being a Boston fan, were not LA or New York either. Actually, when was the last time we had a super-star sign for Boston without trading for him first lol? Gordon Hayward is genuinely the only guy I can think of.... Its a place guys sign when they wanna win and its usually older guys who are just going to play as roleplayers generally.
Even as a huge Celtics fan, if we dont get atleast one ring in the next 3 seasons I'm gonna be extremely disappointed. For the next three years including this one, our window is as wide as its ever been for any team ever maybe minus KD era GS.
Ok, please tell me if I’m biased here, but even though EVERY NBA person in the media talks about FUCK ton about the C’s, how does it still seem like JB’s season and his improvement is going under the radar to everyone but like Zach Lowe. He just the had most impactful month and a half in his career, with his best playmaking, great defense, and was still putting up efficient numbers and got zero credit for it. I still hear that he’s the 4th best player and Tucker just said they play better without him, which is not correct statistically or with an eye test. Non-Celtics fans tell me if I’m bugging.
I’m a Celtics fan so you didn’t ask, but you’re completely right, his growth as a decision maker has improved exponentially, he’s actually making his teammates better this year, people are just regurgitating old narratives about him
@@ilovewithcaution he’s currently making 28, then 49, 53, 57, 61, 65. He doesn’t just make his ending salary IMMEDIATELY. Y’all hear the big number then focus on that and don’t think of the scaling it does with the salary cap.
The Celtic picture you used in the beginning of your video has more ex-Celtics on it (Timelord, Smart, Brogdon, and Blake) than current Celtics (Brown, Tatum, and Al). Can you fix that, please?
No defense in the league can stop the celtics. Brown and pingus run a deadly two man game that is very different then the two man game pingus and white run. White and tatum run yet another type of two man game. No defense is deep enough. Porblem is the celtics can be out coached. He is slow to adjust. He is better but still kinda bad about killing other teams momentum with time outs and subs. In 7 games against a well coached team the celtics are going to be in an up hill battle.
The coaching thing might be the biggest reason why they lost to the Heat last year. It took Joe 10 quarters to finally realize Jimmy Butler did not want to go after Tatum on defense and they finally made the switch.
@@ccjl9160 exactly. He gets it right... eventually but you don't get time like that in a 7 game series. If you need a game to figure out every problem you lost before the series started.
celtic coach is useless even a monkey can sit on that bench and just say keep chucking up the 3 ball//////still cant defend the 3 ball thats why celtics gonna fail//////
I know it's easy to say Milwaukee have no perimeter defence bc they lost Jrue, but they're literally sitting second best in the league for opponent 3p%
I like alll the points you made but your videos could be more compelling if you can breakdown footage to enhance your points. You mentioned how Portzingis helped them with spacing and defense but there's not enough analysis on what that means in the context of the team. You also say how they make questionable decisions but end up winning games, but in what ways? Also on the Derick White's contribution, is there any data to support your claim? How has his arrival improved their stats or ratings? Against certain matchups, you say how other teams struggle, but how are the Celtics different? is there a certain area they excel, what about defense?
Um they never will be better without Jaylen. He’s been the most important player this year. That contract gave him the security and validation he needed to become a true leader.
we’ll see come playoff time ..if this team doesn’t win a chip it needs to be considered a failure of a season no debate especially with all the talent they possess
wow...that's just unfair isn't it? the talent this team have came through the draft and smart trades. There were no superstars who decided to go there. It's like their front office did so well of a job that it became a bad thing for them having such a chip or bust expectation.
@@gerardrazulcarim4922 that’s not the point the fact is they’ve developed enough talent for them to be in the conference finals pretty much every year but yet they continue to come up short in the postseason. so eventually you have to start looking in the mirror because there’s no reason why they don’t have a title in the last few years maybe outside of the 2018 ecf .. it’s championship or bust enough with the excuses it’s time to get the job done
Most of this roster is locked up contractually for atleast next season. I don't think it's chip or bust yet but if they don't have a banner by the end of summer in 2025, there's gonna be some uncomfortable conversations to be had tbh.
The jabs at Jaylen make me wonder if you’ve been watching enough games for the past 2 months The discourse among fans and people who cover the team is that Jaylen has fully committed and bought in to playing a style which compliments the other key players on the team, he’s been much better playmaking than he has been thus far and he’s been stepping up his defense. Not to mention December might’ve been the best month of his career Going into the Jazz game fans were annoyed at Tatum for slowing the pace down for the Celtics and playing too much iso
Don’t understand why the spurs didn’t get more from the Derrick white trade, or why the Celtics came out with two firsts AND prozingis while only giving away smart and some low rotation players. Those firsts were then used to get jrue. Celtics FO really carrying fr
Brad Stevens is a young Genius. You can tell he learned a lot from Danny. Now Ainge has something cooking in Utah. Look at all his assets he's stacking over there😂😂😂
Denvers playoff offense either gets better or stays the same. They are virtually unaffected by playoff defences. I cant say the same for the celtics. Thes
IT'LL come Down to the Heat vs the CELTICS again in the ECF... The Heat can't lose 3 finals. That would be Embarrassing. If KP is healthy then the CELTICS are the favorites. Again😂
I still don't trust Jaylen Brown to not turn over the ball in a tight playoff game. His handle is so loose. You just know he's going to try some spinning move into the lane and lose the handle or get stripped in the paint.
The Celtics have so many ways to play as a team right now. If JB is having a bad game, they will play another way to try and get the rest of team going. In their last game against the Thunder you can see a perfect example of this
Did you watch the OKC game? seems they can compete with the Celtics. OKC looks like the 2013-14 Golden State warriors. Once they break through the Championship will go through Oklahoma for the next decade.
The game was very good but you gotta factor in the supreme lack of playoff experience, it being a regular season game at OKC, and the Celtics have been pacing their team the whole season to try and stay as healthy as possible for the playoffs. Every time a guy has a minor injury in a game they get the next game or 2 off and they still almost always win. I also strongly believe the best is yet to come from Jrue. He’s being asked to sacrifice the most of the starting 5 and is playing a different style of offense and defense than he’s ever played. He’s gone from being the primary ball handler and defending the best opposing guard to playing off the ball and guarding a different position each night. Hell when they run their zone they do a 2-1-2 with him as the 1 and he covers every cutter. It’s wild to watch all the switching and how well it works when teams try and run pick and rolls and can’t figure out that he’ll end up on the guard lol
i think the celtics winning a chip now only depends on tatum, if he finally finds himself on the court and stop ghosting when it matters, i think this roster can even win more then 1 ring, such a perfect match
Bro has 50 in a game 7 and then sprained his ankle game 7 first play against the heat. I get your point, it could always be better. But the ghosting narrative is out of control
Celtics are NOT playing there best basketball yet too. They are formulating a peak in the playoffs as they build and if they win this year, they will be so so good next year. In a stacked NBA this is remarkable to me. 🚢
The Jaylen hate and the graphics are absolutely wild. Why use photo shops or Jrue and Porzingis as Celtics when they have played half a season with them? Plus using pics of their team in the sixers from 2-3 years ago ffs Ben Simmons was in one lmao
I dont need ti convince you if im 46 or not. You seem to be the all knowledgeable one arent you? And you seem to be cowardly avoiding commenting to a delusional heat can. It seems you dont believe in this celtucs team and agrees with that fan.
I agree, Boston number 1 contenders. And I also agree that other than injuries, biggest concern is how their leaders would do. Tatum doesn't seem to be on the same level as Embiid, Giannis, Curry, LeBron, Jokic, etc. And JB is trash. Way worst of Boston big6. Stupid decisions, always takes those fadeway jumpers when Boston can pretty much always have an open 3. I wish they add one or couple first rounders and trade him to smth more decent, like Anunoby.
The biggest issue for Boston is depth, Pritchard and Hauser have played really well. But especially at the big man spot. Horford is old, Porzingis is an injury risk. If they get in a spot where they have to run Kornet or Queta for any significant amount of time, they're in trouble.
Horford is literally the best backup big in the NBA lol And you could say every team in the NBA would be in trouble if an all star on the team gets injured genius
@JaGra-tm2mw Horford is great, just old and plays limited minutes. Porzingis is an injury risk and has already missed significant time. Acquiring another big man wouldn't be the worst idea though they have little to no cap to do so.
Kornet was never meant to be a replacement. He does his job well, KP was barely injured last season. Why? Because the teams he was in he had to be the guy or one of the guys. With the C's hes the 4th guy most nights, less wear and tear on the body.
Not talking shit but we'll see how Miami's zone defense handles Boston when their 3rd option is no longer a 6'4 defensive guard. If Kristaps is healthy it could be a wrap for Miami if they meet in the playoffs again.
Kings fan here. I think you’re scared that if the Celtics make the Finals they will win it all. I pay a lot of attention to the Heat and they are nowhere near as good as years past. Cope.
