Without a doubt, Nada, while making things easy to understand and apply to an individual's use case, you give the some of the most comprehensive evaluations of these drives on the 'net. Please continue the excellent presentations.
I bought the 4tb version to house all my Steam games. It only arrived today and I haven't had a chance to paste all my games over yet. I'm hoping for faster load times. Great video btw.
I just bought the p3 plus 1TB for £42 and the samsung 980 pro that my mate bought the month before was more than double the price. For the price this is an excellent piece of kit and well worth the money, also the speeds for the p3 and p5 tend to above the stated speeds so you know your getting your moneys worth.
Your channel got recommended at the right time for me. I saw this gen 4 4tb model for basically the same price as the gen 3 version, and have been considering it as my big game library, it will only be going in a gen 3 slot, but considering its only around £10/20 more for me, i might as well go gen 4, in case i get a mobo with more gen 4 slots. Considering it is half the price of other gen 4 drives at the 4tb capacity, its good to know that it still performs well enough that it will be perfect as a game drive.
I bought the P3 Plus 4tb. I am very happy with it. I was going to buy the P5 Plus but it is not availabe in 4tb. I have a mini pc so capacity was important.
Thank you! I bought a PC second hand that had 2 spare SSDs, this drive and the WD SN750 SE. I didn't know which one would be the better choice to throw in my PS5 so thank you for helping me decide! (Although it looks like I should be on the hunt for a better SSD in the future! Not to mention a heatsink.)
Just got ANOTHER 4tb p3 plus, for £169.99 A great drive. I have a 2TB Samsung 990 pro as my C: drive, but for storing videos and games, I prefer them on the p3 pluses.
As these are going in a little NAS with 4 slots (x1 lanes each), a pair of these at 4 TB each will be more than adequate for only $209 each as a semi-fast mirrored pair...
4tb version is $300 for black Friday 2022. I think that's a great deal, I can overlook its shortcomings. I plan to use it for games and storing data, so I don't need blistering speed or high end endurance.
I was surprised by the price difference when she showed between P3 Plus and P5 Plus, I checked on Amazon India and there was a $40 difference which is quite a lot. But then when I checked the price difference for 2TB, it was only $4.23. Its interesting why they would keep such a price difference between two models, what makes sense is that they want their P5 Plus market to be larger, obviously for 2TB I suppose.
My brand new P3 Plus failed within 3 months of installation. And I don't even game on my desktop. Extremely disappointed! Now we know why Crucial sells P3 Plus at a low price!
Hey thanks for your work very helpful, your SSD reviews are best. In video you mentioned that later you are going to buy a retail version of this SSD and retest it, maybe you already have? Wondering if the real tested speeds are still way better than advertised. Here in Estonia now one eshop offers this crazy deal 70 eur for P3 plus 4TB !!! Thats unprecedented, allready ordered couple for myself, still wonder if this will corespond to 2TB stats that your tests showed.
I'm currently using the WD SN550 500GB its terrible compared to this, I'm about place order on the 1TB version, ill follow up this comment once I've received it and tested it 👍
Grabbed a P3 Plus for my blade 14 2021 as it’s single sided and performs at the max the blade can do. Crazy thing is it was only £10 more than the 4TB P3 I grabbed but that has gone in Mac Pro 2013 so speeds aren’t really important.
I'm looking to buy the P3 4TB - it costs around 200GBP, where I live, and P3 Plus 4TB costs 240GBP. I've got a Legion 7 2021(PCI gen 3), and only one PCIe slot can accept a double sided SSD. That 4TB P3 is double sided or single sided(as the P3 Plus you bought)?
@@trevorphillips4595 both are single sided which is great! I’ve swapped my P3 and P3+ in my blade 14. I get slightly faster speeds. On offer in U.K. there was only £10 difference a few weeks ago. I’m not sure I’d pay the difference at £40 for gen3 (guess it’s AMD like the blade) but you have the choice of both.
@@richarddcrossley Thanks for the reply! Single sided - that is great indeed - a lot easier to cool it, with a built in laptop heat sink too(which is really only very thin plate). Yes, it's a Ryzen 5800H system - PCIe gen 3. I have two 2TB Samsung 970 pro ssds for about a year, but I'm running out of space ;-) I guess there is no point of going with P3 Plus, as it will work in gen 3 mode anyway.
@@trevorphillips4595 agreed. I was fine with the P3 and it’s so close in performance. Only reason I swapped them was because I was having issues getting the MP 2013 to see the drive and had confirmation on redit P3 normal works. Turns out it was the NVMe adapter I was using which weirdly couldn’t handle the 4TB drives but was fine with 2TB! Save that £40 towards another P3 in the future! I’ve got a similar setup in RAID in my X17R1 with 2TB WD blue drives. I think like you long term I’ll swap out for 2 P3 drives for 8TB. Thermals seem decent too on the P3.
Update for US consumers: Right now on "budget" for say a 2TB you can go with the P3 Plus for $109, an SN770 for $124 or a 980pro for $158. The SN770 did not sustain PS5 spec read speeds in this videos' test, so for games like Ratchet and Clank, probably not the best. So if you want to Run Ratchet & Clank on PC with PS5 quality you can save 54$ or spend the 54 and get the DRAM cache the 980 offers. So as a secondary drive to store games the choice you face is should I pay 54 more USD for DRAM cache? There you go. EDIT: Techtesters can you make a comparison between the 980 Pro and the P3 Plus in the Ratchet and Clank in the infamous rift sequence loading?
Hi Nada, would you like to take a look at the rx 6700 non xt 10gb from either Sapphire or Powercolor? So far there has been only few reviews from a Portuguese tech youtuber. However, would like to see your review of the new card from AMD.
I don't think I'll be seeing a Sapphire or Powercolor card soon. They're not that popular here. RX 6700 XT is pretty low power though, any decent heatsink _should _ do well assuming the brand didn't do anything too stupid.
wait, you are testing all of these on a PCIe Gen 5 system? I would love to see the exact same drives all tested on a Gen 3 system. To really determine where higher gen drives make sense for a lower gen system. I imagine mostly the not so important sequential speeds are cut down by lower gen systems, but better performance, IOPS, etc will still shine through.
@@x_XBurner361 I opted to get a second one when I saw this price myself Lot's of hardware is overpriced right now, but ssd's just keep getting cheaper and cheaper. A few years ago I considered it a steal when I could get 2tb 970 evo for $400.
A stupid move IMHO. It's not like a user cant fire up CrystalDiskInfo etc or google markings on the NAND chips and controller/ram to figure out the exact specifications. And if Crucial changes them later they will be called out like ADATA was. I just find it hilarious that manufacturers think they can hide these kind of things in the internet age where one user can figure this out and share it with other would be buyers.
Ik zit heel erg te twijfelen tussen de Crucial P3 4TB en de Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB (Ik heb alleen nog een gen 3 pcie slot over). Ik heb twijfels door het grote verschil in TBW, maar wil de opslag vooral gebruiken voor grote games
There's very little reason to go with these cheaper drives because they're only slightly cheaper than much better drives, like 980 Pro or FireCuda 530.... Better just spend bit extra and get these newer ones, even if you have PCIE 3.0 system cause you will eventually upgrade and then you'll be happy you invested slightly more before as performance will scale up with your upgrade.
Depends on the region really. Sometimes a budget drive can save you $20/TB or so. For a simple game library or something similar that's not a bad saving.
True , it depends on the region... Here in India 980 Pro costs double to the P5 Plus 500gb 980 pro = 1 TB P5 plus ~ 750gb SN850.... Crucial P5 Plus is a no brainer choice but I Agree n Strongly Support your statement @Teemu Vesala , We Should Always Spend More for Future proofing , just make sure it reasonable
@@r_turner Here on German Amazon 980 Pro was just on sale for 208 euros for 2TB version. Things don't get much cheaper from that... P5 Plus is regularly 220 euros for 2TB, on sale was 180 euros for 2TB. WD Blue SN570 2TB is 180 euros just on sale. So you see no point buying these budget drives here. P5 Plus is not really a budget drive either, its high end gen 4 NVME just like 980 Pro is. I just prefer Samsung over Crucial in general, although Crucial is good brand too (Micron owned).
What are the differences between cheaper and more expensive NVMe? I've just ordered a 4TB P3 Pro and was thinking of possibly using it as the main drive. The other 4TB options were much more expensive. What issues I could face?
@@frightenwanderer7444 Well in regular use you wouldn't notice the difference much or at all I guess. Cause Crucial P3 is DRAMless, it means it will have higher latency than drives with built-in DRAM cache. I would personally still get a drive with built-in DRAM cache as your main drive where you can install your OS and apps. P3 is a great secondary SSD drive for storing your games on for instance.
How would it be if used on External USB 3.x (5gbs) NVMe enclosure under VeraCrypt encription without hardware assistance for encryption? For storing daily backups of internal data... mostly writes, near zero reads.
The various reviews really split hairs on the leading edge. For my purposes, not being a gamer, whether it's 20 or 20.1 times faster than a hard drive or 9 or 9.1 times faster than a sata ssd is a difference you will never notice. Even as a gamer, the difference would likely be pretty subdued. I installed one of these in a HP mini desktop with MintLinux and.. I wait for nothing.
Just discovered this channel. I was thinking how good it is and wondering how I could've missed it, but then I watch this review and there's no mention of the absolutely abysmal native performance once the cache is full (< 100MB/s), which is _the_ major drawback with this model (same as the even cheaper P3). Bummer :/ The SN570's performance doesn't tank even remotely as much with direct writes (though it does tank a LOT faster), yet there was a word about it in its review. I haven't watched a lot from this channel yet, and this video isn't too recent either so maybe things have changed since then, but I think SSD reviews would be even better if they included systematic testing of cache size (static or dynamic), cache recovery time and direct write performance. I mean, the ones I've watched seemed pretty thorough but this one's lacking crucial information (no pun intended) so idk...
It's a worthy consideration, but most PC users won't be writing 400+GB at a time. So outside of video editing etc where there's a lot of writes (and honestly at that point the low endurance is probably also a killing drawback) you're only likely to see issues there if you're transferring the contents over from another drive. That kind of stuff should be mentioned though, since it's pertinent to the same users that the TBW is.
@@GrandHighGamer Yes, most users probably won't have to deal with the degraded performance, but the cache is only 1/4 of the free space so it's going to shrink as the drive fills up, and 200GB+ transfers are not that uncommon in the age of Blu-rays I think. Definitely worth mentioning anyway, as you said at least for the fraction of users that do routinely transfer very large amounts of data.
@@silverplayer7502 The performance drop only occurs during sustained sequential writes involving very large amounts of data, so it won't impact gaming performance. If you already have many large games to move to the drive, the transfer may become really slow after the first ~400GB. Once you've moved the data to the drive, you shouldn't face that issue again, or fairly rarely.
If you allow me to give you a personal recommendation. Having a gamer laptop like that, it would be better to buy an intermediate-level storage solution like any of those mentioned in the benchmarks, rather than buying a cheap-a** SSD like Greens and Ecos. Those are for newcomers and unadvised people with no tech-knowledge whatsoever. You'll be better buying proven SSDs in this channel (even when DRAM-less too), instead of cheaping-out with really low budget models. Just don't buy something like m.2 nvme 990 pro from Samsung, or SATA 870 EVOs. They go bad after weeks or months of use, and there are many Web articles on the subject. Have a nice day.
@@bhushan2k - I must've misread the timestamp. Then thought you were noob, sorry for the assumption. I'm a bit sleepy now. Yeah, I hope you can find a nvme like with those specs to game hard on that laptop. I was thinking of a Sabrent Rocket or the Crucial P5 from the video if available in your area. Cheers, funny guy. :D
@@EarthboundApocalypse yup both are good. Another two in consideration are KC3000 and Corsair MP600 Pro NH. I just loved mp600 series but reviews are very less for this particular NH model since it was launched just in last dec. NH is actually designed for laptop with thin heat spreader (not sink) when space is the main constraint. And It doesn't throttle down much when cache is full while transferring very large data.
I put this in a Orico external enclosure and can't get more than 40mbps? The bios has AHCI enabled and in Windows 7 I get the same speed as on a new laptop also? I'm very stumped. I'm using the cable the Orico came with also. Spent hours and no results. I even found a driver update for the Realtek and still same speed. 😕
With Intel practically out of the game, Crucial is the only alternative to Samsung in terms of ratio price/perfs. As far as I'm concerned, they're the best for home Server or NAS if you want a system completely noiseless.
is it good for a long term? to use with important data.. they are cheaper than wd black, samsung pro, but this speed is good enough for me. i only worry with durability
Hi Nada! I have one of these p3plus drives as a cache drive in my very specific purpose pc its very slow reading only getting around 200mb/s 4.30-5min with big encrypted files of 56gb which are loaded up into ram... I put a samsung 860 sata ssd in and its twice as quick loading in around 2min 480mb/s for the same 56gb encrypted cache file. What would you suggest i swap to? the samsung 990pro w/o heatsink $179 (will put it into the top spot with heatsink or Seagate 530 $159 with heatsink?? or: ?? My local store is PLE needs to be 1tb in size and capable of a lot better load times. Its only short but intensive for a few minutes and data is only written to once in and then read from that location multiple times a week...
I've been very disappointed lately by Crucial and its products. I absolutely do not recommend and advise against purchasing their products. Other than that, it's a great video nonetheless. Thanks Nada.
@@TechTesters I bought 2 crucial drives (2.5 inch) as they were best value and I thought reliable brand. 1 was dead on arrival and the second packed in after a couple months, which to be frank is worse. Not impressive. Bought through amazon so got refunded, and replaced with Samsung drives at slightly higher cost. Only a sample of 2 I'll admit, but I've never had an issue with my Samsung drives, only 3 or 4 over 7 year period.
Gotta love when people leave vague advisories and explain nothing. What happened? Why were you disappointed? This comment does not help us at all and wasn't worth posting without an explanation. On the other hand, this review did help a ton, so I do appreciate @TechTesters on that!
I'm building a brand new pc for the first time. I am thinking of getting this ssd for my primary drive(1 tb for $66 dollars us). Should I keep looking for another ssd?
Amazon have the 4tb p3 and p3 plus on at 350 and 355 euro respectively. As someone looking for this as an External drive with option to use internally as a storage drive on a laptop with 2 m.2 slots at a later date, is this a good option??
Would it be possible to include the 970Pro as well, since it's the only M.2 NVMe SSD with 2-bit MLC-Nand that is still available? Various TLC SSDs already died on me, while my MLC SSDs are still working perfectly, I don't get why no new MLC models are released.....
I do have a 970 pro and i did retest it recently. Ill see if i can add it to the graph of an upcoming SSD review. Will be a bit though, CPU/GPU season ;)
Because MLC is more expensive to manufacture . To make your TLC SSD (gen4*) live longer, I suggest you to buy a heatsink ( The best you can have ), whatever the hardware you have, lower temp always mean better durability ( and performance ) .
this "availability" to change parts as it suits them is low key redflag. It means that if they get filed a law suit for deceiving the consumers, they can't be liable as they did not put the exact specs. If they will swap parts. It reminds me of the Kingston SSD debacle years back where they sent their SSD to be reviewed by youtubers. But those review samples had different parts that made it run faster. Ofcourse those parts are more expensive. Then Kingston proceeded to sell the same SSD, same branding, same name to the mainstream consumers and they were slower than the same branded review sample.
De reden dat ze geen duidelijke specificaties geven is omdat 1 van de grote reviewers heeft aangegeven dat tijdens de review fase, de youtubers de betere chip kregen en door de maanden/jaren heen kregen de ssd’s andere controllers waardoor de prestaties vaak een tier lager uitkwamen en de prijs-prestatie niet meer gelden. Linus had dit toen der tijd al aan het licht gebracht ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-K07sEM6y4Uc.html
P3 Plus doesn't really get hot enough that you have to take it off, might as well leave it on in case your shop ever wants to deny warranty for some dumb reason.
Nothing happened. They stopped producing DDR4 and are now only producing DDR5. That’s why you have a hard time finding Ballistix DDR4. They could bring it back. Micron (Crucial) makes a lot of the DDR4 modules other brands resell/rebrand like Asus PSU are actually Seasonic ones so your memory argument is invalid. No issues with my Crucial 2TB SSD yet 4yrs later.
@@HCGonzalezJr87 he didn't make an argument as much as a comment really.. and crucial discontinued the ballistix branding a while back, they didnt say why, but it isnt coming back.
@@JTCPingas crucial allegedly pulled a fast one with the P2 making it perform slower than some HDDs while commanding the same price and not informing the public. The P2 was as good as the WD blue in terms of price to performance during launch
The algorithm hasn't steered me towards your vids for a very long time. I'm wondering why that is. It's a mystery to everyone except the freaks at RU-vid.
