Quite often, I find that these 'cheaper' models are actually the most attractive of the range. For example, the Oyster Perpetual is simply perfection. As soon as you add cyclops, gold, diamonds, complications etc., I think you lose the essential beauty of well-made classic simplicity.
That's why people love the sub so much. It's simple. No complications but a date. Yeah a cyclops but you can get it removed and it's purely for utility.
Hahaha I thought the same watching this, like the simple beauty with the brand and great quality is so much more attractive than them adding little complications and pricing it 3-4x more makes me wonder who the hell prefers that?
I disagree with your statement about it happening quite often. I do agree about the Oyster perpetual though. It's among my favorite in the Rolex lineup.
The VC is based on the Cartier 1904 MC movement, which I have in a 40mm Santos. It's a brilliant movement with modern features and is the most accurate of all my mechanical watches, keeping within 1-2 seconds per week! I'd be very happy with a VC finished version of it!
It's interesting how you made the point of quartz during your debate for TAG Heuer vs the Omega you had just mentioned, however, the Breitling with a quartz movement was about the same price as the Omega mechanical. Love the channel, hope to hear back from you.
I still feel that buying something from the 2000s - 2010s is the best option. My old Omega Aqua Terra from 2002 was £2300... my current IWC Mark 16 was £2700..a really lovely classic beautiful watch with serious heritage and just super cool.. then there's JLC ultra thins for £3000-4000... Bond seamasters for £3000 or less..... i recently saw a full gold Omega Constellation for £3500 and a Blancpain Villeret stunner for under £4k...When you can get stuff like that, I have no idea why people wait for a year and spend 4-5k on a simple Rolex OP...or even £1000 on a quartz Tag... yes they're solid but no, they're not special, not very thin and not very refined.... I say go older and see what's out there. Buying new is fun, but I'm hooked on value and old elegance. Funny how tastes change. I was lusting after Rolex for years... From the choices in this video, 100% Vacheron is the winner here. If only it was 36-38mm
I fell for a 1926 with the blue indices and it's an exceptionally well put together watch. The case is equally tactile to a Datejust, although the bracelet is nowhere near an Oyster, but critically, it registers +1 second per day on the timegrapher. incredible value.
@@benh715 An interesting observation. While it's generally perceived as more of a dress watch, the steel bracelet and 100m water resistance suggest otherwise. In practice, it is good for everything.
Value wise, I much prefer the Omega. For one, I. always prefer mechanical to quartz. HOWEVER … That Cartier nearly grabbed me into the screen. I just love the neat classic design. You can’t help but project class with that on your wrist. The Tudor also has a clean look. The Reverso, alas, for me, the copy doesn't quite measure up to the original. The AP I can do without. I just don’t feel it’s worth the price.
As the owners of a Grey Dial Deville I can say it's great value for the name brand and $$$, it's certainly not cheap by any means though. I'd vote for that and Tudor. The VC isn't a bad price proposition for a VC but you really open yourself up to a lot of really nice pieces at that price range. Also I can't imagine spending 15k for an Steel/Quartz AP good grief, and I like AP but yikes.
Great video. Omega De Vile date window is at 6 , actually. Cartier has a wonderful weight attached to its name. Tudor to me is the most versatile brand out there, if people think of their ones outside of the boring Rolex like models.
Lol, I'm the guy that goes to Hamilton & Tissot, they're hard to beat. But I also think Longines and Bulova put out some great looking affordable watches for guys like me who are stuck driving 20 year old cars.
No one's talking about Cartier and I'm ordering one right now. The best of like 10.000 watches for me eventually, no matter the price. Ballon 42 in steel.
I went on the good old interweb and had a squiz at a photo of the VC 56 movement, and it looks fantastic. I have to say that, even though I'll never be able to afford one, over time Vacheron Constantine has overtaken Omega as my favourite watch brand 👍
For me, the biggest surprise was the Cartier. That's one hell of a good looking and well finished watch for the price. That said, the Santos line is always what I have lusted after, and sadly, no chance of those being in my price range.
Good looking is debatable but well finished is nonsense. It is a cheap steel case with 30m water resistance and just simple all-polished finish, a flat white dial. Better off in any way buying a Nomos for half the price. Or if you want a brand name a tudor with diamonds for that price.
Tudor 1926 - 36mm, 39mm 41mm Mine is a 39mm with same opaline dial with rose gold indices. The bracelet is 80% as good as a DJ Jubilee bracelet minus the immediate adjustability. I still have my white dial Tudor 1926 in the rotation with the DJ41, Zenith, Vacheron Constantin, Tudor Black Bay Steel, 18k Universal Geneve Polerouter Date, Seagull 1963
I have 2 quartz Seamasters (Red text blue Bond, 2221.80 and a Peter Blake 2264.50. I love how its based on the 60s military Seamasters plus its on the speedy bracelet). I got both in pristine condition for around 2k each. Great build quality, great price, low servicing costs. I want to use my watches and not have to worry about what happens to the them. Love the channel, keep it up guys.
@@jamesrobert4106 Quartz got shammed for being a better movement and getting rid of the art of mechanical. While I can see that argument. The whole point of watches is accurate time. While I have automatic watches, if big name companies offered quartz variants still they’d fly off the shelves. Same build quality, brand name, cheaper servicing costs for your entire ownership. Can’t beat that imo. I do want to get a BB58 tho. Love the looks.
@@ryanfritz8903 I also have automatic watches. I appreciate the skill and beauty of a fine mechanical movement, but to look down on a Quartz watch is nothing but posturing by people who are not genuinely fans of horology. Audemars Piguet still make a Quartz Royal Oak and F P Journe makes the Quartz Elegante. Both VERY expensive, incredible pieces. Nobody argues with their Quartz variants. The Black bays are superb. I have recently bought a Tudor Royal 41 and the build quality of the brand is exceptional. You will not be disappointed.
My challenge with most of these options (other than the obviously too-small ladies' versions) is that they are only appealing because of the name on the dial. Would you really get that model if it wasn't a Tudor? I'm not a big fan of Breitling but at least that one legit looked like something a Breitling fan might want.
But it's 2000pounds for a quartz watch with no precious metals or anything, the cost of production on that watch would be in the 10s if not single digits
@@CAIDMASTEROFPYRO Yep, the value of the Breitling is highly SUS. But it's not a Moonswatch, so I'm sure it costs a lot more to produce than single digits or 10s.
@@nintendokings same. I think its good to ask if you want it because you really like the design or you're looking for brand recognition. If it was a tissot I wouldn't buy it either. Better save up for a design that is distinct and has brand recognition to make your moneys worth
I bought the Tag GMT caliber 7 automatic for a grand ten years ago, (approx) brand new and it is still a favorite. Looking at it now next to my Air King which cost 7 times more (approx), and gets way less wrist time, I know which one is better value. I have been offered 1.5 up for the Tag so it is, unusually for the brand, not a bad investment either.
The 2 hander AP in quartz………I have my Dad’s 2 hander Omega dress watch. It needs a service but still runs. I love it because…how is it possible to hack it, lol 😂 You get close and call it a day. If the watch is a 2 hander, regardless of quartz vs mechanical, you won’t be able to tell. But £18K……….whoa……..I’ll go see about homages on Ali Express 🤪 Really enjoyed this one guys. Good job!
11:54 😆 now this escalated quickly...Tissot PRX Powermatic 80 with the gold fluted bezel and chocolate 🍫 dial is staring through a window 🪟 somewhere afar
Andrew kind of alluded to it... The Tudor has a bog standard movement and a case and dial that look like they came from Tissot... which you could get for a third the price... with a better movement! My vote goes to Omega... brand prestige, exclusive movement, and design that belies the fact that you sorted by price on the website.
The Omega with co-axial is attractive, but I've read that the 2500 movement, the first co-axial, based on an ETA has had a history of trouble. There are various versions of the 2500 so it depends on which one is in the watch. While I assume it'll be the latest, I'm not sure. So, which version is it, in the watch I'm getting? As for the TAG Heuer, it's a good looking watch and WR to 200m is nice. There is no spec on the quartz accuracy. If I get quartz I'd prefer a solar/light charged watch that doesn't require being taken in for battery replacement, and I'd probably go for the emperor of quartz, Citizen. Their titanium Promaster Marine CC5006-06L eco-drive with black dlc, and satellite wave, always showing the correct time. It also has the coolest world time zone with some of the time references being diving locations in light blue font.
That Vacheron is lovely. Out of all of these, I think that's the one I'd spend cash on. VC must have watched this video because the price has gone up to £11,900
My wife has the Rolex 124200 OP in blue. Lovely woman’s watch. Looks great on her wrist. Sporty yet a touch of elegance. The 28mm & 31mm are slightly cheaper than the 34mm. Still have the 2232 caliber inside @ £4,400 & £4450 respectively.
Might as well go for a Longines Hydroconquest quartz for the price of that Tag Heuer quartz. Ceramic bezel and if you go for the previous version you can get it with a 2824-2
The Cartier is insane money for value, you get an 8 year warranty right now and an excellent movement with the Cartier name to boot. Can't go wrong. That being said im still saving for a Santos XD
Was surprised this didn’t get a mention. Yes it’s £18k but it’s mechanical (unlike the AP), its movement is in-house (unlike the VC) and it’s precious metal to boot
Would love to own a Lange & Sohne Odessas. The V.C 56 is a affordable option. Would like to see Zenith vids as a ownership of a few and other brands Great entertaining viewing.
I have a Watches of Switzerland catalogue from 1988 showing a small quartz plastic-cased Tag Heuer (in a variety of colours) new for £79.95. That’s just £198.55 in 2022! Admittedly all the other Tags were considerably more expensive.
I personally don't feel Tag appealing enough to my liking. As they said, with that much value on a Tag Heuer instead what can i get from Tissot or Hamilton. But again if you chasing Brands name you go with Tag (but i doubt nowadays Tag are not so much respectful), and if you seek for a more spec and functionality then go with Tissot or Hamilton. And don't forget Oris and Mido also.
Honestly? I’m never really sure what to make of Tag. There seem to me to be a bunch of watches in the tissot / Hamilton, oris range... a bunch of watches above them (Rolex, Omega, JLC, Gs). And then there’s Tag 🤷🏾♂️
It is hard to fathom. I bought a brand new F1 Khaki rubber strap, Quartz in 2013 for £435.00 Now discontinued and worth more, but I will never sell it.
£3000 for a co-axial movement? What’s the cheapest co-axial watch by George Daniels (or that isn’t an Omega), that’s how good a deal that is… loved this video and idea… you could easily have called this “the best watch from every brand” and you wouldn’t be far off! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Speaking of brands. This reminds me of a couple of young professionals I worked with in LA many yrs ago. They were thrilled when they purchased his and her BMWs, the small 3 series. Fast forward a couple of yrs later they had gotten rid of both cars...saying, the only thing special about them was the blue and white label !
Same I think the Vacheron Constantin is great value for the brand, but the Tudor is definitely the winner. With so much hype around Tudor rn the brand definitely stands out for the money.
How did AP solve the problem of making the quartz second hand hit all the minute markers? (Especially when citizen creates anti backlash subsystems, etc.)
I consider the true value in Tudor's 1926 comes into play on the 36mm and under models. Small watch, 100M of water resistance, and well regulated. For that price point, it's competition doesn't come close.
I'd have liked to see Grand Seiko on there - would have been fascinated to get your take on them as I do think they deliver value for the premium price.
Best value watch I've known from brand power public perspective and monetary value plus good value retention would be, Rolex Oyster Royal Precision, Air-King Precision and Oyster Date Precision, which I've own, hands down. 👑⌚👍
I think what this all comes down to is not just “which brand do you want” but “why do you want it so badly?”. As you said, with some of these watches, you can get all the looks or functionality with a less high status brand. So if it’s the status of the brand, rather than the specific build quality/unique looks…why does that matter so much? Why does wearing the logo matter to you if you aren’t really buying the characteristics that, on paper, justify the fat price tag? (Don’t let me go into where marketing sits on the balance sheet 👀) To kinda rhetorically answer that, I have some high-end wishlist items, and they’re watches where, if I were to wear a similar looking piece by a cheaper brand, I think I would feel like I was trying too hard to pretend I had the more expensive option. And then you’d never want people to look closely at it. That feels on a par with clinging to the lowest rung of an expensive brand just to have something by them. Neither feel like great options. So until I can afford the specific watches I want, I prefer to look for models from less expensive brands (and vintage options) whose own designs speak for themselves.
I went to the Patek Phillipe boutique in Miami 3 weeks ago and was quoted $31,000 for a calatrava. The associate said that was entry level patek. Nice to know there's a "cheaper" entry level
I remember a few years ago seeing an advert for an AP ladies watch in rose gold with a diamond bezel and asking a contact for a price, got a quote of around 25k usd , seems good value nowadays.....
Nice detective work, Sherlock! Both of you are right. Tudor and Vacheron are the values. Andrew is correct re Aquanaut; ignore all the marketing and external associations and it’s more attractive watch then the Nautilus. But could one argue that $23k for Patek quality is the same as $23k for Vacheron quality (using the additional £5k hypothetical from Andrew)? Someone will mention Grand Seiko. You’ve done enough on them. We know the bargain. This discussion is well focused.
I have the Fiftysix pictured here, and can confirm that the movement is indeed stunning (definitely up to the Holy Trinity standards)! As soon as I saw it, the concerns surrounding the ValFleurier movement went away.
Its crazy what different prices brands can charge. For the price of a single base Oyster Perpetual, you can get a very high level Oris or Christopher Ward.
Hi Andrew, I love your videos. However, I have a question for Watchfinder: Why don’t they reply to offers? That’s been my experience so far and apparently, according to several watch forums, it’s been happening to other people as well. What’s the point then of having a “Make an offer button? I would appreciate your comments. Thanks!
I reckon that might be down to how realistic the offer is. 😂 what was your last offer price and advertised price? Out of interest….. to have some context, I’ve offered and been successful in buying a watch with Watchfinder at a reduced price. Not just a completely random comment.
@@mendipfox1650 I appreciate your comment. Whatever the offer, they should reply. No replying is being dismissive to customers, don’t you think? I might look somewhere else.
Great lineup! However, no Grand Seiko or ALS? Title should be the Best *Swiss* Watch Brands! And if Tag is getting a shout out, I think Hamilton might deserve a shout out also.
