The Chicken & Beer Scandal: The Cautionary Tale of the 2011 Red Sox 

SportStorm Me too, I am missing it so much!

Don’t we all😞

Yes, this had better not be 1994 all over again.

Me to but not if it’s going to be 60 games. I don’t think the damage we could do to the sport with these proposed shortcuts is worth it for two months of baseball. We had our chance and the players and owners blew it. I’ve packed it in for the year.

@@alexvratsanos5227 at least in 1994 we had baseball in April, May, June, July and part of August. In 2020 we will be lucky to see anything and if we do we get this really short regular season and a radical extreme playoff with 16 teams in it, Yuck.

I’m here purely for this comment

FIFA is like that asshole kid nobody likes but his parents are rich so everyone tries to be nice to him so they can use his pool.

That was quite amusing, but absolutely true. I wonder if you could add the IOC without any adjectives.

nicolas Caballero sorta true tbh

@@nicolascaballero1320 this is about as true as it gets lol

I know. I mean I love how The Yankees & Rays are fighting for a WC spot when The Yankees are one game back in the loss column.

Great, solid decade as a hitter. Won't get in HOF, but very respectable career.

No way. When Boston got rid of him, they won the World Series. When the dodgers told him to stay ho e during the playoffs, they went to the series, finally winning it in 2020.

@@shrapnel77 he hit over 40 homers at petco. Imagine if he played somewhere else during his power prime lmao

Great hitter and also a great defender. Solid career.

You misspelled overrated

I actually didn't know that. That adds a whole other layer to this story.

@@SportStorm23 Yep, its true. The Globe assigns Bob Hohler to do "investigative reports" on various sports topics where there is some sort of scandal. He's done "hit pieces" attacking Tom Brady over Deflate-Gate (the Sox/Globe owners are Democrats, Patriots ownership and Brady are known to be Conservative and Trump supporters) , the poor relationship between the Celtics and Kyrie Irving, etc. Hohler is very good at what he does, but it is always with a hidden agenda to make someone look bad.

Henry didn't buy the Globe until 2013 though

Henry may own the Globe, and therefore have some editorial leverage, but the articles (at least in the Sports section) being written have nothing to do with Liberal/Conservative politics. Keep that sh*t to yourself please. Nobody wants to start a political thing...so don't make it one. Hohler was hardly the only source to "out" the 2011 Red Sox. Sean McAdams and Steve Buckley both wrote scathing articles too. The details were starting to leak out. Hohler isn't really known for "hit pieces" either...I'm not even sure what that means. He's not nice enough? He writes the truth? He came from a different era of journalism. He was just doing his job as a journalist, as were all the other sports writers who wrote articles about what was happening. This is hardly the first time a Boston journalist has turned on their own team/players either...are they all "hit men" too? John Tomase and Ron Borges wrote about the Patriots and SpyGate in great detail before that story was broken by the league. John Tomase is the one who claimed the existence of the "Ram's walk-through tape" that people still reference, despite nobody ever having seen. Bruins writers constantly sh*t on the Bs and their (mis)management...that's not even a secret. The Celtics are the only team in town who gets treated with baby gloves like "everything is awesome!!". The local media believed Celtic ownership that Kyrie was going to resign, so they didn't turn on him until after he left. Everyone else has their dirty laundry aired for the whole town to read about...and it isn't just Bob Hohler doing it. Nobody listen to this dude. Talking about Bob Hohler like he's a hired assassin called it to get the sports dirt when somebody doesn't toe the right side of the Conservative/Liberal line LOL wow...! He's a 60-something year old journalist who does his job...just like the rest of the journalists in town (except the Celtics). The only things he had right were Francona as greatest Sox manager, and Valentine as a clown.

Zeke D I think Bob crossed the line with this Francona article. Invasion of privacy, just outright not cool

Same. I was 7 years old and 1st year as a Sox fan. Damn what are the odds.

That's a common theory and it kinda makes sense when you think about it.

Scott Proctor was absolutely garbage for the Yankees (and the Blue Jays) that year - he gave up the game-winning HR to Longoria. Theory checks out.

I remember the Red Sox fans accusing the Yankees of this as well.

On paper it makes sense. But NOO CHANCE the Yankees would basically invite the near red hot Rays into the playoffs (to potentially play them in the LCS) over just about the worst SEP team (record wise) and the coldest team in the MLB in the Sox no matter how big of rivals they are. (Sox fan)

@@BNiche It was the Braves (fittingly enough) not Toronto. He was the guy that drove in Lugo in that 19 inning game against Pittsburgh.

2013 put 2012 and 2011 away.

Oh boo hoo you won the whole damn thing a couple years later

Copyright is weird

MLB only cares about the cool stuff and the Dan Johnson dinger isn’t cool enough

@@kylefronheiser7197 Ah Dan Johnson That's An Name I Would've Never Thought To Hear

We did make a video on it! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IxdHPYHjy3M.html

Look at my recent comment

Um … the Red Sox won TWO World Series after this … the Cubs one. I’d say it worked out better for the Red Sox

@@williamkanejr3233 I don't think those two compare to the single Cubs victory, any more than they compare to the Red Sox 2004 win. Red Sox fans, above any other, should understand how huge a curse breaker is.

@@williamkanejr3233 only 2 with multiple hall of famers and never 2 peated the teams had different players besides a few it's like comparing the 01 pats to the 2014 team that the Seahawks

@@digitalutopia1 I'd still take multiple titles over one.

2021 Red Sox is also another team with a good start than collapse

Don't forget Orioles haven't won a championship since 1983.

this doesn’t sound like a collapse moreso a championship team aging and slowly falling apart as the ring window closes

Only thing that collapsed there was Howard.

He couldn't play the field and stopped hitting. I think he was on the 2016 Yankees.

Oh I knew it was immediately heading south when they first mentioned the Carl Crawford deal...

Not nearly as bad of a collapse

Joshua Cohen 9 straight losses is pretty bad... Especially with lots of them coming in the 8th inning or later

@@mattram8695 Yeah except that the 2011 Red Sox should've been one of the best Red Sox teams ever, and their collapse was much worse by both September W/L and September Run Differential.

I'm going to Quote Urinatingtree on this. "Fundamental Total Collapse"

The only reason they weren't under .500 was because Nick Castelannos played out of his mind

Um, JD Martinez?

JD Martinez was a nice signing

@@SmoothCriminal12 agreed, JD is worth every dime plus more

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lmao

If both redsox,rays would have lost then both teams would have to play a tie breaker the following night.

Their plan really is just 1. Draft well. The rest of the stuff just happens.

And it works every time

rocknrallsoul94 Rockero Hate to say it as a Yanks fan but it’s worked like that since 2004

Yup that's pretty much it. Don't know why, but it has managed to work.

@@Matt-pl5lz more like 2013-2018 the other times they didn't overspend on bad players in 2004-2007 compared to 2010-2018

But Rays haven't won a championship. As a Red Sox fan come talk to me when the Rays win one. Red Sox made up for it 2013 and 2021 knocking out the Rays.