@@MetaView7 Because this was obvious years ago. But instead of derisking in time, which would have been in line with Germany’s proclaimed values, they stayed in - just out of greed.
As an Irishman I agree You've been bankrolling dictatorships for decades leading to the deaths of thousands in Ukraine and imprisonments of millions in Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region Shame on Germany indeed
but first question is why GERMANY wants to quit CHINA? Do you have a better option? was it because the USA force you to quit CHINA OR the its most benefits for GERMANY Itself?
Any self-repeating democracy would want to disentangle its economy from a totalitarian regime like China. It is pretty obvious to anyone who’s not Chinese.
It started with Australia…Decoupling with China , their top trading partner just to please the US…It backfired “bigly” and they had to change their prime minister with a less hawkish attitude…The infamous Tonya Harding defense strategy .
Yeah, everyone is basically free to do whatever they want, but it is good to take into account that other countries and individuals are also free to react to it however they want. Fanatec is a German company, but they get parts from China, which is why i dont want to buy their products. Most people probably dont have enough integrity to think twice about such things, but at least i want to TRY to do my part...
@@ruili5579 My phone is 10 years old, lol, and i have only taken the China stuff seriously the last 6 months or something. Phones are also one of those things where you probably cant fully avoid China. Fanatec (a German company that uses Chinese parts) makes sim racing wheels though, and both Thrustmaster and Simucube are 100% western alternatives. Thrustmaster is nowhere near as good as Fanatec though, and Simucube wheels are not exactly budget friendly, with prices ranging from 2000 to 4000 euros - but at least my money would go to an ally.
Such hypocrisy mentioning the alleged human rights violations yet, those same Critics turn a blind eye to the murder and suffering of Palestines in Gaza. Especially the children of Gaza numbering well over 4000 murdered and not even counting those who are injured and suffering.
Gaza is not on their side , so they dont care. Uyghur people in Xinjiang doesnot killed and oppressed as hard Palestinians but they keep on saying that it is violation of human rights. Human rights for them is conditional, wheter you are enemy or friend 😂
Translation: when trade favors the West, it is good. When the scales tilt, well then we must decouple and bring up abuses we ourselves have committed throughout history and point to a record no other group of nations can compete with.
"Xinjiang .... home to 12 million Uyghurs, an ethnic group that suffers suppression by the Chinese governmenr. " How is it possible that the population increases from 8.34 million in 2000 to 12 million in 2020 if they suffer suppression as this reporter has alleged?
When will the Germans who can't make their own decisions really have national sovereignty? How can China establish a long-term and stable cooperative relationship with a country that cannot make its own decisions?
The China market has certainly not been lost... Yet. It's actually up to Germany to decide whether it wants to look after itself or just follow what the Americans want.
Effectively with more expensive energy it would be hard to compete on pricing with anything in China, unless German companies physically move production to China.
LOL! You got your history class from Trump University? Russian genocidal attempt in Ukraine is to be on the right side of history for you? China and the Uyghur is the right side of history for you?
@@Do-not-be-sheep he means no mattee what Germany or the Rest of Europe does, China will ALWAYS be China and refuse to be influenced or dictated by outsiders
The next china is Germany. Germany has a $200 billion trade deficit with China due to chinas unfair trading practices. A study completed recently by the German government showed that if Germany disconnects from china only five percent of their economy would be impacted and only for a couple of years. The impact on China would be devastating
MSM saying bad things about Xinjiang but never going there to investigate themselves. When you youtube and see citizen journalist going to Xinjiang, all you see are happy people and a well developed region. Meanwhile Gaza..... What has happened to professional journalism?
@@yo2trader539it's so easy to hide millions of people from satellite/media. Either china has superior concealment tech or westerners being brainwashed by their govs
Do you know why foreign journalists are restricted? because most of them had a conclusion already, they just go there to find any "proof" to suit their conclusion. Any common citizens from any country can go visit Xinjiang with no restriction at all! You can find many real independant vlogers visited Xinjiang, debunked all those lies by MSM.@der539
I am from hk, it doesnt matter if i am pro or against China. What do you mean by "democratic taiwan"? Is DW partly or wholly funded by the german government?
The question you should be asking: Why should Germany or any other country quit China? To please the US Empire? At least US has a reason to fight and china, i.e. to contain china and remain a sole global superpower but what reason does Germany have to fight China other than becoming a sacrificial lamb for the US against its fight of dominance against China?
I guess you didn't watch the video then, such as the bit where she blamed German companies for failing to keep up and for poor strategy. I guess you just must have an agenda 😉
Exactly, it's all talk, Germany needs to stop all trades and businesses with China, and donate 20% GDP to support Ukraine. Germany started 2 wars, time to stop the third one.
China is now the most mature and competitive platform in the world, not just a pure market or factory. You can leave this platform for various reasons, but you may be abandoned by the trend of history.
What is more important to Germany? Follow the leadership of the US to its deadend in its so called human right? Or its own road to prosperity of Germany.
People were asking the same exact question about Russia just a couple of years ago. History has given the answer. Everyone in the West will eventually have to quit China, because the war that is inevitably coming will force the same style of sanctions that we have today against Russia. The more dependent an economy is on China the more it will suffer from the forced disentanglement.
@@oneiropagides342what's west ? Who decided that ? If that is true then we'll east also quit the west ? I love how china is a nation while west is a non existent mythical country
@@oneiropagides342 russia has borders with europe, china has no borders with europe, u are just trying to please ur master US. EU hv nothing against china, yet EU is acting like a main character, wake up before u become a sacrificial lamb for US.
It's funny how EVERY time China is mentioned you always hear the words. "Human rights violations". I wish for once they would actually explain which one they are referring to exactly... It feels like, If you don't mention it, the RU-vid algorithm will label your video as pro-China and throttle your video so it doesn't get recommended so much.
The so-called de-risking is now in vogue, but what risk is there? As regards the various accusations against China, have the accusors got any proof to validate them?
25-1-2024 German Chamber of Commerce in China: 91% of the companies surveyed have no intention of withdrawing; 46% expect Chinese companies to become industry leaders. The German Chamber of Commerce in China released the "2023/24 Business Confidence Survey Report" on January 24, stating that 5% of the surveyed companies believe that Chinese companies are already innovation leaders in their industries; 46% of the surveyed companies expect that Chinese companies Become an industry leader in the next five years. The report also shows that 91% of the companies surveyed have no plans to leave China, 78% of the companies expect that their industry will continue to grow in the next five years, and 54% of the companies plan to increase investment. The survey was conducted from September 5 to October 6, 2023. A total of 566 member companies of the German Chamber of Commerce in China accepted the survey. The German Chamber of Commerce in China currently has more than 2,100 member companies and is the official association of German companies in China.
17-2-2024 Ignoring the German government’s “de-risking” measures, German companies’ investment in China hit a record high last year Based on the study of data from the Bundesbank, a report released by IW that day showed that Germany’s total direct investment in China in 2023 will reach 11.9 billion euros , a year-on-year increase of more than 4%, setting a record high. The report also shows that last year, investment in China accounted for Germany's total overseas investment, not only did not decline, but also rose to 10.3%, a new high in the past 10 years.
“Principle” and “ethics” are great tools to use to control others and to stay in power. The ones who accuse others being unprincipled or unethical are usually the one who have committed the most crimes.
Germany is on the downward spiral, from high energy cost, US trade sanctions, high inflation, jobless, budget deficit , war and losing competitive market in China.
USA: Germany needs to be independent in energy sector, not to depend on Russia and China. Germany: but then who will trade with us for energy and resources. USA: empty air 🤷♂️
This video is like an off-tune-singalong, with little substance. Do let me know about Germany's challenges and how to overcome them instead of parroting the other side of the Atlantic spiel on human rights. I wish more for more thoughtful content. perhaps, it is asking for too much.
I gave up when she said China is an Autocracy. That shows how little she knows about the operation of the Chinese Government. China is a bureaucracy. The Chinese govt is made up of layers upon layers of committees and agencies manned by the sharpest minds in the country. They spent countless time on meetings and studies and debates and votes, just like any other Western government. One of the major failures of the West is that they discounted China as a simplistic dictatorship, and let them get away. They are left behind, but they still haven't learned.
Germany is a country based on a monotheistic religion. Ordinary Germans living in it have no idea why a country that separates politics and religion is doing this in Xinjiang. They only know that it seems to be depriving them of their freedom to believe in religion, but they do not know that Islam itself has It has a very stubborn tendency to integrate politics and religion.
@@univeropa3363 america did not bait anyone into anything, it was germany who strengthen Russias power and built 2 nordstreams. Dont blame the US for Your own problems. China is going to betray You too, be sure of that
Germany is a democracy? Why it doesn't put the interest of its people first, but rather serve the interest of US. Or I am reading the wrong dictionary?
You either choose ideology or economy. Ideology will cost you, like it costs everyone. It’s weird how fast people sacrifice their values if it means they get poorer.
Because human rights cost money. You think you can give people good free education, good free healthcare, unemployment benefits, retirement benefits, good infrastructure, clean but more expensive energy etc. without money?
China and Germany political systems are indeed different. China is a people's republic, government work for the people. Germany is a capitalist, its government work for the rich
Germany once tried to serve the people well, but on this road of exploration, the Germans made mistakes, so they completely rejected the direction of "work for the people".
DW, when are you guys going to stop lying about Xinjiang The governor of Xinjiang is a Ughir. His name is Erkin Tuniyaz. Many of the members of his cabinet are Ughirs too. Many police officers in Xinjiang are Ughirs. Most PLA servicemen stationed on Xinjiang are Ughirs. Many civil servants in Xinjiang are Ughir too. I have friends for all over the world who have gone to Xinjiang. Americans, Canadians, British, Ghanaians, Colombians, Germans. None of them saw any oppression or genocide of Ughirs. They all saw a a vibrant place full of life, development, growth and prospering. Last year over 126 million tourists visited Xinjiang. People from all over the world. Xinjiang is open for anyone to see. Stop lying, slandering defaming China and Xinjiang with utter lies. Nobody believes these genocide lies anymore. Your government claims there is genocide in Xinjiang, but argues thst there is no genocide in Gaza. Have you people no shame.
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@@oneiropagides342 >> slave labor produces almost for free. Are you saying you support slave labor? Your home and business is virtually full of Made-in-China stuff. In 2019 (before lockdown), 140 million Chinese traveled overseas. They spent $245 billion (That's a B). At the end of their trips, they all went home. Why?
For Germans or anyone mistaking Xinjiang for Gaza in terms of 'Genocide' and thinking of moving to the next China.... That could well be Western China which Xinjiang is part of. Go look at how it is rapidly developing with the same manufacturing prowess (and discipline) shown over the decades by the coastal provinces. Western China can make widgets at triple the speed and 75% the cost of anyone in India. 😂
Seriously, this is getting old. If you really like to cut ties with China, why don't you just announce that from today Germany will stop doing any business with China, all Chinese citizens are not welcome in Germany and all German people will stop going to China. End of the story, so easy, instead of going argy bargy everyday on media. Anyone can live on without the other. I am sure Germany will live on without China and vice versa.
being an obedient follower to another country by abandoning cheap Russian gas is already damaging enough for the economy and the ordinary people, if you are brainless for the second time by decoupling ('de-risking' is just a more flowery word) with China ,it's suicidal ..
If you really care for the people in Xinjiang, you should welcome investment in Xinjiang to provide jobs for the people. Yet, you penalize companies that invest in Xinjiang or hire people from Xinjiang. So what is the real motive?
Fanatec: Id love to buy your wheels if you find western sources for your parts (as opposed to China). Ideally German, as Germany is known for the best quality products in the world. Hats off to Germany 🥰
We Chinese want to cooperate with other countries, not control. Our cooperation is achieved through mutual negotiation, not through war. African countries have the right to decide to cooperate or not.
The post-WTO entry celebration is over. For years both sides operated on faulty assumptions. The West thought that trade would lead to a more democratic China. It didn't (at least not as they expected). China thought that as it grew trade relations and economic clout, that it would get respect and that other powers would somehow turn a blind eye as they expanded their regional domination. They too were disappointed. The honeymoon is over. Talk about "decoupling," "friendshoring" and "de-risking" are fun talking points, but the relationship of mutual reliance is still there. There may be realignment, but those who expect an abrupt rupture of ties are also going to be let down. It's time to just go to the post-honeymoon phase of the relationship.
Good old manipulation tactic if China violating human right than just pull out completely. There so much labor back in Germany why china? Oh right profit, you know CEO and shareholder need the money more than anyone.
If it weren't for China's unprecedented economic growth that the US can't cope, Germany might have suffered the same as Japan's lost decade in the invisible hegemonic hands of the US
We are tired of this nonsense where by Israel is killing Palestinians yet u still bring up the Uyghurs undergoing genocide wat kind of foolery is this. Ntng lasts enjoy the music and make gud friends while u are still in control of the party coz anytime t will be taken over
Of course there are risks when you set China as a potential enemy. China has its own political system, which is its right. Does China discriminate against Germany because its political degree is different from China's?
On the contrary, China welcome Germany investments in China despite the fact trade balance were heavily tilted to Germany favor in the past 30 years. However, some Germany policy makers are complaining when China had some success in EV and achieve trade surplus with Germany.
Yes. The only problem with your argument is that it’s completely flawed. Germany has the political system it has because its people chose that system, freely. China has the system it has because a group of people have imposed it by force. It’s simply wrong to consider the actions of the Chinese regime as representing “China”, i.e. the people of China.
@@oneiropagides342 Don't say ignorant words. Today's Western democratic politics is created by reality. If they can be dictatorial, which politician wouldn’t want to be dictatorial? If it could be in power forever, which political party would not do whatever it takes to stay in power? If China's political system does not constitute an advantage, would Western countries want it to change?
instead of investing in countries that are democracies, developing countries like Brazil, they went to invest in China, they fed a dragon, the same thing the United States, the thought of taking advantage of cheap labor and high profits, you bet, you bet big and a lot wrong. Now they have decided to invest in India, which is great, but they could have done this 30 years ago, but they are investing in India for the same reason as before, cheap labor.
"cars, rare earths, 5G tech -- and human rights" I agree that those are basically our priorities, in that order, if the dash (-) stands in for "profits".
China and Europe have traded for thousands of years and will continue to do so 1000 years in the future. This is just business as usual, as both want a better deal for themselves.
You may not know, there are still 200+ US company running their business in Russia, just rename/low profile/finding proxy/... I guess the only foolish is European... Destroy their own industry by buying expensive US gas, import Russia oil via India and follow US to decouple with China (while US didn't actually do that) 🤣
According to the Wall Street Journal: The United States was the biggest beneficiary of the Russia-Ukraine war, with industrial output increasing by 17.6% and a large amount of funds being transferred from Europe to the United States. But these are not enough to rebuild a complete American industry At this time, U.S. allies need to make sacrifices, they need to be completely de-industrialized and transferred to the United States, and funds also need to flow to the United States. This means that the United States will help U.S. allies make decisions for any reason. America: I need your industry and money, if you don't act according to my will, then I will help you make the decision This is the real world
@@JigilJigil Because their economy is in far bigger trouble than they want to admit. I taught a young Chinese lad who know works for a public fund there. His exact words were "our economy is collapsing"
The language is so well crafted, but wait until Taiwan is invaded and all that economic dependency of carefully crafted terminology would go out of the windows for Germany, in the same way that lifting sanctions against Russia is impossible.
Why would China invade TW ? Unless the US decides to tip the scale … There’s a reason why TW is the only Far Eastern Asian country surrounding China without US military bases or US troops.
China’s political system is different from West or multiparty system. It doesn’t mean China is Autocracy. This is too much of western thinking. They have actually Meritocracy. No one can go up without performance of public sevice thru party lane.
