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The Chocolate Croissant Controversy 

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A chocolate croissant-is it correct to call it a pain au chocolat or a chocolatine in France? Depends on who you ask. It’s a subject of great debate that’s been addressed by the French Parliament and President Emmanuel Macron. We went straight to the people who bake these delicious pastries for an answer. But even they can’t agree. Nous ne prenons pas parti!
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@tanneisarker9624
@tanneisarker9624 4 года назад
I feel like both the "chocolatine" and the " pain au chocolate" people would be mad at you calling it a chocolate crossoaint
@Zanimawl
@Zanimawl 4 года назад
Well it would make more sense to call it a croissant au chocolat, as it is made with the same pastry as a croissant, but it doesn't have the same shape really
@Zanimawl
@Zanimawl 4 года назад
@@kaiwara2002 It kind of does. You know, croissant, crescent.
@Zanimawl
@Zanimawl 4 года назад
@@kaiwara2002 Well in that case a shtruddel is also a croissant, and so is the crust of a pie, or a scone.
@Zanimawl
@Zanimawl 4 года назад
@@kaiwara2002 So it's not just about flakey and buttery then. A croissant is a specific kind of viennoiserie, know for being buttery and flakey, but all viennoiseris that are buttery and flakey are not croissants.
@Zanimawl
@Zanimawl 4 года назад
@I'm about to end this man's whole career True.
@Cynt3r
@Cynt3r 4 года назад
Going down to southern France to yell out ”It’s pain au chocolat!” I’ve got nothing toulouse.
@matthewthorpe9641
@matthewthorpe9641 4 года назад
Cynt3r yesssssssssss
@timber_man940
@timber_man940 4 года назад
Cynt3r La france est fière de vous, tenez voici une photo de rené Cotty. C'est notre Brahim à nous, c'est donc ton ami .
@Dark-pr3jj
@Dark-pr3jj 4 года назад
I wish I could give you a thousand likes, it was a good laugh
@atikonium
@atikonium 4 года назад
Someone got shot because of that
@SQERDOMOONLIGHT
@SQERDOMOONLIGHT 4 года назад
Good. People who say ""chocolatine"" are mentally ill.
@Nabczsz07
@Nabczsz07 4 года назад
The French people: protesting The French parliament: Debates over pastry
@Temulgeh
@Temulgeh 4 года назад
Honestly that's pretty much what's been happening in France for a while
@kylenetherwood8734
@kylenetherwood8734 4 года назад
Let them eat cake
@maxim6088
@maxim6088 3 года назад
I mean ... Maybe if the government was so busy making pastry, there would be less protests
@louise_820
@louise_820 3 года назад
As a French person I don't think anyone really takes this issue seriously, it's more of a running joke.
@origamiandcats6873
@origamiandcats6873 3 года назад
First world problems.
@DragonFanngg
@DragonFanngg 3 года назад
As a foreigner who speaks French, I'd ask for a "pain au chocolat" in the south and a "chocolatine" up in the North and see the horror on their faces.
@KenNakajima07
@KenNakajima07 3 года назад
When it stops being fun let's start asking for Croissant du chocolat
@rajanlad
@rajanlad 3 года назад
They will beat us with their baguette traditionnelle.
@nfspbarrister5681
@nfspbarrister5681 3 года назад
.....you really wants to see the french comes back into napoleonic ways aren't you, satan?
@zazi5094
@zazi5094 3 года назад
Lol, kiddie me in France was like "coco croissant!".... What's worse is that I am half English...😳👌
@Kevinthelast
@Kevinthelast 3 года назад
Nice to see some people still watching GBS even though it has closed it's doors.
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican 4 года назад
STOP I could've dropped my croissant
@aquaabouttogetfunky
@aquaabouttogetfunky 4 года назад
Avery the Cuban-American *Insert laughter*
@mcbonkin3091
@mcbonkin3091 4 года назад
AaH *_StAwP I CoULd'Ve DrOWpEd MaH CrOiSsUntS_*
@localextremist2839
@localextremist2839 4 года назад
I DROPPED MY CWACUNTS
@mcbonkin3091
@mcbonkin3091 4 года назад
This reminds me of the Jimmy Neutron Meme "Quasson"
@honestabe5153
@honestabe5153 4 года назад
Ffs
@RonanCav
@RonanCav 4 года назад
Northern France: Pain au Chocolat! Southern France: Chocolatine! Everywhere else: chocolate 𝒸𝓌𝒶𝓈𝓈𝑜𝓃𝓉
@Emirates1598
@Emirates1598 4 года назад
In Mexico it's "chocolatín" 😅
@jmlepunk
@jmlepunk 4 года назад
In the UK they all say "pain au chocolat"
@notyourdrugdealer4684
@notyourdrugdealer4684 4 года назад
Jordan H I guess I’m not in the UK anymore
@Lucien-dx8rd
@Lucien-dx8rd 4 года назад
Switzerland: pain au chocolat
@anna-lenajanzen2638
@anna-lenajanzen2638 4 года назад
It’s literally just the US
@Qeengish
@Qeengish 4 года назад
That’s like asking Americans “is it pop or soda?”
@champagneproblems1692
@champagneproblems1692 4 года назад
Nichole Vasquez SODA
@Lucas-ho9hj
@Lucas-ho9hj 4 года назад
Pop 100%
@cutienerdgirl
@cutienerdgirl 4 года назад
Just like with Chocolatine, only a small amount of Americans say "pop" when referring to soda.
@visionsofpromise
@visionsofpromise 4 года назад
I just ask for fizzy sugar water
@carlyfallon6304
@carlyfallon6304 4 года назад
It's the cool/soft drink debate is Australia
@Nartorz
@Nartorz 3 года назад
Hello, i live in Toulouse and here are some explanations. Chocolatine comes from the Occitan (South West french regional language, also spoken in north Italy and Spain) word "Chocolatina" which means "little chocolate" (-ina = feminine little). So chocolatine is just an old translated "patois" (dialect, slang) word. Since french people are very proud and tied with their regional culture, people from South West (especialy people from Bordeaux and Toulouse) use it to distinguish themself from people living in in the capital. So chocolatine is part of cultural heritage. There is no debate, both word can be used, and loosing one of them would be sad for french language.
@SamBs
@SamBs 3 года назад
Au Québec on utilise Chocolatine donc vous avez au moins triompher à l'extérieur du pays
@sayorray906
@sayorray906 4 года назад
I was searching about French Revolution.I guess this fits the description.
@honestabe5153
@honestabe5153 4 года назад
Haha
@milasandersen7027
@milasandersen7027 4 года назад
in my next there is that video he is awasome
@larrydahomie2823
@larrydahomie2823 4 года назад
VIVA LA CHOCOLAT
@julesescargueil9076
@julesescargueil9076 4 года назад
I'm french et je pleure de rire en lisant ça x)
@ghostphoto1789
@ghostphoto1789 4 года назад
it is kind of crazy to think that a couple hundred years before this video people were being guillotined in the fucking streets
@sayorray906
@sayorray906 4 года назад
My Country's Parliament:Hunger!Poverty!Economy! Meanwhile in the French Parliament:Pain Au Chocolat vs Chocolatine.
@sagebell6629
@sagebell6629 4 года назад
and my American government: no immigrants! make america great again! build a wall!
@torchgirl7401
@torchgirl7401 4 года назад
Simply Sage 😂 our country is fucked up
@poopityscoop6398
@poopityscoop6398 4 года назад
Simply Sage you idiot trump isn’t saying that he doesn’t want any immigrants in America, he’s saying he doesn’t want ILLEGAL immigrants in America. This is coming from a Filipino immigrant
@tonyshu6052
@tonyshu6052 4 года назад
it's obvious that the French parliament has got their priorities right, who cares about the economy or the living quality of the citizens? as long as you know what to call a chocolate croissant your country has got their priorities right
@feliciamartin9771
@feliciamartin9771 4 года назад
@@tonyshu6052 Lol, so just a few seconds is enaugh for you to judge the entire gouvernement
@lienson430
@lienson430 3 года назад
People debating over pastry is the most French thing I ever seen
@antoineminjoz8318
@antoineminjoz8318 4 года назад
French people in 1776 : Hey let's help out those American guys in their independance war, they seem like nice fellas. Americans in 2019 : "chocolate croissant" French people : WHAT HAVE WE DONE !?
@bruhmoment7931
@bruhmoment7931 3 года назад
Ultimate betrayal
@tsaqifammarsakti7825
@tsaqifammarsakti7825 3 года назад
I like chocolate croissant
@kyleterry5190
@kyleterry5190 3 года назад
And they even pronounce it as "croysantt"
@Wickedonezz
@Wickedonezz 3 года назад
The French didn't care about America
@jonpaul3868
@jonpaul3868 3 года назад
@@Wickedonezz yeahh.. say that for lady liberty, a symbol of France favor in the US Rebel against England.
@AngiePup
@AngiePup 4 года назад
These subtitles really help me understand what they were saying in french! Of course! They were all saying "a foreign language"!
@jauxro
@jauxro 4 года назад
Yeeaaah someone needs to tell them it's ok to leave the RU-vid subtitles blank if _they're blocking the subtitles on the actual video_
@Mido-lh4qn
@Mido-lh4qn 4 года назад
nah I understand french so they obstruct the actual video for me
@srf9865
@srf9865 4 года назад
the auto-captions are more helpful than the real captions Lmao
@sevencats4964
@sevencats4964 4 года назад
Yeah that was really bothering me
@IAR97
@IAR97 3 года назад
Yass, i was frustated 😂
@mine_neko
@mine_neko 4 года назад
Sincerely speaking I've never heard of "chocolatine" until today...
@kalechips3216
@kalechips3216 4 года назад
yeah but like if youre a foreigner what do you think? its mentioned in the video.
@adonaiyah2196
@adonaiyah2196 4 года назад
@@kalechips3216 I'm a foreigner and in my country they're very popular and they are called pain au chocolat
@newzinski6946
@newzinski6946 4 года назад
Yeah I've been to other countries and it's even written as pain au chocolat or pain du/de chocolat.
@lindseyliu2251
@lindseyliu2251 4 года назад
Same o.o
@Aravzil
@Aravzil 4 года назад
@@adonaiyah2196 Glad to see your country is on the right side :)) Jk Idgaf really, as long as they are made properly I'm good.
@kalanaherath3076
@kalanaherath3076 4 года назад
Britain has Brexit, World has Global Warming USA has a hurricane... *MEANWHILE IN FRANCE:*
@Phantastically
@Phantastically 3 года назад
underrated comment :P
@splogxyz3339
@splogxyz3339 3 года назад
are you implying that france is not on earth
@muhammadhafizhfirdaus8344
@muhammadhafizhfirdaus8344 3 года назад
*the pastry war*
@raynemichelle2996
@raynemichelle2996 3 года назад
Comment was clearly before global pandemic
@steppenfuchs5608
@steppenfuchs5608 3 года назад
@@splogxyz3339 yes. France is other worldly. Do you know someone from France? No? Ever been to France? No? If you answered yes to any of these questions you are just part of the conspiracy lying to the public. Just like this video. France does not exist!
@one_smol_duck
@one_smol_duck 4 года назад
Great Big Story: *interviews people across France about the correct terminology for a chocolatine/pain au chocolat* Also Great Big Story: *titles video The Great Chocolate Croissant Controversy*
@OatmealGrillBlazer
@OatmealGrillBlazer 4 года назад
In some parts of the US they call it chocolate bread or chocolate croissant
@bobbiusshadow6985
@bobbiusshadow6985 3 года назад
Yeah, but is it "pop" or "soda"?
@normalhuman78-53
@normalhuman78-53 3 года назад
Laura I think they did it as to not pick a side
@theonlyhassanelahlou
@theonlyhassanelahlou 3 года назад
YEAAAH wtf
@howdareyou41
@howdareyou41 3 года назад
That's because that's the American English translation. If it was titled 'chocolatine or pain au chocolat'' no one in America would know what it means. Should it be the literal translation? Chocolate Bread?
@thebigsad9463
@thebigsad9463 4 года назад
Brace yourselves, the war of the chocolate croissant is coming soon
@thereconracoon3715
@thereconracoon3715 4 года назад
Many casualties
@henrytran3896
@henrytran3896 4 года назад
Who will surrender first
@thereconracoon3715
@thereconracoon3715 4 года назад
@@henrytran3896 my tastebuds
@AD-jq7ow
@AD-jq7ow 4 года назад
Only americans call it that way
@kylem1112
@kylem1112 4 года назад
@@AD-jq7ow or anyone who speaks english. it's a fucking croissant with chocolate in it. chocolate croissant. not everyone speak french. but way more people speak english
@flastnm5551
@flastnm5551 4 года назад
This issue is "pain" au le butt.
@Hannah-dd6bo
@Hannah-dd6bo 4 года назад
F LastNm clever
@andicarusfell8387
@andicarusfell8387 4 года назад
👍🏽
@75yomu
@75yomu 4 года назад
@Soham Sharma r/whoooosh
@januzairamli4426
@januzairamli4426 4 года назад
Noah fence but that was a bad pun
@Hannah-dd6bo
@Hannah-dd6bo 4 года назад
Januzai Ramli THATS what makes you monotonously slap your knee
@TheGamr81
@TheGamr81 3 года назад
Normal people: different dialects exist and different people call things different things The french: what we call chocolate croissants deserves political debate
@jamersbazuka8055
@jamersbazuka8055 3 года назад
I mean, the Academie Française is an institution made for the purpose of language regulation. Another thing they've regulated is how much non-French music is allowed on French radio stations. I'm glad I speak both English and French, so I can either be liberal or pedantic in my word usage and reliably find validation with either group.
@unculturedswine5583
@unculturedswine5583 3 года назад
​@@jamersbazuka8055 You have an odd priority there lol
@paridhi_d9167
@paridhi_d9167 3 года назад
Exactly! It's such a simple thing and idk why is it even being debated! I mean food, clothes, festivals etc. can have different names in different parts of the country!
@knightbot23
@knightbot23 3 года назад
@Amel Bougrouz and even the fries vs chips debate and the soccer vs football debate which is just weird especially the soccer vs football like everyone in EU thinks that only USA says it but my country says soccer than football
@alexandersakhnenko3150
@alexandersakhnenko3150 3 года назад
@@paridhi_d9167 not in France. They have very strict language policy, and they supress dialects like occitan for more than a 100 years
@p.pinchelette2909
@p.pinchelette2909 4 года назад
In México there's a northern vs southern debate whether "quesadillas" need to have cheese.
@elendil6144
@elendil6144 4 года назад
That is actually hilarious 😂
@chrash2012
@chrash2012 4 года назад
Los quesadillas llevan quesos
@yaxcis
@yaxcis 4 года назад
: )
@justtheletterV274
@justtheletterV274 4 года назад
Preston Pinchelette I’m not Mexican and for the 119 million residents of Mexico, cheese and other optional items between 2 tortilla quesadilla, queso is in the name, queso is cheese, therefore, Quesadillas NEED to have cheese. Otherwise, it’s just flat pan / tortilla with other pieces of whatever being dry of cheese.
@shayne-1880
@shayne-1880 4 года назад
As an American, I don’t really understand how a quesadilla could NOT have cheese.... I mean queso is in the name
@STAROMEGA54
@STAROMEGA54 4 года назад
Man i wish this was the only thing people argue about, then after 5 minutes there like let's just eat the damn thing.😚😋🥐🍫
@CynBH
@CynBH 4 года назад
I wouldn't last 5 minutes 😂
@rosegold973
@rosegold973 4 года назад
That would be a perfect world.. if we only argued about croissants 😔
@ylvajade8035
@ylvajade8035 4 года назад
Honestly it looks so good
@kokonana4086
@kokonana4086 4 года назад
Wow, imagine the coming French civil war with those chocolate croissant cannons throwing around. Gonna be a Great Patisserie War indeed.
@mcf5170
@mcf5170 4 года назад
munu numu I would love that too! Yeyyyy happy so much!!! 😁🥳😁🥳
@Arsen4155
@Arsen4155 4 года назад
I would happy to go to that war
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 4 года назад
munu numu "Do you hear the people sing?/Singing the song of chocolatine..."
@whitehorizon2225
@whitehorizon2225 4 года назад
There is an actual french war called the Pastry War. It started when a French Immigrant in Mexico had his bakery vandalised by Mexican revolutionaries and appealed to France for help. France responded by invading and gaining monetary reparations.
@RaymondHng
@RaymondHng 4 года назад
Interesting. It left 127 dead. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastry_War
@kingdmind
@kingdmind 4 года назад
1:43 Ah yes, chocolatine tastes like chocolatine
@chikinwings9872
@chikinwings9872 4 года назад
Ah oui, le français est fait de français.
@ira6605
@ira6605 3 года назад
@@shivanisharma8559 r/woooosh
@yumiamiyumi4181
@yumiamiyumi4181 3 года назад
@@shivanisharma8559 wdym?
@rahmat4848
@rahmat4848 3 года назад
@@yumiamiyumi4181 weev
@rahmat4848
@rahmat4848 3 года назад
@@yumiamiyumi4181 weeb
@canadianwifi2903
@canadianwifi2903 3 года назад
In Quebec we say Chocolatine as well, you can’t imagine how triggered I was when I read chocolate croissant
@ScutoidStudios
@ScutoidStudios 3 года назад
Opinion on "pain au chocolate"
@antoinegx-9185
@antoinegx-9185 Год назад
@@ScutoidStudios Terroriste !
@davidb5205
@davidb5205 4 года назад
*Northerners:* "Pain au Chocolat" *Southerners:* "Chocolatine" *Foreigners:* "cRoiSSaNt" (even though it isn't crescent-shaped at all)
@cettechaineestcloture.1351
@cettechaineestcloture.1351 4 года назад
in morroco, we call it "Petit pain"
@jaredchauncey1259
@jaredchauncey1259 4 года назад
Foreigners: Chocolate croissant (What it's called in the US.)( The French bakery even says it's croissant dough)
@nathanieltabernersmith2328
@nathanieltabernersmith2328 4 года назад
anyone who calls it a chocolate croissant is a wrongun. in England we call it pain au chocolate
@Udontkno7
@Udontkno7 4 года назад
Same bread. So, why not? American English was made to be simple and direct.
@Charlzton
@Charlzton 4 года назад
@@Udontkno7 a Paris Brest is made with choux pastry but that doesn't mean you call it a profiterole lol
@LoudPackNapLife
@LoudPackNapLife 4 года назад
Chocolatine: 1.10 Pain au chocolat: 1.20 I aint French, but I know which team I'm backing
@DaxMicro
@DaxMicro 4 года назад
I've seen bakeries with pain au chocolat at 1.10 or cheaper.
@alexandragatto
@alexandragatto 4 года назад
Makes sense that Paris would be slightly more expensive than Toulouse imo
@vox__ama6458
@vox__ama6458 4 года назад
Im pain au chocolat all the way
@shashachuu
@shashachuu 4 года назад
I live about 170km away from Paris (Orléans, to be more precise Saran) pain au chocolat are sold at 0.90€ there, there's even a bakery that is selling 4 of them for 1€ on mondays. It depends on where you live.
@PrScandium
@PrScandium 4 года назад
Ok everyone shut up The joke was quite witty and easy to get, everyone got the point. Stop arguing about the price and let's take a moment to validate this humorous comment And now repeat after me PAIN AU CHOCOLAT
@chikinwings9872
@chikinwings9872 4 года назад
People who don't speak french: Pain au Chocolatine and it's done! All the french people: *Ça ne marche paaaaaas* !!!
@CanMav
@CanMav 3 года назад
The ensuing riots would make the storming of the Bastille look like a picnic.
@adsjsh
@adsjsh 3 года назад
thats just the bread of the pastry, not even the chocolate.... pain au chocolatine - bread of 'chocolate crossiant'
@QuantumDeathCat
@QuantumDeathCat 3 года назад
Here in quebec its known as chocolatine funny enough, though im not sure if it is everywhere or just in the montreal area
@valentin9261
@valentin9261 3 года назад
@@QuantumDeathCat LE SUD-OUEST A CONQUIS L'AMÉRIQUE DU NORD, CRAIGNEZ-NOUS PARIGOTS! Mdr
@raynemichelle2996
@raynemichelle2996 3 года назад
@@QuantumDeathCat it's even called chocolatine en Colombie-Britannique.
@saintcel51
@saintcel51 4 года назад
omg the language sounds so pretty when that guy is speaking it the “pain au chocolat” guy
@caseycostello4357
@caseycostello4357 4 года назад
Speak English like Jesus did - Jim Gaffigan
@stargirlxx457
@stargirlxx457 4 года назад
@@caseycostello4357 pfft*-
@gibson1005
@gibson1005 4 года назад
As a french guy, calling it a chocolate croissant is just the worst
@gibson1005
@gibson1005 4 года назад
@DikoMan Well no thats just dumb. You already use the french word croissant, why not use the french word pain au chocolat or chocolatine? In france we call a burger burger, not sandwich à la viande hachée
@isaz597
@isaz597 4 года назад
Yes blame the arrogant Americans they're stuck in their ways to call everything as they wish.
@RodolfoGeriatra
@RodolfoGeriatra 4 года назад
@@gibson1005 who the hell cares?
@gibson1005
@gibson1005 4 года назад
@@kaiwara2002 chocolatine then ;)
@gibson1005
@gibson1005 4 года назад
@@RodolfoGeriatra all the people that cares about artisans work. Imagine, you spend 40 hours shaping your chocolatine with skills passed down from generation to generation, and a fucking muricaman comes in and ask : "hello french guy, give me a chocolate croissant", what an insult
@dimitridan8112
@dimitridan8112 4 года назад
OH MY GOD' this debate is everywhere here in France, and I'm glad foreigners can finally understand what all the mess is about
@jasonk7675
@jasonk7675 4 года назад
it's pretty silly tbh, it's the same thing just with different names. not something that should involve politicians.
@jasonk7675
@jasonk7675 4 года назад
@@Nevir202 conservative, traditional people who want to preserve a tradition will fight to their death for it.
@BagoPorkRinds
@BagoPorkRinds 4 года назад
No worries, here in the states, we got a chicken sandwich civil war going on.
@SQERDOMOONLIGHT
@SQERDOMOONLIGHT 4 года назад
They will not understand though. It's also a huge metaphor for the huge growingly battle between farmland southerners who feel ignored vs the paris elite city folk
@kichaa13
@kichaa13 4 года назад
@@Nevir202 well its definitely not a croissant
@Dannybythebanana
@Dannybythebanana 4 года назад
Meanwhile in America West + East Coast: SODA! North: POP! South: COKE!
@pastelpopgacha4815
@pastelpopgacha4815 3 года назад
As someone who lives in the south I can confirm this- or Dr. Pepper, depends where you are
@rinhayashi7685
@rinhayashi7685 3 года назад
Soda. Coke is just confusing.
@studytea374
@studytea374 3 года назад
I assume everyone in America calls it Soda, idk why?
@S3lvah
@S3lvah 3 года назад
Me, an intellectual: "pointless obesity inflicter"
@kiatsikuya4137
@kiatsikuya4137 4 года назад
Doctor: how painful is it? Frenchman: pain au chocolate
@zainhaq
@zainhaq 3 года назад
LOL im way too late but still
@KenNakajima07
@KenNakajima07 3 года назад
Oh, that's enjoyable pain then! what a relief!
@cv6930
@cv6930 4 года назад
Well we can all agree it's not chocolate croissant like the title says
@isaz597
@isaz597 4 года назад
"muricans" 👀
@HotaruChuu
@HotaruChuu 4 года назад
Actually it is. That's the original name, that French people couldn't pronounce as it came from Austria, so chocolate croissant became chocolatine. Pain au chocolat only came later and became more popular!
@HotaruChuu
@HotaruChuu 4 года назад
@decembrist yes. That's the direct translation of schokoladencroissants, originated from Vienna. So technically the English interpretation is ironically closer to the first appellation. But you call them pain of chocolat so i wouldn't expect you to know the history of it :)
@HotaruChuu
@HotaruChuu 4 года назад
@decembrist i literally said they originated from Austria. That's how they were called there. They were called chocolate croissant because they're croissant (made of the same pastry, same dough, same technique) + chocolate. You're calling it pain au chocolat and it ain't bread so if you're going by that logic chocolate croissant shouldn't be a problem. 🤷🏻‍♀️
@TheSpecialJ11
@TheSpecialJ11 4 года назад
I mean, the dough used is most commonly found in America as a croissant. Hence Americans calling it a "chocolate croissant".
@mdimasraditya8492
@mdimasraditya8492 4 года назад
why not just say it "pain au chocolatine"?
@brotaytohpotato4272
@brotaytohpotato4272 4 года назад
*_truuuuuuuueeee_*
@cops055
@cops055 4 года назад
Dimas Raditya not grammatically correct
@colinouille2786
@colinouille2786 4 года назад
so basically, pain au chocolat is bread with fucking chocolate in it, and chocolatine is not fucking bread
@visionsofpromise
@visionsofpromise 4 года назад
@@colinouille2786 that's why theres the word pain which means bread. And it wouldn't be a literal meaning anyway. It would just be a merger of the term from both regions
@oreo3351
@oreo3351 4 года назад
🤯🤯🤯
@alexkas1150
@alexkas1150 3 года назад
Meanwhile, me, a Belgian: Couque au chocolat
@Wendyadores
@Wendyadores 3 года назад
Alex Kas!!! 🤣 J'adore ❤️
@superresistant8041
@superresistant8041 3 года назад
ah je connaissais pas celui là
@YU_meineLiebe
@YU_meineLiebe 3 года назад
OMG!Now I understand whats the meaning of the look I got everytime I was asking:"Do you have a chocolate croissant" at the French pastry!Even my French friend couldnt understand what I want until I show her the pastry! I thought it was my pronounciation of "croissant" that was making the French misunderstood me.😅
@provenxreaperx
@provenxreaperx 4 года назад
UK hit by brexit trouble. Meanwhile in France: full on chocoLate war
@terrymacd2310
@terrymacd2310 4 года назад
My thoughts exactly. British Parliament in tatters & the French are deadlocked on pastry. C'est la vie. C'est la guerre.
@erinlee5936
@erinlee5936 4 года назад
I thought there was a butter war as well. Or was that in Northern Europe?
@provenxreaperx
@provenxreaperx 4 года назад
Erin Lee Yes, Norwegians need to have their share of crisis also 😅, No butter no cake, no cake = crisis
@scythal
@scythal 4 года назад
Chocolatine vs Pain au chocolat - basically the same thing when you eat it! Bon appetit!
@matheusdumont2019
@matheusdumont2019 4 года назад
me: turns on english subs to understand better because im not native subs: covers english subs in the french parts with "(in foreign language)"
@fifthseas0n
@fifthseas0n 4 года назад
American version: “Carmel” or “caramel”
@blahblahblah6810
@blahblahblah6810 4 года назад
Carmel all the way Fight me
@b1ff
@b1ff 4 года назад
The sugary confection is spelled the latter, with three syllables: caramel. It is not pronounced _any_ other way, _at all._ “Carmel” is some Mount out in the mountain ranges of Israel, and a name for a bunch of cities in the US & CA.
@killzmeded
@killzmeded 4 года назад
Except not at all the same
@morrius0757
@morrius0757 4 года назад
Carmel is how I pronounce it.
@N4rkoza
@N4rkoza 4 года назад
Morrius07 its caramel
@kenanwisaksenahudawan4271
@kenanwisaksenahudawan4271 3 года назад
15 years old girl nowaday be like: "Love is like pain au chocolat, but the au chocolate is silent".
@cookie.lover007
@cookie.lover007 4 года назад
In Sweden, it is literally like so: "Pain au chocolat". It has never been translated! And in Quebec, we call it chocolatine 🥰!
@boly6275
@boly6275 4 года назад
Ta l’air cave si tu dit pain au chocolat at Quebec
@nottheone582
@nottheone582 4 года назад
Of course Quebec always have to be difficult 😂
@Bunny-ch2ul
@Bunny-ch2ul 4 года назад
I'd only ever heard it called "Chocolatine" in Quebec. I thought it was Canadian French. I lived in Paris for a year and a half and ate a LOT of pastry, and had never heard it called that before. I feel like when it comes to French, Paris is always right. Everywhere else is wrong. LOL.
@shashachuu
@shashachuu 4 года назад
Boly Pas forcément.. Mon ex petite amie qui était québécoise (venant de Sherbrooke) disait chocolatine alors que mes autres amis québécois disaient pain au chocolat. Ça dépend de l'endroit où tu te trouves, je pense, exactement comme en France!
@sbel6626
@sbel6626 4 года назад
Justement, c’est pas que la France qui parle français! Faut prendre les francophones internationaux en considération aussi
@vitorkk328
@vitorkk328 4 года назад
In Brazil we have a very similar discussion about cookies and other baked goods: "Is it biscoito or is it bolacha". People take it serious as heck, I've seen obsessed debates over and over
@sci-facts3895
@sci-facts3895 3 года назад
French people : chocolatine ou pain au chocolat ? Me, Belgian : Couque au chocolat
@gravitydood1554
@gravitydood1554 3 года назад
Oh god, what next? Septante instead of soixante-dix?
@ldub0775
@ldub0775 3 года назад
@@gravitydood1554 sixty
@PG-3462
@PG-3462 3 года назад
In Quebec we say chocolatine
@nfspbarrister5681
@nfspbarrister5681 3 года назад
This is why french people hates you, belgians.
@faken6252
@faken6252 4 года назад
The great chocolate bread apartheit (France 2019, colourised)
@willb3368
@willb3368 4 года назад
ur all wrong. the proper title is actually: "Puffy French Pastery Crausant Thing With Chocolate On The Inside That Tastes Good, And I'll Have Coffee Too Please." Debate Over. :)
@Skadi609
@Skadi609 4 года назад
If only😂. Till my last breath I'll say pain au chocolat😁
@paystation4pro15
@paystation4pro15 4 года назад
This is the most French thing ever
@someone1903
@someone1903 4 года назад
i saw no white flags...
@P0k3D0nd3M4cG
@P0k3D0nd3M4cG 4 года назад
@@someone1903 too soon m8
@charlesandrieux6951
@charlesandrieux6951 3 года назад
when I go to the bakers in the morning in Paris, always pain au chocolat. but once went to Royan in the south and asked for a pain au chocolat, they replied ''you mean a chocolatine?" so its true its so funny
@conitodhelado1148
@conitodhelado1148 3 года назад
Northern France: Pain au Chocolate Southern France: Chocolatine Spain: Chocolate Napolitan (Napolitana de chocolate)
@LF-hj8kk
@LF-hj8kk 3 года назад
that's soooo wrong
@bmms00
@bmms00 3 года назад
in portugal we say that too!
@Joostuh
@Joostuh 3 года назад
NL; Chocoladebroodje👌 Not to be confused with “een broodje chocolade”
@supermuffinbros4797
@supermuffinbros4797 4 года назад
"Pain au chocolat" is french for "chocolate bread". "Chocolatine" is an original name for a fairly unique pastry. (with it's two pieces of chocolate and it's buttery flavor) The debate comes from if the pastry of this controversy is popular enough to be recognised only by the pretty broad term of "chocolate bread", or if it's popularity makes it deserving of a completely original name. That name being "chocolatine" due to it being the first BIG alternative to "pain au chocolat". I personally think the latter as I feel like "pain au chocolat" was just supposed to be a placeholder name because the bakers had no inspiration to create a name for a pastry that would 'most likely never catch on anyway'. Its only when people realized that money was to be made by stealing the formula and rebranding it to something more catchy that other names were made. ("chocolatine" being the one to steal the spotlight in the end)
@chikinwings9872
@chikinwings9872 4 года назад
U speak french?
@supermuffinbros4797
@supermuffinbros4797 4 года назад
@@chikinwings9872 Yes I do.
@chikinwings9872
@chikinwings9872 4 года назад
@@supermuffinbros4797 Très bien!
@babadook2493
@babadook2493 4 года назад
In Québec we say chocolatine A «pain au chocolat» is bread with chocolate spread
@Zanimawl
@Zanimawl 4 года назад
Nah, i don't think québecquois get to decide what french words mean mate.
@boly6275
@boly6275 4 года назад
Oui au quebec c’est chocolatine et ta l’aire cave si tu dit pain au chocolat
@sismeo1
@sismeo1 4 года назад
Le Québec se doit de rester neutre dans ce débat.....Peut être? Parce qu'a Montréal, les hérétiques de croissant Plus vendent DES CROISSANTS AU CHOCOLAT!!!!!!!!!!
@sismeo1
@sismeo1 4 года назад
@baerleon wow, all this frustration for a joke? The war of "le croissant" is on!
@DaxMicro
@DaxMicro 4 года назад
There's a difference between UN pain au chocolat and DU pain au chocolat.
@iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643
@iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643 3 года назад
Actually, that pastry was invented by an Austrian baker in the 19th century. He called it Schokoladen Croissant. The French transformed schokoladen into chocolatine. So chocolatine is the original name, historically.
@BedroomPianist
@BedroomPianist Год назад
AHA! Chocolate croissant is the correct phrase
@bt4190
@bt4190 4 года назад
In Québec (Canada) everybody says "Chocolatine" I never heard in all my life someone say "Pain au chocolat"... Like 100% of french canadians are team Chocolatine
@Alice-jx7pu
@Alice-jx7pu 3 года назад
Haven't been to all of QC, only the corridor between Montreal and Quebec City, but I've only heard chocolatine. Heck Tim Hortons and McDonalds list them as chocolatine lol
@minuteman4199
@minuteman4199 3 года назад
Which is a bit weird, since the original Quebecois were mainly from Normandy, which is the the pain au chocolate region.
@raynemichelle2996
@raynemichelle2996 3 года назад
Also in BC. Its called chocolatine à l'ouest
@boptillyouflop
@boptillyouflop 3 года назад
It was probably introduced to Quebec from bakers from Southwestern France or something like that... Quebeckers generally come from the Northwestern part of France yes.
@raynemichelle2996
@raynemichelle2996 3 года назад
@@minuteman4199 Also the original québecois came to Canada centuries before chocolatines were really a thing. In fact, the first French settlements in Canada occurred before chocolate even came to Europe.
@LOSTTEMPLAR
@LOSTTEMPLAR 4 года назад
Get 100 of their best costumers, but them in medieval armour and have them fight while the two store owners command the soldiers and fight too. Whomever side wins would be the official name.
@LouisR-C
@LouisR-C 4 года назад
What all french people like me agree on is not calling it a "chocolate croissant". Just reading the title made me mad :)
@jpaxonreyes
@jpaxonreyes 4 года назад
I would argue that, for most of us in the US, the word "croissant" refers more to the puff pastry than it does to the shape (much like the word "circus" no longer refers to a circle but a spectacular show). In that same vain, we have bread products shaped like crescents that we'd call crescent rolls rather than croissants because the dough isn't puffy and crisp.
@SuperOtter
@SuperOtter 4 года назад
tbh we have this debate in the Netherlands. some people call it a chocoladecroissant (chocolate croissant) and some people call it chocoladebroodje (chocolate bread/pain du chocolat). we both know that the first groups are morrons
@Zveebo
@Zveebo 4 года назад
Is "chocolate croissant" a US thing? In the UK it's always a pain au chocolate.
@jpaxonreyes
@jpaxonreyes 4 года назад
@@Zveebo - Looks like they're chocolate croissant in New Zealand and Australia, some South American countries, and a few European countries as well. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_au_chocolat But, to be fair to the US, many places here don't sell them as "chocolate croissants" but rather "pain au chocolat". We just commonly refer to them as a chocolate croissant. For example, I'll ask my girlfriend if she wants a chocolate croissant as well, and then at the counter I'll ask for two pains au chocolat.
@Zveebo
@Zveebo 4 года назад
Jonathan Reyes Interesting. I have had a chocolate croissant in the UK, but it was literally a crescent-shapes croissant with chocolate in it!
@kingk2405
@kingk2405 3 года назад
And the ‘croissant au chocolat ´ also exists it is a croissant shape and stuffed with chocolate and also sometimes some chocolate sprinkles on top . You also have the croissant stuffed with frangipane (sugar, almonds, butter , eggs) .
@pranavkhandekar4046
@pranavkhandekar4046 4 года назад
Thank you for the story... Really nice
@torsten2705
@torsten2705 4 года назад
I eat those things everyday when I work so fk good
@felipealvesdourado1584
@felipealvesdourado1584 4 года назад
Same fight here: Biscoito X Bolacha Greetings from Brazil ;*
@isabeladuleba810
@isabeladuleba810 4 года назад
I feel like every country has its own version of this rivalry. In Brazil it’s biscoito vs bolacha (which means cookie)
@homoxid3406
@homoxid3406 4 года назад
The definition of first world problems
@miyounova
@miyounova 3 года назад
The definition of not understanding this is not an actual debate but mainly humour.
@claireindigo1200
@claireindigo1200 3 года назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@suicidalbanananana
@suicidalbanananana 4 года назад
Great Big Story just made this whole thing worse by calling both Chocolate Croissant while thats a different pastry.
@VeralBoni
@VeralBoni 4 года назад
This has to be the sweetest and most adorable debate I ever heard!
@TXP9
@TXP9 4 года назад
Popular topics in political debates across the globe: USA: immigration, gender equality, education, gun laws Hong Kong: police brutality, political independence France: chocolate croissants
@qianwan8363
@qianwan8363 4 года назад
you're kidding right? the yellow jacket movements still going on.
@supergamegirl43d32
@supergamegirl43d32 4 года назад
And which H0omAn country is more peaceful?? None because I.am.HUNGRY
@someoneyoumightknow2795
@someoneyoumightknow2795 4 года назад
Yes absolutely, we really don't have any issue to complain about Sense my sarcasm
@steverogers8041
@steverogers8041 4 года назад
It's pain au chocolat not chocolate croissant
@HeHe-ko3wr
@HeHe-ko3wr 3 года назад
@@steverogers8041 no it is chocolatine
@armytastic6592
@armytastic6592 3 года назад
Lmao I died when I saw the parliaments debating over what to call it 💀
@boblamb5029
@boblamb5029 4 года назад
´Pain’ in french means bread so a baguette in the butt would be a pain in the arse.
@amiral_tintamar
@amiral_tintamar 4 года назад
Génie
@mrsomething1312
@mrsomething1312 4 года назад
This joke is underrated
@mahfew326
@mahfew326 4 года назад
No pain, no gain
@armytbchaine6515
@armytbchaine6515 4 года назад
Very well explained ^^
@aidanwilcox5261
@aidanwilcox5261 4 года назад
As a french I can conform battles have been fought about this topic
@orangiseng3155
@orangiseng3155 3 года назад
French : pain au chocolat American : pain in the a*s
@BrendadirkCramplescrunch
@BrendadirkCramplescrunch 4 года назад
When in doubt, just point at the pastry and smile
@ZaxorVonSkyler
@ZaxorVonSkyler 4 года назад
It's like the great pop vs soda debate in the us!
@momentary_
@momentary_ 4 года назад
Don't forget those weird people in the southwest that call every carbonated drink a coke or those weird people on the east coast that call everything a soft drink.
@svscrib8922
@svscrib8922 4 года назад
Zaxor Von Skyler there is no debate it is sODA periodt
@fh6560
@fh6560 4 года назад
I don't care what people say this is so interesting(and probably one of the most innocent feud/debate I've seen)
@hirumayoichi21
@hirumayoichi21 4 года назад
It’s good that the most debated matter is about the name of a pastry
@skymox3956
@skymox3956 Год назад
You have no idea how many friendships this debate detroyed
@marioriccardopro
@marioriccardopro 4 года назад
It's the same in Sicily, everywhere ARANCINO and in Palermo ARANCINA )))
@mapleiciouss
@mapleiciouss 4 года назад
we say chocolatine here in quebec 🇨🇦
@MB-cv5pz
@MB-cv5pz 4 года назад
yeah well Quebec is a bit special if you see what I mean XD The french have adopted the word "selfie" in their dictionary but Quebec REFUSES TO DO SO and instead call it "egoportrait". As a french and canadian citizen, I find this almost pathetic...
@mapleiciouss
@mapleiciouss 4 года назад
tf is a quebec dictionary? we just use larousse
@hamzachetoui
@hamzachetoui 4 года назад
You gus say "Joyeux Festin" for Happy Meal.. That's another controversy for another day..
@niamhoconnor8986
@niamhoconnor8986 4 года назад
You also say POUTINE so I guess no one askes a Canadian about food. No disrespect. Well a little, but it's funny so it's ok.
@mapleiciouss
@mapleiciouss 4 года назад
@@niamhoconnor8986 wtf how else would u call poutine?? we fkn made that shit so call it like we do
@rudyspective1870
@rudyspective1870 3 года назад
Okay how about this- where was the pastry first made, Southern or Northern France?
@cptn_n3m012
@cptn_n3m012 3 года назад
Its France. No one knows. The pastry have been there before humans.
@johnscanlan9335
@johnscanlan9335 3 года назад
Growing up in NYC I always knew this delicious pastry as a pain automatically chocolat and this is the very first time I've ever heard the word chocolatine. Now that I've heard this alternative name I think I like it more!
@leviackerman1826
@leviackerman1826 4 года назад
I have school tomorrow and I'm watching this at 3 am -_- I have no life
@sder918
@sder918 4 года назад
jemal nur seems like we're living on the same side of the world.. 😌
@kylem1112
@kylem1112 4 года назад
at least it's somewhat educational.
@rosegold973
@rosegold973 4 года назад
It should be time for u to get up for school by now 😥
@justinye8700
@justinye8700 4 года назад
jemal nur bro where do u live
@DecemberTheorys
@DecemberTheorys 4 года назад
I'd be damn if I were you
@OLGMC
@OLGMC 4 года назад
world: has problems meanwhile politics in France: should we call this pastery pain au chocolate or chocolatine?
@kingkammo6139
@kingkammo6139 4 года назад
Sad
@dorfl9773
@dorfl9773 3 года назад
The youtubes subtitles are completely covering the video subtitles and all they say is "in foreign language". Thanks RU-vid.
@Schilddruse
@Schilddruse 3 года назад
I had a daily argument with my local bakery when I casually ordered a "chocolate crossaint", as this thing is usually called around here. They refused to sell it to me unless I called it a pain au chocolat. Needless to say I am buying my chocolate crossaints now at another bakery where they are not being such snobs.
@theilliad4298
@theilliad4298 2 года назад
Wow weird!
@Jack-ri5wm
@Jack-ri5wm 4 года назад
With all the violence and death and dumb stuff in the world This genuinely made me smile a bit Just because it’s so ridiculous I love it #teamchocolatine
@taz.6057
@taz.6057 3 года назад
#teamchocolatine
@agnesgranier7782
@agnesgranier7782 4 года назад
I called it pain au chocolat my entire life (I grew up in Montpellier, right where pain au chocolat and chocolatine collide) until I moved to Montreal, Canada. Here, everybody calls it chocolatine and I got used to it. I feel ashamed right now, I betrayed my team...
@jpaxonreyes
@jpaxonreyes 4 года назад
What would happen if you called it a chocolate croissant?
@financialproblems9308
@financialproblems9308 4 года назад
I imagine the split became like this : Jacque: ah piere would you like some pain au chocolat Piere: Why did you call chocolatine a pain au chocolat Jacque: because everyone likes it so much that it has become a pain to make every time and when some of them are wasted it pains my heart
@DavidMcCoul
@DavidMcCoul 3 года назад
I lived in west Switzerland for a couple years, and they called it Pain au Chocolat since Switzerland borders the east of France.
@alexanderhansen3232
@alexanderhansen3232 4 года назад
Can’t believe someone took the time to make a diagram map about this
@haaxeu6501
@haaxeu6501 4 года назад
Its a big deal in france lol, everyone grew up and are still eating those things so we're invested
@MoxieBeast
@MoxieBeast 4 года назад
Chocolatine have rights too!
@R2k2
@R2k2 3 года назад
We have a similar discussion in the Netherlands about French fries / chips: The northern part of our country calls it : "Patat", (pronounced somewhat as "Pah - Taht"), and the southern half calls it : "Friet", (pronounced somewhat as "freed").
@tiehl5922
@tiehl5922 3 года назад
I think i have already seen a really tiny area in the east of france where people say (or they used to said) Croissant au chocolat. In belgium they said couque au chocolat
@BabaBugman
@BabaBugman 3 года назад
In Switzerland, we say pain au chocolat and also croissant au chocolat, but you won’t get the same pastry.
@22blueslash
@22blueslash 4 года назад
*”pain au chocolatine”* There. You heard it here first.
@chikinwings9872
@chikinwings9872 4 года назад
U can't say that or else people will laugh at u.
@joseguilhermesantos7148
@joseguilhermesantos7148 4 года назад
Some portuguese people call it "Napolitana de chocolate". PS: It's my favourite pastry. :)
@johnscanlan9335
@johnscanlan9335 3 года назад
There used to be an excellent patisserie francaise in New York called Dumas that made this magnificent pastry and it was always called pain automatically chocolat!
@uglykeysmashes779
@uglykeysmashes779 4 года назад
As a New Jersey native who’s heard fights break out over “Taylor ham” vs “pork roll” this hits pretty close to home
@smileforhiba
@smileforhiba 4 года назад
when I go to France Im going to break the mold and order a "croissant au chocolat"! I wonder how the french will react :P
@liiocxy3406
@liiocxy3406 4 года назад
I don't care what some say I will always say pain au chocolat even tho I live in Toulouse. Team pain au chocolat.
@75yomu
@75yomu 4 года назад
Just say a bread with chocolate....
@woolypuffin392
@woolypuffin392 4 года назад
@@75yomu But its not "bread"..
@matgranu7691
@matgranu7691 4 года назад
hell yea
@19Edurne
@19Edurne 4 года назад
Mmmm, someone likes to live dangerously... You've been warned. ;)
@KJR_Van
@KJR_Van 3 года назад
yall need to do a video on the classic pork roll vs taylor ham new jersey debate
@stayfrosty6290
@stayfrosty6290 4 года назад
US: "So, you either say that a fizzy drink is a soda, a pop, or a cola."
@_.twixxx
@_.twixxx 3 года назад
america: chocolate croissant! france: *so you have chosen, death*
@lemonade3274
@lemonade3274 4 года назад
It's rolled bread with chocolate in it, it ain't that difficult
@mj-dt2lh
@mj-dt2lh 3 года назад
2:48 very well said 👏
@5MinutePsychology
@5MinutePsychology 3 года назад
It’s a very pleasant topic! To all who are struggling with anxiety caused by COVID: these little stories, they give us a few moments of blissful happiness. Allow yourself time for that!
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