The Chorus Shapeshifter - My New Main

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0:53 Paddle Specs
5:36 Materials & Technology
8:58 Performance & Gameplay
10:55 Paddle Modifications
13:21 Final Thoughts
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Комментарии : 109

@iugradmark 13 дней назад

Your work just keeps getting better. New stats, better graphics and thoughtful dialogue. Really appreciate your modifications discussions. Bravo!!!

@pickleballeffect 13 дней назад

John! Your stuff keeps getting better and better! Great review.

@barney9997 13 дней назад

Thanks John for another comprehensive, informative paddle review. They just keep getting better and better!

@sjent5896 13 дней назад

Thx John for your thorough review and info on the modifications you made. I love my Shapeshifter! 🔥🔥❤️

@Viayeclay 12 дней назад

I’ve had the shapeshifter for 3 months and love it. I’ve been looking forward to your review because I absolutely love this paddle and i think you nailed it in your description. As usual, well done, we appreciate you, and like you, I’m loving the shapeshifter!

@kyebean 12 дней назад

Thanks so much for the Firepower metric, I've been trying to sort of approximate that myself based on your database for a year or so, so I super appreciate your thinking and work there!

@pickleballtechdude 13 дней назад

GREAT review John, per uzhe! Keep em coming 👊🏼

@kamanhalim 13 дней назад

Been following John for a while and for John and Eddie to be maining the same paddle is pretty wild

@JordanYeagerPB 11 дней назад

John your reviews are just next level. Absolute banger video.

@johnkewpickleball 11 дней назад

Thanks Jordan!

@groot3371 13 дней назад

I enjoyed your paddle review, especially the modifications you made. I modified my Shapeshifter, but I am still in the experimental stage. I will need to tryout your setup for comparison. Thank you.

@peytonmizera8256 13 дней назад

It was great to meet you today at WPT! You were very gracious to answer my questions and talk shop. Appreciate your perspective and this review is great as always! Hope to meet you on the courts again soon!

@johnkewpickleball 13 дней назад

Hey Peyton, thanks for coming up and chatting with me! It’s always fun to talk shop, ha

@916decker 7 дней назад

Those Slyce handle weights are AWESOME! I’ll never not have one on my paddle again. Owner Dave is a good dude too

@bobbydigital7482 13 дней назад

That’s why ppl love the hesacore so much cause it adds weight to the paddle without it feeling heavy

@kimleith1378 13 дней назад

John that super slo mo was amazing. That was quite a bit of compression.

@johnkewpickleball 13 дней назад

All credit goes to Pickleball Studio on that. Chris was kind enough to let me borrow the footage. Ive been obsessing about shooting an ultra high speed video of a paddle hitting the ball for a while now, and I brought it up to Chris a few weeks ago, and he was like “yeah I did that already but I’ve just been sitting on the footage” 😂

@hudefpickleball 13 дней назад

Enjoy watching your video. John

@juansantiago1441 13 дней назад

Love the Viva Gen 3 👌🏼

@PickleballWill 13 дней назад

Good stuff John! Love that you showing off the Nen abilities of all these paddles

@halohawkxx 13 дней назад

That HxH reference with Nen broski. We gotta nerd out!

@PickleballWill 13 дней назад

@@halohawkxx clearly you been to the higher levels of Heavens arena for catching that haha 🐐

@halohawkxx 13 дней назад

@@PickleballWill I try😅 I'm actually gonna be in Texas around early-ish September for a day or two.

@PickleballWill 13 дней назад

@@halohawkxx I unfortunately won’t be around but enjoy!

@MrDave330i 13 дней назад

Great review as always. Rather than replacing the butt cap, I add lead tape around the butt cap to achieve similar effect.

@joem6010 13 дней назад

I flattened out a 3/4 oz lead sinker and then cut it to the shape of the butt cap. I removed the domed logo sticker from the butt cap and then glued the lead sheet to it. I covered that with carbon fiber vehicle wrap and then added an overgrip. Now I have a carbon fiber look butt cap that adds almost 3/4 oz at the extreme bottom of the grip. It cost me $0.94 for that mod.

@johnkewpickleball 13 дней назад

Great idea!

@mrfofung 13 дней назад

@joem6010 .... now this mod needs a video tutorial. Tennis rackets often have empty cavities under the butt cap, so it's easy to add weight; PB paddles are not so easy.

@_bennieboo 12 дней назад

You should make a tutorial! Great idea

@FromTorontoCanada 13 дней назад

Just ordered one. Thanks John.

@SPWhiteShark 20 часов назад

Enjoy your reviews, Thanks. When will you review the STANDOUT paddles?

@russellmurray8162 13 дней назад

Got my Shape Shifter and added 4 grams to the 4 and 8 o’clock positions but still tinkering. I have a slyce cap so debating whether to add that as well. Coming from my Vatic Prism Flash so all this change is a bit extreme but looking for more power and pop while trying to maintain control we shall see how it goes. Thanks for your fantastic work reviewing paddles it’s much appreciated.

@russellmurray8162 13 дней назад

4 grams tungsten to each side so total of 8 grams

@wolf-xf6hf 11 дней назад

Its really nice that pickleball effect started offering 0.5 grams per inch tape so now we finally have an alternative to selkirk tungsten tape which is 0.35 grams to per inch

@PollySmith_469 13 дней назад

Good video. Still love my Hudef Mage Pro.

@stevenedwards3547 13 дней назад

Great Review as I expected . Can you do a similar review of the Mark 1 x as well. I think it will be very similar to this paddle across the board but with more power and pop

@mediabyhunter334 12 дней назад

Love the Firepower addition! Just wish your database had the Paddletek TKO-C’s to compare.

@MattyRut2922 13 дней назад

And after this review, good luck trying to get one. I have a feeling that stock he was talking about will last long.

@MichaelCarnagua 13 дней назад

Hi John! Great video - I really like the new layout of the spider graph. Looking forward to the next pod as well. I’ve used your database to narrow down choices for my next paddle. I think I’m between the shapeshifter and the Thrive Azul. On paper, they’re similar. Thoughts on “off paper” experience?

@cwarner5909 13 дней назад

Using weight in the butt cap to shift the balance point does make a difference I needed to do that with a couple of my paddles one being the J2K. I can't justify adding another $30 to the cost of the paddle so I remove the stock cap and add a few layers of lead tape in the bottom of the cap.

@Jewwithguitar 13 дней назад

How has your game changed by switching from the Ruby to the Shapeshifter? Thinking of making this switch myself and would appreciate your reflections!

@reddening 12 дней назад

I really like this paddle. Drops are so natural with it out of the box. The only area where I struggle is the serve - I have an issue where the serve sails a foot long sometimes. I feel like it's when I connect with the fiberglass layer but without the topspin you get from a higher spin paddle. Really reining in a good serve has evaded me (as compared to the Diadem 18k or other more powerful paddles) and I feel like I have given up that edge a bit in favor of soft serves with the Shapeshifter.

@TheRealityTwister 7 дней назад

I love your channel, but I would love to see if your database is public and also more details on how you get your stats

@yummybong148 13 дней назад

I was hoping when you said you updated the database the Mark oneX was going to be there hopefully soon

@2musiclover534 13 дней назад

Liked. May we have a picture of how you grip the paddle? Do you hold it so that the butt cap is inside the palm so that your palm's edge OVERHANG the butt cap's edge? This matters to understand the impact of your adding 1 oz of weight to the end cap. Thanks!

@PaintingWithLight-kt2tc 13 дней назад

If I use your mods on my Thrive Azul, would I get a similar result?

@ljgmdad 13 дней назад

Great review - thorough, informative, and generally useful as always. I'm curious, however, why is the Shapeshifter the only paddle that has multiple entries in the general database (i.e. one fully stock, one with lead tape, and one with the Slyce + lead tape)? I would think (and it is my experience) that many paddles benefit from similar modifications. Thanks!

@bippie999 13 дней назад

Have you tried the new Hurache X Control Kevlar? If so, how does it compare to this. I prefer Control and sweet spot, low swing weight over Power.

@snapity8309 11 дней назад

Would you recommend this the J2k or the azul?

@omadscience7358 12 дней назад

Are you using the 1 oz or 1/2 oz Slyce cap? I’ve ordered both and looking fwd to trying. To me adding another 28 grams seems excessive but David the owner states it’s not. It gives your paddle more of a sword effect… what’s your thoughts on this ?

@stymeron 13 дней назад

Thanks for the review, John. Have you considered adding a rating for "plushness" or "feel"?

@jamiespiegl9231 13 дней назад

Personally this is what I'd love to see. Not enough reviewers talk about this.

@johnkewpickleball 13 дней назад

I’ve thought about it, but it’s so subjective that I don’t want to mislead anyone. I did mess around with quantifying it with an accelerometer, but it’s too cost prohibitive

@stymeron 12 дней назад

@@johnkewpickleballso it’s subjective, that’s okay. Maybe give it a try even with only 5 scores from very stiff to very soft (or plush)? It at least tells us something, which is better than nothing.

@jamesnorris2793 13 дней назад

Thanks John. Have you ever thought about adding a percentile grid to your radar charts? It might make them easier to interpret at a glance.

@johnkewpickleball 13 дней назад

They are close, but with subtle differences. The Ruby feels softer and has less pop and overall firepower. And I’d say the Shapeshifter is a little more nuanced, with its ability to play muted and controlled with the soft game, but also tap into more firepower with harder strokes

@brentstock87 13 дней назад

What color end cap is that? They have orange and Hermes orange. Trying to figure out which one matches the shapeshifter best.

@waynekurtz660 13 дней назад

I wonder if the addition of weight changes the frequency or tone of the chorus? I doubt anyone is buying it for the optimization of tone until he proves some science behind that but im still curious about if the sound changes.

@86309 11 дней назад

Thrive Azul vs Shapeshifter to buy if Im a Ruby 16mm guy now who wants less swing weight and more pop

@WorkPlayRest 13 дней назад

When will the hand speed index be introduced? You talked about it months ago and it sounded like it was progressing well and going to be really useful. However, you haven't referenced it in the last few podcasts or reviews?

@johnkewpickleball 13 дней назад

Still in the testing phase, haha. Part of using the Slyce caps was to get data to test the hand speed index

@douglasmurdoch7247 13 дней назад

John, should I get the 28 oz or the 15 oz Slyce end cap? Seems like a big difference!

@jamesmusial9865 Час назад

Great review , currently playing Diadem V2. Could you please tell me the differences between that and Shapeshifter? Looking for change. Thanks

@edwardlacalifornia9634 13 дней назад

How does it compare to the Enhance Sweet-Spot Pro Pickleball Paddle 🤔

@BH-qd4yb 9 дней назад

Great review as usual, John! Do you know if you can use a carbon fiber rubber eraser to clean this paddle with the 18K weave? Thank you and keep the exceptional reviews coming! 🥊

@johnkewpickleball 9 дней назад

Yes, you can use an eraser on this paddle. Thanks!

@RHPDaddy 12 дней назад

Hey John. Thanks for all you do. I have a question about swing weight. Where is the center of rotation when you calculate/measure the swing weight? And just to confirm, while you can get the balance point to near zero, and not adversely affect or even improve swing weight by adding weight at the butt of the handle, doesn’t adding any weight make the paddle harder to swing through the air when the center of rotation is, say, at your shoulder or elbow?

@johnnyi2121 10 дней назад

Looks exactly like the Diadem edge 18k..? Are they the same or look only carbon layer deep..?

@scottsportsman8184 11 дней назад

What weight endcap did you add?

@jeraldjaffee3920 13 дней назад

The face still looks a lot like the latest Diadem. Is there something different about the face on the Shapeshifter?

@metal_bloo 13 дней назад

Wheres the orange grip, and edge guard?

@thomasyoung1588 7 дней назад

Could u do a video on the spinniest elongated heavy paddles for highestlevel play.

@littlebigface 10 дней назад

Can you (or have you already in a previous video) gone over exactly what the slyce butt cap added weight (and thus shifting the balance point) is doing for the paddle? I understand the idea of it making the paddle feel more maneuverable, but is it actually increasin hand speed for everything, or just certain motions?

@MetalEsquire 11 дней назад

wait, is this 'the perfect blend of power and control?" lol. For real, this sounds very close to a perfect all-court: pop when you need it, but feel on drives (spin and accuracy) yet, plush on drops & not overly heavy. comparing to the j2k is great, as that might be the torchbearer at this point. i always go back to my DbD bc what i lose with its lack of pop i always make up with its stability and reset/touch. the new paddles with a combo of materials kev/carbon / titanium (shogun) seem to be the future in achieving 'perfect balance of control with power', its just a matter of preference & almost impossible to pick one without trying them. envy of paddle testers is real.

@liselleguiang7751 11 дней назад

Will you be reviewing the paddletek bantams?

@StevenNeely 12 дней назад

I’d be curious on the same shape review: Shapeshifter, Azul and Ruby 14mm. Question would be, why should one buy one of these paddles over the other?

@jimenglebrecht1579 9 дней назад

John what about the Thrive Azul you voted to #1? Vs your current paddle ?

@juansantiago1441 13 дней назад

Johnkew, debating between the J2k and Chorus… what’s your recommendation?

@wupat81 9 дней назад

He literally compares the two near the end of this video. Just watch it? Ok I’ll tell you anyways. J2K when modified leans control; Chorus leans more power. Both stock so everything solid without any crazy outlier in any single metric.

@lutherbonow5047 8 дней назад

How has Eddie modified his paddle? Thanks!

@blockchainbaboon7617 12 дней назад

How long before the 14mm ruby review? 👀

@Jim-pw9js 23 часа назад

Your specs are almost exact of your review of Thrive Azul. Spin 2155 Azul, 2139 Shapeshifter. Power 55.6 Azul vs 55.7 SS. Pop 36.4 Azul vs 35.3 SS. Twist 6.62 Azul vs. 6.61 SS. Swing weight 116 Azul vs 117 SS. It sounds like the only difference is in the materials, but the stats say they perform the same. Is there really much difference in the play between these two paddles?

@coder6083 13 дней назад

Ahhhhh! still waiting for my J2k from your other review!

@zanep67 13 дней назад

Same here brother!

@kevinlilly619 10 дней назад

Which weight Slyce end cap did you use? They make 2 different weights.

@johnkewpickleball 10 дней назад

28 grams/1 ounce

@vincentszymborski359 День назад

John- Great reviews. One observation: Nothing in the database for Onix (unless I missed it). Played today locally. Maybe 40 players of all ages but skills of 2.5-4.0 IMO. The #1 paddles used by all ages? Onix Z5. By far. Maybe its because it is readily available at local sporting goods stores, or maybe because it’s actually a good, durable paddle that hits hard, which seem s to be the direction the game is going. Any thoughts to adding this popular paddle to the database?

@kyebean 12 дней назад

Something I noticed in your database: Pulsar FX R1 has more power and less pop, R3 has more pop and less power. This is the reverse of what I would expect based on inference and on the results recorded by you and Braden for the other R1/R3s. Some kind of error?

@tyehegre 12 дней назад

what weight was your ruby?

@PickleTip 13 дней назад

In the video at the 1:29 mark it shows the handle length and handle circumference stats inverted. A 7.75" handle would be wild ;)

@johnkewpickleball 13 дней назад

That table is just a little hard to read. It’s correct, but the measurements are below the lines. It keeps tripping me up too

@brianbanks3044 11 дней назад

every time John does a video, it looks like it was ARMS day at the gym...LOL

@novubrown2780 13 дней назад

How do you compare this to black diamond power 16mm in terms of power and pop? thanks

@rickprange1265 13 дней назад

I use a DBD and the new Shapeshifter. They play very similar, but I find myself grabbing the Shapeshifter from my bag about 80% of the time. I realize you asked about BD-Power, but this may give you some idea on how the Shapeshifter plays.

@novubrown2780 12 дней назад

@@rickprange1265 Thank you

@romanhernz3839 12 дней назад

I bought one and returned it! Is not for everyone.

@86309 13 дней назад

Since you were a Ruby guy John for so long , (I am still) can you do a super fast compare ? is it just the lack of pop the Ruby has and the rest is pretty much the same , they seem very close.

@cww180 13 дней назад

I wish it was offered with a regular CFC face and orange edge guard.

@ChorusPickleball 13 дней назад

Orange edge guard is coming!

@Trekkymtb 12 дней назад

I slapped an orange overgrip and edge guard tape on mine. It's looking pretty badass!

@shawnwsl 13 дней назад

kinda sad its still kinda exppensive for people from outside of the US

@92SMIF 13 дней назад

Like this if you love pickleball!

@btreese7 13 дней назад

Here is my biggest issue. Lots of paddles are great and are “my new favorite paddle”. But what happens after 2-3 months of consistent play. My Ruby was amazin, now it’s lost about 25-30% of the spin and it’s not the same paddle anymore.

@gatorchomp9607 12 дней назад

That’s going to be true of every paddle…

@johnsanchez2589 11 дней назад

6.0 is supposedly sending a C&D order to Chorus because of the shape. 6.0 is such a joke. I’ll never recommend their paddles ever again.

@unclbuck79 5 дней назад

The owner of 6.0, Dale, has been pretty transparent about the situation. Is there a reason you're upset about this, specifically? Sincerely trying to understand.