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The Chroma Dilemma 

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@NovaUmbral
@NovaUmbral 7 месяцев назад
My Chroma will outspeed your Wisp EDIT: Combat is affected by DR, forgot to note this but you’ll still run a healing source anyways to offset the HP loss
@ShugoAWay
@ShugoAWay 7 месяцев назад
Yeah and I'll take 3 chroma gunzerkers over a single shock mote troll
@jeremiahjohnson2784
@jeremiahjohnson2784 7 месяцев назад
U really hate shock mote huh?
@ShiroNature
@ShiroNature 7 месяцев назад
banned, unfriended, expose vid coming, took your balls, took your mail, open said mail, wanted for tax invasion, approaching your house rapidly.
@DieterKoert
@DieterKoert 7 месяцев назад
There was one additional function of Elemental Ward, which you didn't cover here in the video (and fair enough, since NOBODY knows of it), but got patched out and I REALLY want it back. Ice Elemental Ward has this Damage Multiplier, which you talked about with the Xata's Whisper bug. This multiplier used to also affect similar abilities, like Trinity's Link, Nidus' umbilical cord, and Saryn's Toxic Lash. It turned tank abilities into sort of DPS abilities. Especially Toxic Lash got real nasty, since the Toxin procs from redirected shots were amped by Ice EW, and still popped Spores. This still kind of works, the Spores are popped, but the damage is now unaffected by Ice EW. I really wish this got patched in again, since it was patched out with the Ice EW + Xata's bug fix.
@ShugoAWay
@ShugoAWay 7 месяцев назад
@jeremiahjohnson2784 yes DEsgusting need to get it out of the game. There is no mission where it is genuinely useful. The augment does absolutely nothing besides waste a mod slot and confuse newer players. It is not useful crowd control (most missions you actually need to avoid crowd control as it only makes the slow grindy missions slower) it's only a single shock proc (also can mess with getting consistent hits for adaptation maintenance) and the most common place you find yhe shock mote trolls is defense where it can slow the mission by 60-80% on average But it isn't just the mote when i say shock mote troll I'm referring also to a type of false build for wisp with way too much range piss poor strength and just enough duration that it's as annoying as possible if you accidentally walk into the area of effect and usually running the counterproductive augment then placing it right in the way of people who are just trying to get things done
@jaylenharris343
@jaylenharris343 7 месяцев назад
Unfortunate too, I love the way chroma looks and like the concept of him breathing elemental fire, ice, lightning, etc. I hope they give him a nice rework.
@Szujhinzu
@Szujhinzu 7 месяцев назад
I feel you bro
@erellunula2746
@erellunula2746 7 месяцев назад
I'm sure DE will come around for our Dragon boi, as in his lore-he was forgotten but he was never defeated c:
@thegreendude2086
@thegreendude2086 7 месяцев назад
Kinda sad when you think about that back then he even got this weird big role in the pre second dream story
@acetamerragna2852
@acetamerragna2852 7 месяцев назад
I feel like Chroma could've been what Lavos had with elemental manipulation, but ended up being a prototype for the idea.
@thetuerk
@thetuerk 7 месяцев назад
Perhaps with Lavos' success, DE has new ideas for how to reinvent Chroma
@themelonman3384
@themelonman3384 7 месяцев назад
@@thetuerk copium
@ptbro3334
@ptbro3334 7 месяцев назад
​@@themelonman3384 definitely copium but we can only hope
@themelonman3384
@themelonman3384 7 месяцев назад
@@ptbro3334 real
@NeostormXLMAX
@NeostormXLMAX 7 месяцев назад
@@thetuerklavos was very unsuccessfull
@tripleaa7371
@tripleaa7371 7 месяцев назад
Still playing him, and I plan on it forever. He was the first frame that caught my eye, and I regret nothing.
@ok_listen
@ok_listen 7 месяцев назад
My man 🔥
@redessencegaming9927
@redessencegaming9927 6 месяцев назад
When I was looking through the list of warframes in the codex trying to pick which one I wanted to be my second warframe, my first pick was chroma and I don't regret it
@RellShark
@RellShark 6 месяцев назад
Chroma fr was one of my favorite I never got him hit definitely one that stuck out to me
@gadiaepps9745
@gadiaepps9745 3 месяца назад
He has the coolest skin imo to
@Chyguy
@Chyguy 7 месяцев назад
I would like to see a total overhaul of Chroma's kit. Chroma is meant to be a dragon. At the moment he does not feel like a dragon, he feels like a mash-up of random ideas that have next to no synergy or purpose. Just make Effigy a transformation like Sevagoths Shadow, let Chroma become a necramech sized dragon or some shit, idk.
@theexurian1079
@theexurian1079 7 месяцев назад
Chroma is a Warframe that slayed a sentient dragon and uses it as an effigy pelt to enhance himself. He is dragon themed, but solely that.
@DiroxOnTheBeat
@DiroxOnTheBeat 7 месяцев назад
​@@theexurian1079 how about effigy making the sentient dragon take over chroma and transforms him into a full out dragon?
@kingoffire105
@kingoffire105 7 месяцев назад
@@DiroxOnTheBeat That sounds sick!
@kingoffire105
@kingoffire105 7 месяцев назад
@@theexurian1079 That is going the half mile and not the full one.. I don't like that.
@iamboringvideos6832
@iamboringvideos6832 7 месяцев назад
@@theexurian1079 had to ruin it didnt you? because i think many of us want to dream.
@daveelliot2328
@daveelliot2328 7 месяцев назад
Another issue for Chroma in team play is when others give him mesmer skin or overguard, making it even harder to set up Vex Armor
@The_Bird_Bird_Harder
@The_Bird_Bird_Harder 7 месяцев назад
I was running the circuit with a qorvex yesterday, and I had 10k over guard, I just gave up on vex armor till eventually he left.
@daveelliot2328
@daveelliot2328 7 месяцев назад
@@The_Bird_Bird_Harder Do you mean Styanax or Frost? Qorvex doesn't give overguard, he gives status immunity, but I noticed that it might prevent retaliation bonuses for Chroma. I was using Qorvex with Nourish and Combat Discipline which gave me the arcane avenger crit bonuses, but wasn't pulsing out the viral retaliation waves as I took damage, while the status immunity plates were active. They did pulse out when I got nullified.
@outrider8569
@outrider8569 7 месяцев назад
Stynax or a vigilant trinity can just make vex armor pain to build up
@Seoul_Soldier
@Seoul_Soldier 7 месяцев назад
@@outrider8569 Try building up Vex armor when you have a Harrow making you immortal every 15 seconds. I only play Chroma solo now.
@outrider8569
@outrider8569 7 месяцев назад
@@Seoul_Soldier I forgot about harrow invulnerability. Trinity is almost as annoying tho imo because 75% dr added as well
@hartantoanggoro
@hartantoanggoro 7 месяцев назад
It's the year of dragon and Chroma still left behind
@kingoffire105
@kingoffire105 7 месяцев назад
We'll see, give DE time, maybe we will see something good this year, they have given Hydriod and soon Inaros some love, maybe our Dragon boi love too.
@hartantoanggoro
@hartantoanggoro 7 месяцев назад
@@kingoffire105 Pablo still cooking and all we will get is the sand upgrade
@kingoffire105
@kingoffire105 7 месяцев назад
@@hartantoanggoro Not sure what to take of that. But I think we just have to wait.
@steadfastscout4606
@steadfastscout4606 7 месяцев назад
@@kingoffire105 He means Inaros is in the oven at the moment so Dragon boi gotta wait
@kingoffire105
@kingoffire105 7 месяцев назад
@@steadfastscout4606 Oh, true true. Lets hope he comes out tasty, Inaros, and hopefully soon, Chroma!
@nev546
@nev546 7 месяцев назад
Chroma walked so Lavos could fly, but unfortunately DE had other plans and took the crowbar to chroma's kneecaps until he could barely crawl. Thank god Chroma is balanced for
@kiro253
@kiro253 10 дней назад
Wtf...putting chroma and inaros on the same level is illegal asf Inaros deal and tank not even half of what chroma can do DE is so fckin inconsistent in balancing lol..like chroma is bad...but Inaros? My god that is bad
@animo9050
@animo9050 7 месяцев назад
God I love how chroma prime looks, like a literal knight demigod of elements.
@LeonserGT
@LeonserGT 7 месяцев назад
Damn, I'm not the only one! I just spiced up a tiny bit with some attachments, but otherwise kept that vanilla prime look, even applied his colors to some weapons 😁
@WorldBridger70
@WorldBridger70 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, I love chroma prime, he's my Dragon Knight. I just wish his underarmor head looked more like normal chroma's, I'm struggling to make it look good with that barred visor
@andreusemanuel4868
@andreusemanuel4868 7 месяцев назад
I'm gonna be honest, I just press 2 and 3 and go to town. Never had many problems but never gave many thoughts to chroma's kit as a concept either. Very cool video pointing stuff I never gave too much of a thought.
@rooseveltmilordjr3520
@rooseveltmilordjr3520 7 месяцев назад
You should do a collab vid with Triburos and Sabuuchi about potential changes to underpowered warframes.
@mimikyube
@mimikyube 3 месяца назад
that would go hard
@Xbx-dp5mg
@Xbx-dp5mg 7 месяцев назад
he's my number 1 on my list of reworks i want i honestly hope he gets all new ability's more dragon themed like overguard like dragon skin. and for his 4 maybe a cast that changes depending on your element.
@h4ven01de4
@h4ven01de4 7 месяцев назад
ITS NOT THE ASH VIDEO, CLOCKS TICKIN'
@NovaUmbral
@NovaUmbral 7 месяцев назад
It's coming I promise, no more polymer bundle gifts I BEG T_T
@h4ven01de4
@h4ven01de4 7 месяцев назад
@@NovaUmbral they are cooomiiiingggggg
@thecastleofnothing7074
@thecastleofnothing7074 7 месяцев назад
​@@NovaUmbralfear it run from it destiny still arrives
@Pyramid789
@Pyramid789 7 месяцев назад
You talk like suicide bomber 💣
@Wonback
@Wonback 7 месяцев назад
Not the Loki video again, clocks ticking
@mechazard9883
@mechazard9883 7 месяцев назад
I hope this is one of those videos of yours that gets outdated because of a buff/rework because chroma is so cool visually. Its a shame this "dragon" frame is a glorified buff timer management sim.
@samreddig8819
@samreddig8819 7 месяцев назад
Feels like the devs couldn't decide between dragon and dragon hunter tbh
@DiroxOnTheBeat
@DiroxOnTheBeat 7 месяцев назад
​@@samreddig8819he's both
@tlkfanrwbyfan8716
@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 7 месяцев назад
And even then he gets beat out by Octavia who is the timer watching frame ft a broken crouch button
@DiroxOnTheBeat
@DiroxOnTheBeat 7 месяцев назад
@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 yea but the difference is, octavia was built to be that and she does it VERY well Chroma wasn't supposed to be a boring warframe He was the prototype of the 4 element system that we would see lavos flourish with Not to mention the extremely fun bonus of being able to bullet jump twice
@brago900
@brago900 7 месяцев назад
The new augment, depending on how it works, could make Vex Armor consistent again. This is enough to fix his current gameplay although it does not change the fact that it is a Warframe with 2 skills.
@theorangeninja6486
@theorangeninja6486 4 месяца назад
I still don't understand why chroma, dragon warframe and master of the elements, doesn't have a fucking dragon transformation for his 4
@FullCaber
@FullCaber 7 месяцев назад
i love how chroma prime looks awsome but damn i wish he had some DRAGON ABILITYS awsome firebreath maybe or some CLAWing melee combos and stuff :| and dragonic slam jams edit: like make use of the wings like some kind of Strike down slam attack from above i dont want to sound lame but like doomfist meteor strike or a phanteon from league XD just excamples
@kingoffire105
@kingoffire105 7 месяцев назад
yeah his kit is boring, give him some dragon abilities please DE.
@DragonHybryd
@DragonHybryd 7 месяцев назад
his original concept had all that. His one was a rush and slam into enemies while doing damage which what ended in was basically an explosion of fire. his two was he had the ability to active a self heal with no stagger and faster fire rate, but that was too op so it was split and given to hyldryn (shield healing), atlas (no stagger), and harrow got the fire rate. even the ability to fly and draw aggro but that was too OP so DE gave it to Titania and hyldryn instead. :/ the only thing that was kept was vex armor. ironically it's what's keeping the poor thing on life support, a tiny piece of the original. his concept was so dang good it was shattered into multiple frames and our poor boy was then nerfed unfairly
@kingoffire105
@kingoffire105 7 месяцев назад
Yeah@@DragonHybryd Poor Chroma..
@zman2994
@zman2994 7 месяцев назад
Maybe they should re-scale the formula to better match like how the new Health and Shield is formulated so that we no longer need 300% but instead get the same at half percent, meaning 150% strength can get you at 1000 buffs while scaling with enemy levels with 200% or more same with ward, while increasing base range. Effigy need fo rescale to equal a credit booster while acting like one to get double or quadruple booster from credit booster from market, weekends, and/or blessing. Upgrade strength to give scaling to enemy levels for damage reduction and dealing. Ward needs rescaling with fire giving overgaurd, and heat stripping electricity gives overshields and increase shield regen, ice damage reduction and knockdown reduction, toxin needs armor stripping with better reload and fire rate.
@kingZazurel212
@kingZazurel212 7 месяцев назад
Chroma should get a rework where his 4th turns him into a melee dragon like sevagoth. His first should be reworked to where fire(shoots fire and lava, leaving puddles that do damage over time) toxic( shoot sludge, that does acidic damage- poison and corrosive) ice ( literally freezing everyone in place, opening for finishers or crowd control), electric(stunning enemies for a couple seconds like volts first ability)
@coldfries8976
@coldfries8976 7 месяцев назад
I'll never forget how excited i was when i first played Chroma and realised he has TWO BULLET JUMPS !!! For that alone i love him lol. Great video Mr. Umbral!
@DiroxOnTheBeat
@DiroxOnTheBeat 7 месяцев назад
Same, even if they do rework him I don't want them to change it, it's just too fun
@brago900
@brago900 7 месяцев назад
They added that in the rework.
@DrSelVonSands
@DrSelVonSands 7 месяцев назад
I have suggested a rework, and you did like parts of it. However, unless a good rework comes out, this is the current chroma we have to deal with.
@rorikozoneroriko806
@rorikozoneroriko806 7 месяцев назад
I do remember he was an A tier Frame until DE demoted him and become C+ by max
@ellieswagaye
@ellieswagaye 7 месяцев назад
This guy was like one of the most powerful and talked about frames last time I was playing. Damn this game moves so fast sometimes
@brago900
@brago900 7 месяцев назад
He's still strong, it's just that two of his abilities are useless and many people find it boring to play with a warframe that all he does is stack buffs and let himself get beaten up.
@ellieswagaye
@ellieswagaye 7 месяцев назад
@@brago900 well that’s good to hear since I’ve just got chroma prime sitting in my foundry. Heard he’s still a top pick for eidolon hunts
@NorthInium
@NorthInium 5 месяцев назад
@@ellieswagaye Profit Taker more so than Eidolons.
@SusloNick
@SusloNick 7 месяцев назад
Damn good proper beakdown with all the history (which most modern players dont even know how Chroma was 'unintentionally' good because his buffs used to be multiplicative). He needs a rework/update more than Inaros.
@Mr0wO
@Mr0wO 7 месяцев назад
im so glad to see people talking about chroma
@SmoothTurtle840
@SmoothTurtle840 7 месяцев назад
I can’t help but think DE often forgets Chroma exists. He has received so many buffs and nerfs because of changes that indirectly affected him, such as self-damage removal, double Exodia Contagion, Fortified Will, and even Elemental Ward keeping the old stat scaling after Abyss of Dagath.
@OzzyOsbourneFan999
@OzzyOsbourneFan999 7 месяцев назад
Still sour about the change to Vex Armor. Their reason for changing of "It wasn't in line with how all the other dmg buffs worked so we made it more in line with them" when Roar and Eclipse STILL exists. Chroma is actually THE reason i started to play Warframe as i randomly saw his trailer on PS4 and went "Yes, i'll play that". I've played as him a LOT which my account merging showed. Before the merge Chroma and his prime were 3rd and 4th. After merging Chroma jumped to first and Prime stayed at 4th as he was not released until after i moved to PC.
@TheOnlyOneDed
@TheOnlyOneDed 7 месяцев назад
Chroma is a walking primed serration that is capable of holding your weapons. Im gonna be mad if he does not get reworked after Inaros. He needs it even more than... Even more than my beloved Banshee 😢
@Frostman1255
@Frostman1255 7 месяцев назад
I loved your wrap up. she's not.. bad. Just a bit finicky and needs alot of investment
@nicholashritcu7236
@nicholashritcu7236 7 месяцев назад
im like MR 6 and barely understand half the stuff you say but i still eat and watch
@RedLizard9898
@RedLizard9898 7 месяцев назад
Chroma video, lets go. Haven't watched the video yet but woo yeah
@RedLizard9898
@RedLizard9898 7 месяцев назад
I see... Yeah
@Voldrim359
@Voldrim359 4 месяца назад
I just have to say that if Chroma has to be a dragon frame, then be a dragon frame, like... A real dragon... Yes, i know his coat is from a sentient with the form of a dragon, still... He needs really a full rework because he doesn't do too much as others now do
@sawyerpartney
@sawyerpartney 7 месяцев назад
Babe wake up NovaUmbral just dropped a new video
@thegreendude2086
@thegreendude2086 7 месяцев назад
Kinda crazy that Chroma is one dimensional while his whole kit was obviously meant to be versatile. Changing elements could be a way to take advantage of enemy resistances and weaknesses or the different kind of buffs he can give. It feels like the point of the character got completely lost.
@thorveim1174
@thorveim1174 6 месяцев назад
what saves chroma is that he may still be the best frame out there for someone that just want to use weapons. he benefits both guns and melee, on a good duration with bonuses far stronger than what other frames have access to and all on a tanky package. It's like a rhino without the CC or overguard, but that hits way harder. It's not the identity it should have, but no other frame fits that niche still all centered around his 3
@bradenbeattie8647
@bradenbeattie8647 7 месяцев назад
you forgot to mention vex armor and elemental ward might as well two halves of the same ability, pablo please save my boy ;_;
@jovilo2641
@jovilo2641 7 месяцев назад
I wish chroma was more like a dragon like give him the ability to fly around like a dragon I call it dragon arch wing and I wish he could attack with fire balls that scale with strength and if anybody here's plays monster hunter world I wish he was more like fatalis the black dragon his fire powers are insane chroma needs a rework
@verumnosgrohiik926
@verumnosgrohiik926 7 месяцев назад
I remember getting into a survival mission with some randoms, just to begin to beg them to not use their abilities as it was a Styanax stacking Overguard, a Frost stacking Overguard, and a Hildryn perma-charging everyone's shields while I was playing Chroma. I just had to stop using my abilities because there was literally nothing I could do to stack Vex armor since that all had so much range.
@andycampbell8622
@andycampbell8622 5 месяцев назад
Tanky elemental dragon is a great theme, a rework wouldn’t be hard to imagine
@SeekerOfTux
@SeekerOfTux 7 месяцев назад
One of the reasons I quit warframe way back in 2021. Chroma, ash and zephyr were my fav frames, i took them for 3h MOT runs back then. We were promised a rework way back when they nerfed him in 2017, its sad to see that this promise was abandoned.
@dzjayy
@dzjayy 7 месяцев назад
you quit becuase they nerfed one frame lol
@SeekerOfTux
@SeekerOfTux 7 месяцев назад
@@dzjayy Chroma has always been strong even after the nerf (1.2k damage and 1.5k armor was never bad especially in void relic runs where with a nidus you could quadruple that buff and maintain it for hours, pair that with adaptation and fire elemental ward and you're EHP was more then high enough to tank anything, if you died after 3h of MoT thats just skill issue) and as I said I used other frames. The main reason I quit was cause after 3k hours and MR 27 I was tired of DE not delivering on their promises. Melee 3.0 kept being delayed, leeches released in a poor state, PoE and fortuna were empty and railjack kinda sucked for me and in general I was tired of farming for pointless things, so I left for better games like Doom Eternal, Monster hunter, Nioh and more.
@eventhorizon9598
@eventhorizon9598 Месяц назад
There was a short period of time, where Chroma's 4 doubled also mission credits reward allowing you to get 50k Credits in under 5 minutes on a dark sector defense Mission on Pluto e.g. Well, there was a time where credit farming was really a thing.
@botobop
@botobop 7 месяцев назад
I remember when everyone had a Chroma in their squads back in the day when prime frames were also ridiculously expensive.
@arceusdominus2612
@arceusdominus2612 7 месяцев назад
Imagine being able to turn into a half dragon, or the pelt being a whole different companion.
@veloza2121
@veloza2121 7 месяцев назад
I think there could be easy fixes. Change spectral scream into a one use ability instead of continuous fire breath. And make spectral scream apply elemental damage for all weapons. Elemental ward could theoretically stay the same. Or instead, combine elemental ward and vex armor into one ability. I say this because it’s extremely annoying to recast two abilities over and over and over again, even one of them doesn’t recast so that would be a plus. Third ability can be effigy. And fourth ability can be channeled ability. Whenever chroma takes enough damage, a rage meter will build and once it’s full, he can unleash the dragon and become a controllable creature, similar to sevagoth’s fourth ability.
@tratamarack441
@tratamarack441 3 месяца назад
Pablo, please! We've been coping with this lizard that have only 2 real skill for almost a decade! Its the year of the dragon ffs, and you've cashed in his year-of-dragon skin! Grant us lizards this rework and turn us into actual dragons!!!
@shadow26508
@shadow26508 7 месяцев назад
even in 2024, my boy still not getting the respect he deserves. great vid, hope he gets a rework soon
@robinlefebvre4816
@robinlefebvre4816 7 месяцев назад
Keep 1 add a held version to buff weapon with toggled element, 2 keep the buffs add spectral wings more movement speed reload speed etc. And it fears enemies in a SMALL aoe around yourself 3 give hom a hoard ability grouping ressources and enemies with a big aoe element damage 4 keep effigy it stays on one point and its chanfed to a elden ring like dragon head doing a huge breath attack of all elements, it also buff ressource drop when combiner with his 3rd. There you go dragon themed relevant to the actual meta and keeps his strong suit.
@olivierdols5556
@olivierdols5556 7 месяцев назад
His first should be kinda like dagaths Doom where he force procs your chosen element in a conical shape forward, these enemies would instantly get the elements effect (unless they have overguard) electric stun, cold frozen, heat stagger ect..
@dzjayy
@dzjayy 7 месяцев назад
or just use dagath
@katakesh8566
@katakesh8566 7 месяцев назад
‐Link his elemental wheel to Elemental Ward and have it so you can use 2 wards simultaneously ‐Combine Spectral Scream(tap) and Effigy(hold), maybe make it function like a sentinel -Have Spectral Scream scale; priming is great and all but is it really that useful. Also rework Afterburner augment That frees up an ability slot for a mobility ability or something more suitable. Also isnt Chroma lore-wise linked with Hunhow? Maybe a Sentient Roar akin to Terrify. Idk. Love dragons, love Chroma, but his kit is mostly just Vex Armor. And Vex Armor is great😎
@manrommav9240
@manrommav9240 7 месяцев назад
Master of elements? No, it's Lavos. Weapon master? No, it's Rhino and Kullervo and Xaku and Harrow and... Well, there's a lot. Cool 2 in 1 frame with his dragon skin working separatly? No, it's Sevagoth. Unkillable tank? Well, we all know. Loot frame? Well, only for credits.
@zeeb2190
@zeeb2190 7 месяцев назад
I'd argue that 3rd thing being closer to equinox
@BoisegangGaming
@BoisegangGaming 7 месяцев назад
Chroma is kind of stuck between a bunch of concepts: - dragonslaying knight - elemental master - dragon If I was to rework Chroma, i'd focus on the first 2 and have #3 relegated to, well, the Sentient Dragon pelt. In short, as much as i like the Triple Jump for Chroma, it really is just tacked on. Rather, his passive should be that he deals increased damage to Eximus units and Bosses (multiplicative). Spectral Scream could remain as it is, but hooked onto the Effigy: while attached, it acts as it does now, but when Chroma has it deployed, it replaces the beam. Effigy should act akin to an exalted sentinel while it is channeled. When it is not deployed, Chroma would gain a Triple-Jump, but it can be deployed as either a stationary turret or to hover next to him like a sentinel. Upon killing an Eximus, the Effigy absorbs its essence, gaining its effect for a short time (the triple jump and eximus absorption would be precepts). The Effigy, when deployed, would also extend Chroma's Elemental Ward and Vex Armor auras around it.
@Spambot27374
@Spambot27374 7 месяцев назад
Every dev streams I've been posting we need a chroma rework
@dontassociate
@dontassociate 7 месяцев назад
His new passive is a joke too oh man you can jump one more time
@omarbrowne1586
@omarbrowne1586 7 месяцев назад
Ikrr like wth of all things de think we be a good passive for us to use is triple jump like really
@RedLizard9898
@RedLizard9898 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, it's just salt in the wound because that's the only new thing that came with the "rework". Everything else was just QoL, not a real rework :/
@RedLizard9898
@RedLizard9898 7 месяцев назад
However I must say it's very satisfying to use because of the mobility you get from the 2 bulletjumps and one jump. It's good, but I wish we got a ACTUAL reworked kit along with it
@dontassociate
@dontassociate 7 месяцев назад
@@RedLizard9898 if you remember to use it since hes one of only 3 ways to get extra jumps
@fungus1005
@fungus1005 7 месяцев назад
Chroma has potential (and looks) to be such a cool warframe. I wish there was an easier method to balance older warframes than the full-rework that so many of them need
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 7 месяцев назад
Very well said. This is exactly how I feel about Chroma. He is by far the most uninteractive warframe in the game. In general he is still pretty strong because all he has is stats. Stats are numbers that help you deal more damage and take less damage so no matter what he can stay strong and relevant. But he is just that, a moving stat checker. His kit feels so underwhelming and when you think of a "Dragon" warframe that has no dragon like abilities. Why does his vex armor not change his appearance at all, you could easily give him some kind of scales or make his skin harder or even something completely different? Why do we still have this 4th ability? Why does his 1 not let you buff your weapon with whatever element you have chosen? These are things Chroma needs to come back not necessarily because he is bad but because he is extremely boring and uninteractive. Chroma being a moving stat check is fine in terms of how powerful he is but in terms of where he belongs in the game he is in desperate need of a visual and gameplay rework
@milgos5269
@milgos5269 7 месяцев назад
You forgot that Inaros exists. Chroma has 2 abilities that do something, Inaros has 0.
@Mckhus
@Mckhus 7 месяцев назад
There are so many frames in similar or worse position with many indirect nerfs and meta changes. They really gotta address it in other way than just dropping one augment without kit tweaks like they are trying with Loki. Nyx, Loki or even excal just got shafted with indirect nerfs. Their whole kits other frames have in one ability. My fave equinox, from being one of strongest frames ingame now is borderline useless outide of eso. 3 is not an ability and just doesn’t exist, eximus units immune to cc make whole sleep play style impossible not to mention every pub having wisp waking everyone up with electric procs. Half of the kit doesn’t scale with anything, 4 can’t nuke without armor strip so you gotta build high strength with helmith to be able to use it. Augments left in gutter too. Recently grabbed chroma for archon and guy asked if I’m trolling with profit taker build.
@buttertoto378
@buttertoto378 7 месяцев назад
Given the new fist claw incarnon weapon coming with Dante it would be cool to give chroma the first incarnon exalted weapon. Probably like beast claws and with some combo counter they could grow into red hot dragon claws
@Darthmufin
@Darthmufin 7 месяцев назад
If you have the cold ward and you have melee influence on your melee weapon, when the arcane activates anyone that shoots you gets procced with cold from ward, but melee influence spreads it to all enemies around that target as if it was melee damage. It's an exploit for sure, but its pretty effective to make all enemies effectively be at max slow at all times.
@Matthew-ne8qd
@Matthew-ne8qd 7 месяцев назад
I feel like a support with my norish chroma build since he gives so many buffs. Max health, damage, viral damage, armor, energy and hp from molt reconstruct and a partly leveled combat discipline.
@MommaOcco
@MommaOcco 7 месяцев назад
I will say, he has his niches, and will have use, but that's all. If DE wants him to be more general use, they probably wanna do more.
@ThomasForlin
@ThomasForlin 7 месяцев назад
I love the video and I wanna say a MASSIVE THANK YOU for calling it a nerf at 8:37 instead of a fix! The justification they have for nerfing it is complete crap, especially since by definition of the words redirect ("direct (something) to a new or different place or purpose") and reflect ((of a surface or body) throw back (heat, light, or sound) without absorbing it.) It should have been an intended feature and left alone. I also want to point out an error in there description of the fix by DE: It says "Fixed Chroma's 'Cold' Elemental Ward applying large damage multiplier bonus to 'bullets' that hit..." The problem in that comment is "bullets". This is completely misleading, as it implies that any weapon letting out projectiles could make use of this. It only affected Hitscan and Beam weapons, not projectile, explosive or melee (reason I mention melee is Gunblades). DE clearly didn't test this properly before nerfing it, otherwise they would have known this, and how much investment it took to make this cheese-able, which is double what it takes now to cheese level cap. Oh, and another thing they ignored when this combo gets running... IT CONVERTED ALL DAMAGE DEALT TO COLD! That is literally in Cold Elemental Ward's description. So in other words, once everything was being redirected, no viral, heat, slash, impact, puncture. None of it. Just Cold damage and status effect. Only way you were getting a slash proc was Hunter Mu-Mu, which didn't even take the cold multiplier into account. Any other status effects would have to come from companions, teammates or abilities. Thanks for the awesome video and sorry for the long paragraph, but I just hate the amount of misleading crap surrounding the nerf, especially because the Xata's Whisper variation specifically has even more crap to get into for how it worked.
@4zureSapphire
@4zureSapphire 7 месяцев назад
At this point, Chroma needs an entire rework/identity. Nobody uses him anymore with his kit nerfed and outdated. He fell off since they removed self damage and makes his kit further useless. I think his kit mostly involves around retaliation right now, but the problem about that is late game where everything can one shot or deal big amounts of damage. Vex armor is the one thing that keeps his kit together but simultaneously holds it back on its condition of trying to build it through taking a lot of damage. Vex armor can buff up the damage of his abilities but at the insane cost of everything else suffering apart from strength and duration which hurts the range of scream. His augments aren't really good either. Afterburn has capped damage and requires the user to use his 1 for some time, leaving them incapable of dealing any other form of damage. Guided Effigy is affected by ability efficiency inversely, meaning the more efficiency you have the less energy you gain from effigy passing through enemies which conflicts with keeping effigy up in the first place.
@Moojoo77
@Moojoo77 7 месяцев назад
Ahh Chroma. The best solo frame as long as you don't have any anxiety about having a constant DOOM timer ticking in the right corner of your screen
@N0P0int
@N0P0int 7 месяцев назад
Was my favorite 😢and will still be my loved
@Destroyerofworldsss
@Destroyerofworldsss 7 месяцев назад
with chroma i think that the dmg he takes would add ablity strength to everything his 4 should be swaped for chroma to fly and breath a more powerful breath that bypasses armor
@mertkeskin1361
@mertkeskin1361 7 месяцев назад
I have been waiting for chroma rework since self damage was removed it is really sad to see that a frame with such a cool concept is poorly designed and power crept so much he is almost unplayable
@XplicitBF
@XplicitBF 7 месяцев назад
Finally farmed him out and bought the dragon skin for him so I could cosplay as Godzilla and honestly was a little disappointed with him. If I want a tank frame I’d rather just use Rev or my 10k health Inaros build lol.
@TheFlyingslug
@TheFlyingslug 7 месяцев назад
A few days ago I put together a pretty heavy-investment build and did a one-hour solo Void Cascade with chroma. It took a lot of effort to make the build work, balancing power strength and duration with defensive stats and sourcing healing and energy, but... Once I hit that sweet spot where the build worked, it worked completely totally fine. I get the feeling that people write Chroma off as a "bad warframe" because other frames already do what Chroma does, more easily and in some cases more effectively, but he's honestly really good at what he does if you put together the right build. Really hope he gets the love he deserves, though. Would love to see DE *actually* deliver on the fantasy of being a dragon.
@cimbro9457
@cimbro9457 7 месяцев назад
As a Chroma main: it is difficult to touch it... mostly DE can't really reduce the vex armor bonus, because people will get mad. having all 4 elemental ward color active at all time seems niche because these buffs are not really that useful to begin with, due to their % base. having 150% more armor for a mag player doesn't really mean much... having them fixed numbers like Oberon Armor, or wisp health boost will be better. chroma's effigy needs to have an "umbra" behaviour to justify it's cost, and have it's armor penalty being reduce but not removed. his spectral scream needs to be projectile and not a channeling ability
@cheetahofthewind13
@cheetahofthewind13 7 месяцев назад
Before I get too far in Im just going to copy paste a rework idea for chroma that I posted in brozime's last chroma build word for word. Just to see how similar your idea's to fix him would be to what I thought of, personally I think you might have better ideas overall but again I figured I do this just for the fun of lets see if we're on the same wavelength in someway (looking back at this it just makes me wish chroma got a rework, and here's my thoughts on how it maybe could be done and I highly doubt DE would ever see this and Pablo might come up with something better for chroma if he ever gets a rework, regardless here's what I thought of make his 1 fire out an elemental projectile that explodes when it hits a target or the walls and floor(it needs to have good range AOE and the ability to strip armor if it can't have a different form of dmg scaling) for his 2, its fine, just give it the ability to cycle through your elementals instead for his 3, just give us the buffs off rip if its just going to stay like how it is now or better yet imo revert it's nerf from way way way back ago where it functions like rhino roar and eclipse dmg buff, where it a final dmg buff again and finally his 4, rework it completely to where you fly around like a dragon raining fire and death onto your enemies, like effigy should just be Chorma himself doing that, not just slapping his skin on the ground for just 1 thing and that's it. personally it should be a buff that enhances the rest of your abilities and movement some, first make it so his 1's dmg and AOE is double and leaves an elemental trail as it travels, his 2 and 3 also get their ranges doubled, for movement it should be able to fly around like wukong's cloud walk but obviously not as fast(yes he'd basically be Titania 2 but I say the fly speed for chroma should stay around what his speed is at around say 1.5 sprint speeds and finally he keeps the credit multiplier, it is what his current 4 is known for and should retain it as such.)
@ShiroNature
@ShiroNature 7 месяцев назад
Where’s speed chroma
@NovaUmbral
@NovaUmbral 7 месяцев назад
gatekeeping
@Aftokraftor
@Aftokraftor 7 месяцев назад
I miss my chroma man I look at it every time I pass by in the arsenal and just feel disappointed when umbral forma first got added to the game he was the first frame I stuck one in and was also my first frame to be forma'd over 6 times which back then was a super huge investment I remember feeling so big brained doing stuff like throwing exploding kunai at my feet to charge my damage taken passives and hitting 70 seconds duration on 2 and 3 for the first time Its nice but sad to look back on memories like this because his theme is so cool but a lot like lavos another one of my favorite frames there is just no content id ever have a reason to use him for at least lavos gets to be my railjack pilot
@saramorin4792
@saramorin4792 7 месяцев назад
Chroma has always been and still is very good
@SpottedHares
@SpottedHares 7 месяцев назад
I'm gonna add that another issue with Chroma is Elements.I don't know about you but i don't use elements for their effects, unless that effect is direct damage boosting or triggering some ability that give more direct damage. Chroma is a walking stat stick because elements in Warframe are really just stat sticks them selves.
@jefthereaper
@jefthereaper 7 месяцев назад
"Chroma is outdated" Sad Loki noises.
@KaitoverMoon
@KaitoverMoon 7 месяцев назад
Profit Taker goes BRRRR
@derago-dev
@derago-dev 5 месяцев назад
I know his gimmick was suposed to be a "dragon" warframe or a dragon knight and yada yada yada, but i wish we can be the dragon instead of summoning one... Maybe they could rework his effigy so you can also hold the button to become the effigy, flying and getting more bonuses and things like that.
@bernee8162
@bernee8162 7 месяцев назад
I disagree, the issue isnt that his kit requires him to be damaged, jts a cool design idea and chroma is meant to be an elemental dragon that adapts. the issue is the kit itself not working that way and does not have any synergy whatsoever, youd think his 2 would have decent range and have damage over time that ramps up with his vex armor that he could switch between factions like toxin for corpus, suffocating them when they get close or burning infesteds. his 1 sucks and does nothing and tbh its an easy fix, just combine the 4 element augments that ember, volt, frost have and include a toxin one that has him deal the element type u want and have it deal more damage based on his vex armor. his 2 should be able to switch elements independently and thats basically all thats needed, his 4 can be whatever, maybe turn it into a strong companion that you can mod and and crowd controls with all elements.
@BeezlyJackal
@BeezlyJackal 7 месяцев назад
You can put nourish on chromas 1 or 4
@atlas1227
@atlas1227 7 месяцев назад
My opinion is DE hates chroma specifically. He’s from a quest that seems random and out of place and he gets nerfed out of all the frames that do what he does already and idk about y’all but I feel like I have to run arcane deflection whenever I play him
@rsg_magfire
@rsg_magfire 7 месяцев назад
About time to talk about our dragon boy in the year of the dragon
@ChaoticD3sTroYeR
@ChaoticD3sTroYeR 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, feelsbadman, he deserves so much more. Design wise he's a cool badass dragon with a sick new year skin, but he doesn't have enough going for him anymore for em to see high usage. I remember when Eidolons released, Playing a high STR chroma with glaive for self damage with the vectis built for crit was one shotting every limb. I have some clips saved of those fun days, it was truly efficient farming. But then the nerfs came down, I never touched chroma again, he dropped heavily on my roster for usage.
@eightbyte1
@eightbyte1 3 месяца назад
Chroma's breath, 400 damager per second Dante's slashing, 2500 damage plus slash procs per use.
@Vashramire
@Vashramire 7 месяцев назад
Chroma needs some love but I don't think it'll take much to get him on the right path. Loki though? My boy has been broken for over a decade and needs some love. More than Inaros or Hydroid ever did.
@anidiotandhisfriend4775
@anidiotandhisfriend4775 7 месяцев назад
Nah I jumped from maining base excal to Chroma prime and then dropped him. I dropped the whole game and came back years later just to make him my strongest and tankiest warframe. YEAR OF THE DRAGON 🐲🗣️🐲🐲🐲🐲🐲🐲
@user-vq1bo1we2q
@user-vq1bo1we2q 7 месяцев назад
If you don’t mind, what is your build?
@OliChanUwU
@OliChanUwU 7 месяцев назад
ooh, now this looks interesting.
@draco12999
@draco12999 7 месяцев назад
My main issue with chroma in current warframe is that most of the time there is another frame giving the whole squad oversheilds or overguard and most casees both making it literally impossible to get the fury buff without combat diciplin and i wish i didn't have to use it
@spaghettisama
@spaghettisama 7 месяцев назад
I remember back in ye olden days that chroma was meta... Good old times
@johithestar414
@johithestar414 7 месяцев назад
Video number 2 of asking NovaUmbral for a atlas video
@dragonwren1893
@dragonwren1893 7 месяцев назад
I still think they should just scrap everything with him and just redo it from the ground up and lean heavily into the elemental dragon fantasy, not big dumb tank with vex armor. That's just my opinion
@tannerkennedy4192
@tannerkennedy4192 7 месяцев назад
He’s supposed to be a dragon but he looks like spaghetti and can spawn a turret like wtf it makes no sense no other frame fails at their theme this hard. All he really does is give a additive serration damage buff and has a lot of armour.
@chomama1012
@chomama1012 7 месяцев назад
Pre shield-gating and Chroma nerfs, he was Mirage 2.0 imo. Which sucked because I was a Mirage main.
@slof69
@slof69 4 месяца назад
will always be my fav frame I'm just a basic gun enjoyer
@ReviewersGuildArSR
@ReviewersGuildArSR 7 месяцев назад
Really hoping Chroma gets a big rework this year.
@kingoffire105
@kingoffire105 7 месяцев назад
Our dragon boi needs to become dragon
@ReviewersGuildArSR
@ReviewersGuildArSR 7 месяцев назад
@@kingoffire105 yes! Cause right now he's just collecting space dust on my ship lol.
@kingoffire105
@kingoffire105 7 месяцев назад
Lol@@ReviewersGuildArSR Poor boi..
@ReviewersGuildArSR
@ReviewersGuildArSR 7 месяцев назад
@@kingoffire105 he excels in the circuit though. That's because of the decrees 🫤
@kingoffire105
@kingoffire105 7 месяцев назад
If modded correctly yes@@ReviewersGuildArSR
@serafinvalencia2618
@serafinvalencia2618 7 месяцев назад
I genuinely miss old chroma. Built right he was capable of having insane amounts of EHP but not it’s pretty pathetic.
@mr.v1442
@mr.v1442 7 месяцев назад
*cries in dragon*
@Monarth
@Monarth 7 месяцев назад
I'd honestly wish Chroma's kit would be a bit flashier and more focused on the elements he has. I love how he looks, but having just buffs is frankly boring. Some of my thoughts so far are: 1. Spectral Scream: Instead of being a channeled ability, I'd prefer it to be a Spyro-esque brief flash of breath that would potentially leave a momentary elemental hazard on the ground. Maybe holding the ability would do a 360 sweep with longer hazard duration but weaker damage. 2. Elemental Ward: While the different buffs are ok-ish, I'd want the elemental attacks to be more capable of offense by having some leeway for range mods, which currently only affect the range of the ally buffs. Maybe the Ward could be empowered while standing in Spectral Scream's hazards, with more damage and range. This would make them a bit more conditional in a good way. Maybe Electric Ward could perform an attack periodically instead of relying on receiving damage for instance while in this (hypothetical) empowered state, or zap enemies with electric statuses, which in turn would synergize with Spectral Scream's statuses. 3. I don't know what to do with Vex Armor. Maybe standing in Spectral Scream's hypothetical hazards could provide buffs instead of relying on damage to self? 4. Effigy: More damage and range please. It should also perform Spectral Scream and Elemental Ward, the former perhaps being an AoE pulse and the latter allowing more tactical coverage.
@ParagonGoetia
@ParagonGoetia 7 месяцев назад
Chroma deserves a full rework 100x more than Inaros
@Brenhydra
@Brenhydra 7 месяцев назад
My Umbral Chroma would like to have words with you. Jokes aside, Chroma desperately needs a rework to his 1 and 4. He should have something A-la Titania and Hildryn's Ultimates tbh
@dezr87
@dezr87 7 месяцев назад
All this Chroma slander about being 1 dimensional, but Atlas just gets a free pass for being terrible 😮‍💨
@atynniehawke9341
@atynniehawke9341 7 месяцев назад
My suggestion for him is to change completely the passive or at least add other stuff: like when he has the armor on he can 3ple jump, and off he gains 100% more drop of everything, like health, credits, energy and such A new meter is added where the higher the meter, the stronger his ability becomes (both offensively and defensively) you can increase the meter only by dealing damage with abilities (all of them), this meter slowly drains Buff the first ability (breath) to be a large "flame" in front of him that doesn't drain forever and doesn't last forever, like the more the Dragon meter is full greater the damage and distance/area covered is (same for effigy breaths) Vex armor and elemental ward should be combined as a 2nd (Elemental armor) and changed a bit, elemental damage is more prominent in aoe, and the buffs are not so dependent on the element you use, only the elemental output (you gain shield buff by default, if the shield is damaged the armor increases, if the health gets damaged the damage of all weapons increases) A new 3rd ability (Vex sword) where he gain a 2 handed dragon sword (like the weapon in his trailer) works offensively, high damage and defensively to helps teammates, this abilty (very slow and heavy slashes) creates bubbles where enemies are slowed down, allies and Chroma regen health, if health is full regenerates shield, if shields are full recharge energy Effigy should be a MUCH more important aspect of the kit, shouldn't drain energy continuously since it has X health, but should drain more energy upon activation. Should follow chroma around and stay in one place only if you want to,, and overall should be the main aspect of his kit where the other abilities work in sinergy, that's why when Effigy is out dragon meter stops draining and every full dragon meter grants effigy activation with no Energy cost.
@Ssecave
@Ssecave 7 месяцев назад
He's a boring frame since the beginning. Same for Inaros. Chroma's 1 is useless, his 2 and 3 should be fused and his 4 is lame when you have something like Sevagoth gameplay wise :p.
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