Imagine being so good at dribling that you without any vision just pure on dribling itself passing through Lorenzo (NG11 defender) who marked Kaiser and he couldn't do shit, Aiku (2nd best defender with meta vision), Nico (meta vision defender), Aryu (long-ass defender) and Snuffy making plays based on Bachira surrounded system of FC Barcha. And he still manage to score, I'm pretty sure it was a solo run as always. Chigiri is a great player, but he is not in the same tier as Bachira
Yep I don't even understand that video Bachira is above chigiri He is score against the strongest defense in the NEL while he is marking by Lorenzo Bachira is in the top 5 since the start of the NEL Chigiri even with a Nagi on fraudwatch mode can't be In the top 5
7:49 highly disagree. Bachira only scored once in the first selection and once in the second selection with Rin and once in the 3rd (Chigiri only gave an assist) The rest of the times he was giving assist. His performance never dropped he was consistent. In the NEL, he will gives Goal contribution. What You said about Bachira not doing much in the u20 can also be said about Chigiri, he created a goal opportunity for Karasu then nothing. He got benched right after. He had nothing to do with Rin's goal. Bachira can be a winger, an Offensive midfielder, a striker, or a central Midfielder. While Chigiri could be winger, a striker and a defender. Chigiri can't do everything and Bachira can't do everything either. But neither of them can do what the other can.
Chigiri wins on offense due to his speed and bachira’s dribbling being interchangeable but even if you think bachira had the better of the 2 weapons chigiri has better shooting, chigiri’s dribbling compared to bachira’s dribbling is a smaller gap then bachira’s speed compared to chigiri’s speed between Mach cut ins or as extendo stated feints, and on defense I really don’t think it’s a conversation due to the fact chigiri is one of manshine’s main defensive players had solid (not good but solid) defensive feats in the U20 match and even being able to keep up with and shut down Barou the #3 of blue lock, I know bias will make most people lean towards bachira but statistically chigiri SHOULD be the better player
There is no debate about that Bachira clears Offensively bachira is better The fact he scored against Lorenzo and the ubers defense knowing that bachira was the only real treath of his team Lorenzo was taking him on 1vs 1 but the fact that he still manage to score is above any offensive feat of chigiri -the style offensive of chigiri with his 44 zone is too predictable the BM vs MANshine has shown that Chigiri can supprise you one time but it is all The style of bachira is more unpredictable. Passing, vision, dribbling bachira also clear Chigiri has the edge on defense and speed it's all for him And for the shooting there are on the same tier The 44 shot of chigiri is amazing but to predictable Even though the bee shot of bachira isn't that impressive the fact that bachira has an unpredictable offensive style helps that shoot to be on the same tier as the 44°shot of chigiri And also bachira since the start of the NEL he is ez a top 4 player (only isagi rin barou are above him) he would have already got a bid of 100M if the author didn't decide to give a meaningless goal to otaya Chigiri is like a top 8 player Since ability wise speaking between bachira and him we can put Nagi hiori aiku
Nel goals is bachira 3 chigiri 2(unless you think he scored against ubers which i doubt cuz his bid only increased by 5 mil). Also the shooting point-ik this isn't a very good scaling method but chigiri entered the 100 goals challenge first and came out 44th,bachira came out 16th and he entered after
I mean if we using all canon goals chigiri got way way more like almost double bachira's amount i counted and bachira got 5 throughout the whole show while playing 3 more matches than chigiri while chigiri got 9 and 10 if u think he scored in the ubers match
@@billygrayson460The thing is tho is that buff already didn’t make sense due to the fact the play right before he shut down barou the 3rd highest rated player and blue lock and the man mark snuffy admitted had the best shot in the NEL now all barou glaze aside do you really think stopping barou from scoring a game winning goal only bumps him up 5 mil, and before the argument is “oh Sendou picked up the loose ball and scored” that’s not a fault of chigiri that’s a fault of the players surrounding him therefore it shouldn’t effect his salary
@@Comp1demon0 Kunigami stopped s Barou's shot and he only got 3 millions increase. And the guy pretty much useless the entire game. If Chigiri got 5 millions that means he did a little bit more. But he didn't score, and he didn't gave an assist.
Bachira gaps and it’s not even funny. Bachira has better dribbling, agility, passing but striking is the only point I’d give to chigiri. This guy’s just glazing chigiri’s techniques. Bachira has better U-20 AND neo egoist league feats. Considering they have both levelled up a ton from U-20, it’s time to go depth by depth. I would ultimately give shooting to chigiri(it’s kind of obvious) due to his 44 Golden zone technique that was displayed against Bastard munchen. It gives him pinpoint accuracy of where to shoot, how to shoot, and if it goes in. It’s basically chigiri’s own way of meta vision imo. Now, you say chigiri has good dribbling but in all reality, he doesn’t. Look at his overall dribbling stats compared to bachira. It’s not even close. Bachira has more fluidity and creativity in his dribbling, Chigiri’s is only a basic side step, feint etc etc. Dribbling definitely goes to bachira. Just look how he dribbled and blew past UBERS AND bastard munchen’s defence. Let’s be serious here, bachira gaps in dribbling. Speed goes to chigiri, no doubt about it. He’s literally built for speed, but that’s because of his weapon, but his overall speed is good too, bachira’s is definitely up there, but Chigiri just is better for multiple reasons. Better Speed feats, better showcase of agility and speed. It also helps that Chigiri can choose the direction of his speed instead of just going straight forward. It helps with dribbling as well. Physical prowess? I’d give it to Chigiri. He doesn’t look like it, but he has good physicality. His master is Literally a god at physicality. (Even tho kaiser was seen holding his own against him) Chigiri’s training was just as intents as everyone’s in manshine city, it’s just the fact he trained his legs a little bit better than most areas of his body. But physical feats are impressive. Movement and agility goes to bachira(same reason for dribbling) Reaction time and senses? I’d give to bachira. It may not look like it, but he does have good senses and reaction time, he’s seen being aware of his surroundings(goes into play with field iq) and is seen using his senses to the greatest amount. Everytime he gets the ball, he’s aware of his surroundings and what he needs to do. It’s shown In multiple chapters where multiple people try to block his movement with the ball. All bachira needs to do is look around for an open space and take that opportunity. Weapon goes to bachira. Speed is a good weapon to have but if you don’t know how to dribble and actually use it, it’s useless. Chigiri knows how to use his weapon but if you put it with any other character, they’d probably be lost figuring out how to use it to its greatest ability. Bachira usage of dribbling is far greater and surpasses chigiri’s. Do I need to put a reason why? Defending to Chigiri. We haven’t seen much of bachira defending, it’s more like he destroys the defending instead of doing so. Marking to bachira, he can be around at every hour, and every minute. Goals to Chigiri. Need I say more? Abilities to bachira. Again, need I say more?(and talent to him too) Bachira has overall more feats and advantages over Chigiri in the NEOL(neo egoist league) that it’s not even funny. Go ahead and debate me if you want
-Bachira has more goals and assists in series -Better passing feats and can solo dribble entire teams -Has the WORST team in the NEL and only has Ghostman Otoya to help him unlike Chigiri, Reo, and Nagi (Literally the only team without a "NGL 11" or well renowned player). - Bro said "what did Bachira do the entire U-20 game besides that run" he stole the ball from Barou and Isagi who were about to get the ball stolen and performed one of the single greatest solo run feats I've ever seen in BL, had multiple linkups with Isagi, and only got stopped by plot man Sendou who shouldn't even have been that far back anyways. Now what did Chigiri do? Bring the ball up a little, get cooked by Shidou, and.... get hurt, cry, and get told by Ego to get off the pitch cause he was being a waste of space😆. You wouldn't even remember Chigiri was in the match if it wasn't for his whole "I tored my ACL before boohoo woe is me" side story. - "Chigiri you get a much better overall package" no you don't he's a pace merchant. Bro got cooked by Isagi's dribbles and his only blocks are unexpected slide tackles. Bachira has performed way better passing feats then Chigiri from crosses, daisy cutters, long range passes etc. I mean hell even episode 1 Bachira does a handstand pass right to Isagi's foot to knock out Kira. Chigiri from what we've seen has only done crosses. Chigiri better on offense is laughable he has less goals, less assists, even with the assistance of Reo and Nagi and was immediately locked up and went ghost the entire match when his panther shot was figured out. It didn't even take much either it just took Isagi standing in the zone and Chigiri got rattled and tried to force the goal. I'd much rather have Bachira at the front dribble through a majority of the team and dump it off to someone like Barou or Isagi when a team funnels more people to stop him than whatever Chigiri does. Yes Bachira doesn't have ANY defense feats but to trade someone like Bachira for Chigiri who gets stopped by anyone with room temp ball knowledge is blasphemous. I've also NEVER seen anyone give a feat to Chigiri for RIN creating his goal scoring oppurtunity FROM SCRATCH LIKE YOU SAID. If anything it was Karasu's shot being blocked by Sae that allowed the Rin to get the ball. Yes Chigiri dumped it but you're telling me no one else in the U-20 could cross? Hell even Otoya could've crossed instead of shooting it and bro still would've said "ye but Chigiri got the ball down field" YEAH ON THE OPEN SIDELINE AGAINST Aiku who didn't have any clue that he was fast. Besides that he didn't do anything like how are these 2 even comparable. Solo run vs pace abusing 1 defender who's unaware you're fast and passing it to Karasu which btw DIDN'T EVEN GET THE BALL SAE STOPPED THE CROSS. I mean even Isagi highlighted it clear as day Otoya, Nagi, or Yukimiya could've scored in the first instance and in the 2nd one Rin created his own. TLDR version: Bachira is way better on offense, dismantles teams, and can set up plays better with more assists, goals, higher stamina, with no notable players on his team while Chigiri is a pace merchant who can barely play defense who got glazed to high heaven off of U-20 feats that aren't even his own and 1 on screen goal + a slide tackle deflect on a Barou who's not paying attention(due to predator eyes and how it functions). Yes I'm scaling this like it's a shonen because it is
Even crazier when you realize Chigiri has the world’s #2 who taught him that Panther snipe + handed a workout to him on a silver platter and Bachira has the most useless egotistical nothing burger of a master😭. Bros literally self taught and he’s the main dude on Barcha and a starter since match 1.
Even if u wanna scale like its shonen bachira only got 3 canon onscreen goals and 5 total while chigiri got 8 canon onscreen goals and 2 ofscreen ones for 10 total legit double the amount of goals bachira. And whats this abt him being a speed merchant? I though we disproved that wack take back in the manshine v bastard match when he legit just out dribbled isagi with no space for him to pick up speed then he snapped kuni's ankles with dribbles then hit a crazy curve shot legit had better curviture than most of rins goals so nah gang chigiri can do way more than batchira overall and i ain't arguing over the defense stuff cuz they both kinda mid when it comes to defense
@@rodrigueajavon What 8 onscreen goals does Chigiri have. If you’re referring to episode Nagi it’s cause he lost so he had to go back DOWN and get more goals in 2nd selection which is an anti-feat. He “outdribbled Isagi” the first time with a MACH SPEED CUT IN by stopping then using Isagis lack of speed to outrun him and cut in. Keep in mind it never worked again on Yukimiya or Kaiser because they are fast and can keep up. That’s the definition of pace abusing. Having one curve shot goal does not disprove being a speed merchant he just has 1 extra weapon on top of being a pace abuser(which again was immediately shut down by people who are also canonically fast). Saying he has Panther snipe and speed does NOT put him on Bachira’s level in any capacity and I would rather have someone who can dismantle whole teams with a repertoire of passing and scoring options with individual skill alone than a speed merchant who tries to force shots with one good shooting area that instantly gets shut down by people who can slightly keep up with him or people with decent enough football IQ to realize he’s shooting from THE EXACT SAME SPOT EVERYTIME🤷🏾♂️.
@@rodrigueajavon because 1.) He has an egotistical master that would rather score than pass to anyone unlike the others in the series that try to feed the Blue Lockers 2.) 2 of his goals were blocked by Sendou(Plot man) and Isagi (again bro should not have been able to reach Bachira in time) and even then he has 5 goals due to a lackluster team because AGAIN he has 0 support unlike Chigiri who has a literal Sae x Rin clone, world renowned soccer player(Agi), and Nagi also supporting him. Bachira has nobody. Could you imagine how many goals Isagi would score if Noel Noa tried to score and steal passes from him every game with the same team as the first match and NO form of training whatsoever? I’ll tell you rn, 0. Chigiri’s got inflated stats from losing in 2nd Selection and Bachira’s STILL right there with him in goals with more skills, better passing feats, better dribbling feats, etc. so what does that tell you?
Wtf is this LOL. How are these two close???? Like good vid, but cmon. ”Edit before hate” xTendo is smart guy, but I’m just commenting this as like, Bachira vs Chigiri is like putting Barou vs Zantetsu both are good and both were on the same team…But there are clear levels to this shit. Example Igaguri Rin Isagi/Barou Chigiri Bachira Unless someone outright cracks Chigiris leg he ain’t losing to a striker v striker battle unless it’s the top 5BL.
@@markogamingtv7030 Top 5 players I agree but Bachira is just 7 or 8. He ain’t making marks even with a team revolving around him. Chigiri maybe, 2 goats of the nel (Isagi/Kaiser) think wow he is good, and Kaiser low balled all the Bluelockers except Rin/Chigiri/Isagi. Tbf not even Shidou was acknowledged except by tbf Sae and Charles, so I also will. But Chigiri never had a team for support to help any plays, manshine revolves around Nagi, yet Chigiri’s performance is consistent and even 2 top strikers had to go out of there way to glaze and tell him,"That’s a world class weapon" and "You’re good 44" Not even Nagi got that?? Sorry for the paragraph. "Edit" considering the narrative, manshine will beat Barcha, Bachira isn’t gonna be able to sustain a "top 5/top 6" for you afterwards will he? Just curious cause Bachira even with a team supporting him has no clear advantage over the other 6.
@muhammadnajmi77 it's more than just passing. it's the fact he said duo, not passer bachira can dribble score has insane vision an ability of his own better stats speed strength can play more positions etc bachira >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hiori So obviously, it's gonna be Isagi bachira >>>>>>>>>>> Isagi hiori
Top 5 Blue lock- Rin>Isagi>Shidou>Barou>Bachira>, will also be the final 5 rankings-Bachira n hiori are debatable as well but i would say bachira> since hes a good passer as well -Side note, Aiku,Karasaru,Hiori n likely even reo without nagi> chigiri(pretty good winger tho)
Better striker chigiri but better player without a doubt bachira. You can even tell by their ranks, chigiri has never been over bachira, except in the 1st selection where bachira was focusing on passing to isagi. But in 2nd selection he finished 16 while chigiri 44th,then he ranked as 7th best player and has like 1.5x higher bid in nel
Bachira scores just as much as chigiri and has even more stamina why do you think chigiri is a better at shooting? In the nel he's scored against every team with worse help.
I'd argue against the bachira stamina bit, only cause chigiri in manshine must have developed his stamina under Chris prince. I would say they are equal at bare minimum
in pure shooting chigiri clears bachira even tho he has less goals. Because bachira dribbles through whole team to score most of the time to get in a 1v1 sitiuation with the gk. Meanwhile chigiri has a more accurate and powerfull shot that could curve around multiple players if hes in his golden zone its almost a 100% garanteed goal thats kinda the thing for the golden zone. The stuff like passing verstility etc. are debatable but shooting chigiri takes it
Narratively Bachira > Chigiri. Since the Egoist 4 chapter it has been hinted that the Kuni and Chigiri rivalry is forced. You can see Chigiris reaction when they equaled in bids. I am confident Bachira will score vs Manshine, I cant say the same for Chigiri vs Barcha. Also he didnt score vs Ubers.
What im shocked is that this is close. bachira is going 3v11 every game, while chigiri has got a full team alongside him And as much as i love chigri, you can't just make up stats. bachira has more goals and assits in nel The final part is we know about bachira crazy vision passing, etc. In the whole series, chigiri has had what 1 chem reaction Your comparing the 5th arguable 4th best nel blue locker with about 8th 7th at a push cause akiu/ hiori>chigiri
This vid is full of bias around the 10min mark “if Chigiri can do that with a team that’s significantly weaker” Barou isagi and Nagi themselves literally admit that they’re enemies are strong and Barou couldn’t have awakened otherwise… Bachira didn’t do anything in the 4v4 finale? He literally got a goal and created a chemical reaction with Aryu for him to score besides dribbling past the entire team and would’ve scored again if not for isagi and plot… Chigiri and Bachira had the same impact against the U-20 Chigiri biggest panels was literally him just failing on defense… at least Bachira didn’t get subbed out Bachira clears this he had more impact on offense and the midfield through his dribbling and playmaking and even with Chigiri speed his defense is mediocre getting juked the most in blue lock
And plus I highly disagree about this debate one Bachira is caring barch Fc barcha more like Fc Bachira and plus chigri has nagi and REO but still those minor details don't matter if your talking about performaces Bachira is better chigir is like a person you can assist and pass to more like a goal option But Bachira he can break down the entire defense if needed you can see which is more effective
@@Goppling chigiri does not get a lot of help from reo or nagi or anyone else and chgiri is also the type of player to dribble through a team into his golden zone to score and youre acting like reo and nagi are performing well rn but the only one actually scoring and doing smth in mc is chigiri. Is there a way bachrira is better than chigiri? Yes. Are the points you used valid arguments to proof your statment? No. Are the arguments from the vid valid points? No. Both of you said a whole lot of nothing.
