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oh hey JmCrofts, didn't you played edh. keep up with the good content!

Me too thanks

Same. I'd love just selected graphs.

That's interesting I took estrid apart (she was my first deck) but I used tuvasa instead just because the card advantage was too useful (it was also when I started to understand how important card advantage really is)

Its actually a remix of one of the songs from Magic the Gathering:Shandalar, an old PC Magic RPG

@@aidanquiett668 ..It isn't tho. The source is right there in the description.

It's a Kevin Macleod song, probably the most prolific public domain composer around

Yeah, it is starting to get ridiculous, with it shifting into October.

@@GeorgBauer waitwaitwait.... last i heard was end of august o.O

Bill Cypher Someone quoted his vendor citing October for the date. Cardmarket has it still set as end of August, but says they actually don‘t have any reliable date on the jumpstart products.

It's going to be finished on arena before we get anything....

God what a clusterfuck this product is. I really hope commander legends has a flawless start

*Whispers* Join the jank deck builders...

That’s awesome!

I'm Joey now!

I am the exact opposite. I wonder which is better/worse lmao

@@marqusemanuel6719 It's definitely worse in my experience haha. You spend a lot of money to make a great deck and then don't even enjoy it cause you're looking for variance.

@@damagedjoker69 Joey is definitely spikier than he will admit, yes.

That was Matt who said that though right?

Unesh was my first deck and is still my favorite. At first it was very casual, but so was my playgroup so it won a lot. Then people targeted me early on and I changed it for it to win faster than they could kill me and it turned into a combo deck. However I like the thought of my deck being the most powerful it can be and like you say, it being less popular means its more unique which feels really good

Lol same I played unesh as just bad Sphinx tribal before taking it apart since I got bored

He's a unique commander and gives card draw and ramp, the only bad thing is he only has so many sphinxes to play with, a lot of them being not that great/too vanilla. I have an Unesh deck, I like it, but I'm probably not going to put any more money into it.

Kresh was my first commander deck way back then when I mostly played legacy.

Kresh was an easy budget build, and no one cares too much about the legends in Alara. Most were $1-2. I had Sharuum back then. Also a Sedris combo deck of fun

Kelly Tracy yeah I built it and then it inspired me to rebuild Edgar markov instead.

Gwyn is fun af as a knight's commander

You forgot the most important part; the endless supply of dad jokes.

I still do, though enchanting in UW is more difficult than it was as we don't usually get new additions anymore :(. I'm having a lot of fun with Feather nowadays

Someone in my playgroup who's favorite tribe is angels would love your playgroup ( :

Xyxris is one of the two commanders I hate and will only target unless they are Janky.

@Jack Absolutely. Just where Xyris is the current threat; Nekusar has a legacy that precedes him. I'd actually argue green ramp makes Xyris actually stronger then Nekusar, but for the time being he still has the "new commander" veil that covers him a bit.

Xryis has a lot more creative space than Nekusar. Xyris doesn't require a full wheel deck to be playable, and it could also let only your ally but no one else draw cards, a useful bargaining chip. Snake tokens also have more applications than Nekusar's pure damage (which is one-way to boring hell).

tutor basalt monolith , genesis wave for infinite gg

Dana and cure for the common game are mine they both build in a weird Janky synergistic way like me and it's lovely to see.

@@kingfuzzy2 one thing that I find enjoyable is working with cards that can only get so strong rather than cards that can only get so weak

@@rachelmcrachel6589 right on ( :

As far as WUBRG Commanders, I prefer Sisay, Weatherlight Captain. feels very fun, there's different ways to build her (as a Voltron commander, as a combo tutor, or as value engine).

@@a.velderrain8849 haven't built her yet but she does seem like fun. I was actually considering making an all legendary humans tribal version of her lol. I also have ramos cascade. that one is pretty fun. although it is mostly temur.

@@zealous944 Yeah, I'm building Ramos Charm Tribal and also have a Sliver Hivelord deck as far as WUBRG decks go. I have 2 Sisay decks, one is more competitive with infinite combos and such, the other is a Weatherlight themed deck with all the crew members and cards featuring the Weatherlight like Vindicate and Evasive Action.

My Vilis deck has lich effects for that reason because I'm not ever going to be responsible with my life total and neither are my opponents tho to a lesser extent.

Also, merfolk from Ixalan don't care about being tapped, unlike the merfolk from Lorwin, but you can't use white. Kumena really wants to be paired with Sygg

A bant tap/untap merfolk tribal commander would be really fun now that you mention it

@@elijahdavila3684 yeah, I run Tuvasa for the colors and it's fun, kinda sad that the only thing of importance in my commander is the type line, but it works

@@nik700 thought about trying chulane instead?

@@Shea-Key Not a big fan of Chulane, but he's a good choice now that you mention it

I do like that it's group hug not 281 9/9 snakes turn 3 ( :

And Mairsil actually does get a few new toys a year. Like Pendant of Prosperity, or Thassa.

I believe Mairsil is getting maybe a new toy from Commander legends with Sakashima of a Thousand Faces

@@williamschaefer1822 Spark Double also filled that void!

@@VexylObby I missed that spark Double doesn't copy "legendary". I can't think of a reason why Sakasima's 'Legend rule not applying to my permanents' might help in Marisil. Guess I'm trying to figure if I should run 1, either or both in My Mairisil, the pretdender edh

I am also playing a Xyris deck and I really enjoy it, I built it to be a bit more political and I find it to be a lot of fun. The wheels aspect is great, but the political/group hug aspect is really fascinating and enjoyable to me

It's easy for people to build new commanders base on existing strategies, which limit themselves from thinking bigger. My Xyris doesn't go wheel theme either, instead replace them with cards synergizes with tokens and snakes.

Absoposilutly : D she is so different from most of the gruul kill spell only decks.

I made one as a Megamind theme deck, but it takes a big blue brain to track of all his abilities, especially with a couple -lings!

I disagree rosheen Meanderer and her at far more unique than the other gruul commanders that are kills spells . Deck or non creature spells that kill you turn 2 or so.

They’re relatively unique as commanders, but the effect is something you can get easily enough in your 99 that they’re a bit...redundant.

I run Fortitude in my Korvold deck - it's a great card that I totally can vouch for. When I built my deck, I did a search for all the auras with the Rancor return ability and stumbled across that one. Had never seen it played in 16 years of Magic, but it was recurring sac fodder with its own sac outlet and a way to protect my Commander. I've loved it in every game I've drawn it, and it's driven my friends crazy as they all scramble to kill Korvold but can't because of the regenerate.

Could be because Korvold is Jund so you have fewer forests to work with. That said it sounds like a neat card, I might have to grab one and play it in my Korvold deck and give it a go.

Also I play Windgrace, I had evolution sage in my list for awhile but there is little to no other counters synergies in the deck. It always felt win more and didn't contribute enough on it's own.

Personally the exile is more valuable to me than the scaling, and that also made for a good apples-to-apples comparison with Return to Dust since it also exiles, but I'm not gonna tell anyone they're wrong for running Heliod's Intervention as it's very good.

@@danaroach29 I can definitely see where the advantage is to exiling, especially against graveyard synergies.

So I just got to utilize Evolution Sage in my Windgrace deck and it helped pull a clutch. I am so happy and appreciative of y'alls recommendation. While it really was everything coming together that enabled the win, the fact that it wouldn't have been possible without the new addition, Evolution Sage, is why I am giving it the credit. I had Evolution Sage, Prismatic Omen, Elvish Reclaimer, and Squandered Resources already on the battlefield. I had somehow missed some land drops (42 lands btw) and had just tapped my 4 only lands and sac'd one to Squandered Resources to cast Windgrace. My opponent had me on the ropes -Hexproof everything Arcades wall deck with two turns for her to win. Thanks, Shalia, Voice of Plenty. I neg'd Windgrace to get the two fetchlands I had in my graveyard, turned them into other lands that I then proceeded to tap into Elvish Reclaimer, sac'ing one to get Valakut. I now had 5 "mountains," including Valakut, thanks to Prismatic Omen. Hexproof everything Arcades player swings in for 16 unblockable (thanks Tetsuko Umezawa), leaving me with 6 health left. I'll clearly be dead if she gets another turn. My drawn card and land for turn ended up being Vesuva, which I had come in as a copy of Valakut. 6 Damage to the opponent. Because of Evolution Sage, my land for turn, the first Valakut, and the 4 lands (2 fetches into regular) had bumped Windgrace back up to 8 loyalty, allowing me to neg him again. The same 2 fetches to 2 other lands. 24 damage to my opponent for just a little over lethal. Thank you so much again for the recommendation. It literally led to me winning the game.

I built Maralen 85-Swamps Adnauseum-combo years ago. Played her exactly once, combined off, and realized that she would always play the same or worse. Stripped it apart after game one. Did that with Crouching Tazri, Hidden Zada, too.

Just removing her from combat after she attacks seems to help or reccuring value.

@@marvin5342 Getting only the activated ability is what makes it awesome. Cards like Ovinomancer and Shauku have big drawbacks, but Mairsil only gets the good part. And Mairsil is legendary, but the Spark Double clone isn't, so you start replicating that one and get an army of nonlegendary Mairsils, all with the same abilities, and you even add to their abilities as each one ETBs.

Tokens go to grave if they die / destroy.

I've seen enough kenrith group hug decks to confuse me when the rest of the table hates kenrith to death.