The Concerning State of Cities Skylines 2 in 2024 

Gamers are whipped , this game needed another 2 years to cook.

CO doesn't have the leadership required to get out of this situation. Their fragmented focus with their "small team" is illustrative of poor decision making at the top of the company. Focusing on console at all, while the already released version of the game is abysmally failing, is obtuse. The length between patches, and patches being tied to DLC is further indication that Paradox's meddling in the issue is detrimental to the games reputation.

Publishers need to spend less on advertising, more on development and testing. So glad I don't pre-order games, because I was really looking forward to this sequel, and will still purchase it when it's out of paid beta testing.

Paradox really should just start releasing their games in EA, that little early access banner would solve so many of their PR problems.

Remember folks, these days companies truly believe YOU are toxic for complaining. You should just pay up and shut up and enjoy whatever garbage you're served up. Don't want to be called toxic. Heaven forbid some greedy ass pompous manager actually take responsibility. It's YOUR fault for complaining. Not theirs for releasing a garbage product

_I'm still annoyed with myself that i missed the refund deadline._ 😮‍💨

There's a reason why I keep playing CS1 over CS2, sure CS1 is much older, but it actually works. CS2 I had a city reach 90,000 citizens and my framerate tanked hard but in CS1 with the help of a mod I have a city with 250,000 citizens and my framerate is buttery smooth.

I recently built a new, powerful PC that can play all the latest games. Cities: Skylines 1 is finally running well, and I will be able to mod it to death, which I couldn't do on the old computer. Cities: Skylines 2 might never find its way into my collection. I was interested in it as it was coming out, but then, I remembered how I got suckered into the DLC spam parade with Cities: Skylines 1, and the idea of having to re-buy a lot of DLC just to get comparable functionality turned me off. And this was before the disastrous launch. Even if Cities: Skylines 2 gets fixed up and start to function adequately, I think I might finally be done with Paradox. If I finally decide to go for it after a few years, there will probably be a list of DLC as long as my arm that I'll have to wade through to figure out which ones are valuable and which ones are horse armor. Screw that. I'll play Timberborn instead.

I went back to CS1 after getting my refund and never looked back.

No Mans City Skylines ✌️ Compliments to the art director though. The game is beautiful. Even at 4 FPS 😂

I feel there are so many issues and they don't really know what to do to fix them, nor in what order. They are fighting a war in which they are being ambushed from many sides and are in chaos. IMO of their own making. They made a stand and divided the community of against and for. I believe many of those "for" players are now seeing the writing on the wall and the negative response is building. Creators continue to trend away from CS2 and the more they do the less support CS2 has. It is an absolute MESS!! You can read between the lines of their responses and WOTW. I totally believe they are walking that tight rope. They will fall to one side or the other. One side is the long road to fixing the game and the other is succumbing to the pressure to refund peoples money. The atmosphere just seems like SimCity!! So many major creators on RU-vid are having to take different routes to keep their channels alive. Many of which I wouldn't even be watching if it were not for CS1. Which is why this is all painful. We all grew together and were bonded by something special. They have done messed that up and have broken the trust in actions and words. IMO every day that passes without true fixes and repentance will make it harder and harder to make a comeback. They splashed on the screen as the underdog and forgot from where they came and who put them there. All for the sake of money. Shame shame!! Love your channel, perspective and honesty!

We expected Paradox+Colossal Order to bring a SimCity 5, instead they went fully EA and brought a SimCity (2013).

The first thing i did when i opened cities skylines 2 was to notice that the camera controls were wrong. that is to say, I had changed my key bindings for cities 1 many many years ago, and couldn't even change those keys for cities 2. then i saw that janky tarrain glitchiness where the seams between roads and terrain break, and you can see though the game map into the abyss. I didnt understand what could possibly be better than cities 1 in the second one, and quickly thought "I can just play cities 1, i have 5-6 dlcs there and can build a bike only city if i want"

I haven't played it for months, I'm back on CS1 and really enjoying it, love my mods and assets.

What’s not mentioned here is the choice by paradox to force a release before it’s done, knowing it’ll be bought, because of the massive failure and loss due to the release of lamplighter or whatever the hell that game is called. Paradox intentionally forced an early release to pad their numbers prior to an earnings call.

(This isn't you) but I love how all the influencers that were lauding the game on launch are all on the train of calling out colossal order now. People who got all puckered up with pre-release content like Biffa plays indie games (who took months! to call out the game)

In there defense on the DLC delay, if they released DLCs before fixing bugs and making the game playable people would call the scummy and say they just want the money and don't care about playerbase

I swear publishers figured out that if they release a broken game not only do they get the initial wave of buyers but get to do the equivalent of a grand reopening when it is finally fixed for another wave of buyers leading to more overall sales. Also people complaining about the game is a more effective ad campaign than people saying its great.

I'm going to keep it short and simple people want to play the game that they paid for but basically you need a $5,000 gaming PC in order to get anything decent out of this game. That's totally unfair to the average PC Gamer who has medium to low end systems according to steam. Basically you need an i7 to get decent performance an I-9 is what you really need. It seems like they made this game to cater to be I-9 processor. Which once again the average PC Gamer doesn't have

As someone who is super outside-looking-in on the Cities community, this whole thing seems a lot like another Payday 3 to me (pretty ironic, given that the two releases were only a month apart.) An alright to good game at the core, which as a sequel, took far too long to come out for what it provided and pales in comparison to its predecessor in some ways that are understandable and others that are much less so. Poor communication from the developers (though, I'd argue it was even worse in CS2's case, with that abysmal "Stop bullying us or we'll lock down even more" response to criticism; Say what you want, at least Starbreeze's team seem genuinely apologetic and haven't lashed out at the fans); The pretty likely possibility of extreme publisher meddling; An exodus back to the predecessor and at a state mere months after release where only the most diehard fans are giving it the time of day. I think both this game and PD3 are more than capable of staging their comebacks, but it's sure as hell not going to be easy for either, especially in regaining community trust.

They're trying to turn Cities 2 into Sim City 2013.

This is probably a type of game where the devs (especially engineers) should be the ones telling what goes in to the game including monetization. If you are working at a small studio and you can't impact the end product then you know there is a problem.

Been watching these videos since you started these videos on CS:2, I realized today I hadn't subscribed yet - thank you for your honest and sober commentary on the game. Very few other RU-vidrs have been giving honest perspectives into the game until recently, and everyone wants to climb on board with them now. You deserve way more recognition for the constistency of your reporting, in depth analysis, as well as holistic and honest reporting on the game so far.

Contra of CS2: - It came naked, compared to CS1 - It is buggish - Bad Perfomance - No Mod Support - Maps are small - Bad Simulation Pro: + Some small functions, which you can also have in CS1 with Mods

Love CS2. Played it until I'd 'finished' my first city. As far as I could (250,000 pop). As far as I'm concerned I've finished the game. I've stopped playing it. I'll come back and start a new city once they add the ability to save and load assets. (Particularly intersections). Modding would be nice but is pointless to me without assets. I envision that to be 2025. Until then I'll play other stuff and not worry about it.

What exactly was so hard about saying "we're releasing in EARLY ACCESS, there WILL BE BUGS, pls help us find them"? Last Epoch had several years of early access. PalWorld just released in early access. What's wrong with this route?

I checked out after I ran into some issues, one notably being the number of education buildings you need as your population grows. If you stay a small town, not an issue, add dense residential and you neeed like 5 schools per block and it’s specifically elementary schools that are bugged where students stay there longer than they should creating a backlog..

as someone who wanted to buy the game during release month, I think it would be interesting to see content creators provide a rolling update "it is at all worth buying in the current condition" percent rating. Maybe something like "if this game were 5% of launch price, it miiight be worth buying *in the current state*" I am in fact interested in trying it, but it's hard for me to judge. "It's still bad" isn't very granular.

I really really really wish people “cough” “cough” would stop pushing mod support. “IF” we ever were to get that feature added to the game the they would never push base game fixes and rely on the general public to do their jobs for them. It almost feels like a semi failed kickstarter game development. I don’t know… either way. I still think it’s best if everyone pushes for the base vanilla game to work as intended. Some might not be able to buy DLC’s or expansion packs. So a fully functional base game is a must. Then add the wish list items to the game.

Eh I have just gone back to CS1 and starting two series there based on the Vanilla Coast, and Vahala Maps from the Steam Workshop ( 😮 THE WORKSHOP) for the duration. CS1 might be 9 years old and Im running 51 mods and 5,000 or so assets but the game with its stutters and lack of Mixed Use still brings a smile to the face 🙂

Cities Skylines 1 had a miraculous lifespan, owing almost solely to the amazing workshop, and the CS RU-vidr sphere that kept the game alive and thriving with their examples of the incredible cities you could build, thanks to the continued engagement on the workshop nearly a decade on. Paradox's decision to launch CS2 without the workshop is a shockingly boneheaded one. And the lack of enthusiasm for CS2 is pretty apparent here on RU-vid. A few years ago, the number of amazing and unique CS series you could find was surprising. Now, there are just a few, and they're all essentially the same. Everyone is working from the same vanilla game, and it shows. I don't think CS2 will have near the lifespan that CS1 had.

I was willing to be patient and understanding, but after all the PR blunders etc. I am honestly done with it. I wish I didnt have more hours than the minimum to refund it at this point. Definetly the last time any time soon I preorder anything published by PDX, which is a shame.

CO are a disaster and the CEO should walk. Taking mods away from the steam workshop is a joke and then not having modding support from day one, when the modders fixed Cities one. The fact they didnt know or care that the modders were so important to their success. The main problem that wont get fixed is the simulation is pointless, it doesnt do anything. Ultimately they have made a load of money from pre-sales and only care about selling the DLC in the future. Its sad how badly they have treated the community.

Cities Skylines 1 wasn't really sunshine and rainbows either. But the thing was Steam Workshop helped the game developed overtime at a faster rate than the devs did. Now that city skylines 2 doesn't support Steam Workshop, they screwed themselves over not only releasing a game too early, the game not able to be saved my modders just like the first game.

Thanks for this video. I just heard about the game and was excited for it (remembering how great Cities 1 was). I didn't imagine Cities 2 was experiencing so many issues. I'll wait until they sort them out.

Hi JumboPixel, not sure if you know but Dune: Spice Wars got a huge update which includes new hero system, full unit rebalancing, combat rework, new faction and many other changes. I would appreciate a Let's Play going over it as I'm sure many others would. I've always really enjoyed your D:SW Let's Plays 😊

I was fully expecting myself to be spending an inordinate amount of time with cs2, but I waited on release “just in case”. Good thing I waited. I’m still waiting.

The fact that performance struggles with low 11-20 fps on mid settings on a 3 year old top end , that graphics power outperform any console, citys 2 just won’t run 4k 60 at all unless they re-write all the graphics, but more importantly citys. Arrived significantly cut back , many felt deliberately short changed, significant elements that made city 1 continue in popularity from dlc 4 on should have been included in the game , the lack of steam workshop as well to a garden walled that still hasn’t appeared isn’t just regrettable, it has drawn a definite line against developers that kept the game alive, the building type plot size forces a micromanagement to far , citys 1 was called a painter but it worked, and why the grid is off still unless you go into developer, put it on in the options and set to disable if users select it , but the choice to remove night life, and monorail or offer transrapid as an alternative, the forced train cap in depot is a step to far you end up just spamming the map and air ports are way underused and why no built in train or metro , I like the built in separate cargo but it should also have the built in road for it as well makes placement even harder , the game has gone to pro builder that casual gamer market that was a big mistake. There isn’t even local factory or import especially with electric with roads unable to carry the power without micromanaging, farming that no matter how big you build doesn’t seem to fill the harvest requirement yet build one. Quarry and your good to go up to a million then the fame becomes unplayable even little things like petrol stations haven’t been programmed into the game demand , one petrol station for the city the queue should go off the map but it hardly gets visitors, there no pubs or outdoor restraints that have people enjou the say at peak times like and demand meter would have , and no one playing in sports events again bad move it breaks the simulation feeling and inability to fix ridiculous land vales still in beta . Citys 2 needs better communication and reason for me to come back because right now citys is superior

I love CS1 (have over 950 hours in game) but why on earth are people still pre-ordering or buying on day 1? The entire gaming industry has created this problem, people keep complaining about it, yet people keep buying on day 1. I understand it’s your money and you can do whatever you want with it - but I can’t feel sorry for folks when the AAA gaming market has been this way for years. 8 or 9 times out of 10, you are going to get a game with major problems - just accept that fact and wait for all the bug fixes or consider waiting a few months after release. Just my 2 cents……

You know this is such a minor thing to comment on but seeing planes flying around with their landing gear down all the time-- irrelevant to anything but the most tepid, bathwater cosmetics-- just takes me right out of it. It is not just the one thing, though; it is not as shallow as "OOP ONE GRAPHICS ERROR I WANT A REFUND," but each error makes the next one more obvious. The tunnels leading under a layer of seawater. Aircraft pathing through skyscrapers and terrain. Tractor trailers popping wheelies because the train station warehouse and access yard are a quarter pixel off from where they meant to end up. Let ten thousand gas stations blossom. After a dozen small, unrelated problems, every problem is obvious, and it makes it hard to see past them, even if they are absolutely immaterial. Even if the simulation was solid-- which is questionable, I think-- it would be so buried under minute but distracting problems that you may as well be playing covered in bees. I feel like the small problems are discounted because of their pettiness without regard for the psychological effect they have on the major problems, or on eachother, and that is a big part in exacerbating the spiral Ckylines 2 is in. I dunno. Just a view from the fence I guess.

What is the name of the piano song that starts at 1:18?

Modern game devs make me laugh. I had EVERY intention to buy this game pre release. But in the producers desperate attempt to get the game out no matter the state it’s in. They seal the deal that so many people won’t end up actually buying their game. Now I could give a shit about CS2

I've played this weekend again. What a mess. Countable framerate, slowdowns, jams in the subway for no reason at all.

i have a dual haswell i7 unclocked rig only at 44.8% use, and 128gb of ddr3 ram, and a titan x gtx superclock 18gb gpu. i use to play city skylines 2 max detail and rez everything windowed and full screen no issues. despite the game being broken with things not working in game from trash, to undergound mob events not even processing and the cia building for task force teams just being a 5% crime reducer. as no logic runs the economy or traffic at all to stipulate actual in game statistics. granted over the time since release they have fixed a lot of issues like physics holes, and things which would cause the game to crash, and city population fixes for out of town jobs and tourism, and they fixed a lot of the production extension buildings to actually have benefits. but still as i recall months ago there is still no interactive statistics and traffic simulations. where one of the best things about city skylines 1 was the scenarios and working to fix the city to have better economical energy resources, or to have so much functional traffic, or to make use of so many rail ways for a train+metro city, or even the fishing industry and harbor connect scenario which i found to be the funest of all the scenarios. except... whatever city skylines 2 did recently... the dam menu alone consume 22% of my gpu from 6% on the menu alone and causes random heat spikes to reach 89c. the card can take it at those temps but it use to run idle at 64-78c... and only when i built a big city did it start to push vertices and go up too 82-84c. but for some reasons the game gets logic confused running up heat temps randomly for no reasons at menu or if lucky to get into a city just crashes randomly. build any road, shift any terrain, wait on screen for idle or idle in menu or settings for more than 5min. rampant heat builds 86-92c peak and game crashes. let me put it this way, i can do world constructions in unreal5.3 with only 24% gpu usages at 78c and i dont get crashes. yet if i launch city skylines 2 and wait in the menu for 5+min i get massive thermal heat spikes. so whatever they broke within recent updates, i can not recommend the game to anyone in this current state... as it is a collateral risk to your personal hardware!!!

if they officially launched a mod platform the game would’ve been fine tbh

It’s basically what Paradox did to Victoria 3, tried to capitalize on the hype of the prior game and delivered a laughable fart compared to the previous title while also taking a dump on everything they had built in the past. The studio has basically become like EA as it effectively milks its player base while enjoying a monopoly it created from developing a superior product in 2013 compared to every other city building game. The Steam Workshop has single handedly kept all Paradox titles relevant to this day, as modders can often do total conversions of the games and add mechanics that Paradox could only dream of. Paradox turned their back on their community in exchange for whatever tf they are doing now.

If there is a single person at CO dedicating time to the console version right now, that would be a new low in their growing list of lows.

How did I miss this yesterday :( Great video, as always!

You're the only RU-vid creator I have watched for CS2, thanks for all your content. I played the heck out of #1 and my biggest wish for it was better multi core cpu support to find that this one just made itself way heavier and even top end PCs can't cope, it feels like a repeat of Cyberpunk for the consoles, not releasing it because they know it will run terribly. I stopped playing this one before Christmas and despite wanting to play more the lack of progress particularly with modding has made me lose interest, hoping it picks up in time.

Other RU-vidrs were praising the franchise and all of the sudden they are all against it, saying it's bad... like they had contract to advertise it and hype it.

I would have totally been fine with the game coming out in October 2023 if it was early access open beta. Only problem that it wasn’t😕

I purchased the game at launch and have not played it once. Rather wait until it is in a better state than sully my own experience with the issues it is currently plagued with

The turning point (or not) will be when they release the next patch that includes the modding. There should be a turning point because if it is ok it will diverge the attention to the mods while giving them time to fix the game while mods can bandage the game in the meantime.

I hope they find a solution to make look the city a bit more lively. For me, most sections of my city just feel lifeless. People are moving in a totally strange pattern and there are not many cars driving around.

I was so excited to play on console they had it up in the store and everything and on release night it completely got removed I was so disappointed that was a clear sign that they were behind

It runs for me so much better with the DLSS mod already, and it looks much better as well.

The fact that both KSP2 and CS2 have faced similar fates within a year of each other is really depressing as someone who really enjoys the first of both games, and even went to pursue Aerospace Engineering due to KSP. Terrible performance at launch, having to pay AAA prices for them, and worst of all is just the agonizingly slow progress on improving performance implying a very shaky foundation. KSP2 released over a year ago by now, after being announced all the way back in 2020, and while the For Science update did give me a reason to play it for a bit, it’s still in a very sorry state.

I don't see any possibility that they can get console out by the time they promised. Consoles have very strict requirements for performance/stability and it's clear CO doesn't have the capability nor the leadership to pull that off.

Personally, I really REALLY like CS2. Yes preformance is an issue, but that is one of the only issues I have had, also having to play at low graphic settings. But I feel like I can express my creativity with the new road tools and enjoy the game for what it is. I agree CS1 is still the better game, but I believe what Collasul and Paradox have is good, and just needs to be built on more, and CS2 can become ultimately the best city builder ever. I'm not oblivious to the issues, but I know that the devs will fix them, we need to stop bothering them and harassing them, and be patient and wait for them to fix it. (Not talking about videos and etc like this video. Construtive critizim and feedback is always good. I'm talking about people who actually harrass the devs for more work done faster.)

13:20 Where are the medium density Offices? 1 story at low density, and 100 at high. There's a middle ground that was completely skipped.

After 100,000 population, all bets are off as to how the game will perform. Like you said, its like watching a PowerPoint presentation. Until the performance catches up, the game will remain unplayed. I have an Alienware 32GB gaming computer, I will not buy another computer to play this game.

A lot of the lag feels like it’s coming from the simulation of every single sim in the city and all their wants, needs, actions, etc.

i pre orderd the console edition in june because it was my birthday now the game is going to release after my next birthday

I'm still trying to get my money back.

Im curious how they “fixed” the traffic accidents considering they only went on so long because the responding vehicles are stuck in the traffic behind the accident 🙃 when they implemented re rerouting it should’ve allowed emergency vehicles to drive backwards on one ways

Colossal Order is one of the absolute worst game companies in regards to scamming players over DLC content (along with Blind Squirrel's The Sims series) with 14 Expansion Packs, 21 Content Creator Packs and 23 Music Packs costing well over $250 to get them all. All of the problems that Cities Skyline 2 is having are in regards to money as well, since it would have been better to postpone release and save your game's good name, rather than appeal to investors by meaning a timeline but trashing any good will players have for your company (like Bethesda with Fallout 76 or CD Projekt Red with Cyberpunk 2077). Plus delays in mod support are also tied to money, as Colossal Order tries to figure out how to make players pay for some of that modded content. My guess will be that they will go with either a paid mods idea like Bethesda has been retroactively fitting into games like Skyrim. Or they will have a specific hosting company who pays them as the only option, as House Flipper 2 has done.

I can feel the pressure the devs at Colossal Order are going through from here, as i'm also a software engineer. Performance is the issue killing C:S 2, and their entire team should be put to work on this issue. It's clearly bloated.

My son got me CS2 on the early purchase as a gift. Couldn't wait for it to release and now I have given up on the game and went back to CS1. Hate that my son wasted his money so I am hoping they will get CS2 working. The talk of giving it at a discount really upsets me and there is talk that it will be abandoned and written off as a flop. From what my son has told me is dumping a game right after release happens and all those that purchased the game are just out the money. That sucks!

All they had to do was have mod support at launch or at least by the end of 2023, and preferably through the steam workshop (obviously that's not happening) and the community would have rallyed around it and fixed most of not all of the issues you could ever have with it, what I like to call the Bethesda way, that's all I want, I want my traffic manager back....just give us mods, the mod makers can do a better job with the empty canvas then colossal order can

Yep, got it on Game Pass. So glad I found it there because I was actually going to pay real money for it on Steam. This should have been an early access closed beta and the modders brought on board to participate and provide their input. I also got the original game on Xbox One Game Pass. It's an exceptionally good console port, runs perfectly and the controls are very comfortable and straightforward.

I specced my new PC specifically to play this game, and 6 months later I still haven't purchased it because of the issues! Paradox have burnt me before - never again.

I haven't played CS2, but just watching youtubers like Biffa and CP play it looks too complicated for my liking. Sure some things look cool and helpful, but I can't see myself paying for a game that I'm not going to enjoy as much. If I play then it'll be CS1.

I'm still waiting for the full release of Cities Skylines 2.

I uninstalled my copy after my fps went from around 90 to below 20 with only a 50K population...my setup is by no means weak yet they couldn't be bothered to try with optimization, so I gave up. It didnt help there was less than HALF the content present in CS1...cant even add water sources! I totally jst collapsed into apathy when I discovered that... What a damn shame! Maybe I'll try again in another few years. The major mistake Paradox didnt realize is, theyre not the only city building games on the market and while they CLEARLY wasted time with CS2, the indie community sure didnt! My current fav city builder is Timberborn! Great game, cute beavers and minecraft levels of customization! Who could complain with that ❤

No bike lanes, this a AMERICA CITY SIMULATOR 🦅🦅🦅🚙🚙🚙 We only need Highways and Parking places!!!! I already think that there is too much room for pedestrians in my city! 🔴SARCASM ALERT🔴

I was hoping they would include a compass. so w3 could get more in depth detailing done.

Wish we could just port the road building tools and map dynamics to Cities Skylines

Can't wait to see what you think of this week's post......

i dont expect much from colossal order, still waiting on the traffic fix for cities 1

I will never understand how games companies can put this stuff to market… have they not played their game? Better to have 1 month of hate for an extra delay then ruin your company! Sheesh they can no man’s sky this but that’s a very thin line you have to follow and you have to go above and beyond in the comeback

I don't want modding. Personally, I want the game fixed. Mods should be used when hard core fans want to mess around and play with the features and assets. Paradox seems to think that mods should be used to provide free labour for breadth of concept. The game should be entirely complete and enjoyable before modders even touch it. Mods should then be a cute little extra. The "traffic management mod" for CS1 for example was essential for actually solving traffic issues... And that's not even present in CS2 vanilla.

I feel like every gamer learns the hard way to never trust game developers, no matter how great their legacy and reputation is. I learned this with CS2, after splurging on the deluxe version, then trying to give it chance after chance until the refund timer ran out (it's only 2 hours on Steam). Almost $100 down the drain.

What about roads? Have you noticed how wonky they are around corners? The lack of traffic controls like modders added to cities 1…

I gave it an honest chance. Played it for 100 hours... and then realized the next day I logged onto my PC that I had absolutely 0 interest in the game. It just lacks everything... no thank you... another company added to my blacklist

All my planned Cities II hours went to Cyperpunk 2077. Safe to say it'll be quite some time before I leave Night City for the greener pastures of CSII. We all want it to be awesome, but for now it's other options.

I was a big fan of CS-1. I will come back in a year or two to see if Paradox has finally got the sh*t together and see if CS-2 is finally ready for prime time. I have a great distaste from Paradox and Colossal Order for serving us a half-cooked chicken giving us all salmonella poisoning.

I played it with Xbox game pass for like two weeks and yeah, modding is really needed. I am very glad I didn’t give in to the hype and got it as preorder or something 😂

I guess the moral of the story is to never ever pre-order a game or even consider buying a game at launch. This game should have never been released in this state unless they release it as an early access one and drop the price to maybe 20EUR. However, as it is now, this game is a scam, all the marketing and weekly showcase videos were suggesting a fully complete game with complex simulation but in reality most of it is broken or just doesn’t work. On top of that, the game has serious performance issues when the whole point of creating CS2 was to get a better optimised game (CS1 is quite outdated). I’m honestly shocked that a company can do this to its customers and get away with it, it kind of feels illegal.🤔 and the fact that they’re not in a rush to patch things up just adds fuel to the fire. Working on the console version when the PC one is completely broken is a joke. It just shows how they don’t care about making a functional game, they just want to pull in more customers.

I had been playing CS1 for years and switched over to CS2 on launch, and although it has its issues, I prefer the more complex economy and better road/network tools, traffic AI etc... so won't be switching back to CS1.

They need to get mod support out in a good state, then the game can rapidly get better, even if it's modders that fix it and not CO.

There is some good thing in Cities Skylines 2 but it was clearly released way to early. I think the game regardless of the launch has a bright future, but if you ignore the bugs which are being patched out the game at the moment feels bland, once you have built one city you have built them all currently. Now of course a team of 30 developers couldn't compete with all the DLC, content creator packs, and countless assets on the Steam workshop. Thats why the they inlisted content creators to make the region packs for the launch of the modding platform. We have already seen unofficially mods like Anarchy make their way into the game, and creators like Sully doing amazing stuff. The game needs a soft relaunch with the modding platform front and centre, and the region packs. I think when they arrive and CO should make it a big deal, people will start to come back to the game myself included who has currently shelved it as I'm not willing to risk using Thunderstore.

Let's see when the mods support works.... The Steam workshop, was a vital part of the susces for the first.

i am going to stick to what i know and what i love citie skyline 1 i am going to create a mod that turns the first game into the second with all the favourite features

"Our game can't run well even on a $4000 PC but don't worry we'll have it running well on a $500 console in 2 months xD"

14:45 Nice cut there, talking about a broken simulation, going from a helicopter clipping through a building to cars driving in a water-filled tunnel 🤣

I mean, true, they didn't finish the game completely, but tbh they do also have a bunch of other games coming out already, so stuff will probably get delayed

I'm less optimistic. I don't think this codebase is salvageable. But who knows :) I do not understand how they can make a game they already made, with similar graphics, arguably a simpler simulation.. but then also making it perform slower?? How?

I stopped playing City Skylines 1 because of problems. Then I heard City Skylines 2 was coming out. Then I thought why don't they improve 1. Next I heard 2 was rubbish. So what did I do ? I loaded up SimCity 4 Deluxe I have not played that in years.

I learned not to pre order not even out of support and wait a year or so for buying from this game. I think it’s atrocious that you rush a game, I rather wait a year or two or five for a polished game than this ms-dos paint project. I’ll wait but Iam a now heartbroken hardcore fan.

Lost all interest, lost trust in PI for releasing this game to fudge their figures 18 months before it was ready. CO even confirmed simple props and beautification aren't on the horizon, let alone the expected 8 month wait for general-release mod support. It shows you just what an absolute state the game is in when nobody is working on basic props.