The Concise History of Chinese Musical Temperament - Episode 1: Formation of Tones

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This episode covers the formation of the Chinese understanding of tones and temperament in early history, providing the foundation to the topic and the basic facts on the subject.
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Check out the original text passages cited with dictionary references at CText!
Guanzi: Diyuan
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Lu's Annals: Mid-Summer
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Late Summer
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Records of the Grand Historian: Sheng Zhong Fen
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Music used:
Lead In and Lead Out: Gufeng Cao (Guqin), from Standards of the Guqin (CD)
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Chinese Court Music (Confucius Homage Ceremony)
Zhaoping zhi Zhang
• 釋奠禮樂【昭平之章】（中國雅樂, Chine...
Xuanping zhi Zhang
• 釋奠禮樂【宣平之章】（中國雅樂, Chine...
Jiaping zhi Zhang
• 中和韶樂【嘉平之章】（中國雅樂, Chine...
Da Huo
• 【大濩】

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26 янв 2019

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@samusbros66 4 года назад

Found this while i was studying microtones, really amazing stuff, can't understand why the low views, truly gold material!!

@NP1066 2 года назад

If you were studying microtones you're not in the right place. You should research middle eastern music instead.

@jts1702a 2 года назад

@@NP1066 It helps to go back to the VERY basics of why we even have the concept of microtones, in the first place, and how they're rationalized into a concept...

@stephenspackman5573 10 месяцев назад

You-well, anyone reading this comment-should also be aware of the New Tonality RU-vid channel, which demonstrates a scientifically grounded _solution(!)_ for the temperament problem-though it only obviously works for electronic instruments, because the trick is to dissociate overtones from harmonics, which to my amazement is a perceptually valid thing. I'm so happy that so much material has showed up on RU-vid that's not stuck in this contradictory delusion that 12EDO is the One True Understanding. It seems as if The Algorithm has only recently discovered that it all forms a cluster…?

@RechtmanDon 2 года назад

Just a suggestion: When describing the up and down leaps, add a keyboard graphic (such as the one at the end) and animate the leaps on the keyboard to provide a strong visual for the ways the temperament is created.

@jts1702a 2 года назад

You're gonna love Ep.4 with Cai Yuanding's set...

@KaneyoriHK Год назад

Man, I've been wanting something like this series for a long time, I appreciate the hell out of this.

@nicholassmith5822 4 года назад

非常感谢! This is seriously good stuff! Thanks for including the original Chinese texts as well!

@Isxiros100 24 дня назад

This is an amazing video! I love your intro and your explanation of different music substrates and culture understand of sounds and music. Wish you could tell my friends who despise my chinese an middle eastern music playlists!

@idonnow2 6 месяцев назад

13:28 Glad to see ancient Chinese scales giving us good trans representation

@fotgjengeren 4 месяца назад

What a wealth of knowledge! Thanks so much

@gummiesbear 3 года назад

Great job! This is really thoughtfully presented and very enriching!

@JoshWunderlich 4 года назад

This video is incredible, had no idea I would find a video on this topic on RU-vid!! Thank you for putting the time into making this!

@brianbenet4914 4 года назад

Bruh you can find a video about literally anything on RU-vid.

@jts1702a 2 года назад

@@brianbenet4914 I didn't find anything of satisfactory depth on RU-vid -- hence why I made this. As the "father of Otakuism" Okada Toshio said - it's our duty to give back to the community as we enjoy and take...

@p.1346 5 лет назад

I started looking for guqin music and ended up finding your channel... once I took a look into it, I kept watching video after video. The way you explain things is so nice and clear I can't help but keep on wanting to learn more. I've always been interested in eastern music but had no idea about its history nor temperament, so these series of videos are pure gold to me. I'm seriously learning a lot and I do believe, as you said in the previous introductory video, knowing and understanding the very basics and origins of this wonderful music makes all the difference, both to play it and to enjoy it. Thank you very much for all the dedication and hard work you put into these videos, which can absolutely be classified as seminars, really. Lots of love and admiration from Argentina.

@almishti 2 года назад

Very nicely done! I have to watch a few segments over again to grasp some points, but overall this was pretty easy to follow and nicely narrated. Looking forward to watching the rest of the series.

@mattyregelmaessig8654 Год назад

Really great set of videos. I use these as recommended viewing with my Musical Acoustics class when we get onto world tunings and temperaments.

@stevenzheng5459 7 месяцев назад

Wow, your presentation is very clean and concise!

@alcyonecrucis 2 года назад

Love it. Very helpful for us who want to compose and also love the classics

@mikeloOdium 4 года назад

I'm dying to hear what's next. I'd like to help you on patreon, but unfortunately I can't atm, but I will do in the first opportunity I have. Thanks for your hard effort! Please keep on doing these videos!

@alcyonecrucis 2 года назад

Watching further, this was hilarious and very beautifully made. I will share it widely

@blitheringape5321 2 года назад

i am impressed with your oration, kudos

@edgarmatias 3 года назад

Great work!

@thenomad4606 4 года назад

Wow, this is amazing.

@empathematics8928 Год назад

Brilliant! Thank you.

@wizard1370 4 года назад

Incredible

@TravisTellsTruths 2 года назад

I love this

@greensnail4172 5 месяцев назад

Thanks a lot. It's really interesting. But from another sources it's explained what music was used to harmonize surrounds. And it was used like measurement and also connection between macro and microcosmos. So astronomy and TCM (traditional chinese medicine) is also here. Isn't it ? May be you can share some more information about this connection.

@clifford2222 3 года назад

太棒了谢谢你

@ColocasiaCorm 5 месяцев назад

Thank god for you. I desperately wanted to learn. Ore about chinese music as a discipline and philosophy. What orchestration techniques? Forms?

@Taporeee 7 месяцев назад

Could you compare synergy, influences and differences between chinese, japanese, south asian (Indian Raag etc) and Middle Eastern (Maqqam based) classical theories with this wonderful Chinese explanation. Maybe collab witj similiar youtube creators?

@jts1702a 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for the suggestion. Prof. LI Mei's PhD dissertation, to which this whole video series is based on, does also cover Arabic, Hindu, and Western temperaments as well, but they are simply presented for what they are without trying to discuss the mutual effects on each other. That is another whole field of VERY dedicated music history that is way beyond my knowledge or capabilities. Nonetheless, there'll be some mention and review at the end of this about this very subject.

@Taporeee 7 месяцев назад

@@jts1702a Thank you. I think bringing musicians together to talk and play and ask questions together kike the Darbaar videos (comparing violin and Dilruba or guitar and sitar) are good alternative ideas for future videos

@Taporeee 3 месяца назад

@@jts1702aThank you very much. It's very important work you have done

@electriclly Год назад

你很好 👋 i just got the I Ching to read in English, do these 6 tones relate to the hexagram that is talked about in the I Ching? 我想知到如果是不是明白！？😅

@yanchenzhang4672 5 лет назад

Excuse me I would like to know about the source of the background music starting from "Welcome to the first episode on the Chinese temperaments..." By the way, is it one single piece for the whole episode from here on? Thank you.

@jts1702a 5 лет назад

Please see the links in the doobly-do (description). It is a stream of several pieces put together, starting with Da Huo, and then the three Confucius Homage pieces, with a partial loop, and back to Da Huo again.

@yanchenzhang4672 5 лет назад

@@jts1702a All right, thank you. Sorry for not realizing that the links are soundtrack bibliographies that I expected there might be.

@yanchenzhang4672 5 лет назад

I have now memorized the fact that you put the bibliographies in the description section.

@Juinor Год назад

wow this is very very very deep eastern asian musical knowledges...

@maxchanhi 2 года назад

Great video. But I don't think the Diyuen chapter has direct compared five different grains or directions to five primary sounds. Of course, he compared five soils to the five primary sounds. "Gong(宮)" , the soil of Huangtang 黃唐土 "Zhi(微)" , the soil of Heizhi 黑埴土 "Shang(商)" , the soil of Chilu 赤壚土 "(Yu羽)" , the soil of Chizhi 斥埴土 "Jue(角)", the soil of Hechuanwotu 河川沃土 (hopefully it is right) But I went through the text of Diyuen, cannot find the direct mention of the connection of 5 grains or 5 directions has a solid connection of five sounds. I guess he mentioned seperatly the five sound ideology.

@CommandoDefau 2 года назад

Thank you for the discussion between Eastern and Western musical temperaments at this point in the video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M_eMUQ3hIeM.html.

@cdshop1301 4 года назад

Voice sounds like a Chinese Xidnaf

@flora5090 3 года назад

Best takeaway from today is that the note C# is transgender 😂👍

@jts1702a 3 года назад

good job!

@gaiawillis Год назад

Based

@PlasmaOscillations 2 года назад

I am not a smart person.

@jts1702a 2 года назад

Hah! Me neither. I just nod and say "oh" to the technical stuff, but note that smart people actually saw past the numbers and offered new solutions. Better solutions, each and every time. OK, maybe not EVERY time. (look at Ep.3)