My dad did mail order of 3 Carcano before the 1968 gun control act. 2 are 6.5, 1 7.35. Have plenty of ammo, good supply of enblock clips. Still enjoy shooting em.
Cheap to make, light to carry, soft recoil, accurate, dependable, easy to maintain, and a 6.5 mm round and rifle combo effective inside 300 meters, where most of the shooting happened. It was perfect for its time and mission.
Mike is an extremely underrated content creator. He has done so much R&D for the ammo that other content creators reference him without even knowing it. Great video. I will say that The Koba49's 6.5 cast load is by far the best 6.5 load I have found.
I have used his recommendations with molds, powder loads etc. I really have saved a lot of money and time not going the lengths of testing as he has done.
I've been watching thekoba49 for ten years now and its great to see his awesome collection and his knowledge about rifles shared. He is probably one of the most knowledgeable antique reloaders on youtube.
My collection is mostly Carcanos. Including 4 with the PS prefix and two with Tromboncino stocks. I bought over 100 because I plan to decorate my office like the Governor’s Mansion at Colonial Williamsburg. I want to use TT-33 variants fir the pistols.
Hi from South Africa, a Carcano sold here for $130 on auction ladt week. I had hesitated bidding on it as i had decided to stop buying firearms for now. May have been a mistake as we dont see them here very much
I'm surprised more didn't filter down from Ethiopia. The Italians left an absolute sh!t ton of them there when they withdrew. Oh well, we get em all now.
Finland bought 94 500 Carcanos and the 74 300 which were still in the books after war were sold 1957. Navy, airforce, flak and artillery troops used it to some extent. One front line bataillon though, formed from voluntary convicts and mps used it also. They hated it and always when the possibility presented itself, they were replaced by weapons which were "dropped only once".
My dad and I went to an army surpkus storr, and thsete was a barrel of guns for sale, under 10 dollars. I said lets get one, and he said they were too powerful. He was a marine scout sniper who was rsised on a farm.
My rarest Carcano is a m38 in 7,35x51. The gun itself is not necessarily rare but it’s not SA (Finnish Army property mark) or import marked. So, it was either a bring back or an early import. There are not very many m38’s that are in the US that aren’t either former Finnish guns or recent imports. I got a m91 long from RTI a few months ago. It’s beat and the bore is crappy, but it has an early walnut stock and I just wanted something from the Ethiopian horde and didn’t have a m91 long. But it was like $150, so that was fine for a wall hanger imo. My favorite is the m41. Mine shoots great and balances well. Got it probably 25 years ago for like $60 from Springfield Sporters.
The shots MADE BY OSWALD are easily do-able, even with a pos Carcano topped with a crappy scope. I'm blind in one eye and can make those shots with my Carcano, using its iron sights. Whether or not a second shooter was involved, the Oswald shots were easy ones.
Back in the 90s, me and a buddy of mine had a goal of buying a rifle from every warring country in World War II. We nicknamed the Carcano the “Cheesiano.”
KOBA49 MIKE is The Expert on all things Carcano including custom ammo that's the best on the market in my opinion. I would say that about all surplus rifles and loading when it comes to Koba49. If your interested in surplus firearms and cartridges check out his channel. He loaded some 6.5 Dutch I acquired and it's the best I've used in a custom rifle with Dutch Mannlicher action and express sights.
My Dad served in the Italian armored Corp in WW2 and the cavalry model Carcano with the spike bayonet was issued as a tanker rifle because it was short. One thing I noticed in one of the few photos I have of him is he is sitting on his tank wearing his coveralls, goggles and helmet but he was also wearing the ammo bandolier for the Carcano. I guess the tank crew were expecting to have to bail out and switch to using the rifle on short notice? I can’t buy an Italian tank like his but I recently bought one of the Royal Tiger Carcano cavalry model imports that were released from Italian surplus inventory. It’s a 1936 production gun so probably very close to the same vintage that he was carrying. Excellent barrel condition but unfortunately I live in California, still haven’t found ammo for it locally, and can’t mail order ammo.
Thanks for sharing your dad’s story, feel free to get ahold of us on Instagram or Facebook if you want to share your photo with us. We can feature it on the channel! My best guess is to why they carried a full combat load of ammunition is because maybe they realized that if a tank got disabled in combat, the crew might have to ditch it and provide support in an infantry role.
No, the bolt of the Carcano (specifically the integral bolt head and extractor) was inspired by the Mauser m89. Hence, they are referred to with names like the “Mauser-Paravicino”. It has nothing to do with the m91 Argentine specifically.
Fragmentation of 6.5x52 mm Carcano FMJ, 162 gr., gilding metal jacket torpedo bullet does not happen when impacting human skull at velocity less than 2000 ft/s.
How difficult is loading a partial Carcano clip into the magazine? The Garand's clip has to be inserted empty and then loaded while in the rifle, a process used in High Power competition for ten-shot rapid-fire stages; ten shots in one minute starting with two shots in the Garand and reloading with a full eight-shot clip. Yeah--ulterior motive. Did Lee fire three shots or five? One live round was found in the evidence rifle along with the clip, there was a hole in the wall at floor level, three empty cases in evidence, lots of confusion--was it possible to partially load the rifle or is it very difficult? If I were to use a Carcano in High Power competition, could I start with a partial clip of four and a full clip of six without jamming the Carcano during the first five shots?
Never tried to load a partial- but the clips I have used, you'd definitely want to start with the partial... I bet you can but it would probably be finicky
@@grant9939 Thanks. I'm trying to clear up the mystery of the two missing Carcano cartridges on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. Six cartridges per clip. The Warren Report stated that Oswald rushed upstairs from the last moment people saw him on the first floor lunch room around 12:23 PM and made it unseen and unheard to the Sniper's Nest where he pulled his disassembled rifle from hiding, put it back together using a dime (that vanished), loaded it with the ammunition on the scene and fired three shots--only three shots--before dashing back down the stairs to be seen 90 seconds later on the second floor. Kennedy had been scheduled to pass the School Book Depository a quarter hour earlier and was running late. When investigators "assume" they make an ASS out of U and ME. The Carcano was designed to reload very fast, cramming six shots into the magazine takes no longer than shoving a cartridge in the chamber of a single shot breechloading rifle. Only three spent cartridges were found and the Warren Commission had to scramble to adjust the timeline and the number of bullet impacts (on flesh and otherwise--at least two misses) -- nobody was timing shots with a stopwatch and current estimates of gunfire duration range from four seconds to eleven. Google "six shots in five seconds carcano" for a video demonstrating firing speed--not that Oswald was Proven capable of that speed, but it is in the realm of possibility that Oswald fired five shots instead of three. How difficult is it to partially load a Carcano? Can you do it against the clock in under ten seconds? I picked that as an arbitrary time because there would have been a finite amount of time to assemble and load the rifle. Dallas police had help botching the physical evidence--the FBI barged in, the Secret Service destroyed evidence and removed the corpse, and reports of strangers in the parking lot behind the wooden fence identifying themselves as Secret Service agents are troubling. Entered into evidence was a rifle, a clip (photographed being carried out of the Texas School Book Depository with the bolt open and the clip hanging from the bottom of the magazine), one live round ejected from the rifle when the bolt was opened and three spent casings near the south-east corner window that had been photographed after being picked up, examined, handled, and then tossed on the floor to be photographed. Even a kangaroo court would have difficulty convicting someone when all of the evidence had been proven to have been mishandled. I've been to Dealy Plaza and there is a large hole in the wall at floor level that looked quite capable of swallowing a cartridge case or two. No cartridge cases were reported falling out of the window. The place was cluttered. It is entirely possible that five rounds were fired but two spent casings were not recovered and entered into evidence. I would have felt better if three live rounds had been discovered in the Carcano. Would the prosecution have been able to demonstrate that it was possible to silently unwrap the Carcano rifle without destroying the paper bag, assemble and partially load it with four rounds using only a dime as a screwdriver in less than 60 seconds and then fire off three shots with accuracy? I picked60 seconds because that is the standard to field strip American service rifles beginning with M1 Rifle of World War Two--the service rifle Oswald was trained with. It's not what you know, it's what you can prove to the jury.
@@alancranford3398 interesting... yeah. How far stripped are you talking? Like taking the action screws out, to dissesemmble from the stock? The action screws would probably accept a dime... but 10 seconds to put together... not likely probably closer to 60 minimum, decent amount of turning... especially with a dime
@@grant9939 The Warren Report was vague on this but I'm guessing from an exploded parts view that there would be two action screws and two barrel band screws. I couldn't turn the screws on the action with a dime--I'd need a real screwdriver. The barrel bands--if they weren't too corroded. I'd also worry that disassembly of the action might change my scope's zero. Back in the Seventies I looked up some reference books like the link below and determined that reassembling the rifle in under a minute would be slow--normal field stripping is simply removing the bolt. The more fiddling, the more time required. My conclusion was that the Warren Commission had no idea as to how the murder was accomplished--how the rifle was smuggled into the building, when it was smuggled into the building, who smuggled it there, where it was hidden while the sixth floor was being refloored, or how the sniper managed to escape being seen by Bonnie Ray Williams and the other five men working on the sixth floor moved a lot of boxes without stumbling across a rifle. No evidence that the rifle was on the sixth floor prior to the assassination exists, whether the rifle was fully assembled or taken apart and hidden on that floor. Williams ate lunch in the sniper's nest and left an empty bottle, a cigarette pack, and the remains of his lunch in a bag on a box in the sniper's nest. Williams was seen but not identified by witnesses in Dealey Plaza. Making up silly and unprovable stories is a good way to lose a trial. What other tools were present on the sixth floor when police swarmed all over the place? In my experience, the floor crew would have needed tools. A typical tool set would have had a screwdriver or two to keep the power saw adjusted. How police missed these tools is a mystery--unless the tools had been removed from the sixth floor to avoid theft. personal.stevens.edu/~gliberat/carcano/parts.html
They aren’t that hard to load into the gun partially. The follower pushes the rounds where they need to go and it all locks up the same. It’s a bit more finicky just because you have the rounds rolling and rattling around in the clips.
Thanks for your comment on sterile Carcano rifles being made at the end of WW2 and for a few years afterwards. In 1954 the USMC "bought" a large quantity of 6.5mm Carcano ammunition made by Western Cartridge Company--all those sterile rifles needed ammo. Why the ammo wasn't sterile as well puzzles me.
can somebody please answer the question about the 91/24 ts & it being cutdown effecting the accuracy. its like the biggest question for me & nobody can really give me a real answer. I know the Koba himself on his channel spent alot of testing on it but im curious to what the stance is now
I personally don’t have one but Koba49 tested one of his out and it was as accurate as some other carbines he had. He’s got a video on it. His test most likely concludes that people mistaken them for being inaccurate when in reality they had a shot out bore or they were too far worn at the muzzle. Maybe I’ll try to find one at a gun show with a good barrel and give it a try.
If I remember correctly the thought is that the long guns have Progressively faster twist rifling. when the barrel gets cut short it lowers the twist rate of the rifling. The lower twist rate could theoretically cause the bullets to not stabilize properly. That's the thought process at least.
It's accented on the first A, not on the second!!!!!!!! Something like the Garand, but in that case probably, being Garand a French Canadian, on the second A it could be even right....
The assault weapons of the 1890s... btw - Carcano, according to the internet is pronounced with the same rhythm and cadence as the word coconut, with a little more emphasis on the first sylable. Thank you for the great kbowledge and history.
