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What about tom McDonald and the industry plants? I guess if there's anything in it it's up to me. Also big bands nirvana megadeth getting sued even though unsuccessful the damage is already done. Just doing my best 🎭🌻🎯
My Favorite thing about Ghost is that they pretend to have been around since forever with some of their EPs being "re-releases" from their "old vinyl records". They don't take themselves too seriously and just have fun rocking their concept. makes the live shows an absolute blast too!
@@RonniieSlaysIn their case they announced the “re-release” of 7 Inches of Satanic Panic… The first time they dropped it. Because it’s supposedly an EP that came out in the 60s.
all the "rereleases" are only called that for lore. 7 inches was Nihils album from the 60s that he rereleased for it's anniversary, but to people who haven't went into the lore it's still just a new album.
Another thing that has made them so successful? They’re absolutely killer live. The ghouls (no matter who happens to be playing) are always incredibly tight, Tobias is incredibly charismatic as a performer and the theatrics and presentation make their eerie yet catchy songwriting even more captivating. Without a doubt one of, if not THE most enjoyable shows I’ve been to.
i can't disagree that they're good live. BUT (yeah i'm a metal elitist who cares) you see them once, you've seen them a hundred times. IMHO it's too well-oiled of a machine. i need a little messiness in a live show.
In my opinion what makes any great band special, including Ghost, is that there's no way of mistaking who you're listening to. You will know it's them.
Yeah, there is often a very easy trademark of a group. I see it most commonly in the world of cinema. Directors almost always have a signature in a film that makes it know that the work is theirs. Think of Wes Anderson or someone like that… Music has it too, sometimes a riff can be super easy to tell who wrote it. That’s one thing I love too.
My Uncle was a huge influence on me for music when I was younger. He introduced me to Maiden, Crue, Metallica, etc. When I introduced him to Ghost his immediate response was that it gave him that same feeling he used to get in the 80's and 90's when a new metal album would drop. It was like it brought back a wave of nostalgia for him, even though he had never heard Ghost before that. I think this is what makes Ghost so special. They give you something that sounds and feels familiar but it's something new, and slightly different. I think this is what will make them last for generations to come.
I'm probably around your uncle's age, and that's exactly how I feel about Ghost too. I thought really good music died sometime in the late 90's, and then Ghost came along and proved me wrong. Tobias has an incredibly deep and wide love and knowledge of rock music, and he pours all the best of it into every song he writes. And I see nothing wrong with that.
I’m generation x myself so I’m chore than likely around the age of your uncle if not older. None of this sounds anywhere close to 70’s / 80’s / 90’s metal! It sounds like generic pop rock with “creepy” face paint!
@@werewolflover8636 Ghost never claimed to be metal. Sounds like you're just another boring metal "purist" who doesn't know how to have fun, or enjoy good rock when you hear it. Get over yourself.
One of the greatest tragedies of the internet age is that MySpace didn't backup their database and we've lost all the amazing cult bands that had stuff on there. I get sad/mad everytime I hear the name MySpace because it really was something special before that database wipe happended
@@timhorton8085 Sure, people should keep copies of important stuff and not just put it on social media. But also large companies who's entire business is online should backup their database. That's standard practice.
@@timhorton8085Duh. But the point was, they didn't, and that sucks. A lot of randos make some great music then quit and get day jobs bc things never take off, and some great music is lost forever.
@@timhorton8085 completely misses the point. i bet 95+% of the bands have a backup, but if your band disbanded you are not gonna create a new social media appearance unless you got some kind of fame that would justify such a move.
@@timhorton8085A load of those songs probably are on CD-R's, minidiscs, casettes or Zip Discs somewhere. I never did rip a hilarious song my brother made in a two-piece band at uni, but they had a bitter break up and it's a touchy subject, so I don't know if he still has the songs saved... (I wonder if I still have the Saint Zoe tracks I ripped? Ought to chuck them up on RU-vid with period photos, so people can relive Cambridge in 2005
@@dappunk1 ??? Seven Inches of Satanic Panic is the EP. Mary On A Cross is one of the two songs on the Ep. I am confused what you and the other person are saying. 😭
7” implies the relative size of a record single (among other things) and a record single would have a side A and a side B. EP’s are typically shorter length albums that a usually longer than 2 songs. It’s definitely made to look like the rerelease of an old single, but if the band themselves (or himself) chooses to label it an EP that would be their (his) prerogative. I would definitely consider it a single unless Ghost specified differently.
@@Uff-dada I know what SIOSP is? It depends on what numbers you use, but ive seen track 1-3, and 2-6 as EP, so It doesn't really matter. 🤷♂ At the end of the day, you can really call it either
Tobias said that Ghost's profit margin was in the red for several years. Can you imagine throwing all your money and time into something for years and years without seeing positive results? Absolutely insane dedication.
But with successful bands, they know through fan turnout at shows, sales, streams, etc as a good indicator if they should keep doing what they’re doing and stick with it.
Every successful business owner I know has gone through the same thing. Most people never succeed because they can’t imagine doing exactly what you just described.
Finn, you’re latest videos on this channel have been superb quality. Just wanted to let you know, since you said it was a big goal for your channel. You’re really killing it. Appreciate the content, man.
Ghost also puts on great live shows. Looking back at the most successful live performers, they all were great story tellers. They engage the audience between songs, with funny anecdotes or jokes. It's not just swap costumes / sets, and jump right into the next song. They make you feel like you're not just some numbered seat that contributed to their paycheck.
Any Ghost song I hear gets stuck in my head for days....it's a testament to how catchy their music is.....and man their production is God tier.... ..great band all around
swedish language is catchiest language in a world. that is the reason why Abba and Ghost are so , well, catchy and most mainstream hits are written by swedish songwriters and producers.
Sweden are definitely just great when it comes to music. Blindside, Scar Symmetry with Christian, In Flames, Arch Enemy, Dark Tranquility. It's just impressive how many bands I like are from Sweden. Also, Agent Side Grinder are good too.
I would say "Mary On a Cross" by Ghost is what "I Was Made for Loving You" is to Kiss. Maybe not their best or most critically acclaimed song, but one of their more accessible songs and easily thier most listened to song on streaming services.
I would agree with this sentiment. Ghost fans themselves would probably usually pick something like "Square Hammer", "Ritual" or "Cirice" as a favorite, even among their singles.
Impera was instantly nostalgic. Even though it's been out for less than a year, every time I listen to it, I get this feeling of nostalgia for a better time.
Got into Ghost in 2011. Got to see them in early 2012 at the El Corazon in Seattle. Then the following year on the Infestissumam tour at the Showbox Market. Made sense. Getting more popular, bigger venue. Two years later, when Meliora came out, they were back at the El Corazon! My friend and I didn’t understand this, but we immediately got tickets to see them in a smaller venue. I honestly would’ve thought they’d play at the Moore Theater as they were getting bigger. I kinda got tired of Ghost after that. Fast forward to 2022 and my 10 year old daughter is asking me about (as she put it) Ghost Band. I asked where she knew them from. As you probably guessed, Tik Tok. Now SHE has an interest in the band! Well, later this summer, I’ll be taking her to her first hard rock/ metal concert at the White River Amphitheater. I’m not telling her. I’m just going to take her and wait for her to put two and two together and watch her excitement! Looking forward to it! Sorry, enough of my babbling. Excellent video Finn!
Man I miss el corazon so bad I loved tht lil venue so fkn much and it was probably the only reason I’ve met so many of the bands I love I think that’s why it’s so successful a small Beni with huge bands in a personalized setting it’s imo the best venue I’ve ever been to🤘
It took me 3 separate tries in 3 separate years to "get it". Then one day I decided to sit and listen to their discography top to bottom (at the time Prequelle JUST dropped) and I was impressed. They have some great tunes, and their live show is unique and captivating. Tobias is a genius, wether you love them or hate them.
Kinda the exact opposite for me. I heard Rats on the radio after Prequelle dropped and thought "Wow...this is great!" Then I listened to their stuff on Spotify, heard Cirice and realized I had heard them before, just didn't know the name of the band
It’s crazy to see how consistent their sound has stayed through their albums with so many shifting members. Just goes to show how much this truly is Forge’s brain-child.
It's because tour musicians are not session musicians (apart from a couple very minor bits where they don't really have creative input.) So yeah...this is Tobias' baby..
Bro if you wrote a book and hired a bunch of people to read out some lines during a reading and those guys would yell "HEY WE ALSO WROTE THIS BOOK PAY US FOR WHATEVER WHOEVER IS PAYING YOU"
I feel like Ghost have only just gone from strength to strength as time has gone on. They just know how to write fantastic catchy and fun songs. Never understood the hate.
@@markhunt7682 I hate modern music fans referring to bands as metal when they are not. I am a Defender of the Faith. By the way, do you have a brother named Mike?
1. The lawsuit ended up being about unpaid proceeds (from touring, merchandizing), not royalties considering they couldn't collect those without writing or playing on the albums. 2. The people who sued WERE NOT part of the original group that started Ghost. In fact, the only member of Ghost not named Tobias who actually contributed writing to the songs DID NOT sue him... because he was paid royalties for what he did in the band.
I find it so bizarre that people call Ghost a metal band. Their sound is pure pop rock, with some horror film overtones, far far away from anything metal
They're the first band I ever saw live and I cannot overstate how amazing of an experience it was. I had a really great time and the neck pain I had the days after was well worth it.
Love how Tobias uses older ladies for that genuinely creepy “death is lurking” vibe. As I get older I notice that shit. Well my teenage daughter says my face would make a good Slipknot mask, so maybe he’s onto something.
When you said that you can have the best band in the world but if you can't get anyone to pay attention, it doesn't matter, it reminded me of something my dad (who is in advertising) once said to me: "You can have the best looking, most creative billboard in the entire world, but if you keep it in your living room, no one's gonna see it." It's so true man.
I have a fan theory that I know is wrong, but it still amuses me. I can imagine young Tobias Forge sitting in his room listening to Kiss and digging all of it. Including the rumor that Kiss was an acronym for Knights In Satan's Service. Then one soul crushing day, our young Tobias found out that rumor was just that, just a rumor, and was massively disappointed by that. Then he decided to rectify that injustice and form his own Kiss style band but have it be so explicitly pro-Satan that there couldn't be any mistake. Anyways, I know that was all a lot of nonsense, but it amuses me.
Ghost is one of the best and most unique bands to come out in the past decade. I've seen them four times and they get better every time. Also, to the geniuses below who screech "THEY'RE NOT METAL", well no shit Sherlock, they never claimed to be a metal band.
I highly recommend seeing them live if you haven't. They put on such a good show that I truly believe even people not fans of their music would enjoy. At least they did when I saw them somewhere around 2016-2017
I'm a long-time fan who has seen them multiple times. In the Meliora era, they played in 1000-3000 seat smaller auditoriums. Tobias had a lot of between-song banter and stories. They had no warm-up band, and played for almost 3 hours (with a 15 minute intermission). Then, Tobias came back on stage and talked for another 40 minutes about how much he appreciated having the privilege of doing what he loves and being able make a living out it, and how much he appreciates the fanbase, etc. It was my favorite show ever, and I've been going to concerts since the 70's. In last year's Impera tour, they were in a 15,000+ seat arena, the sound was crap (probably the phonics in the arena) had two warm-up bands (who did absolutely zero for me), played for 90 minutes with zero encores, had very little banter, and were gone. Even though I enjoyed their time on stage, I felt slightly cheated, as I enjoyed their older shows so much more. Not sure I'll be seeing them again, even though I'm still a big fan of their studio material.
I give them a lot of credit for the time they’re doing it. To break out as a metal band in todays world is rather impressive. They’re a total package. They remind me of like a modern day KISS with the way they promote and how it’s sorta run by like 1 guy where KISS was 2 basically. Catchy songs and a great look works wonders. Who woulda thought.
I see them as the modern day Alice Cooper, if Alice had a mythology. If youtube was around in the 70's, I'd guarantee Alice would have been making shorts like The Chapters.
I love Ghost and one thing that's totally underemphasized on this video is how RETRO their sound is - and how remarkable it is that they are popular despite being basically a Traditional Heavy Metal band. I find it all the more ironic that a lot of people Gatekeep them and hate them - these are the very same people who worship Old-School sounding Metal and hate more Modern Metal styles. It proves you can't win with Gatekeepers!
The reason I don’t like newer metal bands, or newer music in general is that there are very few innovators. Why listen to some shitty band like Volbeat when Metallica created that sound 40 years ago and took it so far they had to do an album with freaking Lou Reed just to feel like they weren’t losing their minds playing the same tired songs for 40 years straight? In any “wave” of music, there are a few originators, then countless imitators. We had peak metal 2 decades ago, it’s time the new bands come up with their own sound. But honestly, I don’t care what other people listen to, I’m happy listening to Florida death metal from 1990 and haven’t found the bottom of that barrel yet.
I dunno... in my experience people who like Ghost tend to be those who appreciate a wide variety of music, and a whole lot of us are gen-x OG metal heads before there were 1000 different subgenres. People like slip up there are dinosaurs who can't appreciate anything new or different. Funny enough he seems to dislike my 3 favorite bands: Metallica, Volbeat, and Ghost. 😂
I’m no gatekeeper I just don’t like revival bands. Some people like something sooo much they can’t stand if someone else isn’t into it, like I’m not allowed to have an opinion or I have to like what you like. It’s narcissistic
I love Ghost. It has an 80s vibe that brings a lot of memories for those of us who grew up back then and for the younger generation, it gives a taste of what it was like.
Saw these guys yesterday. There were TONS of young kids (guys and girls) wearing other metal bandshirts. However you feel about ghost, they are great for the metal scene. They are bringing lots of new, younger fans. If you like metal as much as I do, root for ghost and bands like them.
I got into Ghost with their Meliora album and got hooked from then and have seen them live twice, once during the Prequelle tour and again during the Imperatour. What I like about Ghost is that their sound is really accessible and (at least for me) always puts a smile on my face. They have a ton of really catchy songs, and that's just part of the allure along with the lore and the stage prescence, and as someone else in the comments said they are amazing live performers, every time I've seen them the ghouls have knocked it out of the park and Tobias has been great.
4rth Swedish band that got a whole episode by Finn. Meshuggah, Refused, In Flames and now Ghost. For being such a small nation, Sweden continues to leave a legacy in metal.
I posted a Ghost video online about a year ago with a comment like, "Why have I not heard of this band before?? They're awesome!!" aaaaaand it was then that I found out that one of my friends is a Ghost love-turned-hate "I knew them before they were cool" hipster and he HATED my post 😂. The reason I hadn't heard of them before is because I'm over 40 and I'm a mom, come on, I don't have that much time to discover new music! I'm obsessed with Ghost now, I would have loved their music sooner had I known.
I remember the first time I ever heard Ghost. Because of the lore and the singer's character, I was expecting something really heavy and dark. When I realized they sound like 70s rock I was stunned. I can't get into the music but I still think it's a cool project
Going to their live concert in Auburn WA this year really excelled my love for the band. I went from being just a casual listener of their songs, to being an outright super fan. No matter the controversies, there is practically nothing that will stop me from adoring and supporting.
I saw Ghost open for Iron Maiden in 2017. I hadn't listened to them before and the only thing I had heard about them was "ThEy'Re NoT rEaL mEtAl ThEy SuCk." I ended up really enjoying their set regardless, only kinda recognizing the song "Square Hammer." It wasn't until 2021 that I actually delved into their stuff, and man I got hooked. Now they're one of my favourite bands!
as easy as it is to hate Ghost, it's also hard to hate them too. i get it if you dont like their music, but they really are one of the best hard rock/metal bands around. there is a reason why they are so successful, Tobias has put a lot of hard work in to this project, and it shows.
Boy they are pop alright! Pop metal, mom metal, some fun hybrid like that. And I was honestly surprised when I found out they are not from late 80s, big love for getting that sound.
I love Ghost. Besides, as you stated Finn, the fact they created an actual story around the band, I just think the songs are amazing. I truly think they are levels above almost anyone in metal today in terms of being able to incorporate killer melodies and hooks in their songwriting. Great video!
Wow, I just love their music.. Heard them on the radio.. Great sound and the pieces get stuck in my head so I go listen again.. sort of cathartic.. I love the pope thing, how he moves and stuff so the theatrics are a plus..
I watched them live in Rock in Rio in 2013 in the same day as Sepultura, Alice in Chains and Metallica. Now that I know James Hetfield is a fan it makes sense how they were on the main stage that same day so early in their career, James probably gave them a helping hand. I didn't know shit about them and didn't think much of it, used their show to rest a little but it caught my attention, later I started listening to them and became a fan. I love going to festivals and listening to bands I don't know to see if I find something I like.
Ghost is the whole package- Great music, theater, story and great live band. Brought back 70/80s Rock! They touring this summer...GO see Them, u wont regret it!
I found myself loving tf out of so many Ghost songs but never really knew shit about the lore because i just never paid attention lmao. I think Tobias really is one of the best song writers today. I predict they got plenty more hits to come.
I liked them up until Melioria. Never hated them, but the direction they went in after that album and beyond just didn't click with me the same way their first two or three albums did. Saw them live once and it was enjoyable, they delivered pretty much exactly what I was expecting.
One crucial aspect of Ghost is never mentioned for some reason: their humor. You had snippets of one of the lore-videos in your own video so you must have seen them. Everybody who thinks that Ghost is just theatrical to be artsy and self-referantial is just wrong. Tobias Forge is just incredibly funny imho which comes to show when you follow the videos that they produce. This puts everything into contrast: black metal inspired occult outfits but rather poppy songs, well produced but funny videos that create some sort of meta-humor that encompasses change of characters and musical themes as a constant factor of their art. Ghost is so much more than meets the eye. Discovering all of that is half the fun besides the music which never really accounted for being "true" metal in the first place.
I heard Ghost for the first time when I saw them live in 2013 during Sonicsphere in Milan and fell in love with them. I’m still in love with their music. 😍
Man, I was one of those early super fans when they were still pretty small. They used to hang out with the fans after the show, out of costume, and you got to know them. They definitely had several drummers and bassists over the years, but I promise you, the two guitarists were not just hired studio musicians. They were his friends. They had been there since the beginning. Omega (the rhythm guitarist's stage name) in particular was very involved in song writing and a lot of the aesthetics of the band. He and Tobias had been friends for years. The courts ruled in Tobias' favor because he was definitely the one who took over the business aspect of the band from the beginning. But it's still pretty shitty how everything went down. It was a bummer to be a super fan who got to know all of them because it was obvious people's feelings got hurt. It's never really felt the same again (even though the new musicians are great guys and gals too.)
I've heard a few GHOST songs & I couldn't get into them, but very successful/talented band. I appreciate ya Finn for teaching me so much about different types of heavy music. One Love y'all ❤️🎵💜♾️🖤💯💯💯♠️
@@brandonhayes670 right on homie. Definitely an awesome band , I just personally never got into them big time I mean I like Ghost, it's just there's soooo much music I listen to I don't have enough time to get into every band/artist I only 'like' but I'll give any a chance. N when it comes to metal I mostly listen to Metalcore DeathCore and Nu metal. 🤘🖤💯💯💯♠️
LOL no! There’s no comparison to whoever these Kiss wannabes are compared to bands like Gun N Roses who were the biggest band in world and everyone and their brother knows at least one of their songs! I’d never even heard of these posers before today!
They're not very heavy by today's standards but they're on the same "heaviness" scale as Dio or Black Sabbath. I would personally call them Hard Rock, and they make amazing fucking hard rock
How could you not mention that Tobias was the leader of legendary underground DEATH METAL band REPUGNANT?! An absolute Classic for fans of Old School Swedish Death Metal. We all (UG Metalheads) knew who he was when Ghost started.
Ghost rules! Been a fan since seeing Hetfield champion them in 2011. Met them all after shows on the second and third album cycles. Gotta admit, as much as I loved the original Nameless Ghouls, I was pissed that they did what they did and ruined the mystique of the band. I was a little burned out by the Prequelle record and skipped that tour cycle (as well as the Popestar one with the hired gun Ghouls)….the latest record is fantastic though! And their live show is wild…in August, I’ll have caught all 3 US legs of the tour!
One thing that stuck out with me when they released they first album over a decade ago, is how different it was compared to a lot of other bands coming out. I feel like metal in general has been stuck on this path of being as angry or brutal as possible. Ghost is just a breath of fresh air, even all these years later. Don't get me wrong, I love death metal, black metal, doom metal, etc. But it seems like every new big band that comes out is the same death metal band over and over.
I honestly don't understand how anybody can HATE Ghost. If you don't like their music, sure. But hate? They're so tongue in cheek and don't take themselves serious enough for any kind of hate to be granted. It's understandable when bands like Creed and Nickelback became hated because they did take themself way too serious and acted douchy in general.
The lore, the stage presence, how tight they are live, not to mention just a lot of fun. I've followed them since Opus Eponymous and stuck with them through all of the experiments. Ritual is still my all time favorite concert because it's a whole thing! Even after killing my beloved Papa II. The whole thing is crazy and I'm all in..lol Also, the lawsuit was BS. Proven by the fact that Martin bowed out of it and he and several other members of Magna Carta Cartel are still tight with Tobias. He put up all of the money, wrote all of the songs, even did all of the recording playing most of the instruments himself with a few exceptions where it was usually big band people from Swedish bands that sat in the studio, but didn't tour.
Great explainer of Ghost. I still stand by the opinion of Ghost being a very mid band that just happens to put on a show and market very well. It's Alice Cooper for the new generation essentially. As you've said before the C-tier is the actual A-tier. Props to Tobias Forge and his vision.
I discovered them a couple years of ago.Was hooked immediately by the Cirice video,great song as well.Other great songs are Absoltion,Pro Memoria,Rats,He Is,Faith,Life Eternal, Pendulum To The Pit,Square Hammer,& If You Have Ghosts.But not a big fan of Impera.Too poppy for me.But they have at least ten solid songs.
Great band ! And great band live 😊 very unique,their stuff is so catchy,the people that hate them are normally "metal elitists" who always have to be negative about something that isn't their liking 🤣
Tobias was also in a band called MCC (Magna Carta Cartel) with everyone in that lawsuit. Although it was his project, it was still collaborative. Same people with his different band that he was apart of, not the head of. Tobias got to be the head of a band, and decide who got what. I think it got to his ego. Since then, the sound & tempo of the band has changed drastically, which is why some older fans aren't happy with new Ghost.
I love Ghost! Been listening to them since 2016 and every album is awesome. Saw them twice and they put on one of the best shows you will ever see! Each album is different but in a good way! I remember when I first got into them I was like damn that dude is starting out pretty late in his career lol. Then found out it was a mask and was on the ride from there from papa 2 to #3 and so on. My uncle is 73 and loves Ghost and saw them both times here in Detroit with me!
I remember when Rats was released and every metalhead got pissed because of how poppy it sounded. But I gotta say: It's not that surprising that Ghost have pop-elements in their songs. They're SWEDISH! I mean if Finland has most metal bands per capita, Sweden has most pop artist per capita. Also, isn't that the most rock move ever? For the rocker to jump into bed with the poppy cheerleader and piss off the gatekeeping metalheads?
This is a great summary & analysis of their career. Tobias reminds me a bit of Ronnie Radke, their bands being in some ways more like solo project rather than traditional bands. And both of their bands have been quite divisive- you either love them or hate them. Interestingly, I know Ronnie is a fan of Ghost, but I'm not sure if the love goes both ways since Tobias has spoken of his hatred for nu metal. FIR & Ghost are also both bands that I only fell in love with over the past year or so but whose old work I now appreciate also.
I love the first two albums, and the EPs. Not as much into their albums after most of the original members got booted, but there's a song or two here and there I can jam to.
Also this isn't me "taking a side", there's definitely a serious difference in sound since the band's other members were booted. They did a lot more than be session musicians and people who knew them behind the scenes knew that. But Tobias is still a very talented musician and knows how to put on a show. It's just not the same band in a lot of ways. And yeah, he's done some really good things too outside of music.
Ghost is marketing wise the new kiss, for the people who love the idea to be part of the metal scene but is far to be there. For the people who isn't shy to flash those horns as soon as they ear a guitar plug in a distortion pedal in a very inoppropriate occasion
This was a great video. I used to be a massive Ghost fan. I appreciate that you empathized with how the nameless Ghouls felt during that whole lawsuit. Fans have speculated for years that the Ghouls brought a little more to Ghost than Tobias has said. While I don't doubt Tobias is the lead man with most of the big ideas I think the Ghouls added a lot, after Meliora the music took a turn. I feel like the pop sensibilities that creeped up over the years became too much on their 4th album. I haven't been too big of a fan of anything in the Copia era, though Rats is a banger. I really wish they would release a throwback EP and create some stuff closer to their first two albums for the old school ghost fans but we'll always have their early music which still kicks ass.
I feel the same. I caught on to them during Opus and saw them twice right before Infest and right before Meliora came out in a small club called The Launchpad in ABQ, NM. I loved this band and had a T-shirt for every day of the week+ (No Joke). But once he fired the original Nameless Ghouls, something happened. Even if it was just 5% of their influence/writing, something changed, and Tobias took them in a different direction. Think I had 12 T-shirts and sold them all on eBay, except for one that sits in the bottom of my drawers. It's a shame, I just can't get into them anymore 😢