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The Controversy Behind Nike’s Vaporfly Running Shoe, Explained | WSJ 

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Nike’s Vaporfly shoes have become a popular choice for both elite and amateur runners.
But the shoes may soon be banned in professional competitions if World Athletics, the world governing body of track and field, decides they offer an unfair advantage.
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Комментарии : 13 тыс.   
@thendomudau8778
@thendomudau8778 4 года назад
Imagine making a shoe so good it's considered cheating.
@anomad6314
@anomad6314 4 года назад
carbon plate acts like a spring.... so all the records obtained with vapourfly should really be wiped.
@thendomudau8778
@thendomudau8778 4 года назад
@@anomad6314 so is the shoe not good? 😂
@iggymiranda1797
@iggymiranda1797 4 года назад
@@anomad6314 shut up you Adidas shill
@GhostSamaritan
@GhostSamaritan 4 года назад
@@anomad6314 Or maybe other brands should step their game up?
@batorsagandszerelem4474
@batorsagandszerelem4474 4 года назад
I don't get the problem. If the vaporfly gives unfair advantage, then make all the runners wear vaporfly, so the playing field is even again. I think a shoe that can actually make you run faster is cool.
@dosephinedostar3543
@dosephinedostar3543 4 года назад
“With the Tokyo olympics around the corner this summer” that statement didn’t age well
@katekramer7679
@katekramer7679 4 года назад
😭
@dnice4335
@dnice4335 4 года назад
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SAD!!!
@Ruby-pi4jm
@Ruby-pi4jm 4 года назад
And this wasn't posted that long ago. Man can things change!
@agneevb.8653
@agneevb.8653 4 года назад
I scrolled for this comment
@ZWolferZ
@ZWolferZ 4 года назад
r/agedlikemilk
@nachot6592
@nachot6592 3 года назад
I disagree with the limitations. EVERY SINGLE running shoe, before and after the vaporflies, from one or two centuries ago, you name it, has been designed to offer an advantage; to improve our running prowess. The vaporflies just happen to be the first to manage to give such a performance boost but they will not be the only ones to achieve it. This is just the beginning.
@krazed0451
@krazed0451 Год назад
They put a literal leaf spring in them...
@jasoncox9256
@jasoncox9256 Год назад
Agreed. Anything beyond bare feet is technically a mechanical advantage. As Nike said, the shoe does not input more energy into the system, it makes more efficient use of existing energy.
@livelaughlucass
@livelaughlucass Год назад
what leaf spring
@StarComet7
@StarComet7 Год назад
i run at a national level, and if shoes goes to a certain level it will be an equipment sport and just be a money sport.
@definitefenrir6598
@definitefenrir6598 Год назад
@@StarComet7 It already is all about money maybe not to most of the athletes who put in the work but to everyone else sports are nothing but money, It hasn't been about pushing what is humanly possible for long time.
@lukedavis5411
@lukedavis5411 3 года назад
“Why are they illegal?” “You run good in them”
@user-oz5xb9ed3w
@user-oz5xb9ed3w 3 года назад
well, you have to be able to run good in the first place. not like these are gonna make a slow person win
@wheninthecourseofhuma
@wheninthecourseofhuma 2 года назад
You might as well give the runners stilts
@knptennis7379
@knptennis7379 4 года назад
This is one of the longest Nike ads I have ever seen.
@theseeker1694
@theseeker1694 4 года назад
KNP TENNIS exactly 😂
@realthoc
@realthoc 4 года назад
all these "journalistic" documentary styled reports are just ads for nerds.
@AlbertoMazarro
@AlbertoMazarro 4 года назад
agree
@lucascarman2578
@lucascarman2578 4 года назад
That's exactly what I said. I bet Nike paid this journalist or the Wall Street Journal to make this piece
@LordVodka313
@LordVodka313 4 года назад
Exactly. I'm not into running shoes and I'm sold on this.
@dchen2140
@dchen2140 4 года назад
All I learned from this video is that I want the new Nike Vaporflys.
@metaphoricdirigible1499
@metaphoricdirigible1499 4 года назад
Daniel Chen Same. Shameless plug but effective.
@sportcoatjoditv7148
@sportcoatjoditv7148 4 года назад
Exactly !!!!!!
@caffeinator1849
@caffeinator1849 4 года назад
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what I called a successful marketing
@davidkonevky7372
@davidkonevky7372 4 года назад
Me too
@allenscenery
@allenscenery 4 года назад
Another great commercial by Nikes.
@c_harris8714
@c_harris8714 3 года назад
You can not just ban a running shoe.. you either impose a standard shoe that all runners must wear in professional events or nothing at all. Banning particular running shoes just opens a can of worms and will never set a definitive standard that is consistent for runners to abide by.
@sandybakers690
@sandybakers690 Год назад
Can of words?
@dannynysus
@dannynysus Год назад
@@sandybakers690 Yeah, can of words. A.k.a., alphabet soup 🍲
@humsse-pulmanojohnhumprey4991
Absolutely agree with this! fake advertisement
@causethatshow
@causethatshow 7 месяцев назад
@@sandybakers690 In other words, fool me once shame on me, eh, fool me twice shame on eh.....you won't be fooling me again. George Bush hahahahahaha.
@user-pe3tt7iu7g
@user-pe3tt7iu7g 6 месяцев назад
standard shoe is not it
@Hexnilium
@Hexnilium Год назад
I recently bought a pair, completely unaware of this controversy. The shoes definitely gave me a huge boost. I could feel the shoes helping me spring forward somehow. It increased my stride length, and made it easier to make each stride. I would estimate that it gave me about a 10% increase in efficiency. It also seemed to help with turns which were a weak point for my running. Turns always slow my pace down, but with these I maintained the faster paces. All in all, I know the shoes helped me go faster and further and with greater ease. The shoes are incredibly light. Even the shoelaces are light and made to stay tied. The engineering and precision to details are incredible. Should they be banned or discouraged? I don't think so. They help, but no different than how a pair of shoes from 1950 might compare to a pair from 2015. They're just more advanced shoe technology. Part of the future, not the past.
@user-pe3tt7iu7g
@user-pe3tt7iu7g 6 месяцев назад
I remember I used New Balance 15 years ago and it helped me in Cross Country running or Mercurial Vapor soccer cleats that helped me run faster.
@LYJManchesterUnited
@LYJManchesterUnited 4 года назад
When companies finally makes a product that does as advertised " We can't allow that."
@JohnSmith-cj9cx
@JohnSmith-cj9cx 4 года назад
I wouldn't be surprised if Nike's rivals are behind the banning campaign.
@robywankenobi32
@robywankenobi32 4 года назад
Sounds like F1 racing haha
@neitherlink6612
@neitherlink6612 4 года назад
@@JohnSmith-cj9cx since it's expensive innovate, let's ban those who do, so we don't have to.
@anomad6314
@anomad6314 4 года назад
folks can use the shoe... but not for competitions.
@georgerosebush9754
@georgerosebush9754 4 года назад
@@robywankenobi32 I immediately thought of the fan car and how it was instabanned.
@JamilKhan-hk1wl
@JamilKhan-hk1wl 4 года назад
Its fake. Everyone knows that running in crocs gives you the most advantage
@devon6am
@devon6am 4 года назад
Jamil Khan súper versatile shoe, the cruise mode and the sport mode
@sownheard
@sownheard 4 года назад
Crogtech
@timmyfranckson338
@timmyfranckson338 4 года назад
I am speed
@Jack-hm5fl
@Jack-hm5fl 4 года назад
Bro there’s actually these kids that run a 5k near my area every year in crocs, and one of them is like 12 and can go sub 18 it’s insane
@Sce45rays31
@Sce45rays31 4 года назад
And blisters...
@tevitateulilo7573
@tevitateulilo7573 3 года назад
This man really compares wearing Vaporfly’s to doing drugs...
@sto-humanfriendly
@sto-humanfriendly 2 года назад
Doping is not doing drugs sometimes. It can refer to taking out your blood, oxygenating it, then returning it later
@kys9611
@kys9611 2 года назад
@@sto-humanfriendly but even with your example you have to agree that it’s still pretty absurd to compare shoes to oxygenating your blood artificially or ‘doping’.
@sarahmacleod2008
@sarahmacleod2008 2 года назад
@@kys9611 they say you gain a 4per cent advantage with the vapor fly so why do you still consider that absurd?
@peterflex1
@peterflex1 2 года назад
@@sto-humanfriendly did you read what youve just wrote? You can compare doing drugs with what youve said. He said its absurd to compare drugs with running shoes
@peterflex1
@peterflex1 2 года назад
@@sarahmacleod2008 4% of what? You are literally the person who is doing drugs right now
@elphive42
@elphive42 3 года назад
Theoretically, any shoes can affect the way a runner runs - I don’t feel that a significant advancement in shoes should be blocked, as improvements have consistently occurred for the entire history of the sport.
@peterflex1
@peterflex1 2 года назад
This.
@user-ti9zc1xv2b
@user-ti9zc1xv2b 2 года назад
Fine first principle thinking
@schumerthd
@schumerthd Год назад
Also, not discussed is how each runner technique differs and how Nike's shoe affects their technique. If you watch the runner in the demonstration he does a lot of heel striking and would receive more benefits by using Nike's shoe, whereas a runner who strikes closer to the toes would receive no benefit from using Nike's shoe.
@TheLaualamp
@TheLaualamp Год назад
I mean if you can put a spring in a running shoe then what if adidas comes out with some cartoon looking springy bois, everyone would agree that it's not okay, this one seems acceptable just because you don't see the spring.
@jmcantila9104
@jmcantila9104 4 года назад
If wearing a specified shoe for running makes the run illegitimate then we should just ignore any record unless it's done naked.
@dragonproductions236
@dragonproductions236 4 года назад
I mean by their logic you should also run on just dirt because track also gives you an unnatural advantage.
@OakenTome
@OakenTome 4 года назад
DragonProductions Everyone’s running on the same track, not everyone can obtain these shoes.
@all4god650
@all4god650 4 года назад
@@OakenTome dirt track fields exsist
@roberth4395
@roberth4395 4 года назад
@@OakenTome You are such a close minded person. Why could not they? Holy cow that was dumb. A top tier athlete can go to a store put down the cash and buy a pair of shoes just like a nornal runner. Nobody forces sponsorship on them. If they take the cash for wearing and promoting an inferior product that is their fault.
@imagitext1342
@imagitext1342 4 года назад
Back to the original Olympics!
@KolMan2000
@KolMan2000 4 года назад
“We want better shoes for running” *Nike makes better shoes for running* “Wait no that’s illegal”
@harumurasaki6615
@harumurasaki6615 4 года назад
exactly. absurd much ain't it? eeesh
@neolexiousneolexian6079
@neolexiousneolexian6079 4 года назад
I got rollerskates- I mean shoes with wheels under them! Run twice as fast!
@GratiaCountryman
@GratiaCountryman 4 года назад
The problem is that you can’t have a situation where some people have the shoes and others don’t. The race is supposed to be about a competition of runners, not shoes.
@Albus_Rex
@Albus_Rex 4 года назад
@@GratiaCountryman Buy the shoes then. Simple as.
@stephenwgreen78
@stephenwgreen78 4 года назад
@@Albus_Rex or just have Nike provide every runner in the Olympics with free shoes...best advertising ever
@alecj9227
@alecj9227 3 года назад
If they are gonna try and ban a pair of shoes, they should require that all world records must be attempted completely naked.
@ColinRowat0
@ColinRowat0 3 года назад
didn't the original Olympians compete naked?
@zionlee4594
@zionlee4594 3 года назад
@@ColinRowat0 yea, some say that it was done to prevent women from competing
@SimonWoodburyForget
@SimonWoodburyForget 2 года назад
What would be wrong with adding barefoot running into the olympics, if their shoes are found to give them a considerable advantage?
@zionlee4594
@zionlee4594 2 года назад
@@SimonWoodburyForget the key here is that athletes wear different sneakers. but we cannot eradicate all types of "inequalities" as it is inherent in some sports. if we made the effort to eradicate such "unfair advantage," we would have to swim indoors one by one, all at the same temperature, etc.
@SimonWoodburyForget
@SimonWoodburyForget 2 года назад
@@zionlee4594 I don't care much about _"inequality"_ I simply care about records being set in accordance to what the sport is supposed to be. What would you say if I took a bicycle to running competition? The philosophy of a running competition is clearly for a human to travel unassisted, so if shoes provide assistance, then how is it against that philosophy to not use them?
@BlackandChrome
@BlackandChrome 3 года назад
"We do not create any running shows that return more energy than the runner expends" Well at least they aren't breaking the laws of physics I guess.
@TheAlgerietop
@TheAlgerietop 3 года назад
I thought so aswell, or they're putting engines of some kind in their shoes.
@stevethebarbarian9876
@stevethebarbarian9876 3 года назад
Rather than creating infinite energies, they're referring more to something like putting batteries in your shoes, which then apply some sort of actual force when you're running
@nightlight0x07cc
@nightlight0x07cc 3 года назад
Now we need to see the compressed gas nitrous powered showed
@amralmatni6586
@amralmatni6586 3 года назад
They are talking about giving energy from another source like batteries or some chemical reactions maybe 😅
@krebgurfson5732
@krebgurfson5732 3 года назад
not sure if dumb, or making an obvious joke
@phillychilll6308
@phillychilll6308 3 года назад
You'd think all running shoes were meant to improve running
@eddiep5078
@eddiep5078 3 года назад
That's what I was thinking too lol, they need to lay out what the criteria for an "unfair" advantage is, rather than just asserting that this is unfair because of the results
@subspacesausage5918
@subspacesausage5918 3 года назад
I feel like ”doesn't exert more energy than the runner puts in” is pretty straightforward.
@ulvschmidt7174
@ulvschmidt7174 3 года назад
@@subspacesausage5918 these don't magically add energy it conserves energy making the runner more efficent
@herbderbler1585
@herbderbler1585 3 года назад
If you take away modern shoes and track surfaces, rolling back to the technology used when the first four minute mile was achieved, about 95% of athletes who hold that record would be unable to repeat the feat. Athletic tech inevitably advances alongside material science and it's always so arbitrary how they determine was is and isn't an unfair advantage. Now to be fair, if the whole track is a different surface, that means all the runners are literally on an equal playing field. Shoe technology unfortunately starts moving into a pay-to-play conundrum for each competitor, but one can't bemoan that aspect too much as it exists in literally any sport.
@amit9838831064
@amit9838831064 3 года назад
Adidas ultraboost is best
@weimpromptu
@weimpromptu 4 года назад
To level the playing field, everyone should wear Crocs.
@FarrFromPerfect
@FarrFromPerfect 4 года назад
Now that's racing!
@aeta7978
@aeta7978 4 года назад
It wouldn't be fair, sport mode gives you +100 speed
@dunkyt
@dunkyt 4 года назад
@@aeta7978 agreed, crocs are overpowered. Nerf it
@Zett76
@Zett76 4 года назад
How about just running barefoot? 🙂
@Jorge-125
@Jorge-125 4 года назад
Don't forget to use the ankle strap
@prazonparajuli7346
@prazonparajuli7346 2 года назад
How can a “shoe” be considered cheating? Every shoe is supposed to give an advantage to the runner by reducing the stress their body takes. Comparing a pair of shoes with “doping” is not very wise.
@reynantoriza6527
@reynantoriza6527 2 года назад
Bingo
@misterjones7929
@misterjones7929 3 года назад
As a 70 year old with over 40 years of distance running in legs, I find these shoes great for all round training as the combination of cushioning, stability and lightness reduce the chance of injury to my aged muscles and joints. The shoes give a nice feel of energy return to the stride, and if they increase my local parkrun pace to 9.30 min/miles from 10 min/miles, I can't imagine I'll be accused of having an unfair advantage on my feet..... :-)
@RagnarNomad
@RagnarNomad Год назад
Shaving off 30secs on average run time per km is no joke, grandpa. If it can be such a huge improvement to you then imagine the effect on professional athletes in their prime? The technology itself is not bad, but it's bad that it created imbalance on the playing field, thus action(s) must be done to level the playing field again.
@NorrisLikens
@NorrisLikens 4 года назад
There hasn't been significant innovation in running shoes in 50 years. Then when the innovation comes you want to ban it?
@gamezone4153
@gamezone4153 4 года назад
Thor Odinson Bruh
@theazrael4423
@theazrael4423 4 года назад
Yes, of course, it improves the performance of people of African descent and this channel is after all, the wall street journal
@zitronentee
@zitronentee 4 года назад
@Thor Odinson yeah, we should stay with sandals, right?
@AeroGold1
@AeroGold1 4 года назад
Same thing happened with the speedo bodysuits in competitive swimming.
@andrewbell7579
@andrewbell7579 4 года назад
The only thing I have against it is, not everyone can be sponsored by Nike and therefore it will cause monetary problems.
@lindastonebraker2512
@lindastonebraker2512 4 года назад
The fact that they’re actually relieving physical stress on the body is reason enough to use them!
@TatharNuar
@TatharNuar 4 года назад
Reason enough to ban everything else.
@illegallemur4024
@illegallemur4024 4 года назад
I have terrible knees so I’m game for those bad boys
@Leksuttaja149
@Leksuttaja149 4 года назад
lets introduce bionic suits to weightlifting since it relieve stress on the muscles!!
@mihnealazar7039
@mihnealazar7039 4 года назад
Cool but not all can afford these shoes. Let’s offer them for free to every team from every country and then make them legal at marathons!
@simplyruben3184
@simplyruben3184 4 года назад
@@mihnealazar7039 oh ok. so you say professional athletes that run at Olympics can't afford a $150 pair of shoes while they make huge salary's? yeah sure. 😂
@chevyon37s
@chevyon37s 3 года назад
Just like in auto racing, tire technology improves and the cars get faster and more efficient. Keep these shoes in the sport. The continual breaking of records is fine, and should be used as an example in the advancement in the human race not only how the human race has evolved but also how humans are able to manipulate inanimate object for advancement. To me if they ban a shoe for a running race, they must outlaw all shoes and should require runners to run barefoot if they truly want the most even playing field.
@kmcd6140
@kmcd6140 3 года назад
Seems like the Vapor Fly would provide better injury protection, as well, so I am all for finding a way to get these into the sport so that knock-offs can filter down to us plebes.
@aurtisanminer2827
@aurtisanminer2827 4 года назад
Shoes that’ll help protect runners from the continuous pounding motion that wears out their joints? Cant have that!
@andre9095
@andre9095 4 года назад
Aurtisan Miner it’s not SPORTS unless you’re getting HURT, unless it’s “doping” then you’re getting TOO hurt. Just watch football and don’t think about head trauma
@bethanygarcia3437
@bethanygarcia3437 4 года назад
Andrew Batz there’s a huge difference between feeling pain on a run/during a workout and getting an injury
@yeapthatsme2982
@yeapthatsme2982 4 года назад
@@andre9095 if u want pain...why even run with shoes...run naked...more pain...more game spirit ! We live in age where advance technology is called cheating...
@roberth4395
@roberth4395 4 года назад
@@yeapthatsme2982 People who think like you truly dustgust me. I only use sticks and stones as tools. Also, I only wear animal skin and eat raw meat.
@yeapthatsme2982
@yeapthatsme2982 4 года назад
@@roberth4395 yep...boomers will NVR let the world change....
@codycollins6468
@codycollins6468 4 года назад
Bruh having a shoe is a “unfair” advantage, running shoes are literally designed for performance it just so happens to nikes which is best...... some people prefer the carbon fiber plate in that other pair of shoes
@Cortesevasive
@Cortesevasive 4 года назад
ADIDAS master race
@SuperToemoe
@SuperToemoe 4 года назад
If they’re honestly mad about the advantages shoes give just ban shoes all together and have them wear shirts for sponsorships if you want it to be really fair
@spyseefan975
@spyseefan975 4 года назад
with your logic roller skates would be fine too
@shadowbanned-9577
@shadowbanned-9577 4 года назад
C-.. NO, NOT ADIDAS, We get that moniker...😉
@jeanardcontentvillarina1761
@jeanardcontentvillarina1761 4 года назад
If it's unfair then why not let them run barefooted
@brycerevo2058
@brycerevo2058 2 года назад
Eliud kipchoge had alphaflys on , and I don’t get how it’s an advantage if it’s available to everyone
@notgray88
@notgray88 2 года назад
But it isn't available to everyone. The shoe costs well over $200. Not everyone can justify spending that much on a pair of shoes.
@christopheradami-sampson2781
@christopheradami-sampson2781 2 года назад
@@notgray88 If long distance running is your profession then it doesn't matter the cost to you, you will pay for the advantage, if you run for fun why do you care about that extra 4% just have fun.
@Ziabetus
@Ziabetus 3 года назад
"they're so good it's causing controversy" has the same cringe as someone saying at a job interview "my biggest flaw is I work too hard." Dude shut up.
@MrDlt123
@MrDlt123 3 года назад
While wearing my vaporflys, I watched this 8 minute video in 6 minutes.
@rajkumarsinghrathore2659
@rajkumarsinghrathore2659 3 года назад
Wrong it would be around 7.68 min coz.. vaporflys reduces only 4 percent of time Lol!! 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@JoeShopper
@JoeShopper 3 года назад
I was only wearing one Vaporfly and one Danish Clog. I broke an ankle. You'll never guess which one.
@zafrylaiman8695
@zafrylaiman8695 3 года назад
@@JoeShopper i will never know because you didn't specify you wore which shoe on which foot
@JoeShopper
@JoeShopper 3 года назад
@@zafrylaiman8695 Here's the thing, I was wearing them on my hands.
@rubenmontano5589
@rubenmontano5589 3 года назад
@@JoeShopper hahahahahahahahahaha
@Lazuardinho
@Lazuardinho 4 года назад
"Running shoes that return more energy than the runner expends" law of thermodynamics left the chat
@DarkPa1adin
@DarkPa1adin 4 года назад
battery powered device has entered the chat.
@susanwojci
@susanwojci 4 года назад
Timestamp?
@Quezonol
@Quezonol 4 года назад
1:52
@kritarth
@kritarth 4 года назад
You do not have enough understanding of mechanical science, in short thru the compressive strength and structure of the sole, additional elastic force can be supplied to runner legs, thats what they mean they that statement
@owenkay8908
@owenkay8908 4 года назад
Ground force
@paulpat8845
@paulpat8845 Год назад
I remember my friend introducing me to these shoes, i didn’t believe they would make a difference but my 1.5 mile run shed 1.5 mins. It helped me pass all my PT test. Ive had the same shoes for 5 years, only wear them once a year for my test.
@stevenshorten6184
@stevenshorten6184 2 года назад
The plate just keeps the foam from collapsing on the forefoot. It would be a very uncomfortable ride if it weren't there. It isn't a spring - it's a support piece. The foam is what is incredible on the shoe. The current design of the shoe is probably not doing you any favors biomechanically speaking. It's a cast on your foot that isn't allowing your foot to flex naturally. Expect some injuries.
@RagnarNomad
@RagnarNomad Год назад
Nah, that plate can flex and return to its original shape: that is the definition of a spring. A spring does not always have to be a coil.
@stevenshorten6184
@stevenshorten6184 Год назад
@@RagnarNomad Right, it's a compliant mechanism. But its flex is secondary to its stiffness. The shoe is shaped to roll - not flex. It does flex a bit like you said. But supercritical foams delaminate and behave poorly because of their inelastic nature and suspect bonding properties on textiles that are not also TPU-based.
@RagnarNomad
@RagnarNomad Год назад
I got your point: the plate acts like a support to stabilize the athlete feet because of all that thick foam underneath. But this made me think a bit more: the plate by itself is not thing much, only by combining with that thick foam that they together create a "spring" and that "spring" aids the wearer of the shoes. One example is the leaf spring in truck, the leaves have different length thus having different elasticity but they work together to create a more comfortable ride on the truck. TLDR: the plate by itself does little but with glue and foam, they together work wonder, don't you agree?
@stevenshorten6184
@stevenshorten6184 Год назад
@@RagnarNomad exactly right. The system they created with that combination of materials combined with precise geometry (shape) revolutionized the category.
@RealestKraken56
@RealestKraken56 3 года назад
"The Tokyo olympics around the corner this summer" Uh oh he didn’t know
@elslord16
@elslord16 3 года назад
at least it around this year summer
@DankMemes-gm1th
@DankMemes-gm1th 3 года назад
@@elslord16 Not trying to depress you but IDK about that one chief...
@Dave_the_Dave
@Dave_the_Dave 3 года назад
Big corner
@willreilly7120
@willreilly7120 3 года назад
@@venkateshsrinivasan8457 how
@reubencass187
@reubencass187 3 года назад
@@willreilly7120 the algorithm specifically requested it
@SUPPORTYOURSELF
@SUPPORTYOURSELF 4 года назад
This is the longest Nike ad I've ever seen.
@ferretworld4031
@ferretworld4031 4 года назад
They are literally talking about the DISADVANTAGES of the shoes. Did you even watch the video?
@turborooster8548
@turborooster8548 4 года назад
@@ferretworld4031 No, they are saying the shoe is so good that people want to buy it. Are you stupid?
@ferretworld4031
@ferretworld4031 4 года назад
@@turborooster8548 yeah they "want to bad it", are YOU stupid?
@turborooster8548
@turborooster8548 4 года назад
@@ferretworld4031 When in the video did they ever say they "want to bad it"?
@ferretworld4031
@ferretworld4031 4 года назад
@@turborooster8548 No, that's what YOU said in your first comment! Might wanna go check that buddy.
@freya1348
@freya1348 3 года назад
It seems to me like the vaporflys would reduce the impact and injury lots of running has on your body so I think thats a good thing
@amandasmith7828
@amandasmith7828 2 года назад
If this was an issue of a private company having a proprietary shoe that only certain athletes have access to, then I could see the issue. However these are sold commercially, so I'm not understanding the controversy. Shoe technology will continue to change shoe design (lighter, better energy return), and as long as all runners have equal access to these shoes, then it's a non-issue.
@B00merBob
@B00merBob Год назад
Too bad for those sponsored by other shoe companies.
@LOZ8619
@LOZ8619 4 года назад
if they ban them I already see the new slogan: "illegally fast"
@Moocow2003
@Moocow2003 4 года назад
This is GREAT advertising for the shoes 😂
@yousefabdelmonem3788
@yousefabdelmonem3788 4 года назад
Watch cause your slogan might get stolen Illegally
@gulaugurgunnarsson6268
@gulaugurgunnarsson6268 4 года назад
@Random Autonomous Drone Pilot yes you can? Nike already has a patent on the "just do it" phrase
@Stopdahate994
@Stopdahate994 4 года назад
Random Autonomous Drone Pilot trade marking a phrase is a thing, look it up
@zacker150
@zacker150 4 года назад
@@Stopdahate994 that was literally his entire point "it's called trademark not patent"
@charlesheld3082
@charlesheld3082 4 года назад
"The need for a level playing field is exemplified." Then have them run barefoot.
@joshmedici
@joshmedici 4 года назад
Or make them all wear Vaporfly's.
@neophobia404
@neophobia404 4 года назад
but what if someone "injures" themselves and gets surgery on their feet that makes them more aerodynamic :^)
@topethermohenes7658
@topethermohenes7658 4 года назад
Have them all have the same coach, the same food, the same training 😂
@INikeAir
@INikeAir 4 года назад
You, my friend, are on to something
@awseko4732
@awseko4732 4 года назад
There will always be a ‘best’ shoe. Why does it matter? Its just that this shoe is easily noticeable
@timolsen8601
@timolsen8601 2 года назад
“Doing something to deliberately gain an unfair advantage” like wearing shoes rather than barefoot? Cool story
@kitlorenz6973
@kitlorenz6973 2 года назад
I always have problems/pains with the muscles in my feet/legs from running/workouts using fake shoes. I wonder how it feels wearing original shoes much more this performance enhancing shoes.
@Miss_Annlaug
@Miss_Annlaug 4 года назад
I'm sorry: but is a shoe is classified as "doping" then so is healthy diet and training. I mean honestly. This is rediculous
@sashaevin
@sashaevin 4 года назад
Ridiculous*
@topethermohenes7658
@topethermohenes7658 4 года назад
If they want pure person to person competition they should all receive the same training, the same food, the same coach, it's rediculous alright
@DrJRMCFC
@DrJRMCFC 4 года назад
Not it’s not.
@geyotepilkington2892
@geyotepilkington2892 4 года назад
no, its purpleous
@Kriophoros
@Kriophoros 4 года назад
To be fair, doping has been accessible to top level for a long time. If it aint broke, dont fix it /s
@MukulVermamukulverma
@MukulVermamukulverma 4 года назад
"we don't create any running shoes that return more energy than the runner expends" So... Nike shoes doesn't break the laws of thermodynamics . Good to know .
@averagejoe8226
@averagejoe8226 4 года назад
Mukul Verma Nike is referencing the rules of competitive running set but the global governing body. What they mean is that none of their shoes are designed to propel runners through alternative means e.g. springs or motors
@404nobrakes
@404nobrakes 4 года назад
Average Joe springs do not store or create energy either. They just return the energy that the runner expends. That being said, a) the carbon plate and the foam are effectively springs and b) this rule is not sufficient on its own because it doesn’t ban bicycles or roller skates. We really have to think about what makes running running and how much mechanical assistance we’re willing to accept
@averagejoe8226
@averagejoe8226 4 года назад
@@404nobrakes My opinion is that shoes =/= doping. Runners should be allowed to utilize technology as long as this technology is widely available and does not drastically change the sport or effect integrity
@xxcleverxxvhfsaw511
@xxcleverxxvhfsaw511 4 года назад
This is very true and if the shoe is available to everyone why ban it plus it would make running more competitive
@Ozzyisunavailable
@Ozzyisunavailable 4 года назад
@@404nobrakes if theyre allowed shoes at all then they should be allowed any shoes, however what is considered a shoe should also be more clearly defined
@bearnaked2128
@bearnaked2128 8 месяцев назад
If they want fairness among athletes, then there should be uniform shoes during the competition.
@joehill4094
@joehill4094 3 года назад
The ads are evolving
@mattcreighton2352
@mattcreighton2352 9 дней назад
innit
@oneeco
@oneeco 4 года назад
Imagine stopping innovation because a committee doesn't like better timing. Oh wait.
@cg1067
@cg1067 4 года назад
Lightbulb!
@lucifer9033
@lucifer9033 4 года назад
he cannot run anymore, that's his issue
@t_c5266
@t_c5266 4 года назад
What? Technology can make you go faster!? Time to allow bicycles and cars to improve times!
@Mikefeher1313
@Mikefeher1313 4 года назад
Stopping innovation? They’re just not allowing it in their sporting events ..
@nathanthom8176
@nathanthom8176 4 года назад
Except some countries track teams actually require sponsorships to fund them, so if your countries team isn't sponsored by Nike, you are automatically at a disadvantage. Also athletics are about what the human body can do, not what technology can make them do.
@steelfist43
@steelfist43 4 года назад
Nike finally accomplishes their goal of creating the ultimate running shoe Shoe gets banned
@daib5364
@daib5364 4 года назад
That's how you know the shoes good and that's how Nike knows they did a good job
@Benardk4
@Benardk4 4 года назад
Sad, just sad!
@Benardk4
@Benardk4 4 года назад
How about everyone uses the shoe and we see who wins?!
@ducanhtran1852
@ducanhtran1852 4 года назад
Benard Kadima then adidas and other sneakers company will be bankrupted.
@Fijilost
@Fijilost 4 года назад
Nike has gone through this before. It won’t last
@zacharyfindlay-maddox171
@zacharyfindlay-maddox171 9 месяцев назад
I'm 42, I love running and I started wearing the Vaporfly's because I don't feel as much pain and soreness the next day. I wish these shoes were around when I was younger, I think I would have prevented wear and tear on my body.
@DeBenedettiD
@DeBenedettiD Год назад
They left out the most important part. The VaporFlys carbon fiber plate within the midsole takes the shape of a rigid arc. When flattened in stride the plate wants to return to its original arc shape, that’s where the assistance(spring) is coming from.
@lesmalan
@lesmalan 4 года назад
"At Nike, we do not intend to build a shoe that return more energy than the runner expends. We have a strict policy to follow the laws of thermodynamics at Nike."
@DidAYoutubeBlackhole
@DidAYoutubeBlackhole 4 года назад
hahaha I was thinking exactly this, then was like unless they stuck some rockets on there or some sort of battery powered bounce haha
@sebastiangorka200
@sebastiangorka200 4 года назад
"We at Nike can say with 100% certainty that this shoe does not contain or came into any contact with the substance known as flubber."
@pfendi
@pfendi 4 года назад
Sebastian Gorka oh hey! A reference I get! Lol
@xavariusquest4603
@xavariusquest4603 4 года назад
I was wondering if anyone would catch that little gem. Though, they are being more than disingenuous because, based upon the structure shown, rather than protecting the foot and providing good contact with the road surface, this shoe reduces the energy required to accomplish motion...the shape and orientation of that carbon fiber plate isnt random. The effect of a faster time is created by the reduction in net energy required...you have more gas in the tank in the end. They have manufactured a shoe that no one else would because everyone else would correctly assume it could be banned. Personally, given Nikes business practices over the last 5 years...I suspect they hope it is banned for competitors because general consumer sales will explode.
@PolKsio
@PolKsio 4 года назад
hahah that's too funny, bet that was written by engineers having a big laugh
@simonmcneilly55
@simonmcneilly55 3 года назад
“ doesn’t return more energy than the runner expends “. Well thanks for not breaking the laws of physics at least.
@gangisspawn1
@gangisspawn1 3 года назад
Lol I thought the same thing.
@buckiesmalls
@buckiesmalls 3 года назад
Right.. By the logic one could jump to the moon after several hops..
@AR-no5ud
@AR-no5ud 3 года назад
I bet some materials scientist got a kick out of writing that to their boss.
@elliotdeclet594
@elliotdeclet594 3 года назад
its totally possible for a shoe to return more energy than expended using modern technology, the whole point of the statement is that they arent doing anything like that
@alicangul2603
@alicangul2603 3 года назад
@@elliotdeclet594 How would that work? Stationary asphalt doesn't generate energy. Where would the energy come from?
@willemm
@willemm 3 года назад
I use them as well, and not to improve my amazingly slow times, but because I think it's better for my knees, which were always hurting after a run in other shoes.
@misterjones7929
@misterjones7929 3 года назад
I agree - see my comment above. These shoes may take a few crucial seconds off the times of world class runners, but they also have the capability of reducing the chance of injury in ageing slow joggers like myself. Worth paying the premium price for in my opinion.
@johnhull2582
@johnhull2582 Год назад
Having flatfeet, I have asked more than one podiatrist if it was possible to get a carbon fiber or spring steel plate arch support that went the entire length of the foot. I see someone listened.
@Howlett9999
@Howlett9999 3 года назад
I never thought I would click an 8 minutes Nike ad by myself
@maheshjayakumar569
@maheshjayakumar569 3 года назад
That's what they want, and seeing the comments everyone fell for it.
@23sleng
@23sleng 3 года назад
Yeah lol people going in like this isn’t a commercial
@Qeengish
@Qeengish 3 года назад
I don’t even run and I want these shoes
@maheshjayakumar569
@maheshjayakumar569 3 года назад
Classic example of how smart people entrap the dumb ones
@Sneax673
@Sneax673 3 года назад
I was thinking this exact same thing a minute in lol
@patreekotime4578
@patreekotime4578 4 года назад
Why is the only solution of a "level playing field" to ban the superior shoes instead of mandate them? Especially if the design provides more comfort and reduces chance of injury?
@starlight5123
@starlight5123 4 года назад
Exactly its dumb
@92ireland92
@92ireland92 4 года назад
Dont even need to mandate them. Just make it an option available to all competitors
@LuLu-lh1hz
@LuLu-lh1hz 4 года назад
Ireland exactly!
@kikalcala
@kikalcala 4 года назад
My thoughts during the whole video.
@jacobschmidt1631
@jacobschmidt1631 4 года назад
Because some competitors can not afford some shoes if they are made very expensive. If Nike made a cheaper version, it wouldn’t be an issue
@locketpop3851
@locketpop3851 3 года назад
After this video...IM DEFINITELY GONNA BUY THEM Nike needs to thank you for the free advertisement
@danielyadgarov2344
@danielyadgarov2344 3 года назад
This seems a lot like the lzr racer from swimming (swimmer here) in that case all full body suits were banned for men allowing only jammers but material had no limits. So maybe in running you could make a general fit and layout of the shoe that all companies must ablige by but make materials a choice.
@itsv1p3r
@itsv1p3r 4 года назад
*man invents the first shoe* runners: this destroys the sport of running, running should only be done barefoot so it's an even playing field.
@maxwellmorrison1911
@maxwellmorrison1911 4 года назад
Exactly just the shoe of the sport evolving
@lokksiders__2151
@lokksiders__2151 4 года назад
You have different foot compared to mine. It's unfair.
@itsv1p3r
@itsv1p3r 4 года назад
LokKsiders__ you're simply a better athlete than me... UNFAIR
@gracefool
@gracefool 4 года назад
To be fair, this *was* the agreed upon position of the ancient Olympics. Barefoot is pure.
@NPCSN
@NPCSN 4 года назад
According to that guy... anything you do that will give you an advantage is cheating... Guess I shouldn’t go to the gym to get a conditioning and strength advantage... 🤷🏻‍♂️
@crafty2715
@crafty2715 4 года назад
They’re just shoes man it’s not a drug, it’s like banning leggings because they run better than pants
@jthepickle7
@jthepickle7 4 года назад
BAN LEGGING! oh oh time to stop commenting
@merivesi7021
@merivesi7021 4 года назад
But by that logic people could be running with springs strapped to their feet, even though that's not really fair either.
@hanphilnoffz8827
@hanphilnoffz8827 4 года назад
Or tight short short
@NeoRimeOnline
@NeoRimeOnline 4 года назад
Leggings are banned in swimming.
@king_has_no_clothskul8635
@king_has_no_clothskul8635 4 года назад
wrong. it gives unfair advantage. how do you expect ugandans,somalians and kenyians to shelve 400 dollars for the shoes? unless companies can sponsor not even govt can get the shoes. well, they dont rely on shoes. they beat all the mofos with bare-foot. marathons are run on man made asphalt, that is why you need some sort of quality shoes but not 400 or 250 plus dollar shoes. come on now!
@cpfarms8994
@cpfarms8994 3 года назад
Love kids making my shoes! Their little fingers stitch perfectly!!
@shubham4845
@shubham4845 2 года назад
😂 😂 😂 😂 Underrated comment
@brid5970
@brid5970 3 года назад
This is the same argument from the 2000 Sydney Olympics. Australian swimmers banned from bodysuit swimwear and the controversy of track runner Cathy Freeman’s running suit. It’s upgrades to materials and design and should be up to each team to innovate for themselves.
@normanpoole213
@normanpoole213 4 года назад
I don’t think we should ban them it’s like saying no to innovation
@stevenr3544
@stevenr3544 4 года назад
putting some carbon fibre into a shoe omG thAt Is So INnoVaTiVe
@manuelramos5701
@manuelramos5701 4 года назад
@@stevenr3544 then why didn't you do it 10 years ago and beat nike to the punch?
@DrJRMCFC
@DrJRMCFC 4 года назад
fine, but the world records can’t stand otherwise just let non Nike athletes blood dope
@doormantdarner7815
@doormantdarner7815 4 года назад
J R Just let adidas make as good a copy as they can of these shoes and then everyone is equal. Running shoes have innovated so much in the last 80 years. It’s a question of natural selection, adapt or die.
@ericramos1916
@ericramos1916 4 года назад
We should ban them. Running should be what the human can do. We can maximize training, get lightweight gear and get ultra flat ground to run on, but that is just restricting the human body as little as possible. These shoes add on to what a person can do, they go past the human body instead of getting as close as possible to just a person
@definitelynotcole
@definitelynotcole 3 года назад
I wouldn't be surprised that this whole "controversy" was manufactured by Nike's marketing team.
@raptorduck8785
@raptorduck8785 3 года назад
This is not the first time something like this happens. The Olympics Comite is stupid.
@hebson21
@hebson21 3 года назад
Remember, its all about the equipment, not the athlete. Goes the same for golf, cycling, and any other premium sport...
@seanwool
@seanwool 3 года назад
You're catching on.
@remipepelko9201
@remipepelko9201 3 года назад
@@hebson21 cycling is pretty even, at least in grand tours and other uci regulated races, mostly because of weight limits and lack of aero advancement significant within uci limits.
@AnnSisuLiv
@AnnSisuLiv 3 года назад
Bingo
@inscrutablemungus4143
@inscrutablemungus4143 6 дней назад
2:28 We don't want to normalize doping because it's terrible for the athlete. Going on steroids, for instance, comes with all sorts of side effects. If we had a substance that increased strength/muscle gain and was completely safe, every sporting body would allow it. Spolier alert: It exists and is called creatine. The vaporfly is just a really good running shoe. It doesn't hurt the athlete (AFAIK). There may be an argument that these shoes are expensive and so may price a runner out of the sport, but the comparison to doping is just dumb.
@ragetobe
@ragetobe 2 года назад
Strictly from an average runner who covers 5k runs at 4am before work everyday I can say the vapourfly and tempo next % are the best trainers I’ve ever worn, they make me feel safe from injury and confident in pushing myself. I don’t race anyone but myself and it won’t affect me if they get banned but I guess it will mean Nike don’t make trainers like them anymore which would be upsetting as I felt like I finally found the perfect trainers.
@s.2314
@s.2314 4 года назад
Give everyone vapor flys so everyone has the same "advantage". solved case
@santoshmoopanar6584
@santoshmoopanar6584 4 года назад
Athletes are sponsored by different companies they... Just can't wear any shoes
@rowanfitzgerald3250
@rowanfitzgerald3250 4 года назад
The thing not mentioned in this video is that they cost 250$ and not everyone can afford this :)
@worldwidewarriors8568
@worldwidewarriors8568 4 года назад
yes because $250 is not affordable for elite athletes that compete for money
@madil2259
@madil2259 4 года назад
Give? You mean give away new shoes for free?
@riripari2042
@riripari2042 4 года назад
@@rowanfitzgerald3250 Exactly. I looked them up immediately. Thought I'd try and buy a pair to help me on my next pt test. Not trying to break any records, just want an easier time while doing a 2 mile run.
@BladeMasterz916
@BladeMasterz916 4 года назад
Nobody has an advantage, because everybody is wearing them.
@anonymous1burger
@anonymous1burger 4 года назад
Capitalism: do things for utility's sake and natural competition will regulate it. Athletics: artificially create competition so that un-useful things can be retained.
@swng314
@swng314 4 года назад
Swimming becoming finswimming because everyone starts using flippers
@cyjan3k823
@cyjan3k823 4 года назад
People who are sponsored by adidas Just cant
@BladeMasterz916
@BladeMasterz916 4 года назад
@@cyjan3k823 sucks for them lol
@douglei897
@douglei897 4 года назад
@@swng314 . flippers slows you down when you do the kick turns and that's why nobody uses them.
@TheRealHaloLover
@TheRealHaloLover Год назад
I feel like they are made specifically for road running. I don't think they might even hinder you on trail runs with how much more nibble you have to be
@johnlinneman2779
@johnlinneman2779 2 года назад
Quality journalism right here. Their investigation included cutting the shoe open and finding foam...
@THESLlCK
@THESLlCK 3 года назад
The first time a shoe company delivers on its promises, it gets banned
@Minecraftmaster684
@Minecraftmaster684 3 года назад
This is correct, we probably won’t see innovation like this anymore because shoe companies don’t want their shoes banned
@THESLlCK
@THESLlCK 3 года назад
@@Minecraftmaster684 Or we just change the rulebooks. Then again, we'll probably end up with mechanical running shoes with full-on rebound springs like those sprint boots with spring feet
@SimonWoodburyForget
@SimonWoodburyForget 2 года назад
@@Minecraftmaster684 _Yeah right._ The entire goel of shoe companies is to get banned. The shoe that gets banned from the olympics will literally be advertised as being _too good_ which in turn causes people to buy more of them. The entire goal was to get banned.
@SomethingSeemsOff
@SomethingSeemsOff 2 года назад
The NBA has had to ban multiple shoes from the league due to significant unfair advantage/increased danger to player.
@timolsen8601
@timolsen8601 2 года назад
All basketball shoes increase danger to players as the narrow your base of support and increase stress on medial ligaments of the knee
@jonm3024
@jonm3024 3 года назад
Using this logic, i guess the only "fair" way to compete would be barefoot and naked?
@allisontallantmcculley1047
@allisontallantmcculley1047 3 года назад
Like the Greeks did it back in the ancient olympics
@warlordnipple
@warlordnipple 3 года назад
@@kalecardenas9645 Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue. www.ancient.eu/article/20/ancient-greek-clothing/#:~:text=The%20Greeks%20were%20not%20particularly,barefoot%20for%20his%20entire%20life. Greeks rarely wore shoes. If they did it was sandals or boots, which usually don't count as shoes.
@simoncarrington166
@simoncarrington166 3 года назад
I don't remember seeing any depictions of ancient Greeks wearing shoes... And I doubt they ran in sandals
@blairbuskirk5460
@blairbuskirk5460 3 года назад
@@kalecardenas9645 while the ancient Greeks did have clothing and sandals they weren't used in Olympic competition. Kind of like we have semiautomatic rifles but don't use them for biathlon competition.
@kalecardenas9645
@kalecardenas9645 3 года назад
@@warlordnipple they never had “shoes” but they did where foot wear
@ManOfSteel1
@ManOfSteel1 2 года назад
after recent Olympics this is trending news but wsj coverd this a year ago before the games started , good job!
@loulew07
@loulew07 2 года назад
Much like when I started triathlons back in 1985 , using a road bike , by 1987 Boone Lennon came out with the DH Handlbars and it changed the sport on the bike. By 1989 Greg Lemond used a better version them in the Tour De France. Bottom line its not how much $ you spend on the bike, its how much time . So with any piece of equipment we still have to train .
@kholilialif5515
@kholilialif5515 4 года назад
Item: Vaporfly (Legendary) Type: Shoes Attribute: +4% speed
@ProjectPsyche
@ProjectPsyche 4 года назад
That stats is quite low for a legendary item dont you think
@Theaverageazn247
@Theaverageazn247 4 года назад
@@ProjectPsyche devs are planning on removing it next patch. too OP
@dustinropp
@dustinropp 4 года назад
@@ProjectPsyche not if all other shoes have lower stats
@adrianblood652
@adrianblood652 4 года назад
Or they'll put out a f2p version and nerf it next season.....
@aqwalth1172
@aqwalth1172 4 года назад
Dev will nerf this shoes in the next update
@helpme4330
@helpme4330 4 года назад
This is like a teacher finding mistakes in your exam when you got a perfect score.
@w1z4rd9
@w1z4rd9 4 года назад
Lezz zz lol
@ashishsaimon6511
@ashishsaimon6511 4 года назад
By cheating
@Jamac007
@Jamac007 4 года назад
@@ashishsaimon6511 cheating and innovation are 2 deferent things
@88thBusStop
@88thBusStop 4 года назад
Jamac007 wearing any type of shoes by definition is cheating. Nature hardened your heals by design. All shoes should be banned.
@starrysock
@starrysock 4 года назад
@@Jamac007 bringing a calculator to the math test isn't "innovation" A math test is about your ability to do math, a marathon is about human endurance. Making it more than that turns it into a contest of how much we can artificially boost someone's skill, not who has the most skill.
@pbennetto
@pbennetto 2 года назад
Little bit 'thick' of the proponent to suggest that thickness be the benchmark. Superior compounds will not be restricted by thickness but by technological advancement.
@LukeKwan78
@LukeKwan78 2 года назад
I am a UPS driver and I walk somewhere between 20 to 33,000 steps a day. 40-65 miles a week. I have spent so much money on vaporflys bc my feet never hurt anymore since using them exclusively
@sayakgupta3068
@sayakgupta3068 3 года назад
Solution: 1. Make people run barefooted. 2. Make every athlete wear Nike vaporfly.
@Commentoidiota
@Commentoidiota 3 года назад
3. Regulate the equipment like every other sport, so companies can still make improvements without taking away the achievements of the athletes
@AmanRai-rq3eg
@AmanRai-rq3eg 3 года назад
There are 2 problems here: 1. Barefooting obviously doesn't work as it would be damaging to the athletes' feet in the long term 2. Athletes are sponsored by exclusive companies like Puma and Adidas, so they can't wear the Vaporfly now even if they want to (otherwise they lose the sponsorship money). If the Vaporfly is made compulsory it effectively puts all companies out of competition, and gives a huge unfair business advantage to Nike. It basically stifles further innovation in running shoe field as there would be no incentive for Nike to improve
@kirisei6632
@kirisei6632 3 года назад
@@AmanRai-rq3eg they chose the wrong lousy sponsorship company.😂 Losers are just trash at whatever they are competing. If they are really talented, NIKE will approach them automatically for a sponsorship. So we know the whining people are the real salty LOSER blaming everything and everyone but themselves.
@SugarKalamay
@SugarKalamay 3 года назад
@@AmanRai-rq3eg you must be fun at parties mr. explanation
@AmanRai-rq3eg
@AmanRai-rq3eg 3 года назад
@@SugarKalamay If only we had parties now :P
@ethanluong3549
@ethanluong3549 4 года назад
Nike: Innovates and breaks a barrier in running thought to be near impossible Committee: BANNED Nike: WHY Committee: The design threatens the integrity of the sport and is basically cheating Nike: We used a thin carbon fibre plate not a jet engine
@question_mark_1971
@question_mark_1971 4 года назад
They might as well make them run with just socks on or even barefoot
@inasaldinuguan785
@inasaldinuguan785 4 года назад
Sprinter's have spikes on their shoes but no one complained🤔
@inasaldinuguan785
@inasaldinuguan785 4 года назад
In the video it said that "These shoes give runners an unfair advantage" well spike shoes give sprinters an advantage and now everyone uses them in track
@MiniNinja258
@MiniNinja258 4 года назад
You Don't know me so everyone should use vaporflys lol
@j.s.3414
@j.s.3414 4 года назад
They didn't innovate anything...this entire design has been made for years by other companies. Placing a shank, and the sole design are in quite a few ultra marathon shoes.
@alexlw8888
@alexlw8888 3 года назад
everyone has already been doing this with all the recent innovations in footwear. By this logic, everyone should be made to wear the same shoe(also a bad idea because naturally, athletes will have different anatomical requirements). Or, competing brands will have to adapt their technology.
@samw6457
@samw6457 Год назад
Feels like pure Nike marketing. Sponsor the best runners that would’ve won anyway and then blame the shoes and create controversy around how good they are by partnering with media like wsj. I just want these shoes more than ever now.
@kenanbegic5862
@kenanbegic5862 4 года назад
When you're so good they call you a cheater. Adorable.
@user-gl1ny5hz8y
@user-gl1ny5hz8y 4 года назад
Alborn Messchussets fr
@genki2705
@genki2705 4 года назад
you didn't watch the video.
@kenanbegic5862
@kenanbegic5862 4 года назад
@@genki2705 but............ I did
@tmuto5119
@tmuto5119 4 года назад
@@kenanbegic5862 bc its not the person thats good. Obvs they are but the shoes give them a big advantage
@kenanbegic5862
@kenanbegic5862 4 года назад
@@tmuto5119 But... if you were to run in normal street shoes vs. any running shoe, the running shoe has an advantage. At the end the runner literally said it's nicer to run in Nike ones because they're comfier, so they should be banned?
@ludo3375
@ludo3375 3 года назад
Engineering a shoe so well that wearing it is considered cheating. Incredible. That's an amazing feat
@footyhub3259
@footyhub3259 3 года назад
Props to Nike.
@willhooke
@willhooke 3 года назад
*amazing feet
@hanklesacks
@hanklesacks 3 года назад
Great ad as well
@BrielleHater1224
@BrielleHater1224 3 года назад
@Eduardo Babyhands I would say that that is the case but so much data says differently. Like the general increase in fast times from these hyper shoes, and the VO2 max testing done on individual athletes in and out of the vapormax.
@sneerbums2528
@sneerbums2528 3 года назад
Nike Stonks 📈📈
@somethingstupid3253
@somethingstupid3253 2 года назад
3:14 His argument here is similar to from my understanding if I pulled up to a cross country meet wearing spikes where everyone else is wearing shoes, by his argument my spikes should not be allowed because they give me an advantage, but spikes aren’t banned from xc because some runners still wear shoes.
@technologygamers9505
@technologygamers9505 Год назад
someone tell me how can i order this shoe PlZ🙏
@rydohg
@rydohg 4 года назад
This is the greatest Nike ad I've seen. Running shoes so good they might get banned? Deal me in
@Turbo329
@Turbo329 4 года назад
Yup, gonna order mine. Lol. I have plantar fasciitis so this is an incredible breakthrough for us flat-footers. hahahahahahhaha
@SmallHalfBeard
@SmallHalfBeard 4 года назад
Nike has been doing stuff like this for years. Same thing with the "Banned" Air Jordan 1 and Airship
@willyjaybobindy3402
@willyjaybobindy3402 4 года назад
Exactly how Jordans became known, right? MJ wasn’t supposed to wear them due to a ban and did anyway...boom. A legendary shoe is born.
@rubeluddin87
@rubeluddin87 4 года назад
I already own 2 pairs will order another next month. A bit expensive tho at £250 a pop but it’s worth it
@jordachejordan90
@jordachejordan90 4 года назад
Ur right. When something is banned it adds more to the shoe's prestige. Nike is still making money off the Air Jordan 1 being 'banned.'
@samiammunoz6854
@samiammunoz6854 4 года назад
changing the physiology of your body and wearing very well designed shoes are completely different things
@saroche
@saroche 4 года назад
Yeah, you’re cheating in both though.
@Drae2g2
@Drae2g2 4 года назад
Cheating like taking steroids to make you stronger and faster. It's just a freaking innovative shoe!!
@taekwondotime
@taekwondotime 4 года назад
True but it's still cheating. All that will happen is we'll see EVERY runner switch to this brand of shoes (or we'll see one particular brand of shoes mandated for all runners), and that will remove the competitive advantage. That's the only way to maintain a level playing field.
@weyjei3709
@weyjei3709 4 года назад
Then what about the hardwork and innovation done by nike, isn't it unfair for them
@nrc91
@nrc91 4 года назад
How is it cheating when all companies have the opportunity to make a better shoe 🤨
@Phosfit
@Phosfit Год назад
7:40 This test has someone run a mile with one product on then follow up with another product and run another mile. Problem: the flawed test.
@gabemoore8119
@gabemoore8119 9 месяцев назад
If they are really providing an advantage but any of the runners are allowed to purchase and use them than its not really an advantage in competition. Just an improvement for the physical stresses that running carries. Maybe other shoe manufacturers should try to compete rather than work in the shadows to ban a competing manufacturer that has the jump on them.
@inoita11
@inoita11 4 года назад
I'm gonna run the Boston Marathon in steel toe boots, anyone that wears anything better than those I will consider cheaters.
@user-ii3kn8zz1k
@user-ii3kn8zz1k 4 года назад
you nailed it, it doesn't really make sence. Shoes are always getting better
@gabrielduarte3904
@gabrielduarte3904 4 года назад
@@user-ii3kn8zz1k yes, but no.. because he would be putting himself willingly in disadvantage
@necromancerbb
@necromancerbb 4 года назад
@@gabrielduarte3904 the point stands then... anyone NOT using the vapourfly's would be putting themselves at a distinct disadvantage. Precisely as inoita11 said.
@pottasium7117
@pottasium7117 4 года назад
nobody: caveman boomer be like: "you use shoe, i barefoot. You CHEAT!!"
@SpiderDibs
@SpiderDibs 4 года назад
Solution! It's required for _everyone_ to wear them! Boom chakalaka
@teddytatyo
@teddytatyo 4 года назад
*MAN THE INSANE FREE ADVERTISEMENT THT NIKE GETS, ITS SO EFFECTIVE TO THE POINT EVERYONE WANTS A PAIR OF VAPORFLYS.*
@wanabie
@wanabie 4 года назад
teddy tatyo I don't even run and I want a pair
@impacttrauma8696
@impacttrauma8696 4 года назад
teddy tatyo, I immediately went to Amazon to see how much a pair cost! 😄
@SaMiChi
@SaMiChi 4 года назад
This video seriously had no substance. I was looking for breakdown of the technology, but got nothing. They showed labs, and testing, and then it ends. I can't take it as anything other than just an 8 minute ad.
@connorburnand5865
@connorburnand5865 4 года назад
this isnt free lol
@frdyn8tr
@frdyn8tr 4 года назад
There is no way Nike got this much attention for free. I think some geniuses in Nikes marketing department pushed this hole "controversy" to this scale, maybe even started it in the first place.
@nichole8609
@nichole8609 2 года назад
I'm not a runner so my statement is purely opinion. I'm wondering if the shoe removes the actual stress away from the leg hitting a hard surface & this continues to provide the runner with more energy which also removes any mental thought or stress that the runner may have about discomfort or pain from running which also removes any mental thought and/or stress about the leg discomfort which then gives the runner more mental space to focus their energy on running. Kinda like if a weight lifter was able to remove any physical discomfort of lifting but still having to do the work of lifting the weights..or did I just describe steriods..?😒
@richardgentry5589
@richardgentry5589 2 года назад
We basically just watched a 8min Nike ad.
@Alertacobra12
@Alertacobra12 4 года назад
"Shoes so good they're banned in competitive running" - Nike 2020
@johncapodilupo6876
@johncapodilupo6876 4 года назад
Alertacobra 12 copied
@neixen-
@neixen- 4 года назад
Yeah they need to be banned because they are good for the athletes that are sponsored by Nike, but what about the athletes that aren't sponsored by Nike???? To everyone saying that this is "stupid", I really wanna hear your super effective ideas to solve the problem.
@RMBII91
@RMBII91 4 года назад
"Comments so good I copy them from other people for likes" - Alertacobra 12
@RoyontheHill
@RoyontheHill 4 года назад
@@neixen- other companys make there own sci fi shoes so there athletes have a better chance
@thiyagarajans9014
@thiyagarajans9014 4 года назад
@@neixen- do u watch F1. Do all teams have same engine manufacturers. Let's c Mercedes keeps on winning ban them. It's upto ferrari or the competitors to bring something unique on their own. Or take cricket do all batsman have bats made of similar material
@tacomanbob1233
@tacomanbob1233 4 года назад
Imagine if people did this back in the 1930s when Jesse Owens won the gold in his spiked adidas shoes, some of the first of their kind, it’s almost like technology evolves over time to improve the sport
@Twkout
@Twkout 4 года назад
@Fun Builder yeah nah
@mythowrose2742
@mythowrose2742 4 года назад
Fun Builder are you high
@rob541n7
@rob541n7 4 года назад
Yeah, if want a total "fair", runner shouldnt wear any shoes
@MrSF247
@MrSF247 4 года назад
@Mike J There's a Ted Talk by David Epstein called "Are athletes realling getting faster, better, stronger?" regarding this phenomenon and how records being broken pretty much all correlated with technological advancements either in the gear worn or used or the terrain (such as how track material changed). With adjustments for track material improvements, Usain Bolt's WR 100 meter time would've only beaten Jesse Owens' by perhaps a few 100ths of a second. And rather than athletes competing in any sport, they tend to "specialize" and move into sports where they have the biggest advantage. For instances, basketball players being tall, shotput throwers being large, and gymnasts being shorter and more compact. It's a great talk. I recommend checking it out.
@jaggeriscoughmedicine
@jaggeriscoughmedicine 4 года назад
And steroid too. And drugs to hide usage of steroids
@supKEVEN
@supKEVEN 2 года назад
Dude looked so comfortable running in the vaporflys
@Ken-yp1dg
@Ken-yp1dg 3 года назад
Interesting...in 100 meter running apparently it’s the psi applied to the surface that transmits to speed. I suspect in long distance running it’s not the cushion that aids the runner but the spring of the fiber insert.
@onidevogel6597
@onidevogel6597 4 года назад
Imagine designing such a good shoe they say it's cheating
@KongsiILmu-dh5yj
@KongsiILmu-dh5yj 4 года назад
God be like; *W H Y*
@DeluxxMuin
@DeluxxMuin 4 года назад
The same thing happened to the vehicle: Dodge Demon. It was so fast that it was banned in most drag strips and tracks, but it's also a production car you can get right off the lot
@DeluxxMuin
@DeluxxMuin 4 года назад
@@GigglyDucky thanks for the info!! I only vaguely remembered the video
@ahastar1141
@ahastar1141 4 года назад
The single best marketing ever
@chimera-san
@chimera-san 3 года назад
0:31 "with the Tokyo Olympics this summer" He doesn't know what's coming XD
@Ainzel_Klien
@Ainzel_Klien 3 года назад
China needed time to train for a few more months.
@blartslimpson8967
@blartslimpson8967 3 года назад
Roconacirus
@afkninjachickenwithfries4102
@afkninjachickenwithfries4102 3 года назад
@@TreyyDaMenaceFan There were 34,200 deaths of the flu in 2019, you know how many covid deaths there were 2.45 million. Not only that but covid is an unknown, scientists have barely developed a vaccine. But of course you but think vaccines are fake too.
@silic8873
@silic8873 3 года назад
@@TreyyDaMenaceFan It can reduce the chance of getting C19 though even if it doesn't completely get rid of it, since there are multiple variations
@dhonnano7417
@dhonnano7417 3 года назад
Don't waste your guys time
@randymagnum6680
@randymagnum6680 3 года назад
Lol I got an Under Armour ad during this video, which itself is a Nike ad.
@ranjan_v
@ranjan_v 2 года назад
What if its some kind of itelligent ad for nike
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