The Cost of Building a 78 Series Troopy: A LOT - See How Much We've Spent So Far! 

Cheers mate

Yep honestly it can be done either way :) We had a amazing time in the old Hilux and that was budget as you can get.

Yeah it’s a lot of money for sure. It felt odd explaining to the camera that $140k is reasonable 😅 but for something that’s new, that capable, comfortable and quick setup it’s pretty good compared to other new setups.

Dont married..just stay single...you good to go...once youve done all the mod and drop 200k on upgrade,then you married 😂🤘🏻

The things available for them these days is amazing.

I have similar sentiments. IMO, once a channel is sponsored by a brand, the recipient(s) will find it hard to talk negatively about the sponsor's product(s). And 100% impartiality goes out the window. I also frequently hear from RU-vidrs that the brands they are sponsored by are brands they really like, and thus why they (brands) were asked to be involved in their channel. Then giving this very reason as the justification why they (recipients) always provide positive reviews about their sponsor's products. What would be interesting to know, for a full disclosure by the channel, is if they've asked other brands first to sponsor them before the brand, they eventually end up working with did. For instance, was Falken their first choice for tyres? Or did they ask other tyre brands first, but those brands declined? Anyway, good work on them in finding sponsors.

Hey mate great comment and something I have personally thought about, "What would we be putting on if we didn't have these opportunities?". You mentioned a finite budget, if that was the case then we certainly wouldn't be putting all this gear on, we would stick to the budget. But if we were in a position to do it then absolutely we would. In the case of the seats if I was building an old 1HZ troopy I would definitely find 3K for at least the drivers seat. It all comes down to a "what if" situation, what if we didn't have the channel? Who knows we might have had more time to put into our business and we could be better off. It actually could be a really cool video to do, have a range of builds from 20k, 50K, 100K, 150K and 200K and go through what I would get and put on it. Also I defiantly have a bias for the gear thats on the car, but hopefully by telling people what we have got and what we haven't they can cross reference information from other sources and make informed decisions. Defiantly say hello if we see you on the Canning! cheers

And this is the cheap one haha

A free troopy is certainly a good price! Good on you :) you could probably go anywhere we can!

@@OverlandTravellers thanks mate.. would like to do a trip with u both one day 👍

Thats right. We would have easily sunk 8+ grand into the old one on the road in repairs

Thanks for that! Looks like you have a high top troopy yourself in the profile picture?

Much appreciated!

We weighed the car stock as a rock so ill be able to tell you the difference once its done.

When adjusted for inflation, a lot of the classic 4wds weren't that cheap on release either.

Much appreciated. If it helps people make an informed decision then that's great. a 30K troopy setup would go the same places I reckon, but the new stuff is just really nice to have.

Good luck with it mate its great fun :)

One of the main reason for doing it was for people like yourself. Cheers mate

Sure, but no GVM upgrade available for it, very few aftermarket accessories including no long range tank options. Like most euro cars you have to be happy with it as they supply in from factory, not much scope for customising it to specific needs

Not surprising they are outsourcing as much manufacturing as possible like the engine etc. Im sure they are really good seats, certainly better than the stock 70 seats but I doubt they would be at the same level as the Recaros you pay for aftermarket.

@@user-rv6zk1pp7r agree in terms of the range, but fingers cross an aftermarket solution comes about. IG's factory GVM is already 3550kg. I'm sure there will be upgrades available once the vehicle hits the road.

One day I would like a long range tank for 270L but the 180L is pretty good for now.

Yep its definitely an expensive exorcise but one thats worth it for the good times it provides! cheers mate

Cheers mate!

Thats a good way to put it :)

No worries glad it helped, it was the main reason for doing it.

How much time did you get quoted for delivery

@@TheSukhbirgrewal 8-12 months, ended up taking 15

No problem 👍

Yeah we are so excited to use it properly! We are changing the head unit but not the speakers for now, that being said when the head unit is going in I might grab a few speakers to throw in. Good sound is nice for the long drives. Nav will be our iPad Pro with hema :)

@@OverlandTravellers that's what I use for navigation too. A tablet with the Hemma app. Their latest update to the app is horrible to use though. Unstable and keeps on crashing (as far i can tell they changed it without notice and I ended up losing all of my old way points and tracks). I only found all this out 2 days before my last big trip four months ago.

Yeah it puts a smile on my dial every time

Noice 👌👍😁😎

You bet!

Overdone? We're just getting started

Hey there! If it helps…My partner and I ordered a brand new troopy in March 2022 with a $1000 AUD deposit and picked it up August 2022 and paid the balance that day via bank transfer to the dealer (we arranged finance through our bank prior). We got lucky with a small wait time - others we know are still waiting for theirs! 18 months +, the troopy is well worth the weight though

@@alllozzyadventures awesome!! Thanks for the info. I’ve been kicking around the idea of Going with an Ineos Grenadier, they’re being delivered to customers in Australia now, with a 9-10 month lead time, and many custom features. Hope to see you out there! Mahalo! 🤙

Glad it was helpful!

Glad the video will be helpful!

Cheers mate! You’ve got a nice shorty in your profile pic! Yeah well I suppose if people know what I have got and what I bought then they can get other opinions to see if what I’m saying matches up.

@Overland Travellers haha yeah that's my baby! It's a BJ42 LX. I was lucky and got it before the prices went completely psycho. You guys are doing a great job. It blows my mind how my time and effort it must take to film and edit those videos. Looks like it's starting to pay off. Have a good one mate!

Just remember if it makes you happy it doesn't need to make sense to other people. Its crazy how many people care about how you spend your hard earned.

Yeah they have definitely gone up since we ordered ours.... glad we did when we did :)

Thats right, we still need to live with it and use it. We just changed our minds on an accessory the other day because we weren't happy with the first one that was free and opted to pay for something we wanted.

It was actually just under 13k, which included not just the track correction, but the full terrain tamer GVM kit with parabolics, coils, shocks, steering dampener, sway bar, bushes and everything else for the kit. That was also covering delivery and labor to install, and engineering….. The track correction is about 5k installed…

@@OverlandTravellers thanks for the reply.. still 5k for something that should have been factory corrected.. I would go a step further and say a recall was in order but why would they people keep paying top dollar for them for 20 years.. a Y62 take out all rear seats cheaper far better engineering. The fuel is a moot point you have to own your Toyota fir at least 11 years to make up the price difference at an average of 20klm per year.. plus V8 Petrol... there's no comparison to be made. The money spent on that could have bought a used Y62 and caravan for the 140k you mentioned... series 4 Y62 190klm 45k on carsales today dropped from 55K.. 95k would buy a great offroad van great lithium set-up.. mark my words wait 3-6 months it's going to get cheaper.. save wait save then pounce

Watch the market I've been watching the Y62 dream car I grew up V8 Petrol cars mum n dad, burnouts etc.. the Y62 went way above true value last couple of months are now asking what they were worth brand new.. check it out.. then get an comprehensive insurance quote.. nowhere near current asking prices. Another reason I'll wait if it gets written off I'll lose.. Anyway I don't mean to put you down I really hope you enjoy your travels safely... I'm so close to getting my dream car.. good on you guys for doing it I'm 46 n wasted my life working n renting in Sydney... it's a shithole I'm envious of you please take my criticism as constructive/ my opinion

@@brettleonard8602 A Y62 and a caravan would be a very comfortable setup and I think they’re great cars. But towing has its own limitations, you can’t do things like the canning, Simpson or old tele, you could if you unhitch the van but your back to just a wagon which is hard to make a touring setup that would be as comfortable and as easy as the troopy which you can get inside of. Also a second hand car with a few kms has some things to consider. Honestly they are two completely different setups for different use cases. The troopy although it has lots of things that are just downright silly ie track correction and it’s pricey for what you’re getting, they ticked the most boxes for us.

@@OverlandTravellers all valid points mate as I said each ti their own. A caravan is down the road and being single an 18ft would be luxury living. I have a 5.3 meter forward steer aluminium boat I intend on towing around the top end QLD round to WA before I get to old. I'm single so weight will be no issue boat's a tonne on trailer so I can load that puppy up aswell and just upgrade the trailer weights.. good on you guys for getting YOUR ultimate set-up 👍

Haha the old farty luxy 😆 such a good little ute. Good on you mate can't go wrong with the BT50's. Good luck with it!

Cheers guys!

Glad it was helpful!

Yes we defiantly have a bias for the gear on our car, mainly because I cant really comment on something I don't have. That being said there defiantly is an element of "they helped me ill help them", that doesn't mean I straight up lie to people. But yes by telling people what we have got sponsored they can then make a more informed decision and correlate information about said product with other sources. I have always been very vocal about the weight of our RTT and its limitations. There is a lot that goes on behind the scenes. Just the other day we decided to change out mind on an accessory that we got for free and opted to pay for one instead at about a 2K cost to us. We also turned down about 15K worth or]f gear and paid for the majority of the stuff we actually wanted. As I said in the video we genuinely want to give good advice to the people we owe all this to. Cheers for watching and commenting as always mate.

I agree the tyres aren't too sensible for touring, but they look so good 😆

Thanks 👍

Yep we forgot to change that haha.

Actually…… we still did all those things. We just need a bit of past tense and an update.

We are definitely very lucky! Thanks for watching.

I think they'd be the number 1 selling car in Aus if they were 40k haha

Cheers mate!

From bushwrapz?

Yep we will definitely weigh the vehicle once its done

To be honest I wouldn't recommend the larger tyres unless you love the look (which I do) We have upgraded the brakes that will be in the next video :) I think 33's or even slightly smaller would be the way to go.

Glad it was helpful!

Thanks 👍

Yeah its something we will look into

@@OverlandTravellers in the meantime just put the transfer case in neutral… chances are the average juvenile criminal wouldn’t understand it and it may buy some time.

Hey mate yeah that was our plenty Highway episode. Definitely a good thing to do. Cheap insurance for an expensive issue

Cancel that - I just found your Axle/GVM upgrade RU-vid, and that you got all the work done up in Sydney...

When we first got it it was like a Rolls Royce compared to the old one. But now that I am used to it I will be putting a little bit of sound deadening in the doors and front just to help a bit.

At the end of the day it's completely up to you. For myself personally I wouldn't tune a Prado as those engines are quite highly strung from factory, where as the VDJ can be tuned quite safely to a point. I am personally not too concerned, if something happens so be it.... But my warranty was on the rocks long before the tune with all the other mods.

Yeah we are pretty lucky to have a money factory! Sounds like a pretty good setup to me, defiantly better and more capable than our first setup in the old Lux.

Hey your car would have more features from factory and would go anywhere we would, actually I wouldn’t be surprised if it was more capable Offroad.

@@OverlandTravellers probably right about features but maybe not offroad capability i have no lockers maybe 1 day 👌

That sounds pretty good to me as well.

Well don't discredit them just yet, I think you'll find the videos the exact same as always, just in a different bucket of bolts.

I have sat in a lot of different seats and know people who have swapped other aftermarket seats for the scheelmann. But yep I got them for free as I said so take my word for it as you will, I told you so you can make more informed decisions about your purchases. I suggest finding other people who have scheelmann’s and ask about their experience as I am really confident they’ll say the same thing. If it looks like a promotion for the seats, that’s because it is.

@@OverlandTravellers I have the seats, and as I said, quality issue. I can send photos if you’d like but I assume for paid promo I’d be wasting my time. My issue with ScheelMann has been quality, less than zero customer service, then the definition of abusive. For the money you don’t get an install either. And so you’d think it’s sorted considering? I didn’t even get instructions, and when I did they are lacking in the info needed, didn’t even get enough mounting hardware. Seat still isn’t level I suspect. Counting the 10s of hours and faulty seats, and $400 in postage you pay for a problem, im just putting it out there for others …. … in the fj40 it was a paid promo? Compared to recaro and others who have dealer network and support, they are way too $$ for total lack of support. It’s not the best solution for people. It’s actually the worst. Solid seat and supportive - 100% Defiantly not suitable for a 76 I love my SC so much I haven’t installed my 2nd one sitting in the garage in the past 18 months. I only wondered if you’d lived with others to state what you did. Which it seems not. It’s misleading and dishonest. Happy travels in RU-vid.

About 12L per hundred. Can go down to 10 but on the tracks up to 20L. About the same as stock. Less considering the weight

Thanks mate!

We have a business completely independent of our RU-vid channel.

That setup would definitely be more comfortable, but towing has a lot of limitations with where you can go. You couldn’t do the Simpson, canning or old tele, or lots of smaller 4WD tracks. I love the prados and the idea of towing one day but I think the troopys tick a lot of boxes for 2 people wanting to do really remote stuff

Hey mate I will double check. That is including install and freight as well.

I'll check up on that mate because I would like to get it right. I think I might have been a few grand too much. Do you have the exact same kit?

35k so far, parabolic leaves and tracks corrected 👍

Great question! The brakes have already been done and filmed and will be the next episode. We went with the Bendix kit :)

We have a pretty good idea why we want one. We aren't really interested in rock crawling so yes we don't go on crazy tracks. The jibber jabber was necessary to explain everything

damn it

Cheers mate ill look into it!

Yep it adds up quickly but its great fun and a lifestyle choice :)

@@OverlandTravellers I understand dude, I have been doing this for many years, in fact my first vehicle was a new Elsie, I’ve fitted out a 75, 78,79 and a 78. I towed an off-road van behind the 79 for 7 years full time and had a new 78 ordered but let it go because I was so unwell & figured it would be better to let someone else, younger take it than leave it parked up in my shed while I’m having surgery after surgery. Now I’m starting to regret that decision- bloody Toyota 🤨

Yep I think it will end up being more than initial estimate. I will do an update once it's done. Also the prices were in full. Also on your point of "gifts and free labour" there is no such thing as free :)

Yep

Oh well fast forward it if you dont like it.. Matt and Holly are giving their best and deliver as usual😊

Matt I’ve seen other YT overlanders cop flak about build cost, but it’s reasonable if that’s your thing. Look at the cost of a good horse float, it’s $30-50k sans horse & all other bits you need, an off road racing buggy is $150k if you want to be competitive, a wake setter ski boat is $250k as examples. If people want to pursue their hobbies & spend their coin on it good on them. I priced up both a V6 Ranger & a 300 series LC with GVM upgrades & the same touring spec as our 76 series and they both work out to be $140k (and neither of them are top spec models). The good old days when you could buy a brand new troopy for $40k new are just that, the good old days

Its honestly amazing the range in gear and price you can go with these things.