The CRAZIEST BROADCAST CONTROVERSY in Monday Night Football HISTORY | Steelers @ Jaguars (1997)

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In a 1997 Monday Night Football game between the Pittsburgh Steelers and Jacksonville Jaguars, when people turned off their TVs and woke up the next morning, they realized that the final score of the game was not the same score that they remembered the game being. The reason? ABC did not show the ending of the game, and switched to local news before the Jaguars/Steelers game officially ended. This is the story behind the bizarre controversy
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Members of the 1997 Jaguars:
Mike Hollis
Bryan Barker
Mark Brunell
Rob Johnson
Steve Matthews
Natrone Means
Aaron Beasley
Bucky Brooks
Randy Jordan
Curtis Anderson
Kevin Devine
Deon Figures
Dana Hall
Ricky Parker
Daimon Shelton
Mike Logan
James Stewart
Chris Hudson
Chris Parker
Dave Thomas
Travis Davis
Ty Hallock
Eddie Robinson
Kevin Hardy
Brant Boyer
James Hamilton
Jeff Lageman
Jeff Kopp
Bryan Schwartz
Ben Coleman
Michael Cheever
John Jurkovic
Jeff Novak
Tony Boselli
Leon Searcy
Brian DeMarco
Rick Tylski
Todd Fordham
Dave Widell
Willie Jackson
Will Moore
Jimmy Smith
Pete Mitchell
Reggie Barlow
Rich Griffith
Derek Brown
Keenan McCardell
Damon Jones
Tony Brackens
Seth Payne
Don Davey
Esera Tyaolo
Kelvin Pritchett
Jose White
Clyde Simmons
Renaldo Wynn
Jabbar Threats
Joel Smeenge
Tom Coughlin (head coach)
Members of the 1997 Steelers:
Josh Miller
Norm Johnson
Kordell Stewart
Mike Quinn
Curtis Marsh
Mike Tomczak
Andre Coleman
Donnell Woolford
Chris Oldham
Fred McAfee
JB Brown
Randy Fuller
Chad Scott
Tim Lester
Jerome Bettis
Carnell Lake
Jon Witman
Darren Perry
Myron Bell
Lee Flowers
George Jones
Troy Sadowski
Earl Holmes
Carlos Emmons
Steve Conley
Donta Jones
Jerry Olsavsky
Tom Myslinski
Dermontti Dawson
John Jackson
Jim Sweeney
Jamain Stephens
Brendan Stai
Orpheus Roye
Justin Strzelczyk
Nolan Harrison
Kelvin Henry
Will Wolford
Paul Wiggins
Charles Johnson
Yancey Thigpen
Corey Holliday
Kirk Botkin
Mitch Lyons
Mike Adams
Mark Bruener
Courtney Hawkins
Will Blackwell
Jason Gildon
Joel Steed
Greg Lloyd
Mike Vrabel
Rod Manuel
Oliver Gibson
Levon Kirkland
Bill Cowher (head coach)

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@ThreePointOneFou 2 года назад

Option 1: Go back and show the PAT. Option 2: Split-screen the PAT. Option 3: Don't show the PAT. Option 4: Tape the PAT and alert all the network affiliates that there is an additional bit of game footage they have to air. Then, after the local news has ended, show the PAT on tape delay.

@robbk3021 2 года назад

You need to look for openings as head sports director at a major network ASAP...seriously!

@MrSchimpf 2 года назад

The problem with option 2 besides what was noted is that there were (and still are) some ABC stations without news (most infamously KDNL in St. Louis, though they did at the time), and their ability to show a split-screen may have been limited because they really didn't have the ability to show a split-screen, much less a ticker. And if they did, often it was only for a weather event, AND with the loud tone that indicates a weather warning. So some of these stations didn't have the ability to split-screen. So in that case, you either have to load a 'Jacksonville just came back to kick the Point After Touchdown under the rules of the NFL, the final score was 30-21'...and you might have to awkwardly load that into the weather or snow closing ticker, and get 'why did you use a weather warning to update the score?!' complaints. Plus at around that time, the weather segment usually occurs in the local news 15 minutes in. You tell your weatherman 'we gotta stop 'cause ABC needs to show this PAT' and you're getting an FCC fine from the meteorologist cursing you out on-air for bad programming judgement. 😂 Along with viewers on the non-news ABC station whose syndicated sitcom was interrupted for a PAT. Finally for option #1...that network switch calling the entire network back to the network feed could not have been used in that situation. You get enough angry people calling ABC stations when their soaps get interrupted for a political or breaking news story. For a PAT kick, though? The master control operator is looking at that notice to go back to the network and outside Jacksonville and Pittsburgh, laughing it off and ignoring the signal. And if I'm not mistaken, the ABC affiliate in Jacksonville (which had only been launched a year before) was absolutely a non-factor to viewers outside ABC programming (they became owned by the NBC affiliate two years later and killed what little of their news department had come online), so they tuned out of their newscast immediately because those viewers just didn't have any trust in a very new news operation. Even if WJXX had gotten notice the PAT was kicked later during their post-game coverage and those few viewers went to bed knowing the correct score, most of their audience had already gone to bed or were onto Leno or Letterman on the higher-rated NBC and CBS stations, and those stations figured a note during the morning news would suffice over a ticker announcement since the point didn't cost the Jaguars the game.

@augustuscaesar9995 2 года назад

Option 4 would have been perfect. After the news, all of the affiliates would have returned to network programming anyway (Nightline on the East Coast, other network programming out West). ABC could have easily did this

@jasonfischer8946 2 года назад

I was saying the EXACT same thing. It seems so obvious.

@MrSchimpf 2 года назад

@@augustuscaesar9995 This makes so much more sense; even if Nightline was delayed, every ABC station has to carry it, and it would've made for a fun 'kicker' to the end or start of Nightline. Surprised they didn't try to do this (unless Al and the gang already were headed to the airport, which may have ruled it out).

@amerikagaijin 2 года назад

"If the referees knew the rules then this whole controversy never happens." LOL that's asking alot out of the NFL refs.

@DolFan316 2 года назад

What even are the rules these days? People seem to just make them up depending on how they feel at that particular moment. Not just in sports but in life.

@bubbafug00gle51 2 года назад

ABC was in no way breaking the contract, the NFL signaled the end of the game by having the participants leave the field. It is not ABC's responsibility to administer the rules of the game.

@cjcolehour2778 2 года назад

absolutely right, it wouldn't stop the NFL from maybe suing all; the same, however.

@nasetvideos 2 года назад

I absolutely remember this happening. It's amazing that they didn't change the rule about kicking the extra point after time expired after this game. Great video coverage of this game, too. And bringing up "teaser card" was excellent context that was a factor...and I'm surprised that Hollis kicked the extra point as opposed to just taking a knee or getting hurt kicking the point. But no footage to show any of it...and yes, this wasn't the fault of ABC...the refs needed to know this simple rule. Loved this video--Really did your homework here. Great job :)

@mfdixon1985 2 года назад

At this point, net points was relatively high on the list. As we saw in the previous post mentioned, it's why Pittsburgh ended up winning the division. For that reason, I'm actually somewhat surprised Jacksonville didn't go for 2, especially since intercepted 2 point plays couldn't even be returned at this point. But I'm not surprised they kicked it. Especially early in the season, you never know when that extra point might matter. The NFL later moved net points down the list. So with later plays when a TD got scored and time expired but the extra point was still required (like the fail mary), the teams were more inclined to take a knee.

@SuperTugz 2 года назад

The extra point legally has to compliment the TD even after time expires, because it's "part or the TD". If it's a 6-point game and tied with the 6 points they would need it. In a case like this or in sudden death, it becomes completely redundant. But there ARE situations where it's important and necessary (Steelers V Packers 2009 for example)

@mgb4692 2 года назад

It wasn't at all zeros, but the very first one after the NFL implemented the defensive conversion is that very example. Saints/Broncos 2016: Broncos up 23-17, Saints tie it with a Brees TD to Brandin Cooks, only for the Broncos to block the XP and Justin Simmons takes it back for two. Broncos win 25-23. Saints actually did it themselves a few weeks later vs Carolina, but not in the same spot.

@mfdixon1985 2 года назад

@@SuperTugz Yes but I'm assuming if the TD only tied the game and the PAT was needed to win it, you wouldn't have the teams and fans clearing the field with the network signing off. I'd even go as far as to say if the score is within 2 points on either side, make the PAT get kicked. A team up 2 can theoretically have a return against it and even if all they'd do is take a knee, that can get botched. So at least make that necessary. But when there's literally no time on the clock and the lead/deficit is more than 3 points, there's no need for it. And as far as the PAT being "part of the TD," OK. But touching all 4 bases is part of the home run. But there have been instances when that wasn't plausible so the umpires had the discretion to say the run counted. Hell, the NBA let a whole 45 seconds of a game go unplayed because a riot broke out. Even when things settled down, the game was out of hand so they just decided to let the remaining seconds go unplayed. While I appreciate the need to maintain the rules, I don't think the PAT is any more sacred than either of those situations.

@kingdingaling2469 2 года назад

“ Outraged “ ? Anyone who even cared about this extra point needs help

@timfortune9 2 года назад

Not surprising the League made the play continue when for all intents and purposes it was pointless. 4 years later, during the "Bottlegate" game, they still made both teams go out 20 minutes later (this time in a near full riot) solely for a kneeldown. Kind of funny how both games involve the Jags.

@LogoAttitude 2 года назад

Bottlegate was the last time the Jaguars played a division game against the Browns. Needless to say, the Jaguars, actually being on the Atlantic Coast, never made sense in the AFC Central. But the NFL has always been weird with geography. Like the Dallas Cowboys being in the NFC East despite being west of every North and South Division team in the conference, It was worse when the Rams were in St. Louis, as the 4th-westernmost NFC team during that time, the Cowboys should have been in the NFC West. Now they should be in the NFC South.

@timfortune9 2 года назад

@@LogoAttitude Between 1995 and 2001, the NFC East had 2 teams west of the Mississippi (Dallas and Arizona), while the NFC West had 3 (New Orleans, Atlanta, and Carolina). At this point, the NFC South is the successor to the old NFC West and the current NFC West is the new division. A somewhat more accurate geographical divisional map would be (with no conference changes) NFC East: NY, Philadelphia, Washington, Carolina NFC North: Stays the same NFC West: Stays the same NFC South: Dallas, New Orleans, Tampa, Atlanta AFC East: New England, Buffalo, NY, Baltimore AFC North: Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Indianapolis AFC West: Stays the same AFC South: Miami, Houston, Jacksonville, Tennessee

@LogoAttitude 2 года назад

@@timfortune9 if we want to be truly accurate, then Carolina goes to the AFC South, Baltimore to the NFC East, KC to the AFC North, Pittsburgh to the AFC East and Houston to the AFC West (being further west than KC)

@encycl07pedia- 2 года назад

It was NOT pointless. Points are used for tiebreakers and in 1997, that same season, the Steelers edged out the Jaguars for the AFC Central crown because of points! You guys saying the EP is pointless are morons who can't see the bigger picture. And yes, points are STILL used as tiebreakers in the NFL.

@LogoAttitude 2 года назад

@@encycl07pedia- Points aren't as high on the tiebreaker list anymore because now every pair of teams in the same division has 12 games against common opponents each year, and every pair of non-division opponents within the same conference has 5 games against common opponents each year. This is a result of the realignment into 8 4-team divisions in 2002 and the scheduling rotation introduced because of it. The common opponents tie-breaker is used more often as a result.

@GabrielRodriguez-mc4me 2 года назад

Lots of weird moments in NFL history have involved the Jags, haven't they?

@DolFan316 2 года назад

Has he done the ending to that one Jags-Saints game yet?

@blakebortles6098 2 года назад

@@DolFan316 garrard bombs to mike thomas vs texans bottlegate vs browns i think that was after the no game

@malarucoon 2 года назад

"Florida Man" Syndrome.

@patrickstogsdill74 2 года назад

@Gabriel Rodriguez like the Jags-Brown controversy in 1999?

@uTubeNoITube 2 года назад

Nice Hartford Whalers throwback. All I remember about them is the goalie for my team scored the only goal of his career, an empty netter, against you guys haha.

@Bruce12867 2 года назад

I remember when the Miracle at the Met took place in 1980 (Ahmad Rashad's last-second touchdown vs. the Browns), the officials made both teams come back out to attempt the extra point after about five or ten minutes after the TD was scored and the field was cleared off. For the record, the Browns blocked the extra point, so the final score remained 28-23.

@KnightBoat 2 года назад

I believe the Jaguars first nationally televised game was Sunday night on ESPN (or TNT?) against Green Bay in 1995. The big storyline was that it was Brett Favre's former backup Mark Brunell's first time playing his old team.

@kashakamcpherson9719 2 года назад

It was on TNT in 1995

@WriterBrandonMcNulty 2 года назад

@@kashakamcpherson9719 Yep, I remember watching it as a 5-year-old. My dad was like, "Hey, that new team is playing on TV."

@kenhill3230 2 года назад

I watched this game, and remember going crazy when the Jaguars blocked the kick and ran it back. I literally never knew about the extra point chaos. I miss those great Jags teams.

@jakerojas4756 2 года назад

Henderson and Stroud--- great duo

@pcharl01 2 года назад

I also miss the old logo.

@BD-1-And-Only 2 года назад

I can’t imagine if you bet money on it lol. I bet money on the Minneapolis Miracle. The Vikings were -5.5. I took the Saints. I remember freaking out when they scored the touchdown, then freaking out even more when I thought they were gonna kick the PAT, thus making it a 6 point victory which would mean I would lose. They kneeled on it and I won.

@awesome123306 Год назад

The 99 team needs to be talked about more. There only 3 losses were to the Titans but it's somehow never talked about

@LukeL007 2 года назад

It amazes me how so many people whose income and livelihood depends on the NFL do not know the basic rules of the game. Even if I were watching the game back then as a 12 year old kid I would know that you have to kick the extra point.

@calennon3 2 года назад

I would’ve taken option 2 if I were ABC, just without showing the kick. Just use the ticker and show the final score while saying the extra point was made after tv coverage cut away

@isakdinesen11111 2 года назад

I wonder how much power the network would actually have in that scenario. Usually if ticker messages show up on affiliate stations in local news/other programming, they’re controlled by the affiliates themselves unless it’s a national broadcast. ABC would have to relay that info to every local affiliate in the country, who would get their master control operator to run it on a scroll to save their behinds. (I say this as someone who actually presently works in local TV, at an ABC affiliate.)

@bwburke94 2 года назад

More important question: Were the Jaguars assessed a delay of game penalty?

@devinmorrison2993 2 года назад

refs never set the ball.....play clock never started...

@pieluvr7362 2 года назад

The real ? Why did they deflect the news what was going on they were hiding from certain markets because it's a east west tv

@devinmorrison2993 2 года назад

@@pieluvr7362 what are you smoking?

@retrogamingcommentary4163 2 года назад

I clearly remember watching this game with its crazy ending. As a Steelers fan, it was a shock at the time to see them snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, but now I look back on it and laugh when I remember the look on Cowher's face. Mainly, I'm thankful he didn't give in to the temptation to run on the field and tackle Hudson. If he had, the controversy about the extra point would have paled in comparison! I actually didn't know that the extra point took place completely off camera. The crazy thing is that point differential ended up becoming significant that season because of the division championship being determined by the fifth tiebreaker.

@Wolverine607 2 года назад

Well if that had happened The Steelers would have been assessed a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty with 0 time on clock and game over as Jacksonville does not score touchdown and wins 23-21 and Cower gets suspended and fined afterwards. Well maybe Jacksonville gets 1 play with 0 time on untimed down as game cannot end on defensive penalty even if the team leading is it. Though were the Stealers considered to be on defense after the block and Hudson running it back?? Or were they still considered on offense because they were on offense when lining up for the field goal before it was blocked and possession had not changed before live play was over.

@robbk3021 2 года назад

Great video. I remember watching this game and that play, and how they showed several replays of Cowher's near-punch and Al Michaels commenting that he nearly "pulled a Woody Hayes" or something similar. But I never knew they were pulled back out for the extra point until now. And that reminds me of another game you should do a video on, ironically Christmas Eve, 2000. Dolphins were at the Patriots and the Pats tried a Hail Mary attempt that failed at the end of the game, so game over. Only it wasn't, because sometime WELL AFTER the game had ended the refs decided time should be put back on the clock so they called both teams out of the locker room to try another Hail Mary, which again failed. This included Zach Thomas coming back onto the field straight out of the shower in a towel and slides. Look that one up!

@Rockhound6165 2 года назад

@OneHairyGuyOSU vs Clemson in the Gator Bowl.

@DolFan316 2 года назад

RobbK officially wins the comments 👏👏👏I also remember seeing this play and having no idea about the PAT. And yes I'm still furious over that Fins-Pats ending. Especially since the Pats actually could've won the game on that completely untimed and uncalled for play, they only lost by 3. Imagine an NFL team actually losing a division title or playoff spot because of something like that. 2000 was the year when the media decided that reality wasn't actual reality anymore, but whatever they decided it was.

@billny33 2 года назад

I remember this Pats-Dolphins game, not from watching it but from seeing highlights on NFL Primetime and Chris Berman narrating how 15 minutes later guys had to get out of the shower for 1 last play and I could not believe what I was seeing. It looked ridiculous, unreasonable and unfair and what if the last hail mary counted and was good. I was really bothered by that but also thought this has to be one of the wildest endings ever. Also add to the fact that this decided the division at the end of the season. Teams had already celebrated winning the division on what they thought was the last play. It was hard to wrap my mind around at the time. I also don't know if the network for that game signed off and came back to show the last play or if that one also wasn't televised, but would have been interesting to see that footage if it was captured of a truly important hail mary in an empty stadium with 2 bewildered announcers trying to make sense of it.

@robbk3021 2 года назад

@@billny33 It was definitely broadcast because that’s how I remember seeing it lol. I believe it was the nationally-televised game for CBS that day, and I was watching the second part of the double header when they went back to Foxboro to show what happened. That’s how I saw Zach Thomas in a heavy coat, a bath towel, and shower slides lol.

@JosephGualtieri 2 года назад

I remember that one; it was ridiculous.

@NewTears1 2 года назад

Imagine going through all this effort and figuring out what you’re going to do. You end up showing the end of the game just to see the kicker miss the extra point.

@thrillington2008 2 года назад

A crt screen in the same size of my lcd TV in the late 90s/early 2ks was very expensive (like at least $3500 then and my aunt's husband used to own one of those) then but the lcd I have costed like under $400 in 2014 (did paid for it but won that TV at a work party and that was the grand prize). I'm in awe with the majority of the stories of football then that you tell.

@brianoneill7186 2 года назад

'Making the players leave the locker room and return to the field 15 minutes later, for a meaningless extra point, is like spiking the ball into the ground on every play.'

@eddietat95 2 года назад

The title showed up on my RU-vid app as "The CRAZIEST BROAD...", so that's why I'm here. Kinda disappointed actually...

@TheLocalLt 2 года назад

Even though this was in 97, the graphics bring back ESPN NFL 2k5 flashbacks, one of the great video games ever! ESPN were still using these graphics thru mid 2004 when that game came out, although ABC Sports (which was still a separate brand from ESPN for the first decade after Disney bought both) had switched away from these by that point

@WaltGekko 2 года назад

Actually, there was one other option: Move the finish to ESPN and let them show the extra point live, then show it on ABC between the end of local news and the beginning of Nightline in the east or other programming in the west. They could have shown it as a one-minute segment, Now, in that situation, ESPN would have simply cut from Sportscenter to do that.

@Donald38 2 года назад

This is the video that introduced me to your great channel.

@vdubproductions2646 2 года назад

Living on the west coast, I remember watching this game from start to finish, going to sleep right after the game ended. Waking up the next morning, finding out they still had to kick the extra point I was like WTF? I've always hated the fact the NFL used to still say you have to attempt the extra no matter how insignificant the extra point meant to the game.

@mfdixon1985 2 года назад

Insignificant to the game on the field? Yes. Insignificant overall? I'm not sure you can argue that given that net points was not only relatively high on the tiebreaker list, but actually what would decide the division championship this year.

@vdubproductions2646 2 года назад

@@mfdixon1985 That is true back then Net Points was a higher end of the tie breaker procedure. Just like the Points War Week 17 of the 1999 season

@encycl07pedia- 2 года назад

@@vdubproductions2646 You've just described why it matters. As long as points are used in ANY sort of tiebreaker, they should require the EP to be kicked. Michael Dixon explained just how important it was not only to this season but to also these two teams: The Steelers won the AFC Central title over the Jaguars due to overall points.

@ericrakestraw664 2 года назад

Considering that it took five tiebreakers to decide the AFC Central division in 1997, the extra point at the end of the game could have mattered if the points differential tiebreaker had gone into effect.

@aviationdude1 2 года назад

This happened another time (I forget when) with a game famously dubbed the “Heidi Game” when NBC cut away from the Oakland-New York game because they thought the Jets were gonna win and they were under pressure to aid the Heidi program. The raiders scored two touchdowns off camera to win the game, and fans were furious that they couldn’t see the ending

@reedclow00 2 года назад

It's happened a lot actually. CBS did it a few years ago in a chargers/ravens game. Cut away on the final drive of the game.

@Nickwatchesfootball 2 года назад

i wish i would of found this channel sooner, great information

@20thCY Год назад

Honestly, I think this is NFL's fault. They had this stupid rule, and they didn't inform enough people about this.

@KyleCaughlin 2 года назад

Love your channel, Boss. I'm a bit of a classic football junkie myself, but I'm learning things I never even knew about. Keep up the good work.

@Rockhound6165 2 года назад

You should look up what happened when they had to resume the Pine Tar game between the Yankees and Royals.

@StarTropicsKing 2 года назад

I went into this thinking the lost play was a kick blocked and return for a touchdown after a kick blocked and returned for a touchdown. Now THAT would be a wile finish!

@Justin-Hill-1987 5 месяцев назад

1997 was also the year that Jacksonville's ABC affiliation moved from WJKS-TV 17 to WBSG 21/WJXX 25...

@nickbradfordsr80 2 года назад

Oddly I wonder how this works today... 🤔 just a few weeks ago the Detroit Lions 1st victory of the season vs the Vikings, they never kicked the extra point either and the game wasn't even in overtime, yet they didnt kick the extra point and won by 1 pt. So confusing like the playoff scenarios as mentioned in a later video by OJG9 about the 82' Steelers. You can click the link in the upper right corner to check out that video.

@biIIyball 2 года назад

This reminds me somewhat of the Dolphins-Patriots game in 2000 (which incidentally took place on Christmas Eve). Patriots fumbled on the last play, clock ran out, both teams went to the locker room with the Dolphins celebrating winning the AFC East with a 27-24 win. But then it was determined 35 minutes later that it was an incomplete pass and there should be :03 left on the clock. CBS did air the final play of the game but not sure how many of the markets that started with the game went back to it (I know WBZ in Boston did as they were in the middle of airing their Patriots post game show). Fortunately for the Dolphins the Hail Mary pass fell short and the final score stayed 27-24. This would be a good subject for a future video if it hasn't already been covered.

@pronkb000 2 года назад

100% there needs to be a video on this--this was the incident that this video reminded me of. One of the weirdest final plays in NFL history. Also should be a video on a Patriots-Bills game a year or so before that where the Bills got flagged for an incredibly rare pass interference foul on a Hail Mary, which allowed the Patriots to get the winning TD on an untimed down from the 1-yard line. The Bills were so disgusted that they walked off the field and refused to take part in the mandatory PAT, so the Patriots just ran it in for the easy (but meaningless) 2-point conversion.

@pronkb000 2 года назад

Looking at the listings...CBS had the singleheader that week, so many markets probably had post-game coverage and got to see the final play if they weren't watching the FOX game. CBS had only one 4pm game, Steelers @ Chargers, so unless there was a cut-in I'm guessing most people in SoCal and PA and possibly most of Ohio didn't see it live. The announcers were Kevin Harlan and Daryl Johnston...I note that only because I have ZERO memory of Moose on CBS. I thought he was a FOX guy all the way.

@kessel12 2 года назад

I came here to post this and saw your comment. I totally remember that. The Dolphins were doing their postgame speech (was Wannstedt the coach then?) and the referees came in to tell them they had to go back on the field. The coach was so pissed he said “turn the cameras off.” Dudes walked out on to the field wearing towels.

@theandyrichter2868 2 года назад

How did they determine that 35 minutes later?

@PhillyCYOSports 2 года назад

Can you start to include the Week as well as the year in the description brother

@eugenedenbrook322 2 года назад

Didn't he state it was week 4, early in the show?

@americanidol30 2 года назад

The play known as the kick six between Baltimore and Cleveland did not have a PAT attempt. At that time, it would have to be kicked. But because Monday Night Football was on ESPN, it could cut away from Sports Center.

@classicsportsgames 2 года назад

I was born right after this game was over

@lo1bo2 2 года назад

I started to think at least one fan must have recorded the play, then realized what year this happened. Wonder if this is the only NFL play in X number of years that the league doesn't have on film.

@neondeion12 2 года назад

I wonder if this had any effect when it came to betting on the game. Could you imagine going to bed thinking you won the over/under or covered the spread and then woke up the next morning to find out you actually lost?

@Kid-Pink_88. 2 года назад

4:13 Trip? Cowher was a linebacker in his 20s, he wanted go in for the tackle on that blocked kick

@DolFan316 2 года назад

Even at the time I think almost everybody understood that what he did was pure instinct rather than any attempt at cheating.

@MrBiscuit75 2 года назад

@@DolFan316 exactly. I remember being pleased that we had a coach with that much fire, passion and enthusiasm. What Tomlin did was just sneaky and embarrassing. But Mikey t owned up to it (somewhat) and it's history now

@utf59 2 года назад

My wife and I were in the stadium for that game. When they finally brought the players out and as they were starting to line up, my wife yelled "Go for 2!" She was kidding, of course, but she got some incredulous looks.

@chriswalker1993 2 года назад

Don’t bet on a sport you don’t know the rules to

@mattydaddy5900 2 года назад

The jaguars are in the AFC South as the AFC Central does not exist...

@caseysmith544 2 года назад

Not really the small screen issues as people can get closer to TV to see this but the fact that all the broadcast was in 480 DPI at the time does not help the split screen option and today, they are 720 to 1080 on most TV's for Broadcasting that can get a signal in much clearer.

@caseysmith544 2 года назад

The Same thing Happened in the NFL Ref strike season in 2012 where the Packers and Seahawks had to play an extra point and the Packers refused to take the field due to a call that was not good where the play should have been a Touchback for the Packers so they sent as much of the backup players and barely lined up after a 12--15 minute thing of trying to figure out how to get a team back and getting Packers to want to do the kick an extra point after for the touchdown. Since this was an ESPN sports thing for Monday night having swapped Monday night for Sunday night on the big networks in 2010 or so, they could play on with the extra kick and delay the Sports Center program.

@scottfarmer8758 2 года назад

I was at a Bills game against the Jaguars on opening day 2004. The Bills led 10-6 and on the final play the Jaguars scored the game winning TD. But even though the game had been decided they still kicked the extra point. I thought to myself why bother.

@RichV20 2 года назад

A year later after this MNF game, 1998, Bills were called for BS pass interference on a last second Hail Mary against the Patriots. The Patriots scored on the next last play from the 1 yard line and won the game. Wade Phillips and the Bills were pissed off and walked off the field instead of defend the extra point. Pete Carroll had Viniatieri walk in a 2-point conversion with all the Bills in the locker room. I didnt know that rule was still in effect until a few years ago. That's when I started to hate the Patriots, 2 years before Tom Brady. I even rooted for the Patriots and Bledsoe in the SB in 1996. That was the start of the Patriots-Refs collusion

@scottfarmer8758 2 года назад

@@RichV20 ya I remember that. That was awful

@DolFan316 2 года назад

@@scottfarmer8758 #metoo

@mgb4692 2 года назад

Don't remember the PI, but I do remember Terry Glenn getting a first down when he was at least a yard short on that drive as well.

@scottfarmer8758 2 года назад

@@mgb4692 the referee said 'just give it to him'

@erichthor2580 2 года назад

It could've been broad cast in split screen, remember the Ford Bronco footage during the NBA Finals? That was shown in split screen in the lower left corner during the finals.

@johnliberty3647 2 года назад

Hard to believe that this game was almost a quarter century ago.

@NillyNilly546 2 года назад

Those people who seen the kick must feel really special huh?

@matttyrer9096 2 года назад

Interesting rule change not to kick the extra point given that "Best Net Points" is a divisional tiebreaker....

@katieandkevinsears7724 2 года назад

This is a game ending almost as bizarre as Bottlegate.

@Tillyard86 2 года назад

Maybe ABC should have had a word with the Jags and asked if they could just take a knee so that PAT it didn’t change the score.

@chadwickwhite6107 2 года назад

Who CARES? The Pittsburgh Steelers and the Jacksonville Jaguars aren't even good ENOUGH to be a 39.6 ANYWAY. The game PROBABLY ended by BOTH teams SPIKING the football into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play!!!!!

@rickshafer6688 2 года назад

I tried today find this video. "Official gator" came right up.

@anthonybanchero3072 2 года назад

Back then, wasn’t it rare for the west coast games of MNF to be live? I remember it was a big deal when KOMO got the games that weren’t Seahawk ones to be live.

@playoffexpert3938 2 года назад

Depends what team was on the schedule

@ZantharEos 2 года назад

This happened this year during a buccaneers game early in the season. The bucs were up by like 30 and there was like 4 minutes left and they just changed to another game

@Rio..o7.. 2 года назад

Imagine being local news guy on camera: "Don't they have to kick the extra point?"

@J3MOdh3NOWX3S 2 года назад

Points scored and points allowed is an eventual playoff tiebreaker. Points matter.

@bishyo22 2 года назад

I would've been in favor of having Al Michaels do a brief cut-in after the local news and before Nightline (or during prime-time programming on the West Coast) to note what happened and note the final score. Yes, a lot of folks might still be surprised if they went to bed before the cut-in, but it's better than not noting the moment at all. And as far as option 2 is concerned, yes, analog screens were smaller back then. But we had TV's with picture-in-picture, so I don't think it's the aesthetics that would've stopped it. I think the fact that, except for the west coast, the affiliates were on locally with late local news, the logistics would've been difficult. And for an XP that didn't change the end result, even if it screwed over some teasers, it would've been deemed not worth it in 1997.

@SaltyChip 2 года назад

The extra point could swing millions of dollars in the gambling world. Every point definitely matter.

@toasted7135 2 года назад

surprised abc decided to not show it, it would never ever happen today, today they would cut out for the XP, or just show it to there sister station like espn 2

@RageTVHTX 2 года назад

No footage exists? Doesn’t NFL Films record their own footage of every game?

@quarrynate153 2 года назад

I'm shocked this wasn't the reason for getting rid of that rule. Its crazy to me that it took so long for it to be changed and the one that got it to change wasn't even as bad as this situation was. Craziness

@lukew1383 2 года назад

#refball, 1997 edition. Fortunately, back then, it only hurt very few gamblers in Vegas and didn't change the outcome of games.

@andrewwomble2722 2 года назад

This is a great example of when people overthink a situation.

@coolkidisaac 2 года назад

Cowher wasn’t even close to trippin him😭

@JakeBechtold 2 года назад

Tell me you've never worked in broadcasting without telling me you've never worked in broadcasting. There is no way you'd get hundreds of ABC affiliates to rejoin the network 15 mins into the local news on a moments notice. Options 1 and 2, even today, are simply not feasible.

@NSUTurtle 2 года назад

1997: "Cut away from the nightly news to miss the important goings on for a unimportant extra point" 2021: I'll rather watch more football even if it's an extra point, it's football!

@thebighousencaaattendancer478 2 года назад

Option 4: Play the end of the game on an ABC sister station!

@VanillaLimeCoke 2 года назад

5:10 I wish they kept the rule like it was. You’re taking points away from the kicker. I mean it sounds silly…….but if he’s trying to kick the most points in one season……then it isn’t so silly.

@datsweetsansabooty 2 года назад

Damn my computer monitor is 24" inches, my tv was 19 inches lol

@scottconner7930 2 года назад

23 Years Ago

@blaquenguni9249 Год назад

This guy thinks people learn "important stuff " from the news 😭😂😂😂

@tyler2loud804 2 года назад

Yo what’s the name of the background music

@thomaswashburn3513 2 года назад

Could you imagine the outrage if Pittsburgh would have blocked the extra point and ran it back for a TD and opted for a two point conversation to tie the game…

@99dndd 2 года назад

Under the rules at the time, the play would have been blown dead the moment Pittsburgh had possession of the ball. Today, the Steelers would have been awarded 2 points for running the extra point back.

@thomaswashburn3513 2 года назад

@@99dndd that’s right… I was thinking of the field goal rules. 👍

@PeTroL420 2 года назад

The news? What about NBC snd CBS? Couldn't people watch those channels if they wanted to watch the news?

@richardtherichard26 2 года назад

55 inches is how many percent bigger than 22inches? Lol It’s 150% not 525. still pretty big but not 500% not even close. Regardless they made the right call. It’s not their fault the nfl had/has stupid rules. And it’s not their job to worry about the 5 bettors who had teasers. Sorry. Game was over. A meaningless extra point changed nothing. That’s why the rule was changed bc the nfl finally realized that it meant nothing

@leogetz3570 2 года назад

Yeah, he must be going by "square inches"... 22x22 (484) vs 55x55 (3025). Also, lets not forget the big ass backs of TV's back then!!! Man, those damn things were heavy. And yes, I don't see the controversy here, ABC made the right call, and glad to see the NFL finally changed that rule

@awesome123306 Год назад

Nothing will ever beat the hedi bowl. Absolutely nothing

@kessel12 2 года назад

I wonder if any of the books paid out bets before they found out about the updated final score.

@EmperorDaemon 2 года назад

Jaguar I can't find your 2008 Jets video where they won meaningless games

@coreyrowe4119 2 года назад

This reminds me of the famous Packers/Seahawks MNF game from 2012 where the replacement level refs were standing around with no idea whether or not a PAT had to be tried after the hail mary TD Wilson threw as time expired. Luckily MNF had moved to ESPN by this point where they were just able to stay with it the entire way before signing off and throwing it to sportscenter. Just imagine what a mess that whole situation would've been if MNF was still broadcasting on ABC for the ending.

@bjnt92281 2 года назад

This game happened on my 16th birthday 😳 Didn’t get to see then end because my parents enforced a 10pm bedtime for me.

@DolFan316 2 года назад

I know what THAT'S like!!! I could never watch MNF as a kid in the '80s because of that.

@bjnt92281 2 года назад

@@DolFan316 Didn’t get to see what happened until the next day on Sportscenter. Fortunately for me they backed off enforcing a bedtime the next year as long as I kept my grades together and stayed out of trouble.

@lemmyhead8578 2 года назад

What card in the upper right hand corner?

@VULGARxRM 2 года назад

What if a team is down 6 points and they score a TD with 0:00 on the clock? Should they be allowed to kick the extra point or not? You can't have it both ways, and IDGAF if it's "anti-climactic". My point is that there's a good reason why you have to kick the extra point after each and every TD that's ever scored. Rules can't be rules only some of the time, or when they benefit the offense and/or defense in a particular situation.

@Wolverine607 2 года назад

Well of course because the PAT could win the game for the team that scores the TD. But if the PAT does not change who wins the game after a TD is scored with 0 on the clock, why should it be required to be kicked when there is no time left on the clock.

@aaronpreston13 2 года назад

Personally being someone who used to play football and being a tad old school in somethings I still think the extra point should have to be kicked. I know it is not the most convenient and the option all would like but that's football and that's how it should be played because that is football.

@jordanlong4084 2 года назад

Honestly who cares. The jags still won. Who cares if they missed 1 point

@kyle1910 2 года назад

Just so happens that JG9 referenced a previous video of his about the same two teams in 1997 where the 5th tiebreaker- net points against division opponents - was required to determine the AFC Central champ. Granted the difference in net points wasn't exactly close as it ended up with PIT at +78 and JAX at +23, but the point remains that it officially matters.

@klardfarkus3891 2 года назад

Would think they would have recorded the end anyway

@JustinG85 2 года назад

I was only 12, but I remember this

@stephensperr1379 2 года назад

Best Jags game ever was Marino’s final game

@sirius940 2 года назад

A Pittsburgh touchdown with a two point conversion could have tied the game. As stupidly unlikely as that was, according to the rules at the time Pittsburgh would have been deprived of an opportunity to win the game if the extra point was not played, so the refs did make the right decision. But just imagine the hell if they did win in overtime and it wasn't televised.

@Wolverine607 2 года назад

That could not have happened. No time on the clock or otherwise kick extra point then a kickoff. Best Pittsburgh could have done is is block PAT and run it back. Though runbacks for 2 were not allowed back then. It was a dead play. Game was over after the PAT period with no time left on the clock and Jacksonville either wins 30-21 or 29-21.

@Nyg5618 2 года назад

Cowher never tried to trip anyone. He almost tackled the guy but restrained himself. It doesn’t remotely look like he tried to trip him. Click bait titles is one thing, but you’re just straight making things up.

@dondeigo9218 2 года назад

It may have mattered to the gamblers but Jax would never be favoured more than 7 points to pitt in week 4. Teaser cards are a joke, for casual gamblers only. The line was probably 3 points for jax. So Jax -3. The point after never mattered if you bet on jax

@joshuamessenger 2 года назад

Split-screen wasn't a part of broadcasting until the 2010's. Presenting it as "an option" in the 1990's is rather foolish.

@ZDiddy7777 2 года назад

Fucking Kordell.... imagine if those 90s Cower teams had a Roethlisberger instead of Neil O'Donnell, Mike Tomczak, Kordell, Kent Graham and Tommy Maddux... with that defense, there would be SB's. I guess its kinda like, what if Roethlisberger had a competent Head Coach during his prime with AB and those defenses? I guess the only thing we know for sure, is that Kordell was terrible.

@GeronFletcher 2 года назад

What was the spread!?!?

@markgraham2312 Год назад

Go with Option #2.

@mfdixon1985 2 года назад

If the kick MUST be done, I think there's an option 4. These 2 teams played again in Week 9, Just start that game with the PAT from this game. From that point on, do the kickoff and play the second game as normal. Granted, this is only really possible in situations where it's a divisional game and even only then, when it's the first game of the scheduled 2. But given that both of those were in place here, that feels like a decent compromise.

@nicholassmith479 2 года назад

It was a great game anyway.

@pecosR0B 2 года назад

Biggest question I have is how many of those Jags fans are still Jags fans today lol

@FleshEatingMouseBottles 2 года назад

thoughts on seth payne as a player ?

@amberlopez7477 2 года назад

It sounds like you're recording this in your basement.

@encycl07pedia- 2 года назад

This is why I got so confused with the "walk-off touchdown" thing. When I was growing up, you had to kick the extra point (EP). I seem to recall some games after the rule change where a blocked EP COULD have changed the outcome, but since they removed the rule, suddenly the game was over or the scoring team didn't have to kick the EP. I actually like that rule. Just because some refs screwed up the ending of a game (as if it doesn't happen AT LEAST once a season) or because it's not flashy enough, they just ax it. It literally ONLY removes the extra point try in that one circumstance. It's like how they used to make every little exception just to call Pluto a planet, even though when I learned the planets Neptune was the furthest planet from the Sun, not Pluto like I was taught. Then again, this is from the same football league that can't figure out what a catch or even pass interference is.

@thephoenixxm4160 2 года назад

The problem is as I said in a comment replying to you earlier teams towards the later years of the rule wouldn't even send the kicking team in. They would just take a knee on the ball. You are complaining about literally nothing. Even if the rule was still in place today teams would just take a knee destroying your entire argument.

@encycl07pedia- 2 года назад

@@thephoenixxm4160 That was their choice to take a knee instead of go for 1 or 2. That's on them. They have the option to do so after every touchdown. It's not taken out of their hands just because they happened to score at a certain point of the game.