The CRAZIEST F-15 variants ever proposed 

My face when the Israelis inspire an Ace Combat character. Then again, they have like...half of the F-15's 104-0 record.

He's just copying fat electrician it's almost as if he watched the video and copied word for word with the charismatic tooken out

​@@christianlong-lo3jm this channel has been covering aircraft and airpower for a long time he's not copying anyone

@@christianlong-lo3jm tf are you going on about

@@igs_ most of his content IS original but this video of the similar script and storyline that has been made but maybe I missed spoke because all your fan boys are getting your panties in a bunch he's not copying but I think he is researching and then mimicking what video gets the most clicks at least that's what I would do but fat electrician already made this exact video with the exact information months ago

Nobody missed out. It only had some stealth value from directly ahead. Even slightly off to either side and it was as obvious as anything else. That's a big part of the problem for Russia's and China's stealth attempts.

The F-69

The F15 Horny Eagle

It would've given it sub 1m^2 RCS. Definitely useful, but internal payload in the FAST packs (the f-15's conformal tanks) was very limited. So you'd still need to carry external ordinance to make it do most "F-15 stuff". Still, I am surprised that the F-15X, and especially EX, did not incorporate some Silent Eagle tech. Even with external ordinance, it's "somewhat helpful" (as seen in the Super Hornet, Rafale, and B-1B). It's still the F-1 5EX though ;)

The F Silent Eagle was sexy as hell .

The FB-22 was a very good missed opportunity, IMO. If navalized, it would have been a great aerial refueling aircraft. I suppose the F-35 could easily do that job these days, if the current "stealthy drop tank" program for the F-35 can be modified slightly to carry aerial refueling equipment, but the extra capacity able to be carried (internally or externally) by the F-22 would be a welcome addition (because I can also see a further modification for the F-22 that replaces either the central or the outboard weapons bay(s) hardpoints for more fuel tanks, if you want to go all-in on the "turn it into an aerial refueling aircraft" route).

I'd like to hear more on F16 variants

F16 xl was one that should be be around. It almost doubled payload and would have been a great attack aircraft.

i'd love more f-18 videos.

That’s an insane distance lmfao

Imagine getting deleted by someone who was chilling a country away 💀

@@joemungus6063 AIM-54 was designed to shoot like that, it was first BVR(Beyond Visual Range) missile made.

You don't have to research to know China's military equipment is junk they're just like the Soviet Union as they would always overvalue and overplay the propaganda about how great their military is but in reality it's just stolen technology made by cheap labor and knock off parts with forced soldiers and cheap pay with adequate equipment

​@@niweshlekhak9646yeah, the Tomcat was kinda a one trick pony, but the AIM-54 was one helluva trick...

My favorite plane ever! Used to see 'em leave Kadena all the time- beautiful!!!

That’s why it outlasted the F22

​@@matthewshannon6946Messerschmitt Me 262 is my favorite because it was the first and could have changed the war if there was enough pilots fuel and parts but it did change Ariel combat forever

I'm wondering if the NGAD and Raider staying close to budget has something to do with figuring out a lot of process issues with these high tech designs that were faced with the initial f-35 etc, f-22, etc? Or if it's a intentional effort to keep things under budget.

we can afford both 88 F-35s and 88 F-15 EX II if we want.

I would have loved to see that F-14 AST 21 proposal realized

Even as it was, it would have been able to launch probably a couple of 6U or 12U cubesats.

The single biggest problem with the CMC and AAC proposals for the 747 are that they use an existing commercial aircraft as the basis. Why is this a problem? Well, now you have the same problem the germans had with Q-ships during WWII, except that unlike the WWII Germans, you don't have the "just sink everything instead" option. In other words, the problem is that it's going to face international backlash because you're painting a bulls-eye on non-combatant aircraft because you can bet that the radar arrays for the SAM sites can't tell the difference between a military-use 747 and an airliner.

I’d put money that NGAD will pretty much be the FB-22, just without the vertical stabs. I’m wondering if they’ll get active flow control figured out by the time NGAD and F/AXX come out

@@matthewnovak3095 just makes me wonder how a flying wing is supposed to be a good *fighter*. The FB-22 is a *bomber* type design. At some point, if the future is stealth vs. stealth, won't dogfights have a *higher* chance of breaking out?

@@Ilyak1986 I think at some point active flow control would allow for a more bomberish design to behave like a fighter. NGAD is also supposed to be a small run of fighters that gets replaced more often as well, so iterative design upgrades will probably come if fighters need to be able to maneuver like they used to. I think for the near future though, having greater range and a much more powerful radar, while being able to carry a good amount of ordinance internally is the path a lot of fighters will take.

@@Ilyak1986 Technically I'd describe the FB-22 as a Delta, not a flying wing. But much like the ill-fated F-16XL, it would have lost a lot of it's air combat maneuverability for that range & payload. "Tradeoffs". As for dogfights in a stealth v stealth arena... yeah. That's valid. Only problem is that 99.99% of the enthusiast circles (including quite a few pilots unfortunately) are stuck in a concept of dogfighting which is now obsolete. Missiles can pull anywhere from 30 to 60 G... something which would squish a pilot instantly. - In ye olden times (cold war) you had to paint a target with radar and wait for a missile to get a direct lock... - Then AMRAM (AIM-120A) came out, and you gained "fire & forget" capability... but you still had to paint your target to set up a launch. - Then the F-22 was being developed, and needed a way to fire AIM-120's while the missile itself could only see the inside of the weapon's bay. Ergo 'synthetic lock', which is kind of a crude-AI extra-safe "mad dog" mode. At the same time, HOBS (high off bore-sight) missile tech was blossoming (in both the US and Russia) for IR short range missiles. - It wasn't long before engineers realized HOBS could be taken much further. When the F-35 came out with 360 degree EOTS (note the 'T') and the AIM-120D with really advanced link-16 integration and now MADL integration... There's no safe place to be within missile range. Getting on a target's "6" doesn't mean you're winning anymore. Even with the 150 degrees or so of HOBS from AIM-9X/R-74M, the way dogfights actually play out is drastically altered. With 360 degrees on an AIM-120D... the whole thing is deconstructed. Two F-35's having close air combat with each other would just both be doing nonstop missile evasion, with little need of actually 'pointing' at each other. There's maneuvering involved, and it can be post-merge... But if you really want to call it "dogfighting" that's kinda a subjective call. I'd argue the missiles would be dogfighting, but the planes would just be evading. Basically, for an opponent, I'd rather have an F-16 behind me, than an F-35 in front of me. And I'd rather be in an F-35 than an F-22. That concept is still going right over the heads of many who learned their trade before this tech hit. You don't want to be anywhere within about 50 miles in front of, or 20 miles behind (energy losses doing that 180), an F-35. Dogfighting is dead. Missiles & sensor suites stole the job. People ask "when will we have dogfighting drones?" Well, we already _do_ it's called the AIM-120D. But you need a great sensor suite to fully leverage it. 'Fat Amy' fights really, _really_ dirty. And most people are still debating what the best 'sword' is, while she's got a 4(soon 6)-shot repeating rifle. Even at gen 4.5, the HOBS IR missiles make dogfighting incredibly messy.

In 1995, MDC said a standard F-15E had a combat radius 25% less than a F-111, but a big wing F-15 would have a combat radius 10% greater than a F-111.

I would still say the F-22. The F-15C would definitely lose due to the F-22s insane radar and sensors, and I’d say that the F-22 would still have a lot of advantages over an F-15EX such as its ability to supercruise at mach 1.8. The F-15EX would definitely be carrying more missiles, however, and the new radar it carries would be a massive threat. Kinematically, the F-22 has the advantage, though.

So start a fight on the war thunder forums you'll have an answer by evening