I tend to do a "high yo-yo", i think its called. if i see it turning into a circle fight, i basically roll a tad bit so i get a bit of a higher angle on the enemy, and if they dont notice you, you might be able to get a drop on them, or even get completely behind them I noticed a lot of times, just chipping away a few hit points in a dogfight is enough to quickly make them unsure and break out of the circle, making them easier to hit Another way, if they're particularly hard to fight, is to try to fly over to friendly ares, like nearby vehicles and such to try to distract or let them or find friendlies to help you take down the other plane
reminds me of the good old BF3 days, when some clan buddies were constantly in dogfights and became absolute machines. awesome what you can achieve in the air!
@@SilkOCE the best time we've ever had. but now the dogfighting feels soulless. you two are doing great but the game doesn't reflect that feeling like it did in the older Bf games
The feeling isn't the same anymore because Bf3 was still a game with competitive support like Clan match Servers and Battlelog with platoons etc. But 2042 dogfights are very fun and and skill ceiling is also high trust me bro.
Oh man this like watching maverick vs iceman. Right away I’m just like oh man he’s good. The way he’s cutting those angels to take away shots where you just really don’t have a line on him and you’re forced to rely on hitting him as he’s passing you is insane because at that point when you’re so evenly matched in a dogfight it’s feels like it’s just guna be a battle do attrition. Another thing like you say at 1:26 before even seeing who wins or loses this engagement you can’t deny this is masterful maneuvering because for a sec you do get a line on him but he knows exactly how to take that away. Anyone that’s played jets in a battlefield game knows it’s not all about how much damage you can dish out our how many kills but just can you make life an absolute hell for rival pilots and ground forces. What a great vid very fun to watch the pros go at it!
I find that speed control and knowing locations of threats really helps. You do need to take risks sometimes but I don’t always go full throttle especially if I’m behind someone and in range to hit them. Full throttle to escape after a strafe or flare is wise though.
I have encountered that guy yesterday 2 matches in a row. He was killing everyone. He's a good pilot but annoying af when he's in an enemy team xD (for 2 matches in a row). Good pilot tho
@ 5:48 the moment you decide to horizontally loop because when dogfighters use that vertical defense loop , you tend to lose control of the distance between you to if they know how to execute the vertical Yo yo s. Always screw me up 😂when I’m fighting someone good. So going horizontal was the good idea in the end !!
great vid. I really want to know if theres a turning speed like in bf4 cause now when i get into dogfights against a better player, its usually just circling around until eventually they somehow catch up to me. Its always manoeuvering but never OUTmanoeuvering
How can I see the damage amount after hitting enemy vehicle like in this video? When I shoot someone in another vehicle all I see is just the xp. Great video by the way!
I've just been using the panther last couple of days and I'm getting pretty good at dogfighting other jets, taking out the odd Heli especially transports and also taking out ground vehicles. I'm still a while off being able to accurately track infantry though but the most fun for me is dogfights anyway
Hey silk,you should make some videos flying apache/ka-52 with 127mms + TOW,it's a vehicle destroyer my man,best kit against all vics and with a very high skill ceiling due to tow and zunis being so slow in this game.
It's a fun vehicle but in some regions like OCE it's unusable because everyone and their mother uses Lis and are decent with the recoilless 😂 And there's ALWAYS that one guy waiting for their favorite streamer to get on so they can sit in a railtank and shoot them down
@@llJeezusll Just roll the heli sideways and fake your direction to dodge lis tvs,and against tor or you either fly really high and kill it or you fly low and get close to it
@@Elvy3358 trust we have no issues dodging 1 or 2 Lis missiles But you aint dodging 6 at a time Especially against some of the best Lis players in the game that dont have issues hitting nightbirds If a rail tank is bad yea usually you could just fly to the skybox and kill them. But occasionally there's people that will just pixel spawn camp (aim right where your aircraft spawns and wait with a timer and kill you as soon as you spawn in) Or just ramp up on a tiny hill allowing them to aim at the skybox
So now that this video came out I see Jets stalling out all over the place trying to figure out what you were doing there... They usually die immediately because a stationary jet is a dead jet.
Can we get (how to get more kills with jet) specialty the soldiers in foot cause every time I crash ,, I didn’t find anyone one explain the breaks with jet 😅
Hey man, hope you can answer this, how you play with jets? i mean, wasd + mouse? wasd + keyboard arrows? idk, i play with both, arrows to turn better and mouse to aim but idk if this is the best option
Id love a video about dogfighting, ive learned loada about fighting jets of you but when you both know how to do the tightest turn possible i just seem to end up in in a loop with the other guy
He is playing with 3p cam on as we seen from his POV and thats a bad setting for dogfighting,Silk has so much better vision aganst him But that guy cleanly one of the best jet players its facts, but yes just cuz someone good in dogfight not means he is good against infantry and being efficient for the team
Silk are you moving your head around trying to orient yourself to the way the jet is or am I the only idiot who is disoriented by the flying when I play
wait, they added NO plane chase camera roll?, can you fly while looking behind? I flew when the game came out, and there was no option to disable plane chase camera roll, and I couldn't pitch up while looking behind.
Wtf impossible to turn these jets so fast... how you do that? Am i missing something? I am using mouse and kb but no way i can turn the jet face to face this fast
As a pc player I use controller for jets. I use mouse for infantry and heli. Mouse jet I found alot harder for the more continuous turns and pulls. Having to reset mouse position can mean death in dogfights.
He has mentioned using keyboard for ailerons. I use this method now along with binding afterburner to w key. It takes some getting used to, but can turn so much better than with mouse only.
Maybe the reason is you play with 3P camera on and thats make the gameplay 'slow' turn it off and you will feel your Jet so much'faster' because the better vision 6:11 with 3Pcam roll for me the gameplay seens so much slower than Silk's pov And of course Aircraft sensitve 100%
Options> Controller or Mouse and Keyboard> Vehicles> scroll down until you see PILOT and just below there should be an option that says 3P Aircraft Camera Roll
ive noticed the hit reg is fucked since the patch, ive hit birds with rockets and tanks, condors as well as the flying mav and had no rego half the time yet the shell hit them directly.
Jet gameplay in this game is really boring… not complaining about the players, they are really good, cause they take out wine from a rock here…. The jet movement in 2042 is horrible so they do the possible with the little they have to do.
RF deffo a great jet player but u come out as a better one as u said he won outta u cuz u bare played jets and all that when u guys 1v1 first time. He deffo knows how to trow the other pilot but the way u play w ur cam can ez beat it.
Cuz 30 mm overheats too fast + it has a huge bullet (or shell or round, whatever) spread, and deviation while you pitch the jet. If you will combine it with delays in controls, you will struggle to hit anything, especially in headons.
i dont get why stalling the jet out is not a 'aloud move' to me that seems silly cos its still risk vs reward if the person behind you sees you stalling out they can slow down and get a easy shot on you but if they are not paying attention and they overshoot you then you get the advantage of being behind them but you now lack speed making you handle worse so if you fail your shots then you have just done a failed move it just feels to me that flying a jet is about using all the tools you have to your advantage (ofc not the stupid auto lock missiles though fuck them) otherwise your just looping each other till one of you finally make a mistake and at that point is it skill? or did one of you get bored of flying in loops and wanna try something.
I think it is bs that f35 can hiver vs the su 57 like how is that fair? I know its realistic but screw that for a video game. I have a hard time fighting f35s in the sue.
Wish they would setup the aim assist in vehicles seperate to infy like in BFV. I barely run aim assist as infy but in jets you have no choice because of the mechanics.
Its not that bad killing infantry with controller, i thin its harder to find the best settings for it, you need the 100%aircraft sensitive and that makes the zoom aim difficult for us, but when used to it its become fine. But if you have time my last uploaded video here is a 36-0 on this map with the F35 and i also play with controller but its just 64Player conquest because PS4, sure i have to practice yet but i think we can play like PC players just need to put in really hard work The annoying thing in controller is cant Pitch and roll the same time correctly.
@@96tviktor yeah that all standard I use 70 slow down aa on the ground but at 100% 150% in the air that isn't enough and it is too annoying to turn it up and down everytime I want to fly or play infy.