The CRAZIEST SCHEDULE CONTROVERSY in Monday Night Football HISTORY 

Chart itself was a middle finger to the Seahawks lmao

Holmgren when he saw the sked: I'm sorry. What?

This did not need to be a 30 minute video...

Can we take a minutes to admired the Seahawks original uni and celebrate thier 2023 returns

This is very similar to another scheduling controversy involving another Seattle team in the Sounders of MLS in 2010. The Sounders in the middle of September had not one not two not three but four different games on the road in two different competitions in that time period. To kick things off, the Sounders had to travel to San Jose Costa Rica to play Saprissa in the CONCACAF Champions League. The Sounders then had to fly 7 hours north to play Columbus in MLS. After that they had to fly to Mexico to play Monterrey in another CONCACAF Champions League match. Then to finish it off, the Sounders had to fly to Chicago to play the Fire in another MLS match. This totals 9171 miles across three different countries & multiple time zones. All of this travel took place within an 11 day time period & unlike the Seahawks in this situation, the Sounders had to remain on the road to make sure they got to each destination on time, meaning the players & coaches could not go home. As for how the Sounders did on this cross continental trip they lost 2-0 to Saprissa, thrashed Columbus 4-0, lost a heart breaker 3-2 to Monterrey after leading 2-0 at halftime & beat Chicago 1-0 on a last minute goal. After Sounders coach Sigi Schmid complained bitterly about this travel schedule, MLS & CONCACAF adjusted their schedules so that MLS clubs participating in the CONCACAF Champions League had at least 4 days between playing a Champions League match & an MLS one & the MLS clubs would have a home match to prevent this scenario from happening again.

Man I can’t wait for football season to come back

Despite what the league did to the Seahawks, Holmgren has to take some blame for how he handled things after that. The team went home, gaining 2 hours, and slept in their own beds for 3 days. And then they traveled to the other side of the country. Why not travel from KC to Charlotte and get them used to the Eastern time zone? Plenty of time to be well rested before facing the Panthers. And just like a random guy figured out how to fix the schedule when the league could not, another random guy figured out how to make a bad situation a bit easier for the Seahawks instead of what Mike Holmgren did.

c'mon now, that seahawks didnt HAVE to travel back to seattle and then to carolina. they could have stayed on somewhere between them for the week. teams do it frequently and it was much more common back then.

Excellent video ! . I also didn’t know about the agreement with Husky stadium either.

I really appreciate how you’ve slowed your speech down! This has made watching these a much better experience! Thank you so much!

When I was growing up in the 90's it seemed like everybody watched MNF. I remember the Farve game the day after he lost his Dad and torched the Raiders it was the topic of discussion the entire next day.

That was definitely a lame excuse not to change things. It's some Madden scheduling. I was playing franchise as the Steelers. Had a Monday away against the Dolphins, then an away against the 49ers, then an away against the Bills.

I remember that same season the Raiders had a MNF game at Denver, then followed that up with a road game at New Orleans and playing the early slot, but this situation with the Seahawks takes the cake. On another note in a different sport, I was at the 2010 San Francisco Giants home opener which took place on Friday April 9, 2010 against the Atlanta Braves. That was a 1:35 PM first pitch but the Braves played the night before in Atlanta against the Chicago Cubs that was a 7:10 PM Eastern first pitch. Could you imagine playing that late and then flying cross country and maybe getting in at 2 or 3 am, not getting to your hotel until maybe 4 am then playing an early afternoon game. That game went 13 innings as well. That would come to close to MLBs equivalent to this situation.

Seattle played AT Miami, AT Carolina, AT Jacksonville, and AT Atlanta that season. 4 cross country trips, wild

Im coming off a 15-1 season and a Super Bowl title on Madden 12 and the only prime time game I get this season is one Monday night game in week fifteen against the Rams. Wtf?!?!

The league remembers that in 2005. Super Bowl.

also, the only worse scenario i can think of is them flying to Miami.

Those Husky Stadium games were...they made you miss the Kingdome days.

I remember clear as day the 2005 Patriots vs Raiders matchup cuz it was like a wk after hurricane Katrina and I headed to Tennessee and watched it

The NFL was straight-up incompetent in this case. I'm not gonna suggest that the Seahawks would've beaten the Panthers with a better travel situation, but I think they would've had a better shot. Having to fly from Kansas City, Mo. back to Seattle on a short week and to Charlotte and back after that is brutal and I'm not surprised that they played so poorly at the Panthers. I don't care that the game in Charlotte was in the late window. The NFL had no business having the Seahawks play in Charlotte after a Monday night road game, especially on that was 2 time zones east of them.

Seahawks did had a primetime game at Husky Stadium the following year on Sunday Night Football beating the Oakland Raiders

I have heard of teams not going home if they had a similar situation

A couple of interesting facts about the Seahawks schedule that year. 1. They played in San Diego the week before the KC game. How hard would it have been to switch the Chargers game with the Panthers game? 2. They ended the season with consecutive games at Husky Stadium on Saturday.

Cool setup

Cardinals used to do this all the time. People forget that when they moved to Arizona in 1988 they were still in the NFC East until 2002. 1989-week 1 at Detroit, week 2 at Seattle, week 3 at NY Giants. Don't recall anyone making a big deal out of it then. Or how about this. 1990-week 1 @ Washington, week 2 @ Philadelphia, week 3 @ New Orleans.

If Washington was on the road, then why not switch the games and play on Monday Night Game in Seattle.

The Seahawks should have boycotted that game.

Rn in soccer in the leauges cup leon fc plays tomrw and they slept in the floor in the airport...they played in vancouver then tomrw in LA😂😢

God, just thinking about Dennis Miller in the booth make me nauseous.

Now they play in england..whilie the epl is at its peak

It happens all the time. Seattle always travels the most

The Seahawks should have flown directly to Carolina from Kansas city

out of all of the games we have weekly MNF is still the biggest.

IF YOU CAN REMEMBER IN 1997 THE PITTSBURGH STEELERS @ THE JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL WAS IN JACKSONVILLE❤🎉😊

Any way you can make your videos louder. Great videos by the way. Thanks

Why not just ask Carolina to be able to practice on their field and travel directly to Charlotte after playing in KC? I know the Pats have had back to back road games on the west coast and did this.

It stinks that after this defeat, the Hawks lost 5 straight 😢

There are lots of Seattle Seahawks fans who really believe, myself included, that there is a bias against our team. This is another example of why that belief exists.

This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about a better game for the Seahawks against the Panthers in the 2005 NFC Championship Game, which the Seahawks won in spite of a bad move by Mike Holmgren.

NCAA basketball sometimes did this with the tournament as well before they went to the pod system they currently use. I remember that in 2000 the regionals were played in Buffalo and the Sweet 16 was played in Syracuse. One of the teams in that regional was Pepperdine in Malibu, CA. They lost to Oklahoma State in the 2nd round and the Cowboys chose to stay in New York for the week before the Sweet 16.

I remember when snf came on espn and mnf came on mnf

Seattle teams crush frequent flyer miles. Watching baseball and their new hockey team as well they have to visit the east coast several times throughout the season while coming to the west coast for the east is like a vacation for those teams. But that is the beast for west coast teams.

9 plus minutes before the controversy is even mentioned......Come on man....

Carolina was 7-9 in 2000

Dam Son!

Hey, have you ever done a video on the "Free Safety Game" when the Seahawks played the Raiders in 2000?

you should make the intro delivery shorter. great video though

Oh, that season was rough. Luckily,i live in Baltimore amd got to watch the Ravens that year

Why couldn't the Seahawks just share a practice facility with any of the Carolina FBS schools? (For context to the other commenters, UNC-Charlotte didn't have football yet, so they wouldn't have had a suitable practice facility.) That's what I would've tried in that situation. You could maybe even get the league to reimburse your lengthy stay because it's their fault for the massive oversight.

Other teams have been screwed in the regular season. The Dolphins had a home game followed by a game in Seattle followed the next week by a 1:00 game in New England how is that much better. That is 3000+ miles In back to back weeks on the road. The longest road trip in the league followed by the second longest road trip to New England.

From 1995-2001, the San Francisco 49ers lead the NFL in miles logged on the road due to the Rams moving from Los Angeles to St. Louis and the expansion Carolina Panthers joining the NFC West Division. That left San Francisco as the only NFC West team that actually played their home games on the west coast, a problem that wasn't rectified until the NFL realigned the divisions to be more geographically friendly to begin the 2002 NFL season. Even though the 49ers logged more travel miles than any NFL team just in their four road division games alone, I never recalled them complaining to the league about it. They toughed it out and made the playoffs five times in that seven-year span. Maybe I'm just biased as a 49er fan, but Mike Holmgren and the Seahawks just come off as whiny crybabies in that situation. They could have easily stayed on the east coast in the week leading up to the Carolina game instead of flying back to Seattle. In recent years the 49ers would always, when they played back-to-back road games in the eastern time zone, choose to stay on the road to avoid the unnecessary travel and they usually played better as a result.

Back then, Monday night football was THE game. Not Sunday night like it has been since 2006. The Seahawks weren't even relevant enough to be on there if not for Holmgren's arrival. They played 3 Monday night games in the prior 10 full seasons from 1989-1998. Most teams like the niners, cowboys, packers, would play 3 MNF games per season. So bottom line f*** seattle

Would Like to see 2 games a week...!!! With *BYE* weeks being in the center of the season...: . . Who needs a Bye-week in Week 2...Or 17...??!!! ..... Week 7....AFC get's Off......Week 9....NFC get's Off...!!!

The league should have done better. But it's also worth pointing out the travel distance detail is a bit warped. It's amplified by merit of being the Seahawks. In Seattle. That 6000 is probably closer to 5000 in that regard.

If this was UW bitching, I'd say the fact that the Hawks played the Jets in 2012 some 14-15 hours after the Huskies played Utah on Senior Night (when they played at Lumen in 2011-12 during Husky Stadium renovation) is more than adequate repayment

Traveling distances have something to do with the reason they changed the "pairings" of teams in the West Divisions in terms of which opponents were home and which were away according to the league's scheduling rotation. Starting with the 2002 season, with the new alignment and scheduling format, in each division, the teams were listed 1-4 by their location identifier. Example: AFC East - Buffalo, Miami, New England, New York (Jets). In each division teams 1 & 2 were paired while 3 & 4 were paired. Thus each season Buffalo and Miami got the same home opponents and same away opponents, excluding the two games each wound play against teams within their conference based on previous season standings. Same went for New England and New York Jets. The issue aroxe with the fact that in the West divisions, the pairs were Denver/Kansas City, Oakland/San Diego, Arizona/St. Louis, and San Francisco/Seattle. This meant that, for one thing, two teams from one division would have two West Coast road games, while the other two didn't have any. And worse, per the rotation, in a few seasons a couple of teams from a division would end up with four West Coast road games while the other two had none. That happened in 2005 with Dallas and the New York Giants both having two play all four Pacific Coast teams away, while Philadelphia and Washington got to face each of them at home. I'm aware of the Cardinals home base being in a state where their time of day is the same as the Pacific Coast 8 months out of the year and the first two months of the NFL season but the point stands. Then there was 2008 when, per the scheduling rotation, New England and the Jets would have to face those four WC teams away, while Buffalo and Miami got to host those teams. I do remember that the Patriots requested that the league schedule those games in two back-to-back weekends, which was granted. The Jets made no such request and was thus stuck with four separate trips to the WC at different parts of the season. The Patriots went 3-1 in those games while the Jets were 0-4 in those games, not to mention that none of the four WC teams had a winning record in 2008. Another problem is that if that exact rotation had stayed in place in perpetuity, Buffalo and Miami would never be forced to endure that kind of schedule, but the Patriots and Jets would about every 24 years. In the aftermath, starting with the 2010 season, the "pairings" of the West Division teams switched, as now it was Denver/Oakland, Kansas City/San Diego, Arizona/San Francisco and St. Louis/Seattle. Of course the Rams moved back to LA, still the league has done a few more things to ease the burden of travel.

big deal. teams travel to all coasts during the season. more games when cross conference east/west divisions meet. pats had games in l a back to back and just stayed there two weeks. And there were no 4000 miles trips to london for teams back then, some after already traveling to game the week before. and seahawks need to make the return to afc unis permanent.

I would say it had to do with Washington using Husky Stadium but the field is still the same

Sounds like Panthers had a great defense anyway. 🏈

My takeaway from this is that Seattle is too far away, and they should just disband the team. 😏 GO CHIEFS

Wah.

Real men do not watch the soy NFL anymore

All my rowdy friends are back for Monday night

I think the 2000 Seahawks were playing at UW's Husky Stadium while their new stadium was being built on the site of the Kingdome. Not sure if that was Cortez' final season.

The ironic thing is that the Seahawks had to travel to the East Coast twice..... to play an NFC West opponent!!. That's how messed up the divisions were back then. And as far as scheduling, the NFL also had the Seahawks and Raiders play each other in the preseason even though they were division opponents. Definitely a head scratcher

Seattle should have simply packed for two roads games and travelled from Kansas City and then go to Charlotte afterwards and not bothered going back to Seattle mid week. Could have found accommodations where they could have practiced at a local college field. When basketball teams have 5 or 6 game road trips, they aren't flying back home between each game.

You’re talking in circles makes me skip the first 75% of the video to actually get to the part of the video that is what the title of the video is. You have interesting topics, but you make these 16-23 min vids that all should be 4-8 min videos with the relevant info.

So im guessing back then teams did just stay out on that side of the country if they had two road gms that far away? Common sense would've said it makes no sense to travel the KC, then go home, then later travel to CAR that same week

They told the league "nah we can't have Monday night games and accommodate you" so they didn't accommodate them.

NFL doing Detroit a solid this year and giving them a bye after their MNF game

The new (as of the last couple of weeks) Thumbnail Card is really sharp.

What is the song that JG9 uses in the background of his vids love to know cuz it sounds so good