We found out birdman is lying he’s another Wack100. He got caught lying when he said bad bunny was signed to Drake and bad bunny team confirmed birdman was lying. Realize how birdman never said it till years later even after dissing birdman and more
He wasn't blackballed.... He chose to go against the Roc and THEN Cash Money. They were doomed. Major Figgaz never had a big enough following for that much beef.
State Property jumped out of the window for Jay and went against their own city just for Jay to turn around and drop them. They weren’t even playing checkers.
Relevant?!! Who gives af about being relevant when your pockets are way long. Gillie still out here trying to work towards what many members of State Property already have! Remember, ALL of State Property put music out. Gillie put out nothing but mixtapes.
Played who? First off state property was beenies to mess off! Beans never had a platinum album neither did anyone over there! So how j mess them up? Lmfao it’s j fault beans was a drug head in and out of jail! He had movies clothing cartoons and never went platinum? Oh and his own record company! So j put him all the way in position!!!!!! How he fumble the bag? Never went platinum tho it was a bad investment!!! Never recouped never from young guns not one artist other then ye so what?????! What u mean it’s Jay fault! Now dame stole money from sigel 80 thousand to be real! Said he was gonna get him a lawyer and never got the lawyer!
Yeah. If you think about it the only non-Southern artists Cash Money pushed successfully was Nicki and Drake. Both of them were novelties, one was a woman who dressed weird when she was blowing up and another was a Canadian who sings and raps. They became pop breakouts. But Gillie was a gangsta rapper from Philly. There was nothing pop about him and Birdman didn't facilitate and push him like he should have.
Bird man ass you got 100 niggas with u n you with a a nigga n you let him walked out without doing or saying nothing? man that aint adding up Anybody from the hood know you dont let that happen cause you next lol
@@realtalk6195Gillie was writing for Wayne. Southern artists would sign dope East Coast or Midwest MCs, shelve them and keep them as writers. Birdman did the same thing to G-Herbo’s manager, who was also Kanye West’ first artist.
Knowing the history of Birdman cheating his artist, I'm more likely to believe Gillie than Birdman. Whenever one of your top artist (Lli Wayne) who made you millions says you ripped him off, how far fetched is it to believe that he tried to rip Gillie off?
Ya but you also have to understand lil Wayne is spoiled. He’s been a millionaire since 16 under stunna. He gave Wayne a 100 million dollar advance back in ‘02 which is completely unheard of. About 15 years later wayne is sayin birdman owes him money. Now you can say wayne made cash money over 100 million in that time which mayb true but even with that birdman STILL got universal to pay wayne ANOTHER 100 million. So it’s a lil more complicated than that and most of those people besides man is have ended up working with him again.
This isn’t true at all. He was black balled musically as Major figures and Gillie the artist didn’t pan out. However , Gillie the man , and his business acumen carried him in his next chapter. Never give up ppl !
@@user-gy9vo6rm2uThank you. I'm sure Jay has pull, but his reach doesn't span the entertainment spectrum. If music ain't poppin and doors are closed, drive the wall and make your own lane.
This story is a 100 yrs old… everyone who is a hip hop historian that lives on the east coast knows the story ppl from both crews died, ppl did jail time etc during this beef .. no one punked anyone it was real sh*t…and if you know rap & not a fan boy it’s obvious Wayne took from gillie Wayne entire style rap cadences word play changed during the time gillie was around cash money. These new age pill popping fans don’t know anything they’re very annoying just fan boys
Nah he was being bias bc major figgas was coming hard on them freestyles as well, keep bringing up beanie and Gill situation but didn’t say how spade murdered Chis man LA behind that beef
Wow. I thought i didn’t like flak based on NJ. I found this to be a different look. I subscribed. I’ll be checking for him over here. Great Job done right here.
Flakko researched well, but he's also from Philly (chester, but it's right there), so he naturally has always followed this stuff because of a deeper interest in it than most people would have. So I'm glad he made this video, because of all popular media personalities, he's really the one who'd be able to do this properly.
Gillie’s response is the exact example of “we go high they go low” talking bout Stunna responded 25 years later when gillie been talkin about writing for Wayne for the past few years 😂
Bro i ain't gone lie.This been a rumor for years...Now when I listen to Gillie style and cadence, it sound like The Carter 1 Wayne bro..In my opinion I think he wrote for him on that album..Just listen to Gillie bro..This nigga Weezy sound just like him..
@@HorusTheGrey_17 i wont be surprised but we dont know how much he wrote, they could just have a similar flow, there used to be a rapper from my city and there was a rumour Hell rell and A-mafia stole his flow....older i get.....they were just 3 guys who happen to rap similar
That story 20 years old, and if you was in Philly on South Street which most of us was you know beans swung missed and it got broke up, and that was all off of a local rap beef.
Exactly. My old head had the Hideaway Studio where Major Figgas did their recording while Gillie was signed to Cash Money. I was there every step of the way. It was the weekend we promoted the Cash Money NBA All Star party
Back when the kid was still a kid for real! And half your time on south street was spent in Tower Records trying to pick if a tape was gonna be Poppin based on track titles album art and who "featured" or "cameo" yet at that time was just called jumped on the record and bodied that shit! And in the days of cassettes the purple tape makes noise as it should but the Red Tape DARE IZ A DARK SIDE to me should be something that gets talked about that changed shit up like 5 dollar yellow top jumbos off Sedgley or the Zap off Atlantic! If BirdMan came to the Badlands around 1991 through 96 he woulda got jacked and smacked up and had to use the pay phone out on the corner of the Chinese store on Tioga! I been gone outta there since like 06 RIp to Fat Tony aka Candy Man over on A st B st and summerset with the bangin blue buick I don't know Bird so I can't speak on what he did or has done but I know you would never catch his ass out where we were cause it would have been that ass on his last Rising Sun! And they got south Philly bums in the slums that can spit bars and bump gums better than him ALL DAY! BUT EVEN BEANS AS ILL AS HE IS OR EVER WAS STILL PULLING UP A SEAT TO THE ONE THAT SOMEHOW CAN MURK EVERYONE AND JUST WENT OFF LIKE A GHOST FADES EM JAMAL aka MALLY G Damn shame dude still alive yet get the MIA RIP DOUBLE DOUBLE DEF SQUAD SOLOIST! He would put birdbrain flipped to bird turd with the Almighty WORD! Philly History has become a mystery to a generation of fetty wap flops! It was never this bad even when dudes was selling pre loaded shots of H like GOT THAT WORKS OUT HERE! WTF!
He got knocked out but Gillie respected ....Beenie was twice his size then ..Mike Knox knocked out Beenie...they all can fight ..you win some you loose some
Mike Knox knocked Beans out in a Philly nightclub. It happens…. Gillie was caught slipping in Beanie’s backyard (South Philly) and Beans caught wind of it. Beanie pulled and duffed Gillie out. “Remember they used to thump, but now they blast right?” - Dr. Dre.
That Mike Knox story is told different everytime. Gillie was in the club and was there, and said both them niggas was so big and there was no space so they fell down.. Nothing happened with that fight. Mike Knox said these rappers wouldn't fair well fighting beanie sigel
I remember this Come up show episode like it was yesterday if you're from Philly you waited for the Come up show every Friday night lockdown or free on the streets
Gillie isnt no chump, AR Ab said himself gillie is a real one, they had beef at one point too & Ab caught gillie with like 100 goons & gillie didn’t back down, Gillie gained AB’s respect after that incident
This story sound bad on birdman behalf… So Gillie basically was with “YOU” & you let other dudes back guns out on ya man and according to you ALL YALL HAD GUNS TOO and didn’t do nothing???… 😂😂😂 smh Birdman sound crazy fr
They was in GILLIES city… when u coming to a city as a guest and you with a supposed gangster you let them take care of you instead of stepping on toes. Its politics… birdman and his crew aint get touched but they not gettijg in the middle of gillies beef from his own city
thats not exactly what he said. He said Gillie had a gun on him, Not Beans. Birdman was saying how you let this man grip you by your neck and bully you and you didnt even bust. But the word is there was a lot of cops out there when Beans did what he did
Just one problem with Birdman story...how you say you roll with a 100 ninjas all tooled up, but 1 ninja was allowed to roll up and snatch one of your team? 🤔
Jim Jones tried to blackball so many artists but ultimately failed and came out the loser. There's also the Jim Jones Curse: people who collab with him have a high chance of being locked up or kiIIed afterwards.
I went to school with Gilly. He was small, but had crazy hands and everyone respected him and looked up to him when we were young. He could also ball for a little dude. Back then they would let the whole elementary school try out for the middle school team so if you were 8 or whatever you could play with the 8th graders. He was the youngest kid to make the team. He was in 4th grade. Anyway, He ain’t no punk. Birdman is lying. Like seriously, he’s bringing shit up 25 years later.
How is Birdman lying when Gillie confirmed the story? Only difference is he said Beans ain’t actually hit him. He also never said he swung back on Beans or beat him up. Gillie lying man 😂
he has to attack anyone who's DJ Akdmks competition. That's why he disses Joe twice in a hit piece made for Gillie😅 flakko the biggest akdmks dck rider in the world yo he's pathetic AF
So basically gillie a real 1 got blackballed for major figures 💵👀 and since he broke through anyway 20plus years later all the people who originally switched up gotta make issues why without reasonable doubt 🤦🏾♂️😂
The video creator talking like he can confirm Gillie got hands put on him. If anything I’d believe Gillie because his athleticism speaks for itself. Furthermore in interviews Beanie Sigel has said he wasn’t on the scene like that. Fast forward years later and Lil Wayne has/had discrepancy with money as it relates to Birdman. So why then would Gillie be lying about percentages.
Birdman made it clear that wasn’t his artist why would he ride for someone who he ain’t making money off you wanted him to go to prison over gillie for having his people shoot up a mall wtf
@@NaturalMagi123 man stop. Gillie and Major Figgaz was CMR. They had Boo and Gotti too. If you under 35 or so you weren’t around when all this popped off.
@@NaturalMagi123 dafuq you talking bout nigga? Them Niggas was all CMR. How you applying logic to “gangster shit”. If niggas roll up up on niggas signed/affiliated/cool with you and you let a Nigga do that shit you a lame. Birdman has pull to stop that shit. 01-03 Cash Money had a completely different roster and none of them are around today. Birdman a lame for letting that shit happen if it did.
All Stunna did was use the same excuse that 50 used for not signing Joey Jihad from Philly. He said he can't sign him cuz he got knocked out on camera. But I asked myself the same thing Gillie asked. Why wait over 20yrs to respond to someone who's been dissing u all this time? He's been calling u soft, and pu55y for years and if u could've countered it with "how u calling me this but u let Beans put u to sleep with a tool on you"? Anyone would've been used that. I actually heard about it when it allegedly happened. Some said it was a slap. Now Gill said he missed, not sure if it's true or not, but Birdman is known for his shady dealings. Also Anyone who was around during the time and knows the Philly sound, knows that Wayne's style automatically switched up while Gillie was there and never went back to its original southern style. Everyone in Philly was saying this while it was happening, not years later. You automatically heard Gillie in Wayne's voice. I feel like Birdman using whatever he can to finally speak on Gill. Personally I felt like as Powerful as Ppl say Stunna is, for Gillie to speak on him this way all these years, I said Gill has something on Birdman. Whatever it is, I'm not sure, but Stunna just now saying to hell with it at this point.
That shit was over hyped.. ppl really wanted something to talk about in 2002.. they had a little tussle.. I think just cuz everything else that went on ppl hyped it but no one talks about about how dutch fought Chris & Peedi at the mall
8:12 Yeah. this is the type of sucka shit that JayZ been doing back in the late 90's. He offer other rappers to work for him and if they refuse, he make things hard for them.
Wait Birdman said Gillie AINT like that??? Since when Birdman been like that??? I only seen him get tough with The Breakfast Club.. He said said nothing to Rick Ross when he said all that stuff about him on Idols become Rivals
Nah I've heard birdman definitely can get like that. I'm sure he hit Ross up directly. He a og. He not type to broadcast certain shit. That ctg shit was just to try scare him cause he knows ctg not like that.
We found out birdman is lying he’s another Wack100. He got caught lying when he said bad bunny was signed to Drake and bad bunny team confirmed birdman was lying. Realize how birdman never said it till years later even after dissing birdman and more
We did the Cash Money NBA all star weekend party that night. If Birdman says he stopped messing with him, it didn’t look like that at the party. And how come Birdman and his crew didn’t do anything if that really happened? Birdman fraudin
Anytime someone tells a story a continuously pause throughout the story, makes me feel like they are making it up as they go or trying to make a lie sound true using some facts mixed with their bs. Bird man sounds just like that when he’s asked about messing with dudes and young boys
